Lockable Rifle Rack

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I am loking for a patrol car type locking carbine rack with remote release for my AR-15 to mount to a wall, I talked to a lady at Big Sky Racks and she was pretty obviously against the idea but finally gave me the voicemail of the sales guy who never returned my call. Any other companies out there that make a rack like this that covers the magazine, trigger area and takedown pins? My kids are getting to the age that everything needs to be locked down but still accessible.
 
I've thought about something similar but I'd like it with a non-electric punch button code lock for either my AR or 870. Our patrol cars used to have them with keyed locks, but now everythings electric.
 
When you say "remote unlockable" define that. I could build you a rack if you figure out what you want. Pm me, if you want to discuss it.

Something like this ELS 270 AR15 « Big Sky Racks set up to mount to a wall in a house. These are patrol car racks and they have a button that can be mounted on the lightbar controls or anywhere on the dash to release the lock. I tried to talk to Big Sky about this application but they were not the least bit interested.

I've thought about something similar but I'd like it with a non-electric punch button code lock for either my AR or 870. Our patrol cars used to have them with keyed locks, but now everythings electric.

I can buy just the lock from Santa Cruz Gun Locks and fab my own rack but wanted to see if there was a better application already out there. The SC locks have remote release and a key.
 
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I called Santa Cruz and told them what my purpose was. A rifle in the closet. and they sold me an entire kit. Make sure and specify you want to have the electric lock. Then find a 120 to 12 volt transformer and wire it up.
 
Santa Cruz has everything you need. Call them and tell them what you want. You can set the SC kit up so that you can keep a mag inserted in the rifle but position the locking cuff behind the charging handle so that it cannot be charged until unlocked and removed like this: http://santacruzgunlocks.com/products/sc-917-mr-adjustable-walltrunk-rifle-rack/

If you add the remote button, you need to wire a dc power supply to activate the solenoid.
 
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What ever happened to the old fashioned way. I was raised around guns and not a single lock anywhere. I then raised two boys of my own, still no locks. I now have 5 grandkids that come and go in the house and with the exception of the safe which holds the bulk of my weapons, I still have at least a pistol and carbine readily available.

The secret is two fold. One is to start EARLY with your kids. The moment they can understand the word NO, work with them. Deal with their curiosity as it comes along. At first they'll be just curious. As they get to the point where they want to touch and feel, use as a teaching moment, emphasizing that they only touch when you've handed them the firearm. As they progress into the ages where they want to go shoot, take them. Don't make excuses that you're too busy, make time for them. Best shooting companions I've ever had are my own kids and grandkids.

That said, some common sense says that during the early years, before the child's reasoning skills have developed, keep the firearms that aren't in the safe out of reach and separated from the loaded magazines. If it isn't on my hip, and kids are around, I'll have a carbine in one place and the loaded magazines totally out of reach of the "rug-rats". Ditto for any pistol's I own.

As for the kids that come to visit? None of my kids brought anyone into the house I had to worry about nor did I worry about my kids pulling the "Hey lets go look at my dad's guns" stunt. Because they were "indoctrinated" almost from birth that was never an issue.

Firearm training is just another way to connect with your children. Every little bit helps.
 
What ever happened to the old fashioned way. I was raised around guns and not a single lock anywhere. I then raised two boys of my own, still no locks. I now have 5 grandkids that come and go in the house and with the exception of the safe which holds the bulk of my weapons, I still have at least a pistol and carbine readily available.

The secret is two fold. One is to start EARLY with your kids. The moment they can understand the word NO, work with them. Deal with their curiosity as it comes along. At first they'll be just curious. As they get to the point where they want to touch and feel, use as a teaching moment, emphasizing that they only touch when you've handed them the firearm. As they progress into the ages where they want to go shoot, take them. Don't make excuses that you're too busy, make time for them. Best shooting companions I've ever had are my own kids and grandkids.

That said, some common sense says that during the early years, before the child's reasoning skills have developed, keep the firearms that aren't in the safe out of reach and separated from the loaded magazines. If it isn't on my hip, and kids are around, I'll have a carbine in one place and the loaded magazines totally out of reach of the "rug-rats". Ditto for any pistol's I own.

As for the kids that come to visit? None of my kids brought anyone into the house I had to worry about nor did I worry about my kids pulling the "Hey lets go look at my dad's guns" stunt. Because they were "indoctrinated" almost from birth that was never an issue.

Firearm training is just another way to connect with your children. Every little bit helps.
verry well spoken
 
What ever happened to the old fashioned way. I was raised around guns and not a single lock anywhere. I then raised two boys of my own, still no locks. I now have 5 grandkids that come and go in the house and with the exception of the safe which holds the bulk of my weapons, I still have at least a pistol and carbine readily available.

The secret is two fold. One is to start EARLY with your kids. The moment they can understand the word NO, work with them. Deal with their curiosity as it comes along. At first they'll be just curious. As they get to the point where they want to touch and feel, use as a teaching moment, emphasizing that they only touch when you've handed them the firearm. As they progress into the ages where they want to go shoot, take them. Don't make excuses that you're too busy, make time for them. Best shooting companions I've ever had are my own kids and grandkids.

That said, some common sense says that during the early years, before the child's reasoning skills have developed, keep the firearms that aren't in the safe out of reach and separated from the loaded magazines. If it isn't on my hip, and kids are around, I'll have a carbine in one place and the loaded magazines totally out of reach of the "rug-rats". Ditto for any pistol's I own.

As for the kids that come to visit? None of my kids brought anyone into the house I had to worry about nor did I worry about my kids pulling the "Hey lets go look at my dad's guns" stunt. Because they were "indoctrinated" almost from birth that was never an issue.

Firearm training is just another way to connect with your children. Every little bit helps.

Kids die every year because of this attitude. I started safety training with my kids starting with Nerf guns but I won't assume that they will follow it 100% of the time, I am not willing to bet my kids life on a 4 year old never being curious.
 
The reason kids shoot them selves purposely or accidentally now a days is because the way parents teach them. Im not leaving a loaded firearm for them to get a hold of. When I was little all our guns I could get a hold of. And I was taken to target practice when ever I asked to go. I thank kids should be encouraged to handle firearms the more they handle one the better they know it the less likely they are apt to have a accident with one . I have 3 children and all 3 handle a firearm every day so its nothing new to them. I take them shooting when ever they wont to just like I was. And they know saftey better than most kids these days will ever know
 
Part of the issue today is the media broadcasting every mass shooting / gun Incident that will get the attention of young people and people with psychosocial issues. It's like they troll for disaster in order to push for their agenda. This forces a need to lock guns up. This is unfortunate.

My dad started training me at 4 years old and I believe most kids should be trained early with heavy focus on respect and safety.
 
I agree with you DM. I have 3 kids and they all know the power of a gun. All my kids, 13 and 4 and 4 (twins) know guns. My 13 yr old prob can shoot better than most adults. He's had many many many opportunities to handle guns and I have done lots of gun handling education with him and starting w the babies... But he's 13. All the guns still stay locked. It's that simple. I have lock on home defense gun. If it takes me a few extra seconds to access so be it it's part of the deal.
 
Like it or not if we don't take better steps to prevent kids from getting their hands on a firearm your state or federal legislature will. Chicago, DC and other cities have passed laws requiring that firearms be stored in a variety of unlocked and locked up conditions. Do you want to decide how your guns are stored or do you want Nancy Pelosi and Carolyn McCarthy deciding?
 
Kids die every year because of this attitude. I started safety training with my kids starting with Nerf guns but I won't assume that they will follow it 100% of the time, I am not willing to bet my kids life on a 4 year old never being curious.

I think you find that the reality out there is kids die when their parents either tell them "guns are bad, never ever, ever, go near a gun" and then don't bother to make them "gun safe". Second major factor is where parents are too busy all the time to bother with their kids for almost anything. Just think how often you'll hear a parent say "I can't wait for my kids to grow up and leave the house so I can get on with my life"?

Yes, kids die every day from gun accidents. A far rarer occurrence when the parents take the time to teach their kids about all the risks in life, including guns.

Feel free to do it anyway you want. As I said, I've raised my kids and played a big role in raising grand kids. If you want to rely on the "Lock it up" method, then pray you never have a careless moment, leaving one unsecured.

I have a daughter who works in the School System. The mere mention of the word "gun" among her fellow staff members causes them to have loose bowels and fits of panic.
 
And I apologize if I have offended any one

No offense.

Part of this discussion is because of the rift between urban and rural living. I expect widely different opinions bewtween the two areas. Gun phobia is growing in the more populated areas and as those people move to the country they are bringing their fears with them.

I can understand a party from the country that scoffs at the idea of gunsafing firearms, as an inhabitent of a city suburb a safe was one of the first things I bought.

I grew up in the 70's/80's. Guns had not yet faced full demonization and most of my friends either owned them or their parents had one somewhere in the house. Every house we went into we found the guns and fondled them. Luckily we had our own guns and knew how to handle them, also guns were not so much owned for home protection than, they were hunting pieces stored clear and empty.

Now we have created a society with less hunting but more need for home protection. Guns are more likely to be locked and loaded, stored for ready use and kids will be less aware of the danger from never being exposed to firearms.

A big part of the problem comes from that faction supposing to make all sorts of regulations "for the children". Their idea is ostrich head in the sand stupid, lets not speak or expose kids to guns and there will be no problem. They would actually be helping keep kids safe if they partnered with the NRA and promoted the Eddie Eagle program to educate these clueless kids. Of course we know that will never happen.

I work as a PO and have been assigned school dog and pony shows. In one instance I gave my talk to the kids (grade school) and the teacher opened up for questions. 80% of the hands flew up. The teacher jumped up and said "We are not going to ask the Trooper about his firearm or any of the equipment on his belt". 75% of the hands went down. The teachers mindset - not talking about hazard eliminates the hazard. Respecting the rules of the teacher I felt I missed the most important chance to educate the kids.
At my next similar event I told the teachers ahead of time I expected gun questions and I wanted to address the issue. Id love to incorporate a lesson on the 2A but I kept it to "Dont touch. Get mom and dad. Guns have a purpose and shouldnt be misused, pushing it I equated guns to a sharp saw that is plugged in that was unsafe if handled improperly".

My own kids (5 and 6) are exposed to guns as a function of my job, a facet of my hobby and perhaps something hard and sharp on my side if they snuggle in on the couch and I havent stored my walking around pistol yet. They know that anytime they are curious I will make safe and clear any of my junk and let them handle it. They see me clear it and they are told to never take a gun from someone or hold one unless the gun is made safe first. They know the hell that will descend upon them if they find a gun and ever touch it without getting a parent or another adult.

Best example I have it works occured two years ago. Christmas night I went to visit friends. My jammie clad kids accompanied me for before bedtime dessert. As I was sitting in the house bs'ing the kids tore through the place playing with Xmas toys. After a bit my son, close to 5 at the time, starts grabbing me "Daddy come" and I didnt want to, so I tell him 'later Odin'. He is insistent than whispers in my ear "somethings dangerous". So I went and he brought me to a room and pointed to a toy MP5 sitting on the toy pile of the older boy that lives in the house. It was a throwback toy gun from a time when manufacturers sought realism. It threw my son because his impression of "toy guns" are bright colored nerf shooters. So he got an atta boy for that one.

Ill be buying a Red Ryder this month for his March Bday. Next year my daughter will get the pink stocked version. Im hoping this makes my kids more responsible and safer as opposed to how some would think they are now more dangerous. Still the safe is good insurance for battling peer pressure or preventing those stupid growing up mistakes that csant ever be taken back.
 
I was raised in a house where firearms were readily accessible and I was taught safety. I am raising my kids with firearms saftety. My greatest concern is the children of my friends, family (in-laws), and neighbors. Many of those kids belong to parents I wouldn't trust with a firearm. I try to minimize how often they visit my home with their undisciplined whelps but my wife lets them run free like fucking savages. In this day and age, it's easier for everyone to demonize firearms than to raise their children.
 
Santa Cruz has everything you need. Call them and tell them what you want. You can set the SC kit up so that you can keep a mag inserted in the rifle but position the locking cuff behind the charging handle so that it cannot be charged until unlocked and removed like this: SC-917-MR Adjustable Wall/Trunk Rifle Rack - Santa Cruz Gunlocks

If you add the remote button, you need to wire a dc power supply to activate the solenoid.

This is exactly what I have. It is vertical in the closet. Clamped right behind the charging handle.
 
Guns are more likely to be locked and loaded, stored for ready use and kids will be less aware of the danger from never being exposed to firearms.

This is why I keep my "ready to use firearm" on my hip or otherwise carried on my person. What better place to have a weapon when you need it but on your body. It's never made sense to me when people keep their "ready weapon" in the nightstand drawer, or between couch cushions, never carrying them. I've had a state issued Carry Permit since the 60's. Back then they were merely typed out "Permission Letters" issued by the Police Chief or Sheriff. Since then I've kept a firearm on my person with the exception of the time "Uncle Sam" issued them to me and when Fed/State law prohibited me from carrying one on certain premises.