I just receved my Kahles K 6-24X56 the other day and have ordered a set of American Precision Arms rings to mount it in. I chose the APA rings because I know Jered does not settle for less than perfection & this shows when talking to him and in the work he and his shop puts out. So when I heard he was designing and building his own rings I had to start learning about them. I watched the video posted here on them several times and it became immediately apparent that he did not just stick with the mold that had been set so many years ago for "tactical/precision/hard use" rings. He did in fact reinvent the wheel, as he did with his latch/release system on his RTG and (IMO after using it) improved on every other system out there.After talking to Jered at length about the rings I beleve he has done exactly that, improved on every aspect other ring design out there but as in the RTG not only in fuction but also in form. They both are a very clean design with seamless transitions from one surface to an other. There are no unchamfered or sharp edged to catch or snag. I as many out there have had the oppertunity to try about every other major manfacturers ring and have found things that I have not liked about most all of them, but from my research Jered has identified and corrected all of my complaints with others rings. As of today I have not receved the rings but expect to in the next few days and will report back with my personal thoughts as to if the rings are what I think they are...more to come.
On to the scope its a Kahles K 6-24X56 with the MIL4 reticle in the FFP & the MIL CCW turrets. I will be comparing it to my S&B PMII 5-25X56 with the P4F & same turrets. It is roughly the same size and weight as the PMII (I will post pics of both in a few days). The adjustments on both scopes feel about the same: about the same resistance, detents feel the same, spacing for detents on turrets and mag ring travel. The only real difference in terms of feel is the light detents at each yard marker on the parallax adjustment on the Kahles. Personally I dont see the need for it as the marked distance means nothing to me b/c as the atmosphere changes so will the parallax correction. The other major obvious difference in this scope is the parallax knob placement (under the elevation turret). For me its no "game changer" but it is a very comfortable and intuitive location. I think the best thing about its location is that it allows room for the illumination dial to be moved off the main tube and on to the erector housing. This gives more room to mount the rear ring and a bubble level if so desired, and IMO makes for a cleaner looking scope. The color of the scope is almost a plum color kinda reminds me of the old Leuoplds but in a matte finish. So IMO the fit and finish is spot on for a scope in this price range, a job well done.
Unfortunately I am not able to comment on the reliability of this scope as I have not mounted it yet. But I have spent the last few days with it sitting next to my PMII.*All my comparison so far has been at short range 150yds & less in my back yard, but will be taking it to 1k and beyond soon and will report back* I am happy to report that the optics is so close to my Bender that I cant tell a difference. The image color & resolution are both spot on. I did an extensive side by side in low light to dark on 2 different nights and cant tell the 2 scopes apart. Both seem to be equal on all power ranges in low light in their ability to gather light and allow you to not only see an object but make out details. I would start at a low power and dial up until the immage would deteriorate and both scopes would be on the same magnification. I was able to use the Benders reticle with out illumination longer in the fading light but thats what the illumination is for. I found the Kahles illumination was bright enough to be seen well in the day light, but had plenty of adjustment to make it perfect under all lighting conditions. It illuminates the whold reticle with the center being brighter as opposed to the Bender that just lights the center. I did find the illumination on the Kahles would wash out the immage in low light if set too bright and the Bender would not, but thats why its adjustable. I also found the Kahles had no tunneling like the Bender (which IMO is pretty bad) The Kahles does fish bowl or curve the immage just alittle on the lowest magnification settings as do a lot of other scopes in this mag range. The Kahles does have a noticeably larger eye box than the Bender so your eye position is not as critical. It reminds me more of a Hensoldt/Zeiss in that reguard. Both scopes went unuseable in the same ammount of light.
So as of now I have to say the new Kahles K 6-24X56 is holding its own very well with the slightly higher priced PMII (which BTW is what I consider to be the benchmark for all other scopes). More to come including pics...
See this thread for the APA ring review:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3465839&#Post3465839
On to the scope its a Kahles K 6-24X56 with the MIL4 reticle in the FFP & the MIL CCW turrets. I will be comparing it to my S&B PMII 5-25X56 with the P4F & same turrets. It is roughly the same size and weight as the PMII (I will post pics of both in a few days). The adjustments on both scopes feel about the same: about the same resistance, detents feel the same, spacing for detents on turrets and mag ring travel. The only real difference in terms of feel is the light detents at each yard marker on the parallax adjustment on the Kahles. Personally I dont see the need for it as the marked distance means nothing to me b/c as the atmosphere changes so will the parallax correction. The other major obvious difference in this scope is the parallax knob placement (under the elevation turret). For me its no "game changer" but it is a very comfortable and intuitive location. I think the best thing about its location is that it allows room for the illumination dial to be moved off the main tube and on to the erector housing. This gives more room to mount the rear ring and a bubble level if so desired, and IMO makes for a cleaner looking scope. The color of the scope is almost a plum color kinda reminds me of the old Leuoplds but in a matte finish. So IMO the fit and finish is spot on for a scope in this price range, a job well done.
Unfortunately I am not able to comment on the reliability of this scope as I have not mounted it yet. But I have spent the last few days with it sitting next to my PMII.*All my comparison so far has been at short range 150yds & less in my back yard, but will be taking it to 1k and beyond soon and will report back* I am happy to report that the optics is so close to my Bender that I cant tell a difference. The image color & resolution are both spot on. I did an extensive side by side in low light to dark on 2 different nights and cant tell the 2 scopes apart. Both seem to be equal on all power ranges in low light in their ability to gather light and allow you to not only see an object but make out details. I would start at a low power and dial up until the immage would deteriorate and both scopes would be on the same magnification. I was able to use the Benders reticle with out illumination longer in the fading light but thats what the illumination is for. I found the Kahles illumination was bright enough to be seen well in the day light, but had plenty of adjustment to make it perfect under all lighting conditions. It illuminates the whold reticle with the center being brighter as opposed to the Bender that just lights the center. I did find the illumination on the Kahles would wash out the immage in low light if set too bright and the Bender would not, but thats why its adjustable. I also found the Kahles had no tunneling like the Bender (which IMO is pretty bad) The Kahles does fish bowl or curve the immage just alittle on the lowest magnification settings as do a lot of other scopes in this mag range. The Kahles does have a noticeably larger eye box than the Bender so your eye position is not as critical. It reminds me more of a Hensoldt/Zeiss in that reguard. Both scopes went unuseable in the same ammount of light.
So as of now I have to say the new Kahles K 6-24X56 is holding its own very well with the slightly higher priced PMII (which BTW is what I consider to be the benchmark for all other scopes). More to come including pics...
See this thread for the APA ring review:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3465839&#Post3465839
