Just a reminder about discussing technical data

[W54/XM-388]

The 'big deal' with encryption (and some could argue the beginning of the weaponization of ITAR against Americans...) was with the PGP Algorithm in the mind-1990's. They sent the PGP creator to jail... or tried to. PGP was "Pretty Good Privacy" and was a publically-available encryption technology that would let people encode e-mails and simple Internet Communications (this was right as the Web was coming online... ) Was a massive legal morass and helpe cement organizations like the Electronic Frontier Foundation and others...

The idea that encryption was a weapon was hotly-debated. But at the time, PGP was considered unbreakable. Now you could break it with the computing power on your Apple Watch. But at the time...

I was using PGP at that time (as in compiling it from source code on 386 CPU computers), so I was pretty familiar with the saga, this was back in the days before the internets were really a thing and what you were all talking over was BBS systems running off phone lines.

In the end all the stupid blowhard government jerks did was lose their legal challenges and threats and help spur an international community of people to start open source encryption as the defacto standard for encryption.

Pretty much every encryption scheme or hardware that has come out of the USA was backdoored by the NSA in one way or another before it ever got off the ground. (Elliptical Curve encryption anyone?)

And then when that wasn't enough the NSA bought up foreign companies making "high end encryption" devices and backdoored them too.

It would be an interesting bet that the NSA has a way in to even the latest and greatest classified encryption stuff when it actually gets out in the field.

 

[perttime]

Half of France is now Syrian, Iraqi, Mahgreb's, Tunisians... you name it. All of them quite happy to try and scam scopes to use against the Infidel West... Paris has "Sharia No-Go" zones. Yeah... France. Good place to send stuff.

Too bad, they are one of EU's most gun-friendly countries! I guess they learned something over 200 years or so...

Sirhr

Sure.
But what makes you think that "high end scopes" are not available in France, Germany, Sweden, (insert other EU country), with the proper paperwork and fees paid to US government?

 

[Mike Casselton]

I fucked a pedophile Alien in a Pizza shop once...

Well I have no clue if it was a pedophile, but it was a helluva good night, great conversationalist too

Was she about 5'-7"?
Wears thigh high boots with 5" heels over her torn, low rise jeans, and blonde?

Rides a motorcycle.

I think she moved in two doors down from me a couple of days ago.

I'll try to get a pic of her for you.

 

[50caldude]

So im back and im calling you out loud ,Marinepmi!!! I hope lowlight is going to read this as well.

Marinepmi you are a HUGE LIAR and that is what I am proving to lowlight now!!!

I may leave the forum but in the way I want!
I reread all your messages and you intentionally use lies to ban people you don't like. That's a Fact!!!!

So lowlight here we go.
I'm pretty curious and my last two threads were about MK244 and slap rounds.

I had 2 basic questions but please read for yourself, I hope you have access to every post and pm. 3 things I asked.
1. How to rebuild an m903 sabot for decorative purposes ( room deco). I pointed out that im not talking abot build a live round or a tungsten core.

2. Second question was, how the sabot of the mk244 works. With reference to how the twist is transferred from the sabot to the tungsten core.

A few members started saying that is ITAR restricted data. To be honest, I am European, ITAR... never heard of her.
Of course I know it now, but that doesn't change the fact that at least in my country I can ask any question without being charged. But okay my bad its a US forum, US laws are obviously different.

After my last official post, I wrote 2 pm's. (Please note the red bell sign only updates when I send a pm or change the page/category).
After I sent the pm's the red bell sign updated. I clicked on it and saw the post from Marinepmi.
"And we have a right to ban your ass. I was polite the first time. Cease asking about ITAR controlled items on a US website. Now. Or you will be gone. Consider this your last warning."

So, and here are start the big LIES of Marinepmi.

Marinepmi ,please show me where you warned me the first time?
Ohhh wait , it doesn't exist. You are a Liar.
And a polite warning does not exist either way because a warning must be crystal clear and not polite.

And now your greater lie, your second warning which was in truth the first warning, was a ban!

After the red bell sign appeared and I read your post "we have the right to ban your ass". what did I do after that?
I tell you, I stopped posting immediately and decide to write you a pm, I was kind and wanted to know where the problem is etc...

What did you do? You decided not to answer and just pressed the ban button like an ignorant child.

So now im asking you lowlight.
Is this the way you want to run the forum? If yes? then ban me again because so I no longer want to be a part of SH.

coldboreAU

 

[W54/XM-388]

I'll give you style points for trying to go out in a blaze of infamy.

 

[JBoomhauer]

To get someone’s attention put an @ before their name.

Like this,

@MarinePMI
@lowlight

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Wow... I see another blaze of glory turd-burgler leaving momentarily. Wonder how many ID's he'es had (she? I don't want to assume the gender)... floating out there.

Ah ahh ahahahahah a...

Wow. Just wow.

Sirhr

 

[Rthur]

I fucked a pedophile Alien in a Pizza shop once...

Well I have no clue if it was a pedophile, but it was a helluva good night, great conversationalist too

R

 

[DuneBoer]

So im back and im calling you out loud ,Marinepmi!!! I hope lowlight is going to read this as well.

Marinepmi you are a HUGE LIAR and that is what I am proving to lowlight now!!!

I may leave the forum but in the way I want!
I reread all your messages and you intentionally use lies to ban people you don't like. That's a Fact!!!!

So lowlight here we go.
I'm pretty curious and my last two threads were about MK244 and slap rounds.

I had 2 basic questions but please read for yourself, I hope you have access to every post and pm. 3 things I asked.
1. How to rebuild an m903 sabot for decorative purposes ( room deco). I pointed out that im not talking abot build a live round or a tungsten core.

2. Second question was, how the sabot of the mk244 works. With reference to how the twist is transferred from the sabot to the tungsten core.

A few members started saying that is ITAR restricted data. To be honest, I am European, ITAR... never heard of her.
Of course I know it now, but that doesn't change the fact that at least in my country I can ask any question without being charged. But okay my bad its a US forum, US laws are obviously different.

After my last official post, I wrote 2 pm's. (Please note the red bell sign only updates when I send a pm or change the page/category).
After I sent the pm's the red bell sign updated. I clicked on it and saw the post from Marinepmi.
"And we have a right to ban your ass. I was polite the first time. Cease asking about ITAR controlled items on a US website. Now. Or you will be gone. Consider this your last warning."

So, and here are start the big LIES of Marinepmi.

Marinepmi ,please show me where you warned me the first time?
Ohhh wait , it doesn't exist. You are a Liar.
And a polite warning does not exist either way because a warning must be crystal clear and not polite.

And now your greater lie, your second warning which was in truth the first warning, was a ban!

After the red bell sign appeared and I read your post "we have the right to ban your ass". what did I do after that?
I tell you, I stopped posting immediately and decide to write you a pm, I was kind and wanted to know where the problem is etc...

What did you do? You decided not to answer and just pressed the ban button like an ignorant child.

So now im asking you lowlight.
Is this the way you want to run the forum? If yes? then ban me again because so I no longer want to be a part of SH.

coldboreAU

I AM MODERATER.......I MODERATED YOU NOT MARINE PMI.

 

[Rthur]

So im back and im calling you out loud ,Marinepmi!!! I hope lowlight is going to read this as well.

Marinepmi you are a HUGE LIAR and that is what I am proving to lowlight now!!!

I may leave the forum but in the way I want!
I reread all your messages and you intentionally use lies to ban people you don't like. That's a Fact!!!!

So lowlight here we go.
I'm pretty curious and my last two threads were about MK244 and slap rounds.

I had 2 basic questions but please read for yourself, I hope you have access to every post and pm. 3 things I asked.
1. How to rebuild an m903 sabot for decorative purposes ( room deco). I pointed out that im not talking abot build a live round or a tungsten core.

2. Second question was, how the sabot of the mk244 works. With reference to how the twist is transferred from the sabot to the tungsten core.

A few members started saying that is ITAR restricted data. To be honest, I am European, ITAR... never heard of her.
Of course I know it now, but that doesn't change the fact that at least in my country I can ask any question without being charged. But okay my bad its a US forum, US laws are obviously different.

After my last official post, I wrote 2 pm's. (Please note the red bell sign only updates when I send a pm or change the page/category).
After I sent the pm's the red bell sign updated. I clicked on it and saw the post from Marinepmi.
"And we have a right to ban your ass. I was polite the first time. Cease asking about ITAR controlled items on a US website. Now. Or you will be gone. Consider this your last warning."

So, and here are start the big LIES of Marinepmi.

Marinepmi ,please show me where you warned me the first time?
Ohhh wait , it doesn't exist. You are a Liar.
And a polite warning does not exist either way because a warning must be crystal clear and not polite.

And now your greater lie, your second warning which was in truth the first warning, was a ban!

After the red bell sign appeared and I read your post "we have the right to ban your ass". what did I do after that?
I tell you, I stopped posting immediately and decide to write you a pm, I was kind and wanted to know where the problem is etc...

What did you do? You decided not to answer and just pressed the ban button like an ignorant child.

So now im asking you lowlight.
Is this the way you want to run the forum? If yes? then ban me again because so I no longer want to be a part of SH.

coldboreAU

R

 

[abn31c]

So im back and im calling you out loud ,Marinepmi!!! I hope lowlight is going to read this as well.

Marinepmi you are a HUGE LIAR and that is what I am proving to lowlight now!!!

I may leave the forum but in the way I want!
I reread all your messages and you intentionally use lies to ban people you don't like. That's a Fact!!!!

So lowlight here we go.
I'm pretty curious and my last two threads were about MK244 and slap rounds.

I had 2 basic questions but please read for yourself, I hope you have access to every post and pm. 3 things I asked.
1. How to rebuild an m903 sabot for decorative purposes ( room deco). I pointed out that im not talking abot build a live round or a tungsten core.

2. Second question was, how the sabot of the mk244 works. With reference to how the twist is transferred from the sabot to the tungsten core.

A few members started saying that is ITAR restricted data. To be honest, I am European, ITAR... never heard of her.
Of course I know it now, but that doesn't change the fact that at least in my country I can ask any question without being charged. But okay my bad its a US forum, US laws are obviously different.

After my last official post, I wrote 2 pm's. (Please note the red bell sign only updates when I send a pm or change the page/category).
After I sent the pm's the red bell sign updated. I clicked on it and saw the post from Marinepmi.
"And we have a right to ban your ass. I was polite the first time. Cease asking about ITAR controlled items on a US website. Now. Or you will be gone. Consider this your last warning."

So, and here are start the big LIES of Marinepmi.

Marinepmi ,please show me where you warned me the first time?
Ohhh wait , it doesn't exist. You are a Liar.
And a polite warning does not exist either way because a warning must be crystal clear and not polite.

And now your greater lie, your second warning which was in truth the first warning, was a ban!

After the red bell sign appeared and I read your post "we have the right to ban your ass". what did I do after that?
I tell you, I stopped posting immediately and decide to write you a pm, I was kind and wanted to know where the problem is etc...

What did you do? You decided not to answer and just pressed the ban button like an ignorant child.

So now im asking you lowlight.
Is this the way you want to run the forum? If yes? then ban me again because so I no longer want to be a part of SH.

coldboreAU

 

[lash]

So im back and im calling you out loud ,Marinepmi!!! I hope lowlight is going to read this as well.

Marinepmi you are a HUGE LIAR and that is what I am proving to lowlight now!!!

I may leave the forum but in the way I want!
I reread all your messages and you intentionally use lies to ban people you don't like. That's a Fact!!!!

So lowlight here we go.
I'm pretty curious and my last two threads were about MK244 and slap rounds.

I had 2 basic questions but please read for yourself, I hope you have access to every post and pm. 3 things I asked.
1. How to rebuild an m903 sabot for decorative purposes ( room deco). I pointed out that im not talking abot build a live round or a tungsten core.

2. Second question was, how the sabot of the mk244 works. With reference to how the twist is transferred from the sabot to the tungsten core.

A few members started saying that is ITAR restricted data. To be honest, I am European, ITAR... never heard of her.
Of course I know it now, but that doesn't change the fact that at least in my country I can ask any question without being charged. But okay my bad its a US forum, US laws are obviously different.

After my last official post, I wrote 2 pm's. (Please note the red bell sign only updates when I send a pm or change the page/category).
After I sent the pm's the red bell sign updated. I clicked on it and saw the post from Marinepmi.
"And we have a right to ban your ass. I was polite the first time. Cease asking about ITAR controlled items on a US website. Now. Or you will be gone. Consider this your last warning."

So, and here are start the big LIES of Marinepmi.

Marinepmi ,please show me where you warned me the first time?
Ohhh wait , it doesn't exist. You are a Liar.
And a polite warning does not exist either way because a warning must be crystal clear and not polite.

And now your greater lie, your second warning which was in truth the first warning, was a ban!

After the red bell sign appeared and I read your post "we have the right to ban your ass". what did I do after that?
I tell you, I stopped posting immediately and decide to write you a pm, I was kind and wanted to know where the problem is etc...

What did you do? You decided not to answer and just pressed the ban button like an ignorant child.

So now im asking you lowlight.
Is this the way you want to run the forum? If yes? then ban me again because so I no longer want to be a part of SH.

coldboreAU

 

[Threadcutter308]

I AM MODERATER.......I MODERATED YOU NOT MARINE PMI.

RENOB

 

[Threadcutter308]

Ja, das ist Papa Rocks wiedergeboren.

 

[lariat]

Sure.
But what makes you think that "high end scopes" are not available in France, Germany, Sweden, (insert other EU country), with the proper paperwork and fees paid to US government?

For something that is ITAR restricted to be sold to you overseas it has to be:
1. sold to the USG who do what they please with it.
2. Ensure that there is approval from the USG to sell to a country or individual/business. There is a list of specific unapproved entities that is available to review to ensure you don't fuck up. If you don't review it and screw up, that's on you, not good. You can try to get an exemption for this, but this rarely happens. Like damn near never unless it serves the current USG priorities.

The other ways are illegal. This is a strict no-go area. Fines and penalties are huge and can lead to criminal charges. Ask some of the defense contractors who have FAFO. The mods are correct, if you even think its ITAR controlled, don't talk about it.

There are lawyers who are dedicated to this effort of determining if a product is export controlled. By the time you finish the analysis with them on your favorite invention that you intend to sell to the world you will know what the penalties are for crossing the USG in this matter. Not everything is ITAR, some is EAR99 and other classifications that carry their own export conditions. Some scopes probably fall under EAR99, dunno I haven't looked into it. Not all of them do though that's for damn sure; some are definitely ITAR.

This is actually one of the things I wonder about with all the damn drones going over to Ukraine. Companies initially were dying to get pics of their drones doing cool shit. If ONE attribute of that UAV advances the unit from EAR99 to ITAR and they haven't cleared the shipment all they have done is record their violation should the correct US department decide to audit. There is a practical aspect to it as well - what if those assets are then turned on US troops or allies and/or give the enemy a tactical advantage either via use or reverse engineering? The implications are real and ITAR is there for a reason.

 

[Maser]

So im back and im calling you out loud ,Marinepmi!!! I hope lowlight is going to read this as well.

Marinepmi you are a HUGE LIAR and that is what I am proving to lowlight now!!!

I may leave the forum but in the way I want!
I reread all your messages and you intentionally use lies to ban people you don't like. That's a Fact!!!!

So lowlight here we go.
I'm pretty curious and my last two threads were about MK244 and slap rounds.

I had 2 basic questions but please read for yourself, I hope you have access to every post and pm. 3 things I asked.
1. How to rebuild an m903 sabot for decorative purposes ( room deco). I pointed out that im not talking abot build a live round or a tungsten core.

2. Second question was, how the sabot of the mk244 works. With reference to how the twist is transferred from the sabot to the tungsten core.

A few members started saying that is ITAR restricted data. To be honest, I am European, ITAR... never heard of her.
Of course I know it now, but that doesn't change the fact that at least in my country I can ask any question without being charged. But okay my bad its a US forum, US laws are obviously different.

After my last official post, I wrote 2 pm's. (Please note the red bell sign only updates when I send a pm or change the page/category).
After I sent the pm's the red bell sign updated. I clicked on it and saw the post from Marinepmi.
"And we have a right to ban your ass. I was polite the first time. Cease asking about ITAR controlled items on a US website. Now. Or you will be gone. Consider this your last warning."

So, and here are start the big LIES of Marinepmi.

Marinepmi ,please show me where you warned me the first time?
Ohhh wait , it doesn't exist. You are a Liar.
And a polite warning does not exist either way because a warning must be crystal clear and not polite.

And now your greater lie, your second warning which was in truth the first warning, was a ban!

After the red bell sign appeared and I read your post "we have the right to ban your ass". what did I do after that?
I tell you, I stopped posting immediately and decide to write you a pm, I was kind and wanted to know where the problem is etc...

What did you do? You decided not to answer and just pressed the ban button like an ignorant child.

So now im asking you lowlight.
Is this the way you want to run the forum? If yes? then ban me again because so I no longer want to be a part of SH.

coldboreAU

I feel like I just grew 8 vaginas reading that.

 

[Threadcutter308]

 

[Son of Dorn]

I AM MODERATER

 

[6.5SH]

Ja, das ist Papa Rocks wiedergeboren.

I actually think its the fake ukie from Louisiana.

 

[Threadcutter308]

I AM MODERATER.......I MODERATED YOU NOT MARINE PMI.

 

[DuneBoer]

View attachment 8011812

hurtful.

 

[Bender]

There was a dude at work that blew the toilet up and the walls. They literally had to call a Hazmat team in to clean it up. So, the discussions at work on what the fuck did he eat too fucking do that must have fallen under ITAR as that was a biological weapon. He quit out of embarrassment. That shit stank bad

I think we have finally hit bottom here.

Challenge accepted

 

[Bender]

So im back and im calling you out loud ,Marinepmi!!! I hope lowlight is going to read this as well.

Marinepmi you are a HUGE LIAR and that is what I am proving to lowlight now!!!

I may leave the forum but in the way I want!
I reread all your messages and you intentionally use lies to ban people you don't like. That's a Fact!!!!

So lowlight here we go.
I'm pretty curious and my last two threads were about MK244 and slap rounds.

I had 2 basic questions but please read for yourself, I hope you have access to every post and pm. 3 things I asked.
1. How to rebuild an m903 sabot for decorative purposes ( room deco). I pointed out that im not talking abot build a live round or a tungsten core.

2. Second question was, how the sabot of the mk244 works. With reference to how the twist is transferred from the sabot to the tungsten core.

A few members started saying that is ITAR restricted data. To be honest, I am European, ITAR... never heard of her.
Of course I know it now, but that doesn't change the fact that at least in my country I can ask any question without being charged. But okay my bad its a US forum, US laws are obviously different.

After my last official post, I wrote 2 pm's. (Please note the red bell sign only updates when I send a pm or change the page/category).
After I sent the pm's the red bell sign updated. I clicked on it and saw the post from Marinepmi.
"And we have a right to ban your ass. I was polite the first time. Cease asking about ITAR controlled items on a US website. Now. Or you will be gone. Consider this your last warning."

So, and here are start the big LIES of Marinepmi.

Marinepmi ,please show me where you warned me the first time?
Ohhh wait , it doesn't exist. You are a Liar.
And a polite warning does not exist either way because a warning must be crystal clear and not polite.

And now your greater lie, your second warning which was in truth the first warning, was a ban!

After the red bell sign appeared and I read your post "we have the right to ban your ass". what did I do after that?
I tell you, I stopped posting immediately and decide to write you a pm, I was kind and wanted to know where the problem is etc...

What did you do? You decided not to answer and just pressed the ban button like an ignorant child.

So now im asking you lowlight.
Is this the way you want to run the forum? If yes? then ban me again because so I no longer want to be a part of SH.

coldboreAU

Oh my, I’ve waited for years for a new Paparock!

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

That's it? A one pump chump? Come on man, Shirley you got more!!

So im back and im calling you out loud ,Marinepmi!!! I hope lowlight is going to read this as well.

Marinepmi you are a HUGE LIAR and that is what I am proving to lowlight now!!!

I may leave the forum but in the way I want!
I reread all your messages and you intentionally use lies to ban people you don't like. That's a Fact!!!!

So lowlight here we go.
I'm pretty curious and my last two threads were about MK244 and slap rounds.

I had 2 basic questions but please read for yourself, I hope you have access to every post and pm. 3 things I asked.
1. How to rebuild an m903 sabot for decorative purposes ( room deco). I pointed out that im not talking abot build a live round or a tungsten core.

2. Second question was, how the sabot of the mk244 works. With reference to how the twist is transferred from the sabot to the tungsten core.

A few members started saying that is ITAR restricted data. To be honest, I am European, ITAR... never heard of her.
Of course I know it now, but that doesn't change the fact that at least in my country I can ask any question without being charged. But okay my bad its a US forum, US laws are obviously different.

After my last official post, I wrote 2 pm's. (Please note the red bell sign only updates when I send a pm or change the page/category).
After I sent the pm's the red bell sign updated. I clicked on it and saw the post from Marinepmi.
"And we have a right to ban your ass. I was polite the first time. Cease asking about ITAR controlled items on a US website. Now. Or you will be gone. Consider this your last warning."

So, and here are start the big LIES of Marinepmi.

Marinepmi ,please show me where you warned me the first time?
Ohhh wait , it doesn't exist. You are a Liar.
And a polite warning does not exist either way because a warning must be crystal clear and not polite.

And now your greater lie, your second warning which was in truth the first warning, was a ban!

After the red bell sign appeared and I read your post "we have the right to ban your ass". what did I do after that?
I tell you, I stopped posting immediately and decide to write you a pm, I was kind and wanted to know where the problem is etc...

What did you do? You decided not to answer and just pressed the ban button like an ignorant child.

So now im asking you lowlight.
Is this the way you want to run the forum? If yes? then ban me again because so I no longer want to be a part of SH.

coldboreAU

Yes, that is an Airplane reference.

 

[Long_Action]

I see your ITAR, and raise you Russian ITAR

 

[lariat]

I see your ITAR, and raise you Russian ITARView attachment 8011882

Can’t be Russian ITAR. I see no vodka.

 

[BurtG]

The implications are real and ITAR is there for a reason.

Meanwhile Clinton sells missle and sub tech
Chynese agents are in all levels of MIC/ tech / politicians / etc
Xiden leaves everything for the Chinese and muzzies in Astan


All about making every person a criminal. Like most laws.

 

[LeftyJason]

So im back and im calling you out loud ,Marinepmi!!! I hope lowlight is going to read this as well.

Marinepmi you are a HUGE LIAR and that is what I am proving to lowlight now!!!

I may leave the forum but in the way I want!
I reread all your messages and you intentionally use lies to ban people you don't like. That's a Fact!!!!

So lowlight here we go.
I'm pretty curious and my last two threads were about MK244 and slap rounds.

I had 2 basic questions but please read for yourself, I hope you have access to every post and pm. 3 things I asked.
1. How to rebuild an m903 sabot for decorative purposes ( room deco). I pointed out that im not talking abot build a live round or a tungsten core.

2. Second question was, how the sabot of the mk244 works. With reference to how the twist is transferred from the sabot to the tungsten core.

A few members started saying that is ITAR restricted data. To be honest, I am European, ITAR... never heard of her.
Of course I know it now, but that doesn't change the fact that at least in my country I can ask any question without being charged. But okay my bad its a US forum, US laws are obviously different.

After my last official post, I wrote 2 pm's. (Please note the red bell sign only updates when I send a pm or change the page/category).
After I sent the pm's the red bell sign updated. I clicked on it and saw the post from Marinepmi.
"And we have a right to ban your ass. I was polite the first time. Cease asking about ITAR controlled items on a US website. Now. Or you will be gone. Consider this your last warning."

So, and here are start the big LIES of Marinepmi.

Marinepmi ,please show me where you warned me the first time?
Ohhh wait , it doesn't exist. You are a Liar.
And a polite warning does not exist either way because a warning must be crystal clear and not polite.

And now your greater lie, your second warning which was in truth the first warning, was a ban!

After the red bell sign appeared and I read your post "we have the right to ban your ass". what did I do after that?
I tell you, I stopped posting immediately and decide to write you a pm, I was kind and wanted to know where the problem is etc...

What did you do? You decided not to answer and just pressed the ban button like an ignorant child.

So now im asking you lowlight.
Is this the way you want to run the forum? If yes? then ban me again because so I no longer want to be a part of SH.

coldboreAU

Have they ever warned you ever about some questions you have asked before? If so that counts as a first warning.

You may be welcome to ask legally in your country. What the mods are saying since you keep asking questions that we legally can't answer without possibly going to jail, is quit asking. You may be doing something innocent with the info. Other people can read that same info and do something bad. Hence why things are protected.

Either way you are here at the mercy of lowlight. He has specified certain people to help out to moderate. They can moderate. They can get rid of you for practically any reason. Ain't nothing you can do about it.

Calling people out like that will get you gone once they let the rest of everybody have their fun. It's happened a few times before. You're not worth Legendary. You're nothing.

Either way bye Felicia.

 

[Huskydriver]

So im back and im calling you out loud ,Marinepmi!!! I hope lowlight is going to read this as well.

Marinepmi you are a HUGE LIAR and that is what I am proving to lowlight now!!!

I may leave the forum but in the way I want!
I reread all your messages and you intentionally use lies to ban people you don't like. That's a Fact!!!!

So lowlight here we go.
I'm pretty curious and my last two threads were about MK244 and slap rounds.

I had 2 basic questions but please read for yourself, I hope you have access to every post and pm. 3 things I asked.
1. How to rebuild an m903 sabot for decorative purposes ( room deco). I pointed out that im not talking abot build a live round or a tungsten core.

2. Second question was, how the sabot of the mk244 works. With reference to how the twist is transferred from the sabot to the tungsten core.

A few members started saying that is ITAR restricted data. To be honest, I am European, ITAR... never heard of her.
Of course I know it now, but that doesn't change the fact that at least in my country I can ask any question without being charged. But okay my bad its a US forum, US laws are obviously different.

After my last official post, I wrote 2 pm's. (Please note the red bell sign only updates when I send a pm or change the page/category).
After I sent the pm's the red bell sign updated. I clicked on it and saw the post from Marinepmi.
"And we have a right to ban your ass. I was polite the first time. Cease asking about ITAR controlled items on a US website. Now. Or you will be gone. Consider this your last warning."

So, and here are start the big LIES of Marinepmi.

Marinepmi ,please show me where you warned me the first time?
Ohhh wait , it doesn't exist. You are a Liar.
And a polite warning does not exist either way because a warning must be crystal clear and not polite.

And now your greater lie, your second warning which was in truth the first warning, was a ban!

After the red bell sign appeared and I read your post "we have the right to ban your ass". what did I do after that?
I tell you, I stopped posting immediately and decide to write you a pm, I was kind and wanted to know where the problem is etc...

What did you do? You decided not to answer and just pressed the ban button like an ignorant child.

So now im asking you lowlight.
Is this the way you want to run the forum? If yes? then ban me again because so I no longer want to be a part of SH.

coldboreAU

 

[perttime]

.... Not everything is ITAR, some is EAR99 and other classifications that carry their own export conditions. Some scopes probably fall under EAR99, dunno I haven't looked into it. Not all of them do though that's for damn sure; some are definitely ITAR.
....

So it isn't even easy to know what is ITAR and what is something else.

It seems that getting even something like a rifle stock or chassis out of USA is bureaucratic and costly enough that nobody in their right mind will do it for just one piece.

.... some might be crazy enough to do it "just because".

 

[Mike Casselton]

@50caldude

This is The United States of America. AKA, The US.
AKA, 'Merica.

We don't need a reason to get rid of you. We don't have to provide proof. We can do it "just 'cause."

We can do it because we can do it.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Violating ITAR is like violating "community guidelines"

Its open to interpretation and descretion by the authoritive body.

2 random people on a forum arent going anywhere close to violating ITAR unless its regarding classified technology or some seriously destructive devices.

in most cases ITAR is around physical items moving across borders not the discussion of said items moving across borders.

this whole ITAR fearmongering is ridiculous.

 

[lariat]

Violating ITAR is like violating "community guidelines"

Its open to interpretation and descretion by the authoritive body.

2 random people on a forum arent going anywhere close to violating ITAR unless its regarding classified technology or some seriously destructive devices.

in most cases ITAR is around physical items moving across borders not the discussion of said items moving across borders.

this whole ITAR fearmongering is ridiculous.

Incorrect. ITAR 100% surrounds data and the use of it, which is the genesis of this thread (discussion of controlled data as opposed to physical ownership of a controlled item). This is the reason there are ITAR certification requirements for databases. If someone has knowledge in their head of a controlled item and begin to discuss it openly they could technically in violation of ITAR because they are part of the chain of custody of the information. STFU is always the best guideline when in doubt.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Incorrect. ITAR 100% surrounds data and the use of it, which is the genesis of this thread (discussion of controlled data as opposed to physical ownership of a controlled item). This is the reason there are ITAR certification requirements for databases. If someone has knowledge in their head of a controlled item and begin to discuss it openly they could technically in violation of ITAR because they are part of the chain of custody of the information. STFU is always the best guideline when in doubt.

right its like an NDA violation to that person in the chain but how does that apply to 2nd, 3rd and 100th hand information to people not in the chain of custody?

2 guys not in the chain of custody sitting in a bar discussing what they heard on the internet is a far cry from an chargable ITAR violation.

 

[Lowlight]

It’s unwanted attention when we know we have government agencies watching the site

Asking the same questions about restrictioned items is a major red flag. Sure we can argue around but why ? It’s a questions about something civilians don’t use.

You’re a fucking asshole 50Cal/ Coldbore AU instead of taking a hint you want to argue your rights to do what you want. Plus you tried getting around the ban more than once

You’re gone asshole but have fun with the chew toy

 

[Lowlight]

Just an FYI

I get a ton of questions and account attempting to register from Ukraine too

I block and remove them, we have no way to Vet this stuff, asking questions that we know the information will be used in an active war zone when we don’t know who we are talking too is bad.

There is no way to vet this stuff so fuck you

I err of the side of better safe than sorry when it comes to talking to foreign nationals of any flavor You don’t know if it’s a set up by our own government

That is what they did, we don’t trust anyone or anything anymore so bye.

 

[Baron23]

 

[TheGerman]

Night vision looks green.

 

[Cardboard55]

This one has baffled friend and foe alike for years:

"How superglue works"

 

[sirhrmechanic]

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I’ll see your Austrian Corporal… and raise you a “Meowseph” Stalin.

Just remember that the last time an Austrian corporal got rejected, he burned down Europe.

Sirhr

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Well… that and streusel… Oh wait… that was from Prague…

Sirhr

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Austrian Corporal reacts to Sabot Recipes

Epic melt-down in the Bear Pit after Austrian whack-job doesn't get his way and becomes the next Paparocks! Legendary!

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Well... this about sums it up!

Sirhr

 

[6.5SH]

Austrian Corporal reacts to Sabot Recipes

Epic melt-down in the Bear Pit after Austrian whack-job doesn't get his way and becomes the next Paparocks! Legendary!

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Well... this about sums it up!

Sirhr

"That last part is a secret"

 

[earthquake]

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I just have to ask....WTF was that? Besides a very bad day at work....

 

[MarinePMI]

Why am I reminded of the whining of a 12 year old schoolgirl, complaining that life isn't fair? Smdh...

Ban cat is bored...

 

[MarinePMI]

Violating ITAR is like violating "community guidelines"

Its open to interpretation and descretion by the authoritive body.

2 random people on a forum arent going anywhere close to violating ITAR unless its regarding classified technology or some seriously destructive devices.

in most cases ITAR is around physical items moving across borders not the discussion of said items moving across borders.

this whole ITAR fearmongering is ridiculous.

You sir, are incorrect, and/or have dated information and understanding of current ITAR regs. And yes, I deal with ITAR items at work; on a daily basis.

And today, most ITAR violations tend to be technical exports (verbal or electronic). No one needs to sneak physical stuff out anymore, when they can electronically export it to another country that can build it for them. High density, small form factor, storage devices have changed (dramatically) how illegal exports are occurring (nevermind the malicious code that has been found on SWAG memory stick handouts at trade shows).

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Like Barney.
That's epic

 

[abn31c]

I just have to ask....WTF was that? Besides a very bad day at work....

Lol, no clue...I just lifted it somewhere....

 

[BurtG]

nevermind the malicious code that has been found on SWAG memory stick handouts at trade shows).

Please expound

 

[MarinePMI]

Please expound

Malicious code, hidden on free memory sticks (usually handed out as free "SWAG"), that when plugged into your computer, downloads the code onto your machine, which has a call home feature. It "calls home" and allows people to access your computer remotely, and download whatever they want.

If no one has ever told you before, NEVER use a free/SWAG memory stick without having it scanned first (and even then I wouldn't trust them) on a separate stand alone computer that is used for nothing but scanning/screening devices.

This is all a part of the emerging "cyberwar" that is going on today.