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Is something going on in Ukraine?

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These look nothing alike. Were there pictures of baking ovens being used somewhere?
Also, I can't find any reports that they were actually using them, only that they had some around.

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These look nothing alike. Were there pictures of baking ovens being used somewhere?
Also, I can't find any reports that they were actually using them, only that they had some around.

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didn't somebody determine it takes too much energy to burn bodies to make portable crematoriums feasible?
Cremating one corpse requires two to three hours and more than 1,800 degrees of heat
 
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1800 degrees is not that hot or hard to do. Propane and map gas touches burn at 4-5000F.

That is definitely not for baking bread in the back of that truck
It’ll get that hot if you have oxygen hooked up too, but not by itself. They are below 4000 alone. It’s about 3700 for map.
 
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It seems that the battle for Donbas kicked of tonight according to Ukrainians. We will see soon enough what gives..

''The Armed Forces of Ukraine declare that the RF Armed Forces have begun the 2nd phase of the operation in Donbas.:
The Russian Army has begun a new phase of hostilities and is moving to the offensive along the entire front line. The head of Zelensky's office, Ermak, wrote a frightening post about this, and Zelensky addressed the people.''

''1. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Zelensky announced that the 2nd phase of the operation in Donbass had begun.
2. From the Russian side, no one has officially announced anything yet.
3. Nevertheless, artillery preparation against the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been on the rise since tonight, and missile strikes are being launched on the territory of Ukraine. Kyiv, Nikolaev, Kharkov, Slavyansk, etc.
4. All this may indicate that the operational pause is ending. Reconnaissance in force took place today (Kremennaya was occupied), rocket and artillery preparation began in the evening. Perhaps tomorrow an offensive operation with decisive goals could begin. However, I would not be surprised if artillery preparation continues tomorrow during the day.''
 
It seems that the battle for Donbas kicked of tonight according to Ukrainians. We will see soon enough what gives..

''The Armed Forces of Ukraine declare that the RF Armed Forces have begun the 2nd phase of the operation in Donbas.:
The Russian Army has begun a new phase of hostilities and is moving to the offensive along the entire front line. The head of Zelensky's office, Ermak, wrote a frightening post about this, and Zelensky addressed the people.''

''1. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Zelensky announced that the 2nd phase of the operation in Donbass had begun.
2. From the Russian side, no one has officially announced anything yet.
3. Nevertheless, artillery preparation against the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been on the rise since tonight, and missile strikes are being launched on the territory of Ukraine. Kyiv, Nikolaev, Kharkov, Slavyansk, etc.
4. All this may indicate that the operational pause is ending. Reconnaissance in force took place today (Kremennaya was occupied), rocket and artillery preparation began in the evening. Perhaps tomorrow an offensive operation with decisive goals could begin. However, I would not be surprised if artillery preparation continues tomorrow during the day.''
i thought the russians issued a warning and told them to surrender by yesterday or else?
 
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didn't somebody determine it takes too much energy to burn bodies to make portable crematoriums feasible?
Cremating one corpse requires two to three hours and more than 1,800 degrees of heat

Obtaining the heat wouldn't be as much of a problem as the fuel consumption would be.

If they had fired them up, how long would it be before satellite videos started showing up of them cooking, but considering the logistical hurdles the Russians have been experiencing, I can't see them wasting the fuel capacity for crematoriums.
 
Obtaining the heat wouldn't be as much of a problem as the fuel consumption would be.

If they had fired them up, how long would it be before satellite videos started showing up of them cooking, but considering the logistical hurdles the Russians have been experiencing, I can't see them wasting the fuel capacity for crematoriums.
by the way, i didn't bold that part, it was google....
enough energy to release 573 pounds of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, environmental analysts have calculated.
 
by the way, i didn't bold that part, it was google....
enough energy to release 573 pounds of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, environmental analysts have calculated.

So if they refrain from burning and just bury them in the ground will they get a carbon tax credit of $50 for every four bodies that they bury?

 
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Obtaining the heat wouldn't be as much of a problem as the fuel consumption would be.

If they had fired them up, how long would it be before satellite videos started showing up of them cooking, but considering the logistical hurdles the Russians have been experiencing, I can't see them wasting the fuel capacity for crematoriums.
Think I read 28 pounds of natural gas to burn a body, so that would add up quick
 
Depends how much fat is present. Morbidly obese individuals can take up to 6x longer to burn, and are risks for grease fires in crematoriums (no I'm not kidding).
Fucks sake.
Once you catch that fat on fire you can turn the oven off.

Stick a fatty on the bottom of the pile and get it going.

Could probably run a generator off that. Screw solar or wind power.


Alert , they are profiling fatties.
 
I have worked on a couple of these that are used for cremation of animals, one for a paint booth and one for baking powder coating. Boiling liquid LP to provide enough vapor to run a 3 million BTU oven takes a lot of liquid.
All of them were using a 1000 gallon tank. So I would call bullshit on a mobile cremation unit until I see Russia running LP tankers around Ukraine.
I could be wrong. But this is what I have done personally.
 
Fucks sake.
Once you catch that fat on fire you can turn the oven off.
Research "grease fire at crematory". For some reason, either older crematories did not have the fire suppression systems or the population has gotten a lot larger or both The smallest body that caused a major fire that did structural damage and made the news was 450, but I think the caution line around 250-300 (depending on % body fat) .


https://arstechnica.com › civis › viewtopic.php?t=261996

 
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Research "grease fire at crematory". For some reason, either older crematories did not have the fire suppression systems or the population has gotten a lot larger or both The smallest body that caused a major fire that did structural damage and made the news was 450, but I think the caution line around 250-300 (depending on % body fat) .


https://arstechnica.com › civis › viewtopic.php?t=261996


LMAO!
 
Biden is hoping that his war with Russia ends with the complete destruction of their country before the midterms so that his party gets a boost.
Well if it get's really bad then El Putino might just decide to tactical nuke a city and shoot down all those Sweedish flights onto the border that are dropping western resupply. Just take a big tactical dukie all over this mother. That would teach someone a lesson.
 
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Compare that effort to using a big dozer and creating a big ditch....

They aren’t going to use all that gas for body disposal, when they already dig ditches.
Remember when all those morons used to say the stacked up plastic vaults in fields were for when they killed us? Sort of like that. I’d tell people they were stupid to think they’d individually bury us and not just bulldoze us into a pit.
 
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This is the greatest game changer I see being implemented into conventional warfare. What was previously an exclusively American advantage has now become everyone's. It won't be too long before drones with thermals are being used on the battlefield.

With the ubiquity of small capable drones in the hands of squad and team sized elements the command coordination is sped up. "Network Centric Warfare" is really coming into its own here, but now we are seeing this capacity in the hands of militaries with less developed assets and at a smaller unit levels.

It used to be up to the long range drone with advanced electronics being fed to the COC then to the unit front line commanders. Now, we have front line commanders operating their own set of drones to coordinate field elements with very low cost of training, equipment, and implementation.

Dangerous.
I presume the next stage will be directional jammers and other ECM means to disable the drones, but what range would you need?
The power consumption for the vehicle borne anti-IED ECM system was a problem and only gave us a few hundred yards IIRC. The manpack version even less. The drone we see in that footage is hovering around 1000 ft.
Cartel Jalisco is currently using drones to drop C4 bomblets on enemy positions in their war against Carteles Unidos to take Michoacan. However while Jalisco is certainly more wealthy with more resources, CU seems to have the local Army units on their side…needless to say it’s bloody as hell.
 
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Cartel Jalisco is currently using drones to drop C4 bomblets on enemy positions in their war against Carteles Unidos to take Michoacan. However while Jalisco is certainly more wealthy with more resources, CU seems to have the local Army units on their side…needless to say it’s bloody as hell.
Which is another reason all this aid going to UKRAINE is ridiculous. We have a massive war right in our own back yard. The cartels infiltrated the Mexico gov years ago and have enough $$ to pay of some people in ours too.
 
I'm not sure what they and by they I mean the stupid but they ( anyone ) thinks happens in a war. Think you know someone ? Put them in a bad situation with weapons and you will quickly find out who they are. Some rise to the top of what you would expect from your sense of a hero. Others race each other to the bottom.
 
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