Best thing I've heard was when I was running my larue in a local match and a fellow larue owner commented how bad it was that my gun is so scratched up.
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My tOBR converted to 260 (had to buy the barrel from the classifieds on arfcom, refer to 2nd complaint) is a hammer and I'd put it against anyone else's out there.
What exactly is a hammer to you? Does it go sub .75moa consistently? Sub .5moa?
My unwanted 2 cents:
I purchased an original OBR 762 back before the tOBR was a thing. It's a great rifle and the tolerances are actually very good. (It's not a JP, but it's pretty damn good.)
Lockup on the 762 upper with the lower is tight... and it's a thing of beauty.
One day I was sitting around and said to myself "Self, what you need is one of those UU 65CM +2 uppers for your OBR. Yeah, that'll be fun..." and I ordered one.
It arrived on time (as it shipped right away), and I got to work assembling.
The single most massive issue is that unlike the original upper/lower lockup, the new upper has so much play it's not remotely possible to end up with decent accuracy. (More over, Larue uses a proprietary lower pin that prevents you from using other manufacturers slightly larger take down pins.)
When I called them, I got the run around... that is to say there was not interest in solving this issue. In fact, the person on the phone was clearly looking for BS reasons as to why it lockup was so poor. (The real reason appears to be that they've lowered their standards to "milspec" and you get what you get.) Their solution was to tell me to use an AccuWedge. ...and in order to get an AccuWedge to work on an AR-10, you have to sand the crap out of the wedge to fit it.
Frankly, I'm not really thrilled with Larue. Is it a great rifle... yeah, the 762 upper is. The 65CM upper... well, it's a beautifully manufactured piece.
Was legitimately just curious. How were the other groups, besides the two? I’ve seen a few good groups come out of those barrels, but it just wasn’t consistent. Some tended to walk a bit once warm.
Upper and lower fit have nothing to do with accuracy.
If the slop between the upper and lower js significant enough, you’ll find you have issues.
Yup.
If the barrel/upper can shift following ignition of the round, why would you expect it to hit where you were originally aiming?
What exactly is a hammer to you? Does it go sub .75moa consistently? Sub .5moa?
I’m currently sitting just over 19 weeks (134 days) on my 22” 6.5 tOBR order and it’s a bit frustrating. No idea how much longer my wait will be at this point. My guess is some time within the next 1-30 weeks
Wonder what wait times are running right now
Dang, I would cancel and pick another competitors product. Tons of good choices out there.
It's just the way Larue does it. Accept it, as frustrating as it is, and you'll get a quality product.
I ordered the grendel kit on Christmas day. Got the upper a couple months later but still no lower. I've been using it on another lower and got a load somewhat figured out.
On the flip side, my original OBR is a well made and put together rifle. The 6.5 upper they sold me, on the other hand, has a ton of slop when put on the lower, crazy amount.
I am not sure it is fair to expect a box of budget parts to be the same as an individually-fitted rifle costing more than twice as much, even if they are from the same manufacturer.
10-4 Brother my 6.5G had an issue. I mailed it back. They fixed it and she is a hammer. Hogs hate LarueThe guy is a dick. His products are dated in many places.
Also, the 5 6.5 Grendel UU/lower setups we bought are all tight fitting, good shooting, reliable guns for $1050 and the rail interface they use is so stiff we never lose laser zero for night stuff.
And his triggers at that price point are THE baseline.
If he had to change his business model to please you folks...in order to make money....I’m sure he would.
Instead he’s a millionaire and most of you probably aren’t.
10-4 Brother my 6.5G had an issue. I mailed it back. They fixed it and she is a hammer. Hogs hate Larue
On the flip side, my original OBR is a well made and put together rifle. The 6.5 upper they sold me, on the other hand, has a ton of slop when put on the lower, crazy amount.
Laure’s response to complete difference between the two: “Its MILSPEC; get an accuwedge.”
JP from now on....
So, is it safe to assume that you’re not posting groups? I mean, because upper/lower fit is so paramount to accuracy.
ML is a fucking loser.
See and that attitude is what cost larue some DOD Contracts. ML needs to pull is head out his ass and spend less time on ARFCOM. Maybe his wife wouldn't of left him.
scott
So, Larue builds me a 6.5CM upper for an OBR lower (also Larue)... and that’s a budget part that shouldn’t be expected mate properly on their lower??
Seriously?
If by "mate properly" you mean that the takedown pins insert without being hammered and the rifle cycles without malfunctions yes, I think it does mate properly.
Assuming this was a UU kit? If so they are batch made to function on a variety of lowers over which LT has no control.
With larue I call to check availability before ordering.
They need to update their site with real-time stock status.
If by "mate properly" you mean that the takedown pins insert without being hammered and the rifle cycles without malfunctions yes, I think it does mate properly.
Assuming this was a UU kit? If so they are batch made to function on a variety of lowers over which LT has no control.
However, if it does have 3mm of daylight between the upper and lower, that is incredible and more than I have seen on anything. 1mm is pretty normal on old mil guns, 3mm is quite a lot. Picture of this would be interesting.
Never gets old.
You must have used some shitty triggers. They are good for the money but far from the best.I am not a LaRue fan, but their MBT2S is the best trigger I've used, so I buy them.
My only other experience are various mil-spec, and Geissele triggers. Also, custom 1911's, but that's kindof another class.You must have used some shitty triggers. They are good for the money but far from the best.
I actually love Larue mounting systems. Curious to know how you compare them to the sphur products? thanksI've been happy with my larue predatOBR 7.62. Now if they would only make me a 6.5creed barrel for it instead of the .260
It shoots incredibly tight and I don't really feel it is out-dated. The rail system is nice and light like the new Mlok stuff on the market. I do wish the lines on the upper and lower lined up better. I thought that was kind of odd, sure is a tight fit though.
I slowly abolished their mounts and have gone to sphur for everything.