You are right... my bad. 70 meters of water. About 210 feet. Tough for scuba but dooable. Still need support.
But not as difficult as 200M.
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Sirhr
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Is Something Happening with Nord Stream 1 and 2 under the Baltic Sea?
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But not as difficult as 200M.
Thanks!
Sirhr
Not really.
We heard trump colluded with Russia for 6 years...same agencies.
Freediver Arnaud Jerald breaks world record with 120-metre descent – video
The French freediver has broken the deepest dive world record with bi-fins, descending to a depth of 120 metres
www.theguardian.com
People can get that deep.
It probably is fake news but the covid tyranny was a big ass lie that every country in the world was in on and the majority of the people were none the wiser. Nothing is too obvious and no conspiracy too big as far as I’m concerned.
It is very difficult to believe that you actually think those ridiculous statements you posted are facts. ROEs? When 3 “fighting age” males close together is a legitimate drone target, anything is possible.
This. The US has a whole sub branch devoted to such jobs, with several others that would love to help out. They were on site doing exactly that work a few weeks ago. The ships just recently left. The US did it and doesn’t give a fuck who knows it. Biden’s teleprompter said do in so many words. Allowing a negotiated settlement to the Russia/Ukraine/German conflict/energy crisis will not be permitted. Big war and death tolls in Eastern Europe is the goal, while allowing China/India/Pakistan to expand without conflict.Freediver Arnaud Jerald breaks world record with 120-metre descent – video
The French freediver has broken the deepest dive world record with bi-fins, descending to a depth of 120 metres
People can get that deep.
No not diver. ROV or guided weapon probably. Besides, the Sweeds already found that ROV with explosives on it in 2015.
This is war, accords and agreements be damned.
Wait, I thought Trump planted these explosives because he's an expert deep diver
. Possibly he's also an expert ROV operator too.
I have not seen anything that says exactly who did. Highly likely we will never know. But its not hard to imagine who wanted it shut off and couldn’t control the valves.
Who ever did this, wanted to control that source, and this was their way of doing it. This was one of the last links they could not sever... until now.
Not an impossible dive with nitrox and hypoxic mixes.
Like brianf mentioned earlier in the thread....
You take this specially outfitted sub for just such missions..
en.wikipedia.org
A few good divers....you know, SEALS or just some rank grade UDT trained navy divers, an underwater RV (rov) for pulling the explosives into place.
Bang, job done.
Hoist the Jolly Roger and lets go home and drink till we puke.
Like brianf mentioned earlier in the thread....
You take this specially outfitted sub for just such missions..
USS Jimmy Carter - Wikipedia
Bang, job done.
Hoist the Jolly Roger and lets go home and drink till we puke.
I disagree.
I think they are starting to feel they can not do enough to steal November and nothing like a full scale war will perhaps save them.
Also.,..,,in a few weeks winter will be creating cracks in the European will.
I’m guessing Zelensky offered to offer up the goods on what the swamp has been up to in the Ukraine.
The only way to hold the “Game Stop” line in Europe is to create a situation you can not go back on.
They are going all in.
We will be the collateral damage.
This absolutely is a US operation.
We fucked around, we will find out.
And the propaganda machine will groom us for a reaction and sadly instead of rejecting it we will respond.
Russia has a big gate valve in safe territory.
It doesn’t need a clandestine operation nor would it remove its biggest bargaining chip.
Every time that douche at the press brief says Russia weaponized energy remember who started the sanctions.
Germany fuck Europe?/cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/WSZS6I7IENN6LGU75IDNVEYPPQ.jpg)
European gas buyers show brief interest in shuttered Nord Stream gas
German buyers on Monday briefly reserved capacity to receive Russian gas via the Nord Stream 1 pipeline for the first time since the line was shut down three weeks ago, German data showed, but this was later revised and no gas has been flowing.www.reuters.com
Its Reuters do take it for that but two things stick out.
1. Buyers in Germany where making nominations for gas.
2. Siemons claims the technical issues that Gazprom states put the pipeline out of commission, would not technically stop function.
I will restate. What if Germany and Russia were continuing to trade natural gas, on the sly, somebody found out about it and put a stop to it.
You don’t say..,,,
One thought I had was not even using divers, Rov etc. not an exterior explosion.
They could’ve set charges inside the pipe and used something like the pig to send them down the line.
But that would’ve required somebody with access.
They could’ve set charges inside the pipe and used something like the pig to send them down the line.
But that would’ve required somebody with access.
Imagine if we hadn’t tried to move that useless NATO organization east to the Russian border per our agreements..,,,
Ukraine could have continued to bomb ethnic Russians and life would have went on as normal.
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I gotta bunch of theory, but nothing to substantiate it....yet.
No one has mentioned presidential wartime powers yet and I have a feeling something is buried in there we are not seeing as of this moment.
Bidet has to KNOW he won't win the next election, he's a moron, but he's not that far gone I don't think.
There is a metric shit ton of legalese bullshit involving the president and wartime.
The one I am seeing most of is that he can become a total dictator of all communications....and yes, that would include internet and cell phones now.
I had forgotten this little blurb...
Could his simple minded handlers be hedging on it ?
Obviously no below sea level area is beyond them stooping to, they will take a full on nose dive from the empire state building to stoop lower if needs be, and they prove it over and over.
I just have this itchy feeling they want this war to find some way to keep slow Joe in orifice....I mean office .
Do dominion machines communicate ? i.e. are they online ?
Yes I'm reaching.....nothing is beneath their actions so we're going to have to look at literally anything that they can think of as a benefit to the current regime because you can be damn sure that's where this is all headed, and it's damn sure behind everything they do.
Dunno guys....anyone more hep than me on wartime presidential powers ?
No one has mentioned presidential wartime powers yet and I have a feeling something is buried in there we are not seeing as of this moment.
Bidet has to KNOW he won't win the next election, he's a moron, but he's not that far gone I don't think.
There is a metric shit ton of legalese bullshit involving the president and wartime.
The one I am seeing most of is that he can become a total dictator of all communications....and yes, that would include internet and cell phones now.
I had forgotten this little blurb...
Could his simple minded handlers be hedging on it ?
Obviously no below sea level area is beyond them stooping to, they will take a full on nose dive from the empire state building to stoop lower if needs be, and they prove it over and over.
I just have this itchy feeling they want this war to find some way to keep slow Joe in orifice....I mean office .
Do dominion machines communicate ? i.e. are they online ?
Yes I'm reaching.....nothing is beneath their actions so we're going to have to look at literally anything that they can think of as a benefit to the current regime because you can be damn sure that's where this is all headed, and it's damn sure behind everything they do.
Dunno guys....anyone more hep than me on wartime presidential powers ?
Eventually somebody is going to get a look at the pipeline. It'll be obvious if it was destroyed from within. The blast had to be pretty massive, and i'm guessing really close. A blast from within' wouldn't need to be as large, and we wouldn't have the earthquake readings that they announced tied to the explosions. The steel pipe was 1.6" thick, and had a steel reinforced concrete outer coating that ranged in thickness that I believe ranged from 12 to 18". I don't have the article pulled up anymore, and i'm not going to go look for it right now.
I suppose that if they were able to target a segment that perhaps that could be considered a week point, but I just don't know. Someone out there knows the level of explosive energy required to damage the pipeline sufficiently to cause that kind of leak.
Branden
25mm=1” And The concrete they wrap around the outside is not very thick and done for ballast/weight. Not structural.
Yeah I agree a picture of the damage is what I’d like to see, surprised none have surfaced. Not like its a mile deep, I believe they are between 70-110 meters. I know people capable of driving that deep. Hell, my cousin was an underwater pipeline welder in the Gulf of Mexico, nearly killed him, lost oxygen( regulator exploded) around 300ft down and woke up in a helicopter!
Tri-Mix CCRs are a thing for recreational divers but it's a hellaciously technical form of diving. 100 meters is doable. The SCUBA record is 1089 feet.
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Ah, the UK is so involved with this war, they have SAS there. The UK under Boris was pushing along with us very hard. Not sure about the new gal PM?
FIFY
Sorry man, couldn't help it.
Anywhoo, yeah they could be, but I know the SAS is there as well doin stuff. Wouldn't doubt the Brits got all kinds of shit there. The idea/comment that GB doesn't want us more involved then we currently are is just not true.
If some tactical nukes get launched before this is over remember my surprised face.
You’ll never take Macaulay culkin from my grasp!
Only if they are half dolphin....... or French apparently. CrazyFreediver Arnaud Jerald breaks world record with 120-metre descent – video
The French freediver has broken the deepest dive world record with bi-fins, descending to a depth of 120 metres
People can get that deep.
Spock says not logical.
The pipe was not supplying unless Germany was cheating which is very likely.
Putins only bargaining chip is the gas line and if Germany was cheating he was making good money.
More likely some big player on the Ukraine side had to ensure Europe was not going to abandon sanctions once it really started getting cold or knowing the Germany was cheating decided that had to stop.
And accepting this serious escalation and performing it in my mind is the result of some corrupt little shit hole saying you better save our ass or all the corruption you have been involved in since 2014 will see the light of day.
Than you have psychopaths like Victoria Nuland that don’t care how many die she has her war mongering appetite to feed and some unnatural obsession with this useless part of the world.
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Who profits from this? Follow the money and you more than likely find the culprit.
Well the US will profit at the expense of its own people.
That money will go to communists while we pay more here.
And the perfect timing of a distraction. The news cycle is only a couple days before they chase another squirrel. So this pipeline gets one day of coverage and..... Hurricane! Hurricane!!! Then they will be on to the next headlines never to really cover the pipeline. The American people are sheep being led by the PRAVDA. I wonder how much on the pipeline Twitter Facebook and the others removed.
If only they were smart enough to put some valves on the line when they built it they wouldn't have had to blow it up. Probably designed by the Welsh.
Meh, I think someone in Europe did it personally. Your statement is correct though but that hasn't really changed over history.
italian company petrovalve (biggest valve company in the world) won the design competition as it was the largest valve of that style ever made
i think 48" gate and ball valves at a certain pressure etc.
they made 10 of the them...figure there has to be a few down there
but since we all know this wasnt a rogue guy in a row boat they prob hacked/crippled the valves as well
if they close the valves soon we know it wasnt a pure sabotage
when its found out that the US or other nation did it, there will be recourse for the pollution etc. so im doubting total destruction/un repairable event
Sorry if this is posted elsewhere but is a pretty interesting analysis (have not done any fact-checks- especially on the aircraft flight paths). Comments at the bottom appear to have several Euro perspectives...FWIW
If the USA didn't do it directly. It was done with our backing/approval/financing.
Just a plausible deniability like gain of function in China. They sent the money to a third party who was supplied with the equipment. They came out in January and said they would do it and have been scheming for the how since then.
Iran Contra, Benghazi, Wuhan, 2020 election and the list goes on.
Just a plausible deniability like gain of function in China. They sent the money to a third party who was supplied with the equipment. They came out in January and said they would do it and have been scheming for the how since then.
Iran Contra, Benghazi, Wuhan, 2020 election and the list goes on.
thats how the world works and why we are still in charge for the last 70 years
if we didnt pull or be involved in most of the important strings we would be another useless nation waiting for its daddy to tell it what to do
...like all of europe
Love these quotes from the comments section:
"This is a real blowup to NATO. If Baltic is NATO sea (as they say), this just proved that they are not even able to protect their own infrastructure from terrorist attacks.
Don't forget, NS is not just Russian pipeline, it is almost half a west's pipeline too."
And:
"So in objectively you have 2 possibilites
1. NATO did it (pick your perpetrator)
2. Someone else did it (pick your perpetrator), and NATO failed to detect it
In either case, why should NATO exist?
The overwhelmingly evidence points to #1"
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