LAW folder vs Maxim CQB stock

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Building a .300blk sbr and I'm debating between going with a LAW folder and a normal stock (not sure which stock yet) or a Maxim CQB collapsible stock. Rifle will be a home defense gun and range toy, may spend some time in the truck too. Anyone have experiences with either or both of these systems? The folder will have a shorter OAL when folded but I feel like the Maxim is easier to deploy? Looking to hear people's thoughts on this.
 
I am a big fan to tell stocks vs folding. I have used some of the Maxim stuff with good luck in the past and it has found it’s way onto some hard use rifles including FBI issued carbines for vehicle teams and Canadian JTF2. Many companies including Colt use Maxim on OEM offerings.


Likewise I have seen lots of people have great luck with the law folders. However, I see something that does not allow for the weapon to cycle as a compromise regardless of how impractical it may be to use without the stock deployed. I have rifles with folding stocks but non of them are ar15s.

as for ease of deployment I don’t see either has having a particulate advantage. The law folder likely fits in a bad better while the Maxim will be flatter if you need to fit it some place that isn’t very wide. The folder also needs a little bit more space for the stock to swing out rather than pull straight out.

Another thing is that checkweld once deployed with the law folder will be more familiar. I use tall mounts(unity fast) with a more heads up shooting position with short carbines so the compromise of the Maxim is something that isn’t as big of a concern. If you exclusively shoot with a 1.5 or cowitness height mount it may feel like a much larger compromise.
 
I just switched from the Maxim brace to the Law Folder with KAK tube and Tailhook. Pics are in the AR pistol thread. I prefer the Law/Tailhook set up because it gives me a bit more length of pull, folds down shorter, and when locked in place feels more secure than the Maxim.
 
I currently use Law Tactical Gen3's on 12 carbines, these two on .300 BO's. I can highly recommend them as they are really solid, all run perfect with them and allow for various small back pack carry / storage options.

Just installed one on this KAC SR25 SBR build that is almost completed.

I have not tried the other styles of folders / sliders though.
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Law’s run FA no problem on Seekins .300 blk with subsonic, can, adjustable block and Surefire FA bolt/spring combo if that matters to you.
Can’t comment on Maxim.
 
I currently use Law Tactical Gen3's on 12 carbines, these two on .300 BO's. I can highly recommend them as they are really solid, all run perfect with them and allow for various small back pack carry / storage options.

Just installed one on this KAC SR25 SBR build that is almost completed.

I have not tried the other styles of folders / sliders though.View attachment 7665860
What stock is that on the Noveske 5.56? If I go with the LAW I'll need a shorter stock as my upper is a Gibbz side charging so I'll need the stock to be able to clear the charging handle.
 
I currently use Law Tactical Gen3's on 12 carbines, these two on .300 BO's. I can highly recommend them as they are really solid, all run perfect with them and allow for various small back pack carry / storage options.

Just installed one on this KAC SR25 SBR build that is almost completed.

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This is gold for me right now, comes at a perfect time, im getting all the pieces together to build a folding SBR to carry in a backpack. What is the gray bag you have above and the model camelbak? Anything you like/dislike about either bag? Or a different bag you would go to? Thanks!
 
What is the gray bag you have above and the model camelbak? Anything you like/dislike about either bag? Or a different bag you would go to? Thanks!
Only posting these because of a request.
The Camelback Condor has almost twice the volume capacity of the Blue Force Gear Jedburgh and Vertx EDC. I like the velcro interiors on the latter two for configuration options and the fairly discreet exterior profiles. The Vertx has multiple divided pockets. They are all well made.

There's always a story to be told.
Operation Jedburgh was a clandestine operation during World War II in which three-man teams of soldiers of the British Special Operations Executive (SOE), the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the Free French Bureau Central de Renseignements et d'Action ("Central Bureau of Intelligence and Operations") and the Dutch and Belgian armies in exile were dropped by parachute into occupied France, the Netherlands and Belgium. The objective of the Jedburgh teams was to assist allied forces who invaded France on 6 June 1944 with sabotage and guerrilla warfare, and leading local resistance forces in actions against the Germans.

The name of the operation was chosen at random from a Ministry of Defence code book, although several of those who took part in the operation later reflected that the name was apt as the town of Jedburgh in the Scottish Borders was notorious in the late Middle Ages for the activities of the raiders known as the Border Reivers.[1]

Operation Jedburgh represented the first real cooperation in Europe between SOE and the Special Operations branch of OSS. By this period in the war, SOE had insufficient resources to mount the huge operation on its own; for example, it had access to only 23 Handley Page Halifax aircraft for dropping agents and stores, barely sufficient to maintain SOE's existing networks. OSS was able to augment this force with Consolidated B-24 Liberator aircraft operating from RAF Harrington (see Operation Carpetbagger).[2]

The OSS sought to be involved since, in a single swoop, this would result in the OSS inserting more agents into northwestern Europe than it had during the entire previous period of US involvement in the war. Nevertheless, General Eisenhower, the American Supreme Commander, ensured that the French would lead the operation and on 9 June 1944 gave command of the Jedburgh teams to France.
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Only posting these because of a request.
The Camelback Condor has almost twice the volume capacity of the Blue Force Gear Jedburgh and Vertx EDC. I like the velcro interiors on the latter two for configuration options and the fairly discreet exterior profiles. The Vertx has multiple divided pockets. They are all well made.

There's always a story to be told.
Operation Jedburgh was a clandestine operation during World War II in which three-man teams of soldiers of the British Special Operations Executive (SOE), the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the Free French Bureau Central de Renseignements et d'Action ("Central Bureau of Intelligence and Operations") and the Dutch and Belgian armies in exile were dropped by parachute into occupied France, the Netherlands and Belgium. The objective of the Jedburgh teams was to assist allied forces who invaded France on 6 June 1944 with sabotage and guerrilla warfare, and leading local resistance forces in actions against the Germans.

The name of the operation was chosen at random from a Ministry of Defence code book, although several of those who took part in the operation later reflected that the name was apt as the town of Jedburgh in the Scottish Borders was notorious in the late Middle Ages for the activities of the raiders known as the Border Reivers.[1]

Operation Jedburgh represented the first real cooperation in Europe between SOE and the Special Operations branch of OSS. By this period in the war, SOE had insufficient resources to mount the huge operation on its own; for example, it had access to only 23 Handley Page Halifax aircraft for dropping agents and stores, barely sufficient to maintain SOE's existing networks. OSS was able to augment this force with Consolidated B-24 Liberator aircraft operating from RAF Harrington (see Operation Carpetbagger).[2]

The OSS sought to be involved since, in a single swoop, this would result in the OSS inserting more agents into northwestern Europe than it had during the entire previous period of US involvement in the war. Nevertheless, General Eisenhower, the American Supreme Commander, ensured that the French would lead the operation and on 9 June 1944 gave command of the Jedburgh teams to France.
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Strikeeagle1,

I know my question was off topic, but i greatly appreciate the info and pics. Thanks again! Now, back to our regular scheduled programming... :)
 
best part of all this thread??? The Harris bipod on the suppressed KAC with Leupold in the SPUHR mount on an RRS tripod



As to packs, some go with an outdoor branded pack that looks nothing like anything .mil, firearms, or hunting related.

A Kelty Redwing 40L works great. Kit inside ready to put on and go, no organizing anything. Also has room for some "spare stuff" and a couple extra water bottles, so you can just toss on the pack and go.
 
...^^looking for a new KAC bipod just for fun, if anyone has a lead on one. I use Atlas / Harris w/ KMW levers on the others.
Just got the Spuhr "interface" mount for the RMR being installed later this week.
 
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LAW folders are awesome. Here is one of mine on an 11.5” SBR, sitting in my Hill People Gear Connor V2. Probably my favorite pack I have ever used. Bought it in Manatee and it’s a fairly discrete way to carry. Not a tactical pack really, more outdoor looking.
 

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For one it's proprietary and you're married to their stuff.
The jury's still out on it, by laying that down side by side with a Law there is no comparison.
The latching mechanism is an after thought.
If it works for you fine until it breaks
 
I ultimately decided to go with the LAW folder for maximum compactness. The rest of the build is an 8.3" BA Hanson .300blk barrel, 7.5" SLR Ion ultra lite handguard, Gibbz Arms MG4 side charging upper, Aero M4E1 Freedom lower, and a DD stock. All put together it should make for a pretty compact package.

Thanks for the input everyone!