Rifle Scopes Leupold Mark 4HD

[redneckbmxer24]

I think prior in this thread it was mentioned that the Arkens and Athlons do not have any turret issues and that if those $300 scopes can get it right, so should a prestigious scope maker making $1000+ scopes.

I’ve got 5 Athlons sitting here (no $300 ones, $500-$900 at normal street price) and they all line up well on the hash marks as you run the turret. As did my MK4HD. I don’t think that’s what Nancy was crying about though, he was crying about error in the tracking.

There’s plenty of video tests of through scopes of Athlons, Arkens, Vortex and many other cheap scopes where they do tests on calibrated grids and they typically show some error, some worse than others. The Athlon vids I’ve watched were 1% or so too.

As had been said, most scopes have some error. I used to have a humbler that I have to a buddy when I moved to FL (didn’t want to haul a 200lbs piece of I-beam 1000+ miles) that I easily tested 100 scopes on that were mostly high end and the majority of them had some error. The cheaper ones more than the expensive ones as you’d expect.

 

[supercorndogs]

I am 99% he is crying about the tick marks not lining up.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

He may very well just be crying to cry. Some people be like that.

 

[supercorndogs]

He could be crying about multiple things, true. He might even be crying about other stuff to other people we don't even know about.

 

[stanley_white]

They is a pronoun that refers to people in general.

Do you think no one ever missed a target because they couldn't find it in their scope?

You don’t have specific examples.

Understood.

Thank you.

-Stan

 

[supercorndogs]

You don’t have specific examples.

Understood.

Thank you.

-Stan

I have watched multiple people try to find a coyote in their scope before it scampered away. I imagine most people who have spent any time shooting in the field have seen similar.

 

[stanley_white]

I have watched multiple people try to find a coyote in their scope before it scampered away. I imagine most people who have spent any time shooting in the field have seen similar.

That helps.

Thank you!

-Stan

 

[redneckbmxer24]

I’ve watched people time out on a stage on a square range because they couldn’t find a target in their scope. Not the scopes fault though when their brain just doesn’t engage to turn the magnification down some to get on target.

 

[BJames]

Who is they?

In what scenario did this occur?

I would like to know more.

-Stan

Go to any local PRS match on any given weekend. You’ll see it happen at least once.

 

[supercorndogs]

I was kind of suprised to get any questions about it. I thought it was as common as the wind blowing in Kansas. It's like one of the first things I learned about field shooting.

 

[stanley_white]

To be clear, the “it” I am referring to is lack of field of view causing bad things to happen.

Folks complain all day long about field of view and tunneling, but never speak to the actual impact either has on their shooting, thus why I am curious for specific examples.

It is also interesting that the Leupold MK5 5-25x56mm is like “looking through a soda straw” at certain magnifications yet lots of PRS shooters are running it.

There are theoretical problems and actual problems and I am more interested in the latter.

-Stan

 

[redneckbmxer24]

It’s only a problem if you’re retarded and can’t turn a mag ring down. I’ve had a half dozen MK5 5-25’s and never found FOV to be tight at all. It’s shit that people who don’t shoot bring up online arm chairing over specs. Go use the thing. You don’t need a FOV so large that you can see your asshole to be very proficient at finding and hitting targets. Many of the scopes with huge FOV’s like XTR3’s and Kahles are just such pieces of shit in every other regard that it’s the only “good” folks can discuss about them.

 

[stanley_white]

It’s only a problem if you’re retarded and can’t turn a mag ring down. I’ve had a half dozen MK5 5-25’s and never found FOV to be tight at all. It’s shit that people who don’t shoot bring up online arm chairing over specs. Go use the thing. You don’t need a FOV so large that you can see your asshole to be very proficient at finding and hitting targets. Many of the scopes with huge FOV’s like XTR3’s and Kahles are just such pieces of shit in every other regard that it’s the only “good” folks can discuss about them.

If you and I are going to agree then that leaves us nothing to fight about.

-Stan

 

[supercorndogs]

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It’s only a problem if you’re retarded and can’t turn a mag ring down. I’ve had a half dozen MK5 5-25’s and never found FOV to be tight at all. It’s shit that people who don’t shoot bring up online arm chairing over specs. Go use the thing. You don’t need a FOV so large that you can see your asshole to be very proficient at finding and hitting targets. Many of the scopes with huge FOV’s like XTR3’s and Kahles are just such pieces of shit in every other regard that it’s the only “good” folks can discuss about them.

It becomes a problem when people choose the wrong mag range for their scope. It becomes a problem when people go from the range to a stand and dont remeber to to turn their mag down. Until things start to happen. FOV view is very important. The diffrence between this 5-25 has a 20ft fov and this 5-25 has a 23ft FOV is not that important.

I am going to have to check out one of these new XTR3s. I mostly only have good things to say about CO built XTR3.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

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It becomes a problem when people choose the wrong mag range for their scope. It becomes a problem when people go from the range to a stand and dont remeber to to turn their mag down. Until things start to happen. FOV view is very important. The diffrence between this 5-25 has a 20ft fov and this 5-25 has a 23ft FOV is not that important.

I am going to have to check out one of these new XTR3s. I mostly only have good things to say about CO built XTR3.

There’s about to be another one on the classifieds as soon as another Ares 3-18 shows up.

 

[Burdy]

It’s only a problem if you’re retarded and can’t turn a mag ring down. I’ve had a half dozen MK5 5-25’s and never found FOV to be tight at all. It’s shit that people who don’t shoot bring up online arm chairing over specs. Go use the thing. You don’t need a FOV so large that you can see your asshole to be very proficient at finding and hitting targets. Many of the scopes with huge FOV’s like XTR3’s and Kahles are just such pieces of shit in every other regard that it’s the only “good” folks can discuss about them.

Large FoV doesn't allow you to see assholes. You need more magnification for that.