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Is the vortex Razor HD Gen 2 still a good deal?
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To me, they are the best scope for the money still. From the reticle (EBR7-C), size, durability, FOV, and pretty good glass. I recently put my 2 Tangents on my hunting guns, and returned to my Gen 2 Razors on my competition rigs FWIW. I have seen a few other scope brands go down recently (some more expensive), but (knock on wood) my Gen 2's keep trucking. And as someone will say, their warranty is the best in the business, although I've never had to use it in almost 7 years of running them off and on. The only thing you're giving up over some of the higher priced options is resolution at 800+ and they are heavy - but everyone likes weight these days.
The razor GEN II is the scope to beat. There are more of them out there than any other “high end” optic.
also do not pay $2500. They have been so populated you can pick them up for $1650 all day no matter what reticle.
I have access to tangets, NF 7-35’s, S&B, and are they better optically? Yes maybe. But you only see it looking at them side by side. Are they $1000-$2000 better? Not for me when I’m still shooting in the 50% zone lol.
Everyone should start with e Gen II IMO. Good enough that you’ll never have to replace it until you think you want too. It won’t hold you back any.
this is for PRS matches anyway. Hunting or plinking might be a different story.
also do not pay $2500. They have been so populated you can pick them up for $1650 all day no matter what reticle.
I have access to tangets, NF 7-35’s, S&B, and are they better optically? Yes maybe. But you only see it looking at them side by side. Are they $1000-$2000 better? Not for me when I’m still shooting in the 50% zone lol.
Everyone should start with e Gen II IMO. Good enough that you’ll never have to replace it until you think you want too. It won’t hold you back any.
this is for PRS matches anyway. Hunting or plinking might be a different story.
No Razors suck. They are very complicated. You should definitely stick to IOR.
How many threads are you going to start about the exact same thing?
How many threads are you going to start about the exact same thing?
You can also just add it to cart
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If you are paying $2500 for a Razor II you are getting ripped off. Even the Horus models with the usual Horus licensing mark up are under $2000.
And yes at the going street prices they are definitely a great value.
And yes at the going street prices they are definitely a great value.
Just for you there is a way better option, IOR-Valdada
When they first came out some time ago I could totally agree with you ,they were Leaps and Bounds ahead of anything the competition had to offer in the price range. But now there's quite a few choices out there. I'm not so sure there is relevant as they used to be.
You're right. I ran an IOR but the Schott glass was too clear. It gave me headaches and was too large an advantage. I run a Gen II now to handicap myself. I figure I should give Bigfoot an even playing field while I hunt for him.
Why did you ask the question if you claim to know the answer? You are wrong by the way but maybe you knew that too. Still plenty relevant.
2020 PRS scope use.
this guy and the lance dark horse are a couple of our finer new members.
Total turds in the pool.
Like the guy with TP hanging out of his pants, its fun to point and laugh. I
I wouldn't make fun of them so much, but they seem to be working to prove the "no such thing as a stupid question" statement untrue. Or is it still true and just stupid people ask questions?.....
Total turds in the pool.
Like the guy with TP hanging out of his pants, its fun to point and laugh. I
I wouldn't make fun of them so much, but they seem to be working to prove the "no such thing as a stupid question" statement untrue. Or is it still true and just stupid people ask questions?.....
Still leaps and bounds better than anything made by IOR.....
And, of course, you're not serious................
Truly it couldn't of been that obvious? Color me surprised.
like mine with a the Horus h59 reticle , but If I did not buy it from a friend to try and save some of his gear from the divorce I would in no way ever pay the money need to buy my own new or used unless under 800.00 . I could get another brand scope to do the same job that's 1/2 the price and more mag with glass every bit as good .
sorry have to post the price they want for the thing now is just nuts . I have never done enough drugs to make me think that was a good price lol
sorry have to post the price they want for the thing now is just nuts . I have never done enough drugs to make me think that was a good price lol
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Good is good. Performance for price still rules. Show me what else in the sub-$1700 range outperforms it or is a “better deal”.
He literally has no other thing to talk about and is looking for attention.
Place a few IOR and a few Vortex G2 on a PRS prize table and see which ones get taken first. Guarantee it’s the Vortex scopes. There’s a reason for that.
like mine with a the Horus h59 reticle , but If I did not buy it from a friend to try and save some of his gear from the divorce I would in no way ever pay the money need to buy my own new or used unless under 800.00 . I could get another brand scope to do the same job that's 1/2 the price and more mag with glass every bit as good .
sorry have to post the price they want for the thing now is just nuts . I have never done enough drugs to make me think that was a good price lol
Do you really not know the difference between MSRP and street price? If not then I feel sorry for you.
Oh and nice job trying to make it look higher by choosing the Horus reticle also.
I'm not exactly sure what all this talk about IOR is I'm asking a serious question. Also I do know the difference between Street and retail price ( retail with h59 reticle is $3,400 for a Gen 2) and at $1,700 through Liberty Optics it's a great deal there is no doubt about that. But my price for a Nightforce atacr 25 power is about $500 more than Liberty Optics price on the Razor
I do realize that Vortex is still King of the Hill with the Razor HD because it's value and not because it's the best scope out there ,but with the introduction of new companies such as a Athlon,Tract and others is it still the best value for the buck? I'm not saying the razor isn't a good scope I really like them ( I own one by the way ). But Two or three years back if I told you there was a scope company called Zero Compromise that would make a scope as good as a Tangent Theta for a lot less money would you have believed that?
I'm just trying to get some opinions and some different points of view on new scopes that may not be on my radar as of yet.
I do realize that Vortex is still King of the Hill with the Razor HD because it's value and not because it's the best scope out there ,but with the introduction of new companies such as a Athlon,Tract and others is it still the best value for the buck? I'm not saying the razor isn't a good scope I really like them ( I own one by the way ). But Two or three years back if I told you there was a scope company called Zero Compromise that would make a scope as good as a Tangent Theta for a lot less money would you have believed that?
I'm just trying to get some opinions and some different points of view on new scopes that may not be on my radar as of yet.
Your price on an ATACR and the price everyone else can get them for might be two different things so that will be up to you what it is worth. The price given for the Razor II is the price everyone can get them for.
And you answered your own question in the second bold statement.
You make a point about my pricing on Nightforce .But you should have continued highlighting my statement ( I do realize that Vortex is still King of the Hill with the Razor HD because it's value and not because it's the best scope)
This discussion is about value. We have to agree that while the Razor is a nice scope - its not the bets scope out there. Its been a great scope because there was nothing in its price range that could touch it, but now with other scope manufactures stepping up there game is it still the best scope VALUE there ?
I still say it is but I'm looking for other opinions.
That part is your opinion and opinions aren't facts so you are just looking for what people think. You can find people who think the earth is flat. Does it make it true? I showed you a fact of what PRS shooters are using this year and if there were better scopes out then wouldn't they be used?
Keep fishing though. I am sure someone will give you an opinion you like.
if you want to spend more money on a scope then do it. but as far as value. nothing touches the razor gen 2
you dont think the 350 shooters in the PRS who use a razor gen 2 dont have the money to get a nightforce 7-35 or k525 etc? thats one less 2 day match a year.
they do it because it offers some nice things (locking turrets, weight, reticle) that others dont offer and do it at HALF the price
7-35 atacr versus razor gen 2 really demonstrates dimminishing returns
you dont think the 350 shooters in the PRS who use a razor gen 2 dont have the money to get a nightforce 7-35 or k525 etc? thats one less 2 day match a year.
they do it because it offers some nice things (locking turrets, weight, reticle) that others dont offer and do it at HALF the price
7-35 atacr versus razor gen 2 really demonstrates dimminishing returns
So what you're telling me is if you owned let's say an Theta tangent or maybe a zero compromise you'll be more than willing to trade it for a razor?
It seems like there are a bunch of angry people on this site I'm not trying to be confrontational.
if i had a free ZCO/TT i would very likely trade it for TWO razor gen 2s because that's the price point comparison
Dude, you burned your bridge playing games in that other thread, hence the responses.
you thought you were being funny, but instead, you were being an Asshole and nobody wants to deal with you, you took it too far, should have made your joke and moved on, but you kept going,
which is why I threw you on discouraged and thought you left the site in a huff, remember canceled support, got pissy for being called out on it, and was supposed to have left like a big boi
You won't be taken seriously again in this context by evidence of the responses, so dont' act surprised, people are not angry on here, they just dont' like the games you played and don't like you, there is a difference
you thought you were being funny, but instead, you were being an Asshole and nobody wants to deal with you, you took it too far, should have made your joke and moved on, but you kept going,
which is why I threw you on discouraged and thought you left the site in a huff, remember canceled support, got pissy for being called out on it, and was supposed to have left like a big boi
You won't be taken seriously again in this context by evidence of the responses, so dont' act surprised, people are not angry on here, they just dont' like the games you played and don't like you, there is a difference
Not angry but when you ask the same thing it gets old.
And now you are just asking stupid questions about scopes that are twice the price. Your original posts was about similar optics. Stop changing the narrative. And so you know I used to run S&B 5-25s and actually like the Razor II much better.
You guys started this conversation with a confrontation on your mind. I wish you would just not even reply if you have nothing constructive to say.
I really don't understand your answers. I started this Thread asking a legitimate question. Your cronies are the ones that act unprofessional and you seem to be the worst of the bunch. Again nothing I have said is offencive I just don't understand you guys your so close minded It's almost a joke.
And this is about the time you slow me down to where I can't even reply to your comment isn't it?
What constructive criticism did you make other than pointing out faults in my question and thoughts?
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re read what i said and you MIGHT understand
if you don't kitty kitty first
You don't understand this is a continuation of the G2 post you camped out in,
The IOR responses, you don't understand that you burned your own bridge on here, nobody will take you serious,
It's my "cronies" who are doing it, youre innocent in all this... wow you are delusional
You made your bed, now you have to sleep in it, honestly, I thought you left, I did not sic anyone on you
The IOR responses, you don't understand that you burned your own bridge on here, nobody will take you serious,
It's my "cronies" who are doing it, youre innocent in all this... wow you are delusional
You made your bed, now you have to sleep in it, honestly, I thought you left, I did not sic anyone on you
This is your answer,
They are reacting to your past actions, this is not me, my cronies, this is what you created for yourself in those other threads. Look at the likes, all well before I popped in. As I said, I thought you took your ball and went home, I just saw this post that you came back.
You guys don't get it, has nothing to do with being "offensive" look at your responses they are telling what their problem with you is... So admit it, you thought you'd be the comedian, start that IOR G2 post then dragged it out as long as possible until everyone was sick of seeing your name. I stepped in and made it clear, but you want to blame me, all I did was point out your problem, and when you refused to fix it, instead you decided to TROLL ME for it, I put you blast.
Now you come back, keep asking the same question in a different way, and wonder why you are getting worthless responses and being made fun of ... any forum experience is what you make of it. If things turn ugly on you....
Find a mirror, look at it, the face you see staring back with that blank expression is the issue.
They are reacting to your past actions, this is not me, my cronies, this is what you created for yourself in those other threads. Look at the likes, all well before I popped in. As I said, I thought you took your ball and went home, I just saw this post that you came back.
You guys don't get it, has nothing to do with being "offensive" look at your responses they are telling what their problem with you is... So admit it, you thought you'd be the comedian, start that IOR G2 post then dragged it out as long as possible until everyone was sick of seeing your name. I stepped in and made it clear, but you want to blame me, all I did was point out your problem, and when you refused to fix it, instead you decided to TROLL ME for it, I put you blast.
Now you come back, keep asking the same question in a different way, and wonder why you are getting worthless responses and being made fun of ... any forum experience is what you make of it. If things turn ugly on you....
Find a mirror, look at it, the face you see staring back with that blank expression is the issue.
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To try and get good info to people that actually might look at the thread and get some sort of info.
Why do you ask the same thing until you get the response you want? You question has been answered but you don’t care.
Well, Val is the only guy handing out free hand jobs for buying one of his girthy tubes.... Sounds like a "best value" proposition to me.
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