You’re aware the Army made changes that KAC recommended against and were the root cause of the issues, right?
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I am. I heard it straight from the kac rep that did our initial briefing with them. I said it somewhere in this discussion. The guy told us a dozen times over two days that it wasn't the rifle they wanted to send us, it was the rifle the army wanted.
There is a lot of related, very good information in this thread from more people with first hand experience;
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History of the SR25
Hey y’all - figured this would get better/more accurate info and/or more responses in the vintage section at this point. At this particular point, I have only 2 questions to start: 1) Chris Bartocci claims that the first SR25’s actually used Remington sourced 5R barrels..?? Is this true? I...
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What in the flying fuck is wrong with you? Member since 2005 and you think in 23yrs of the GWOT there wouldn't be some joes stepping into the forums to talk about the gear they had? You got into a pricing argument and then started playing paddy-cake with your own shit, throwing an embarrassing tantrum and baselessly accusing Jonus as a fraud.
Asking him to provide his DD214 on SH because he said bad things about your favorite gun company? Nobody who is "In-the-Know" military would ask another veteran to do that. This is very telling how fucking "retarded" you are.
Dude came on here claiming a M110 costs 4-5x what they actually do, and claims he got paperwork with one stating that. Everything else says otherwise, so no I’m not going to believe a word he says. Like I said, show something showing they cost $50K like his initial claim… I’ll wait…
I didn't know that... I was under the impression it was still Marvin's original design. Learn something new everyday.
I guarantee there's more to that Barrel than what the obvious visual observations present. I've tested various forms of barrel fluting and how they effect accuracy, unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to test a dimpled Barrel.
The barrel looks to be a small frame Dimpled ECC design (M110) contour with the Knights extended mid-length gas system.
I don’t know the details, it could be his original design invented in the employ of KAC which could make it KAC’s property?
Just to throw gas on the fire--I've never understood the expense of KAC rifle.
And to throw more gas: There are rifles as good for significantly less. Give me an LMT and the cash diff for ammo all day every day and twice on Sunday.
And to throw more gas: There are rifles as good for significantly less. Give me an LMT and the cash diff for ammo all day every day and twice on Sunday.
Are delfer and dumbbutt done arguing yet? Asking for a friend.
Why are we talking about SR-25s and M110s in a thread about the UK’s new 11.5” 5.56 KAC contract carbine?
because this is the Hide. you've been here 11 years you should know things rarely stay on topic
.....and never the courtesy offered to acknowledge the thread is being hijacked down a different rabbit hole. Skip a post or two and you are lost forever. Folks start throwing personal F-bombs about others responses with no relevance to OP. That can be the Hide some days.
I've always used a 12ga for rabbits, but 20ga will work too...
Most here are probably already aware of the thread, but just in case anyone else was interested in the optic, there's a thread on it that's been resurrected at post #56.
SH - Vortex AMG
SH - Vortex AMG
So you're talking shit? Which one of the syndrome of a down members are you in your profile pic? Are you snap crackle or pop, and as a follow up question, what did it feel like when they flushed the toilet with your head in it in high school? I'll tell you what though, you tell me what the windows on that short ass bus taste like, and I'll tell you what women smell like in person. You boys look like the trailer park boys, but if they just walked out into the daylight after spending all night paying for lap dances at a gay strip club.
Try me again Encino man, I'm your huckleberry.
you missed, by a wide margin, the point of his post
also what he stated for KAC reliability and the like is well known by end users in the field. Curious, how many rounds downrange did you use for and in which theater?
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Just imagine, this is your crew, and the best picture you can come up with for your profile.
I've got 6 sisters and 4 of them could whip anyone in this picture without breaking a fucking sweat.
Just imagine, this is your crew, and the best picture you can come up with for your profile.
I've got 6 sisters and 4 of them could whip anyone in this picture without breaking a fucking sweat.
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Does the deployment kit include the Night vision clip on? I think that would add a bunch to the cost.
Yeah, it did. Had a shitty little mouse pad with something like a slap bracelet that kids played with in the 80's to hold it together. The clip on was awesome, but everyone lost the mouse pad and slap bracelet pretty early on.
What Im gathering is the sold to civvie deployment kits included a can but not the NV clip on and we remember how expensive the KAC nightvision clip ons were.
And I have found civvie mil sim cloners claim to know more about the systems than the actual end users and try to argue it to ad nauseum.
@Hecouldgoalltheway Thanks for sharing your personal real life experience with us and thanks for your service.
And I have found civvie mil sim cloners claim to know more about the systems than the actual end users and try to argue it to ad nauseum.
@Hecouldgoalltheway Thanks for sharing your personal real life experience with us and thanks for your service.
As much as I am a fan of their gear, I think I am done with KAC. It just takes too much energy to track stuff down. Good looking upper. Can't wait for the random production run of 60 uppers,
If people think that SR16 uppers are absurdly priced, just wait for these to hit GB...
Because I'm caffeinated, this thread reminded me when an armorer was hired by our PMC on a new contract in Iraq. Dude was a gun nut and egg head armorer. Great guy. Anyway, Bro made a huge purchase of everything Noveske. I walked into the shipping container armory the company made him and I fucking laughed at all the shit he bought! I was digging it, just blown away the company let him go this tier level. We had basic Colt and fucken Bushmaster prior. Welp, a month later I'm rolling dude to BIAP and I'm like, "What rotation they got you on? He replied he got fired because the company found out he could have bought much cheaper equipment with the money they allotted him. Fucked up.
All purse swinging aside...
KAC prices must be going up even more now. Market demand for them has gotten out of control. This will only make it worse.
KAC prices must be going up even more now. Market demand for them has gotten out of control. This will only make it worse.
Thats spot on. I actually dont get the hype there is for the m110s and older sr25s. They were probably better than everything else at the time but theyre junk compared to a new one
Your vocabulary, grammar, sentence structure and humor is too good to be a sniper. I'm thinking you are a comedy writer with a BA in English.
Does the government get their usual inverted discount?
Anybody got their hands on a KS1 yet?
Looks like a different profile barrel than the standard SR15 Mod 2? Aside from that- whats the differences KS1 vs SR15 Mod 2 ??
Looks like a different profile barrel than the standard SR15 Mod 2? Aside from that- whats the differences KS1 vs SR15 Mod 2 ??
Where do i start, pretty much everything. Urx6, different barrel, new lower with full ambi controls. I guess some of the sr15s had notched upper and 3.2 bolts so thats not really new
Im not claiming anything towards anyone, but every time I read snipershide or arfcom I’m reminded of this navy seal copy pasta and I chuckle. Internet is good for lolz
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
Trying to keep this thread classy, so do you have pics of the sisters? For research purposes only.
SR15 is great, prices are retarded. Old Noveske is missed. Larue is gay, their uppers are not.
I masterbate with a pinky up.
Class can't be learned plebs.
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Wildebeests bro, the lot of them. That's why I said 4 could do it without breaking a sweat. The other two could do it also, but I think they wake up sweaty, and I was trying to keep it honest.
Quitter. Ring the bell. Ring the fucking bell.
I came to this thread excited to learn about this new KS-1.
Boy, did this ever turn out to be a disappointment.
Boy, did this ever turn out to be a disappointment.
Guess I touched a nerve. You should see someone about that.
To answer your question, none of them, but your tantrum is not in vain. We did discover both that your sisters are wildebeests and that you're so insecure in your manhood that you went from a job in supply to playing keyboard warrior to prove to yourself that you're not just another 70 IQ drain boner. Could be worse. You could be 308pirate.
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Hey, this is Jack at KAC.
If anybody wants to ask about the KS-1, and is still actually reading this thread, I'll answer what I can.
And before it tangents again:
Yeah, the M110 had plenty of opportunities for improvement, which we've been doing in the nearly 2 decades since the contract was awarded. We're literally 2 generations past the M110 on everything at this point, from rifles to suppressors. Yes, I agree that people chasing down exact M110 clones is silly, and you're going to wind up paying way more than they're worth. Even personally I'd much rather have a Mk 11 Mod 0 than an M110 SASS.
If anybody wants to ask about the KS-1, and is still actually reading this thread, I'll answer what I can.
And before it tangents again:
Yeah, the M110 had plenty of opportunities for improvement, which we've been doing in the nearly 2 decades since the contract was awarded. We're literally 2 generations past the M110 on everything at this point, from rifles to suppressors. Yes, I agree that people chasing down exact M110 clones is silly, and you're going to wind up paying way more than they're worth. Even personally I'd much rather have a Mk 11 Mod 0 than an M110 SASS.
Is the KS-1 using the intermediate length gas system, and if so, is the 13.7 " barrel the shortest you've offed yet with that gas system?
Is it optimized for suppressed, and will running un-suppressed cause any issues?
Will the upper be sold separately for those who want to P&W/non-NFA?
The KS-1 uses our "intermediate" port location.
It is indeed the shortest barrel with that port location.
The combination of the Pressure Reduction Technology (PRT) suppressor, the Mod 2 gas system, and the E3.2 bolt, makes the rifle run nearly identically whether suppressed or unsuppressed. If a traditional (high backpressure) suppressor is used rather than a low/no backpressure suppressor the E3.2 bolt still does a very good job of getting the fired case out of the gun fast enough to maintain reliability.
Separate upper receivers are planned to be available.
Thanks for posting.
Are yall still making your own cut rifled barrels in house for the APR and APC??
Yes, most of our barrels are produced in-house.
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