It took 14 years.....REALLY!?!?!.....F-the Big White Hat and your "church".

[HeavyAssault]

Vatican law criminalizes sexual abuse of adults by priests, laity

Pope Francis has changed church law to explicitly criminalize the sexual abuse of adults by priests who abuse their authority and to say that laypeople who hold church office can be sanctioned for similar sex crimes.

www.foxnews.com

Feel how you want about it, I long ago gave up on the "institution" of the church. My point of view IS NOT about the religion.

 

[PatMiles]

It's one thing to pass a law, it's quite another to actively enforce it. I'll not hold my breath.

 

[NoDopes]

What about sexual abuse of the children??? Isn't that the real problem with the Catholic preists?

 

[Maggot]

Organized religion? Theyre all deluded and dangerous and best avoided.

You dont need religion, or a priest, nor a pastor, to know 'God' is thats what you want to call it.

Seek Wisdom.

Make her your constant companion. She will lead you to the Almighty.

 

[RGStory]

What about sexual abuse of the children??? Isn't that the real problem with the Catholic preists?

This is an expansion of the existing laws protecting minors to also include adults and also further expands the scope of who can be held accountable for abuse or knowledge of abuse.

"The law recognizes that adults, not only children, can be victimized by priests who abuse their authority. The revisions also say that laypeople holding church positions, such as school principals or parish economists, can be punished for abusing minors as well as adults."


I.E. If you are church administrator that knows abuse is occurring, you have a moral and legal obligation to come forward. Whereas, previously you only had the moral obligation and apparently that was not sufficient you degraded worthless sack of shit.

 

[NoDopes]

.. should have read the article. So, punishment up to, and including, transfer to a new parish then. got it.

 

[Anointed1]

The true "church" of Christ is not defined by any denomination...it is not a place or building either with members inside calling themselves "Christian"...it is the body of people wherever they might be or whatever they call themselves....where each person has the Holy Spirit within them. All of them...made members by possessing the gift of the Holy Spirit at whatever measure...make up the "true church".

A lot of people are not aware of what the biblical definition of "Christian" even is or what defines the church...the church is the members.

The history of some denominations of organized "religion" is appalling...their actions and/or inactions....even to this day.

There are imposters everywhere =/

 

[EddieNFL]

The true "church" of Christ is not defined by any denomination...it is not a place or building either with members inside calling themselves "Christian"...it is the body of people wherever they might be or whatever they call themselves....where each person has the Holy Spirit within them. All of them...made members by possessing the gift of the Holy Spirit at whatever measure...make up the "true church".

A lot of people are not aware of what the biblical definition of "Christian" even is or what defines the church...the church is the members.

The history of some denominations of organized "religion" is appalling...their actions and/or inactions....even to this day.

There are imposters everywhere =/

Most confuse religion for God.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Vatican law criminalizes sexual abuse of adults by priests, laity

Pope Francis has changed church law to explicitly criminalize the sexual abuse of adults by priests who abuse their authority and to say that laypeople who hold church office can be sanctioned for similar sex crimes.

www.foxnews.com

Feel how you want about it, I long ago gave up on the "institution" of the church. My point of view IS NOT about the religion.

so you must hate education too given as a percent, there are more peds there

I do agree that this is almost laughable, as if a vatican law was even needed here!

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

So does this mean it has been legal all this time and will be legal until December 8th?

No rush.

 

[Mwalex]

so you must hate education too given as a percent, there are more peds there

I do agree that this is almost laughable, as if a vatican law was even needed here!

Are you saying there are more pedophiles in the education system than the Catholic Church? Do you have numbers to support that statement?

 

[BullGear]

You want to see where society get's it orders from. Just look at how the Catholic church has covered up crime after crime after crime and still the pews are full every week. Government must be taking lessons from the Catholic church!

 

[HeavyAssault]

Are you saying there are more pedophiles in the education system than the Catholic Church? Do you have numbers to support that statement?

I think we can agree one is too many in either area.
I've had to argue with people about "pedo rings".

I ask these questions:

1) Do they exist? (Most answer... Yes)
2) Could any kind/education level/position in society people/person can be in these rings? (Most answer... Yes)
3) What you are willing to do to stop these rings? (Most don't have a real honest answer)

 

[myronman3]

what i want to know is, WHY THE FUCK these “priests” are not arrested and tried? how the fuck can the church shelter them and get away with it? start arresting anyone involved and charge them with obstruction of justice.

start smacking them between the eyes with a ball peen hammer and watch how fast that shit stops. even a dumb fucker like me can figure that one out.

 

[Jim Out]

 

[Rthur]

Seems comical after this big white hat wearer has been quoted
spewing political ideologies in step with socialism/communism.
They have abused a few folks I hear...

R

 

[Mwalex]

I hope I don't offend any of the Catholic members here on the hide but I do not think that the Catholic church has ever had the best interest of its parishioners as its primary concern. By Catholic church I mean the organization in Vatican City, not your local church. They have been about money, power and control since before the Renaissance and the current Pope is a blatant communist.

 

[HeavyAssault]

I'm not offended, in fact I'm more likely to say it's an honest statement.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Are you saying there are more pedophiles in the education system than the Catholic Church? Do you have numbers to support that statement?

I hope you can read better than you're indicating here. I'll spell it out for you; sexual abuse in education is DOUBLE that of the church (which is in the mean for large organizations for this type of stuff so no greater or less) as a percent of the population and the US Dept of Education thinks it's almost double outright! The Church is just and easy target for liberals.

it's out there easy enough to find. I keep myself pretty well educated, I suggest you do the same hence you look foolish (cough cough). This has been in the news for the last 2 decades with private studies out of Hofstra, UCLA and of course, the US Dept of Education statistics. Education is far far worse.

 

[RUTGERS95]

I hope I don't offend any of the Catholic members here on the hide but I do not think that the Catholic church has ever had the best interest of its parishioners as its primary concern. By Catholic church I mean the organization in Vatican City, not your local church. They have been about money, power and control since before the Renaissance and the current Pope is a blatant communist.

absolutely spot on and don't think anyone would argue otherwise if literate on the history of the church. The church however provides more aid globally (through charities) than the UN aid organization division and also operates more hospitals in the US than anyone else, in fact, it's the largest non profit healthcare in the states so there is good from it amongst the many other things of positive note.

 

[Choid]

I'm old enough to remember when people used to ask "is the Pope Catholic?" in order to give an obvious affirmative answer.

 

[RUTGERS95]

The true "church" of Christ is not defined by any denomination...it is not a place or building either with members inside calling themselves "Christian"...it is the body of people wherever they might be or whatever they call themselves....where each person has the Holy Spirit within them. All of them...made members by possessing the gift of the Holy Spirit at whatever measure...make up the "true church".

A lot of people are not aware of what the biblical definition of "Christian" even is or what defines the church...the church is the members.

The history of some denominations of organized "religion" is appalling...their actions and/or inactions....even to this day.

There are imposters everywhere =/

the greatest travesty is the untold riches of the Church and yet the poor suffer. Not including real estate, of which the Church is the largest private enterprise holder globally, but the works of art and investments could be sold to help the needy

almost akin to the billions in endowments and yet students get raped in fees and tuition!

 

[Mwalex]

I hope you can read better than you're indicating here

it's out there easy enough to find. I keep myself pretty well educated, I suggest you do the same hence you look foolish (cough cough)

I hope you can read better than you're indicating here

it's out there easy enough to find. I keep myself pretty well educated, I suggest you do the same hence you look foolish (cough cough)

Don’t be an asshole. You posted that there is a higher percentage of pedophiles in education which I assume is n comparison to the Catholic Church. I am also assuming there are more teachers in the US than Catholic priests. So, what did I miss.

I did look into the numbers because people on this site love to make absurd statements with no idea of the subject matter. Numbers for teachers committing sexual assault (k-12) was as high as 5% while the highest I saw for Catholic priests was 7%.

by the way, people that say they keep themselves well educated are usually the exact opposite. Don’t be a dick if you want to have an intelligent discussion.

 

[Choid]

the greatest travesty is the untold riches of the Church and yet the poor suffer. Not including real estate, of which the Church is the largest private enterprise holder globally, but the works of art and investments could be sold to help the needy

almost akin to the billions in endowments and yet students get raped in fees and tuition!

It makes perfect sense. Taken at face value, the goal of the church is to save souls. In every part of the world, the poorer an area is, the more Catholic it is, and the richer it gets, the less Catholic it becomes, so it figures that to save souls, you have to keep them poor.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Don’t be an asshole. You posted that there is a higher percentage of pedophiles in education which I assume is n comparison to the Catholic Church. I am also assuming there are more teachers in the US than Catholic priests. So, what did I miss.

I did look into the numbers because people on this site love to make absurd statements with no idea of the subject matter. Numbers for teachers committing sexual assault (k-12) was as high as 5% while the highest I saw for Catholic priests was 7%.

by the way, people that say they keep themselves well educated are usually the exact opposite. Don’t be a dick if you want to have an intelligent discussion.

no you're the asshole spewing your bigotry and veiled bias here. I suggest you re-google because it came right up in 5 seconds and yup, I'm right again. Educate yourself, few things worse than an ignorant fool running with a biased mouth lest we think you a liberal

Has Media Ignored Sex Abuse In School?

<b>NRO</b>: Why Haven't Teachers Received Same Scrutiny As Catholic Priests?

www.cbsnews.com

Separating Facts About Clergy Abuse From Fiction

Quality research data and industry best practices will solve clerical abuse.

www.psychologytoday.com

Predators in the Classroom

Individual cases of sexual abuse by teachers receive a great deal of attention, but how widespread is the problem? Why we still know, and are doing, so little.

www.wsj.com

 

[RUTGERS95]

Don’t be an asshole. You posted that there is a higher percentage of pedophiles in education which I assume is n comparison to the Catholic Church. I am also assuming there are more teachers in the US than Catholic priests. So, what did I miss.

I did look into the numbers because people on this site love to make absurd statements with no idea of the subject matter. Numbers for teachers committing sexual assault (k-12) was as high as 5% while the highest I saw for Catholic priests was 7%.

by the way, people that say they keep themselves well educated are usually the exact opposite. Don’t be a dick if you want to have an intelligent discussion.

you can't even fact check right. You sure you didn't punch the blue card in November?

 

[Mwalex]

no you're the asshole spewing your bigotry and veiled bias here. I suggest you re-google because it came right up in 5 seconds and yup, I'm right again. Educate yourself, few things worse than an ignorant fool running with a biased mouth lest we think you a liberal

Has Media Ignored Sex Abuse In School?

<b>NRO</b>: Why Haven't Teachers Received Same Scrutiny As Catholic Priests?

www.cbsnews.com

Separating Facts About Clergy Abuse From Fiction

Quality research data and industry best practices will solve clerical abuse.

www.psychologytoday.com

Predators in the Classroom

Individual cases of sexual abuse by teachers receive a great deal of attention, but how widespread is the problem? Why we still know, and are doing, so little.

www.wsj.com

What bias? I asked for numbers and you supplied them. It is not my place to substantiate your argument. Try acting your age. I saw those same articles. Again, don’t be a cock socket when someone asks you a question and the discussions will go a lot better.

 

[Mwalex]

Fact check what ball chugger? I browsed multiple reports and pulled numbers from them. It’s easy for pieces of shit like you to make broad statement and then get your pussy in a knot when asked a question. I was simply trying to better understand you post. Try to not be a petulant sperm sponge when you are not face to face with someone.

 

[RUTGERS95]

What bias? I asked for numbers and you supplied them. It is not my place to substantiate your argument. Try acting your age. I saw those same articles. Again, don’t be a cock socket when someone asks you a question and the discussions will go a lot better.

wrong

you talk about things you don't know because your bias is from a position of ignorance. Then you tried to follow it up by twisting the data in almost exact opposite order. I don't have patience for stupidity or ignorance. You would be better served saying, 'I guess I need to educate myself a little more before running with misguided and illinformed views' and then we can have a real conversation on 'The Church'.

If this wasn't the hide, I'd think we were on Twitter and you had a Biden sticker on your car.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Fact check what ball chugger? I browsed multiple reports and pulled numbers from them. It’s easy for pieces of shit like you to make broad statement and then get your pussy in a knot when asked a question. I was simply trying to better understand you post. Try to not be a petulant sperm sponge when you are not face to face with someone.

lol. you're fking retarded.

I just gave you cbs, wsj, and physcology today with references to studies from Hofstra and the US Dept of Education. Dude, you're a fking moron.

 

[Mwalex]

wrong

you talk about things you don't know because your bias is from a position of ignorance. Then you tried to follow it up by twisting the data in almost exact opposite order. I don't have patience for stupidity or ignorance. You would be better served saying, 'I guess I need to educate myself a little more before running with misguided and illinformed views' and then we can have a real conversation on 'The Church'.

If this wasn't the hide, I'd think we were on Twitter and you had a Biden sticker on your car.

You don’t have patience because you sound like an arrogant sperm catching narcissist.

 

[RGStory]

For fuck's sake.
RUTGER95 and Mwalex are starting to sound like a couple of Wittenberg Catholics back in 1517.

Next thing we know we are going to have another schism within the hide.

I honestly can't tell if you guys are just joking or being serious.

 

[Choid]

absolutely spot on and don't think anyone would argue otherwise if literate on the history of the church. The church however provides more aid globally (through charities) than the UN aid organization division and also operates more hospitals in the US than anyone else, in fact, it's the largest non profit healthcare in the states so there is good from it amongst the many other things of positive note.

There is little doubt that the Church does a lot of good, and has many wonderful people in it. It has also produced some of history's greatest thinkers. No large organization avoids politics, and no organization can endure with a decreasing membership, so the Church makes policy decisions that are in line with its own needs. Always has. Though it is fiction within fiction, no single document stands as a more perfect critique of the institutional church than The Grand Inquisitor chapter of The Brothers Karamazov.

All that said, there is nothing Catholic about molesting children. I mean that in that it is both out of step with the general beliefs, and that Catholics are no more likely to be molestors than any other group. People like to make connections that are facile, but not ones that are real. There are many reasons somebody who is a molestor may see value in becoming a priest. It may be access, shame, supposition of innocence, whatever, but it is laughable to think it is connected with their Catholicism.

 

[RGStory]

There is little doubt that the Church does a lot of good, and has many wonderful people in it. It has also produced some of history's greatest thinkers. No large organization avoids politics, and no organization can endure with a decreasing membership, so the Church makes policy decisions that are in line with its own needs. Always has. Though it is fiction within fiction, no single document stands as a more perfect critique of the institutional church than The Grand Inquisitor chapter of The Brothers Karamazov.

All that said, there is nothing Catholic about molesting children. I mean that in that it is both out of step with the general beliefs, and that Catholics are no more likely to be molestors than any other group. People like to make connections that are facile, but not ones that are real. There are many reasons somebody who is a molestor may see value in becoming a priest. It may be access, shame, supposition of innocence, whatever, but it is laughable to think it is connected with their Catholicism.

Lucid.

I would add that your last two sentences highlights the very problem the church is attempting to reconcile. It is the structure of the institution that attracts the very villains the law in question is attempting to eradicate.

Rightfully so, the church has suffered the public humiliation and condemnation for failing to address those issues quickly enough.

I agree that no religious institution is immune to these issues, and I doubt they are free of this evil. It does make me question those other organized religions when I hear relative silence on the subject.

 

[Anointed1]

Taken at face value, the goal of the church is to save souls.

There is little doubt that the Church does a lot of good, and has many wonderful people in it. It has also produced some of history's greatest thinkers.

I wish you would stop refering to the Catholic organization as the "church"...they are not...as I said earlier above. The "Church" is all the people across the globe connected to Christ and God by the indwelling Holy Spirit that form the body of Christ. THAT is the church.

Not an organization that is willing to harbor or provide shelter to law breakers and certainly not to those who would sin against God by defiling young children...or teach false doctrines by the way.

The goal of a true Christian ?...their goal is to bare fruit and be conformed...conformed into the likeness of Christ. Conformed by following the leading of the Holy Spirit within them and being transformed...and thereby changing their actions to actions that mimick and resemble Jesus himself....how he acted and expressed himself thru those actions....that is what is meant to be "Christian"...to be "Christ like".

Their changed actions and expression toward others is the fruit they bare...in that the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control....the seen and felt attributes of Jesus. Of course they also carry with them a truth about Christ...a truth made known to them by God that Christ is alive and real....which is also what forms the foundation of the great Christian hope...the hope of resurrection and life after death. As he is alive so shall we be...and we will be with him.

That truth is what true Christians desire to share with others...others who have had the door of their heart opened and are receptive...so that God thru the holy spirit at work within the saved believer...prompts and leads the believer to speak words of truth that draws the listener to his son for salvation. That leads to the ultimate fruit which is a saved soul....the soul being the person that resides in the physical body.

Here's the truth...God and Christ are the ones who bare any and all fruit...all we do as Christians other than following the leading of the Holy Spirit and allow the transformation to happen within us...is be willing vessels as the father and the son work thru us by the workings of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Choid]

I wish you would stop refering to the Catholic organization as the "church"...they are not...as I said earlier above. The "Church" is all the people across the globe connected to Christ and God by the indwelling Holy Spirit that form the body of Christ. THAT is the church.

Not an organization that is willing to harbor or provide shelter to law breakers and certainly not to those who would sin against God by defiling young children...or teach false doctrines by the way.

Their goal or a true Christian ?...their goal is to bare fruit and be conformed...conformed into the likeness of Christ. Conformed by following the leading of the Holy Spirit within them and being transformed...and thereby changing their actions to actions that mimick and resemble Jesus himself....how he acted and expressed himself thru those actions....that is what is meant to be "Christian"...to be "Christ like".

Their changed actions and expression toward others is the fruit they bare...in that the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control....the seen and felt attributes of Jesus. Of course they also carry with them a truth about Christ...a truth made known to them by God that Christ is alive and real....which is also what forms the foundation of the great Christian hope...the hope of resurrection and life after death. As he is alive so shall we be...and we will be with him.

That truth is what true Christians desire to share with others...others who have had the door of their heart opened and are receptive...so that God thru the holy spirit at work within the saved believer...prompts and leads the believer to speak words of truth that draws the listener to his son for salvation. That leads to the ultimate fruit which is a saved soul....the soul being the person that resides in the physical body.

Here's the truth...God and Christ are the ones who bare any and all fruit...all we do as Christians other than following the leading of the Holy Spirit and allow the transformation to happen within us...is be willing vessels as the father and the son work thru us by the workings of the Holy Spirit.

I'm not a Christian, so when I said "church" I hope you understand that I was talking about the institutional Catholic church. I'll try to be more sensitive to that in the future, but could you provide me a shorthand way of describing this entity? Perhaps "the Vatican?" I'm not joking, I'd like to be as respectful as possible, but to those of us who know Christianity only from the outside, sometimes it is difficult to pick the correct words.

 

[RGStory]

I'm not a Christian, so when I said "church" I hope you understand that I was talking about the institutional Catholic church. I'll try to be more sensitive to that in the future, but could you provide me a shorthand way of describing this entity? Perhaps "the Vatican?" I'm not joking, I'd like to be as respectful as possible, but to those of us who know Christianity only from the outside, sometimes it is difficult to pick the correct words.

The formal long hand I am familiar with is "the holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church" or shortened to just the "Roman Catholic Church" to differentiate it from the other denominations. From the Nicene Creed, "We believe in one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church."

Many faiths use variations of the Nicene Creed, so the "Roman" thing is an additional descriptor.

Unfortunately, you are not offending the Catholics with referring to the organization as simply "the church", I believe you are offending some of people that don't see the Roman Pope as the head of their religion. Ultra-Conservatives in the the organization refer to "it" as, "The One True Church".

Many Christian denominations hold the contrary argument that the Annotied1 is making. That all of the "church" is one and "the organization" cannot lay claim to the followers of Christ.

It does make it difficult to discuss "it" without being able to use their own formal title to reference "it".

I likewise advise you to avoid asking random questions regarding the transformation and meaning of the Eucharist. Actual wars have been fought over these subtle differences.

 

[Mike_Honcho]

 

[acudaowner]

 

[Anointed1]

I'm not a Christian, so when I said "church" I hope you understand that I was talking about the institutional Catholic church. I'll try to be more sensitive to that in the future, but could you provide me a shorthand way of describing this entity? Perhaps "the Vatican?" I'm not joking, I'd like to be as respectful as possible, but to those of us who know Christianity only from the outside, sometimes it is difficult to pick the correct words.

Certainly...and due to the lack of my tone...don't take my request as demanding or in a reprimanded type way...not my intent. I myself refer to them as the Catholic Organization. If deeper more specific references are needed I go from there.

The term "Church" is used in many ways as is the word "Christian"...a lot of times completely out of context from their true meaning...but that being unknown by the user. Each has a very specific meaning within the "word" or scripture...and my desire is to speak the truth and give understanding...that is all .

 

[Namekagon]

I think its important to distinguish between the institution and a small number of people in it. Bad priests, and equally bad bishops that cover up crimes, do not define the entire Catholic Church as bad. The Roman Catholic Church has done more good for people than any other institution on earth, in history.

Military members commit crimes. If a group of troops commits war crimes in battle, they should be punished. If the top brass covers it up, they also should be punished. But that doesn't even come close to outweighing all the sacrafices made by our soldiers for our freedom. Nor does it diminish the respect we should have for the institution. It just means some assholes need to be rooted out and punished.

 

[Anointed1]

Many Christian denominations hold the contrary argument that the Annotied1 is making. That all of the "church" is one and "the organization" cannot lay claim to the followers of Christ.

It's not really an argument per say...unless someone wants to argue with the truth and what the word clearly says. That is why many denominations teach this truth. I belong to no denomination...but have been gifted with understanding as part of the things necessary for me to bare the fruit I'm suppose to bare. The Holy Spirit imparts gifts according to God's pleasure and purpose so that each one can do their part.

The head of the true church of Christ is Christ himself. I don't believe the pope is the vicar of Christ...I don't believe in the supposed unbroken line of popes being traced back to Peter....I don't believe in papal infallibility....purgatory...alms...and a few other things =). I don't believe in these things because the word doesn't teach or support them...these are doctrines of the Catholic organization. I believe what an accurate translation of the written word says...and also when it says "don't go beyond what is written". Many denominations and organizations would do well obeying that verse.

But here's the thing to...is not the main point and truth Christ and him crucified ? Forgivness of sins thru faith and repentance...salvation and reconciliation to the creator thru him? Can we not find common ground in those truths and follow the one command that fulfills them all ?...to walk in love as far as it depends on you ?

Sincerely...may his peace be with you all...none of my posts are meant to offend anyone in any way !

 

[HeavyAssault]

One thing.....If you are getting offended over this post OR replies to this post of others get the fuck out. Not to mention stop saying you hope you aren't offending anyone. Have a back bone, stick to your opinion, post facts if they are out there.

Take away the connection to the institution of religion we can make this ANY group of people. Not to mention it's NOT any specific group....it can be anyone.

1) It's a horrible subject.
2) It's EVEN worse that the element of people committing these acts are religious members of society.
3) WORSE yet the fact the higher levels of the organization responsible for those beneath them take 14 F-N years to get things changed.
4) WE as a society......CONTINUE to accept/allow this type of activity. Not to mention we allow this sort of delayed corrective action.



Rant off.

 

[EddieNFL]

"The catholic church has a pedophilia problem, but..."

Lots of rationalization in this thread.

 

[myronman3]

child molesters should be put to death. anyone sheltering them, ought to pay a HEAVY price....i’m talking total finacial ruin and hard prison time.

i dont care if they’re cat-lick, luthern, atheist, Buddhist, or whatever the fuck. and any group that harbors them is an evil group.

 

[308pirate]

I hope I don't offend any of the Catholic members here on the hide but I do not think that the Catholic church has ever had the best interest of its parishioners as its primary concern. By Catholic church I mean the organization in Vatican City, not your local church. They have been about money, power and control since before the Renaissance and the current Pope is a blatant communist.

This Catholic agrees 100%

 

[Jim Out]

Pope Francis unveils sweeping reform of Catholic Church’s penal sanctions - Catholic Telegraph

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www.thecatholictelegraph.com

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[918v]

Vatican law criminalizes sexual abuse of adults by priests, laity

Pope Francis has changed church law to explicitly criminalize the sexual abuse of adults by priests who abuse their authority and to say that laypeople who hold church office can be sanctioned for similar sex crimes.

www.foxnews.com

Feel how you want about it, I long ago gave up on the "institution" of the church. My point of view IS NOT about the religion.

What do you care what the Vatican does?

 

[theLBC]

of course the liberal media is going to cover for the liberal teachers.
they are paying 800+ union teachers to sit around because they cannot be near the children and cannot be fired.
just in nyc.

 

[EddieNFL]

What do you care what the Vatican does?

I have an interest in what lots of political organizations are doing.