McMillan A5 woes...

[hyena74]

I picked up my GA Precision Crusader today...makes me so glad I sold my TRG 22. This rifle is one solid package and I cant wait to shoot it.

Anyway, I wanted the KMW Loggerhead adjustable cheek piece on it, but I found this one, it didnt have it, and I wouldnt have to wait, so I bought it.

I'm putting a Nightforce mil-spec F1 on it (50mm obj). The gun came with Badger med rings.

I put the rings on, and they seem to sit somewhere about 1/4 to 1/2 inches to high for my cheek weld.

I was gonna order some Badger low rings...but they are just barely lower, so I'm not sure they would help. Plus I'm not sure my scope would clear with the low rings.

So, I put on my stock pack and they helped a lot, but it covers up the flush cups where I wouldnt be able to use the sling, so that wont work.

Ive read where you cant retrofit the KMW cheek set up, unless the stock came set up for an adjustable cheek, so thats out.

So, here is about the only option short of using duct tape and foam...

Can one of the above adjustable cheek pieces be retrofitted on my stock, and if so, are they a solid piece? I dont see them used a whole lot as compared to the other style of adjustables.

 

[calling4life]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

Holy shit no

Contact Stockdoc on here, he will take care of you, he installed the kmw loggerhead on my A5.

BOOM, thank me later

 

[ogonzalez13]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

Not sure I undertand your post. Does your A5 have any type of Cheekpiece adjustment?

If it does not, there is a hide member who goes by the name stock doc that can cut and fit a KMW style cheek piece into your stock.

 

[hyena74]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ogonzalez13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not sure I undertand your post. Does your A5 have any type of Cheekpiece adjustment?

If it does not, there is a hide member who goes by the name stock doc that can cut and fit a KMW style cheek piece into your stock. </div></div>

sorry for being confusing...

here is what im working with:

 

[hyena74]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: calling4life</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Holy shit no

Contact Stockdoc on here, he will take care of you, he installed the kmw loggerhead on my A5.

BOOM, thank me later </div></div>

one other thing about this stock...it has the molded in camo color. if i had it chopped and sawed on, would i be forced to have it painted?

 

[SigsauerP229]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

I had an A4 adjustable saddle cheek piece like you pictured. I wasn't happy with it as with my fat face it pushed me away from the scope.

I asked McMillan if it could be changed to an integral adjustable cheek piece and they said no.

I'm not familair with the Stockdoc, perhaps he could have fixed my issue.

I'd try to see what he can do otherwise I'd consider selling it and getting a stock with an intergral adjustable cheek piece.

 

[ogonzalez13]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

Contact stockdoc by pm and ask him. I don't think you will need to repaint, he does a great job. Use the search function at the middle right column and type stockdoc.

 

[Sgt.Henry]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

.823 Rings Badger rings will work, If you toss the cheeck piece, can you manipulate the straps on the Stock pack to access your flush cups?
Mine works fine like that

 

[hyena74]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt Henry</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> .823 Rings Badger rings will work, If you toss the cheeck piece, can you manipulate the straps on the Stock pack to access your flush cups?
Mine works fine like that

</div></div>

i just looked at the height difference between the badger lows and mediums and its only about 1/16 of an inch. i know every little bit helps, but i dont know if the hassle would be worth it.

the seekins lows are even three thousandths of an inch lower than the badger lows

what stock pack do you have...i think mine is an eagle. i just got to play with it for about 15 mins yesterday evening before i had to go to work. ill mess around a little with the straps tomorrow.

thanks

 

[Sgt.Henry]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

I got both my stock packs and one of the Tab slings from Steve at Triad Tactical (good 2 go)
I use the bottom flush cup at the rear of the stock because the thick tail of Tab sling can be used "sorta" like a rear bag in a pinch, and I usually lose my rear bag running to the next fire position anyway.
but anyway, The straps on the stock pack can be moved around by velcro, I'm pretty sure the Eagle is similar, (Somebody can correct me but I think Steve had some stuff made by eagle at one time.)
I never really use the Logerhead conversion on my gladius, I have it cranked down flush as tight as it can go and covered up with another stock pack.

After all that if you aren't happy, I sometimes us a piece of Moleskin to stick to the cheek portion of the stock pack. Mainly just so it doesn't pull on my Tactical Beard.

Also, if you try the Low Badgers or the Seekins and don't like them I'm pretty sure somebody on the hide will give you your money back for them.
(just my 2 cents)

 

[MitchK]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

Stockdoc can fix you up. Here's a pic of my A2. Molded in colors just like your A5. I couldn't be happier with his work.

 

[Gray]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

Stockdoc!!

 

[hyena74]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

sounds like stock doc it is.

what kind of turn around time are we looking at cause it might have to wait till after hunting season.

 

[SWRichmond]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

AICS

 

[hyena74]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWRichmond</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AICS </div></div>

i had one and hated it

 

[9sigman45]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt Henry</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> .823 Rings Badger rings will work, If you toss the cheeck piece, can you manipulate the straps on the Stock pack to access your flush cups?
Mine works fine like that

</div></div>


I miss my Crusader.

 

[Gray]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hyena74</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sounds like stock doc it is.

what kind of turn around time are we looking at cause it might have to wait till after hunting season. </div></div>

Usually a week, but PM him on here to find out for sure.

 

[calling4life]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

Jesus Yes, stockdoc, week sounds about right, if you need it by a certain date, ask him if he can have it done, he'll answer.

It comes back to you looking like McMillan did it, you can even have him put a notch in the cheekpiece for bolt removal, if you wish, I didn't.

Professional, there's a reason he's recommended.

 

[gstaylorg]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

Hyena,

Here's what I did with my Crusader and I've been very happy with it. I have a NF 8-32x56 mounted on it with Badger High Alloy rings (1.125") and, like you, it was a little too high. So I purchased a Triad stock cover (http://www.triadtactical.com/Triad-Stock-Pack.html) and put two ~1.5" wide strips of mouse pad under it. It was very easy to adjust the straps to accommodate the added height. Now the height is perfect it's rock solid on top of the A5 buttstock.

 

[Sonic Crack]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

I used a gasket cutter to punch a nice round hole in my stock pack to get to the flush cup

 

[bward]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

Just put your sling in the flush cup and put the stock pack over it. Thats what I do on my KMW stock and it has worked fine in many matches.

 

[atxsniper]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

+1 on triads stock pack. I have one on my A5 because my nightforce with 56mm obj was too high. I added some strips of velcro until it was just right. Its rock solid and comfy too!

 

[hyena74]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

i manipulated my stock pack and got it to work...but it is still to low...i must have screwed up facial proportions, lol.

 

[hyena74]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: calling4life</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jesus Yes, stockdoc, week sounds about right, if you need it by a certain date, ask him if he can have it done, he'll answer.

It comes back to you looking like McMillan did it, you can even have him put a notch in the cheekpiece for bolt removal, if you wish, I didn't.

Professional, there's a reason he's recommended.

</div></div>

i messaged him yesterday morning, but havent heard anything back yet. i got a seekins atlas rail on the way ill have him put on too...i wanna see what all the atlas fuss is about.

 

[stockdoc]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

hyena, sorry for the slow response. was out of town this weekend for daughter's softball tournament but I'm back. I answered your pm and provided you with cell # as well. call me

 

[terrygood]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

I think seekins has a lower base available. He sold me one a few years back that brought my NF with 50 obj to the barrel. In fact I have to use med seekins rings on it. I like the feel of non adjustable some times. The base I am talking about is much lower than the stock one you get from Gap. Call seekins and tell them what you want and see if he still makes them? Murphy can also make you a base that has 0 moa similar to the old Mark 4. Eliminate the pic rail where the bolts go through and you can get the scopes eye piece to sit very low for prone shooting. Look at these options before you cut your stock.

 

[hyena74]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

Thanks Joe. I just got an email from swfa that my Seekins sling rail is on backorder...so I may have to have you get me something. I'll call you tomorrow.

Rob

 

[hyena74]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: terryg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think seekins has a lower base available. He sold me one a few years back that brought my NF with 50 obj to the barrel. In fact I have to use med seekins rings on it. I like the feel of non adjustable some times. The base I am talking about is much lower than the stock one you get from Gap. Call seekins and tell them what you want and see if he still makes them? Murphy can also make you a base that has 0 moa similar to the old Mark 4. Eliminate the pic rail where the bolts go through and you can get the scopes eye piece to sit very low for prone shooting. Look at these options before you cut your stock. </div></div>

The barrel is a number seven contour..and with the badger med rings..there isn't a whole lot of room. With low rings, you would be very close to the barrel. If you went with a lower base, it would not clear.

I don't think a zero moa would work out that well with a 308 at long ranges.

 

[hamstur]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

Add some padding to the stock pack to raise it. Some people use pieces of cut mouse pad, I take old tube socks and cut off the tube--find whatever works. Sgt Henry said it right to use the bottom flush cup for your sling. Personally, I even use packs on all my adjustable stocks cause they're just comfy to me. These DIY mods will cost you zero $$$.

 

[terrygood]

Re: McMillan A5 woes...

I have a seekins base and medium rings on my Crusader with a NF. It just clears the barrel. The only way to get my eye piece lower is a custom from Murphy's with 0 moa. I have been down the road you are going.