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Maggie’s Military Jeopardy
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That was a POS the pin gun was much better, real easy to use an hide in plain sight.
Actually, I think Frank Hamer used a .351 Winchester SLR to kill Bonnie and Clyde... but there were also BAR's involved. And Clyde Barrow loved BAR's!
The Potato digger was the Colt 1895, but someone beat me to it.
Why did they need those in 1960??? Because the idea was to distribute thousands of them behind the lines if the Soviets ever took Europe. The weapons caches were hidden all over the place as part of the SF mission to stay behind and wreak havoc. They were for nothing more than a contact hit that would let you take a better weapon.
They were pretty much designed for one shot.
There was also the Vietnam version of the Liberator. Anyone know what it is called for $500?
Cheers,
Sirhr
The Potato digger was the Colt 1895, but someone beat me to it.
Why did they need those in 1960??? Because the idea was to distribute thousands of them behind the lines if the Soviets ever took Europe. The weapons caches were hidden all over the place as part of the SF mission to stay behind and wreak havoc. They were for nothing more than a contact hit that would let you take a better weapon.
They were pretty much designed for one shot.
There was also the Vietnam version of the Liberator. Anyone know what it is called for $500?
Cheers,
Sirhr
Pretty sure that came from the length of the three belts of ammo in a case. When asking how much of the ammo was needed, the response was "just get me the whole nine yards". Or something to that effect...
BAR is correct. did we really expect Russia to take Europe? I shook hands with Kennedy in 1960 while he was campaigning in my hometown.....I was 7.
Well, we expected it enough to keep divisions of troops watching the Fulda Gap until the 1990's.... So, yeah. I think we did.
Honestly, I think our fears were not justified. The USSR was as afraid of us as we were of them. The likelihood of their launching a war into Europe was remote. They were more interested in NOT losing another 100 million people... which is what happened to them in the first half of the century.... wars, famine, Stalin.... But, again, we didn't know that... not for sure.
I've been meaning to re-read Tom Clancy's masterpiece scenario novel "Red Storm Rising." In 1985 or so when it was published... it was a very real scenario.
Cheers,
Sirhr
Honestly, I think our fears were not justified. The USSR was as afraid of us as we were of them. The likelihood of their launching a war into Europe was remote. They were more interested in NOT losing another 100 million people... which is what happened to them in the first half of the century.... wars, famine, Stalin.... But, again, we didn't know that... not for sure.
I've been meaning to re-read Tom Clancy's masterpiece scenario novel "Red Storm Rising." In 1985 or so when it was published... it was a very real scenario.
Cheers,
Sirhr
pretty sure it's entirely bullshit and has never been done.
There has never been a procedure for removing the canton and separating the stripes before destroying the flag. The idea that a base being over-run would have the lone survivor, somehow retrieving a .45 round from the top of a flag pole, then digging up the pistol to kill himself, all the while, ensuring the flag has been destroyed in some fashion that has never before been actually dictated... is somewhat akin to topping off your blinker fluid. It's foolish BS.
If you've never seen the Bonnie and Clyde Ford V8 car.... here is one picture. From back when Law Enforcement went to the bar and celebrated after taking down a dirtbag... instead of getting put on leave, grilled mercilessly, sued, charged, accused of being a bad boy and run out of town...
Frank Hamer was a tough, tough hombre. Texas Ranger back before the term went all "Chuck Norris." His hunt started with the assumption that "You know you are in the right... so put 'em on the spot and kill everyone in sight." Mission accomplished!
Cheers,
Sirhr
And in accordance with Downtown's wishes for a new question. This one is related to the above picture:
Can anyone tell me what is The Bryce Effect.
Cheers,
Sirhr
Can anyone tell me what is The Bryce Effect.
Cheers,
Sirhr
I'm pretty sure it's bullshit too and said as much, actually I'm positive, but hey, turns out the keys to the impact area actually exist --I signed them out at Range Control. It's still a legend and worthy of the game.
Should be the "Hamer Effect". He sure as shit had it too I understand. Anyway, the bad guys just surrendered if J. Bryce showed up and that was the "effect" he had.
But Hamer was already famous when he took down Bonnie and Clyde and was the type to go into a gunfight unarmed and walk away with the other two guys shot and a new pistol. Heard he had near constant threats on his life until it got to be too dangerous to try.
This old technology that you all probably know how to use (some quite well) was developed as a cutting edge military tool a long, long time ago. It allows pre-planning and preparation of a fight, allocation of resources, more precise metrics and measurements, etc. It also has broad civilian uses too. What is it? And who designed it and for whom did he design it?
This should be a good one.
This should be a good one.
There was a group of lawmen known as "Hoovers Assassins..." Mostly out of K.C. and Oklohoma City LE, recruited by the FBI. When Hoover wanted to send a message, that's who he sent. They were not generally there to arrest anyone. Different times...
Cheers,
Sirhr
Maybe a pocket calculator or slide ruler? Next guess would be a watch/chronograph...
Still got a slide ruler somewhere around the house (figured it might be useful if we ever lose all electronics due to an EMP or some other catastrophe)...
Still got a slide ruler somewhere around the house (figured it might be useful if we ever lose all electronics due to an EMP or some other catastrophe)...
What is a 973 Snow Carrier used by 10th Mountain. I think they have them at Carson, too.
Easier to recognize when they do their training right in and through in your back yard in GMNF.
Cheers,
Sirhr
Easier to recognize when they do their training right in and through in your back yard in GMNF.
Cheers,
Sirhr
OK Alex, off your ass and on your feet. I'll take grunt jargon in RVN for $100 for each correct answer. Saddle up.
You just got lifted out of a hot PZ and are back to the nest and going to go report to Fast Flanker 6.
Upon entering the TOC you hear that the NVA is jamming all pushes so the commo NCOIC tells everyone to go to Jack Benny. where they find clear air.
Deadly Raider calls in to S-4 that Raider 1-6 needs an Asskicker on the next ash and trash as his was hit in the last action.
Raider 1-6 India asks for 2 elephant rubbers to stow his shit in and is told that is not a problem they will be in the next kickout of blue in penny nickle nickle containers.
Everyone needs ammo and all are wondering why Redleg is so slow but understand they may not be first. Are Snakes in the air? and do we have olives?
Foul Mike E Co. 5/7 Cav. 1st Cav Div.
You just got lifted out of a hot PZ and are back to the nest and going to go report to Fast Flanker 6.
Upon entering the TOC you hear that the NVA is jamming all pushes so the commo NCOIC tells everyone to go to Jack Benny. where they find clear air.
Deadly Raider calls in to S-4 that Raider 1-6 needs an Asskicker on the next ash and trash as his was hit in the last action.
Raider 1-6 India asks for 2 elephant rubbers to stow his shit in and is told that is not a problem they will be in the next kickout of blue in penny nickle nickle containers.
Everyone needs ammo and all are wondering why Redleg is so slow but understand they may not be first. Are Snakes in the air? and do we have olives?
Foul Mike E Co. 5/7 Cav. 1st Cav Div.
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For those not as versed in RVN jargon... here's a fun one. Witness to history for $500.
Who was Mr. Nibbles and what military event did he witness?
Cheers,
Sirhr
Who was Mr. Nibbles and what military event did he witness?
Cheers,
Sirhr
Some cartoon figure? as to what he saw, I haven't a clue. FM
Apparently I am the only OLD RVN grunt on here.
Apparently I am the only OLD RVN grunt on here.
I did get Tactical Operations Center, Noncomissioned Officer in Charge, North Vietnamese Army, Republic of Vietnam, Saddle Up (get your shit together), Ash and Trash = Supply mission/choppers in/out of the FOB, Redlegs are artillery... and after that I kind of lost it.... But great ability to string together the terms, FM!
And, no, was 10 at the time. But as a military historian of sorts... I read a lot.
Cheers,
Sirhr
Mr Nibbles... was in a kids school in London.
Sihr, I hope you are still on the bike and having fun.
As to the bin of shit I posted; We were in a small, filthy, violent place and I stress filthy. There were Viets around , both tame and wild and you never knew whom to trust so thought the worst of everyone of them.
We used slang to talk to each other in case your conversation was overheard. Much of that slang came back with us and was common during the late 70s in CB trucker talk.
Hot PZ- a hot, bullets flying pickup zone to extract squads that were compromised.
Nest- An LZ that was large enough to be fairly secure and had revetments to park the helicopters.
Fast Flanker 6, The Battalion commander, the Big Dog that you report to.
TOC Tactical Operations Center-The big bunker where Flanker 6 resided, very secure and he did not venture far from there but knew all about how you should be conducting your patrols.
push- radio frequency for Prick 25s and 77s
Jack Benny-radio push at 39;00 The gooks didn't know how old Jack was. Sometimes it was Jack Benny with a buck in his pocket or a couple of dimes 40:00 or 39:20 etc. That usually cleared the air.
Deadly Raider- Our company call sign on the radio
S-4- Supply, the guys you relied on, God Bless their souls.
Raider 1-6- Platoon leader, squads were Raider 1-1, 1-2 etc and the mortars were all 4-6 with each gun having it's own number. We really liked 3-6 as they were the old short timers that would adjust for you to danger close.
Asskicker- Fanny pack that went on your web gear.
ash&trash- A regular re-supply out in the field by the Log bird when things were cool.
Raider 1-6 India- RTO for 1-6
elephant rubbers- liners for putting fresh water in, made of rubber and put into a 155mm howitzer powder shipping containers filled with blue[water] waterproof unless they burst on impact. Used for kickouts
Kickout- "You assholes are staying in the field so we will kick out your rations and water as we fly by so duck when we come over and prepare to search for said items."
penny nickle nickle- refers to 155mm howitzers or their powder containers that were air tight. Used to drop things in to you.
Dime nickles were the 105 batteries that supported us and were usually the first to come up when you really needed them.
Snakes- Cobra gunships that provided much needed air support and we LOVED all of them when they were accurate. They were usually in the air close to you and would come and shoot on a moments notice as long as we popped smoke to identify ourselves.
Olives- 81mm mortars that were organic to the Battalion. Fast to come up when we needed them. They were our friends and buddies when we were on the LZ where they were.
If you are still in EU and get to Germany, go to any gasthouse and ask for Kase&brot. Cheap snack and each house has their own.
Regards, FM
As to the bin of shit I posted; We were in a small, filthy, violent place and I stress filthy. There were Viets around , both tame and wild and you never knew whom to trust so thought the worst of everyone of them.
We used slang to talk to each other in case your conversation was overheard. Much of that slang came back with us and was common during the late 70s in CB trucker talk.
Hot PZ- a hot, bullets flying pickup zone to extract squads that were compromised.
Nest- An LZ that was large enough to be fairly secure and had revetments to park the helicopters.
Fast Flanker 6, The Battalion commander, the Big Dog that you report to.
TOC Tactical Operations Center-The big bunker where Flanker 6 resided, very secure and he did not venture far from there but knew all about how you should be conducting your patrols.
push- radio frequency for Prick 25s and 77s
Jack Benny-radio push at 39;00 The gooks didn't know how old Jack was. Sometimes it was Jack Benny with a buck in his pocket or a couple of dimes 40:00 or 39:20 etc. That usually cleared the air.
Deadly Raider- Our company call sign on the radio
S-4- Supply, the guys you relied on, God Bless their souls.
Raider 1-6- Platoon leader, squads were Raider 1-1, 1-2 etc and the mortars were all 4-6 with each gun having it's own number. We really liked 3-6 as they were the old short timers that would adjust for you to danger close.
Asskicker- Fanny pack that went on your web gear.
ash&trash- A regular re-supply out in the field by the Log bird when things were cool.
Raider 1-6 India- RTO for 1-6
elephant rubbers- liners for putting fresh water in, made of rubber and put into a 155mm howitzer powder shipping containers filled with blue[water] waterproof unless they burst on impact. Used for kickouts
Kickout- "You assholes are staying in the field so we will kick out your rations and water as we fly by so duck when we come over and prepare to search for said items."
penny nickle nickle- refers to 155mm howitzers or their powder containers that were air tight. Used to drop things in to you.
Dime nickles were the 105 batteries that supported us and were usually the first to come up when you really needed them.
Snakes- Cobra gunships that provided much needed air support and we LOVED all of them when they were accurate. They were usually in the air close to you and would come and shoot on a moments notice as long as we popped smoke to identify ourselves.
Olives- 81mm mortars that were organic to the Battalion. Fast to come up when we needed them. They were our friends and buddies when we were on the LZ where they were.
If you are still in EU and get to Germany, go to any gasthouse and ask for Kase&brot. Cheap snack and each house has their own.
Regards, FM
Ok... too arcane....
Mr, Nibbles was the Gerbil at the Montessori School on Prince's Gate, London on April 30, 1980. On that day, terrorists seized the Iranian Embassy, and the event culminated 6 days later in the takedown by the SAS.
When the 'Met and the SAS set up zulu headquarters for the Iranian Embassy takedown, they were allowed to use the school on one condition: That they fed and watered Mr. Nibbles, the student's pet gerbil. Who had a ringside seat to the Embassy surveillance, takedown planning and the actual storming of the embassy by the 22nd. An 'Met officer was assigned to the task and for the next 6 days, he (among other duties) made sure the gerbil was properly fed, watered and cared-for.
Unlike seemingly everyone else involved in the embassy takedown, after the event, Mr. Nibbles did not do any books, documentaries or interviews. Secret Squirrel indeed!
Cheers,
Sirhr
Mr, Nibbles was the Gerbil at the Montessori School on Prince's Gate, London on April 30, 1980. On that day, terrorists seized the Iranian Embassy, and the event culminated 6 days later in the takedown by the SAS.
When the 'Met and the SAS set up zulu headquarters for the Iranian Embassy takedown, they were allowed to use the school on one condition: That they fed and watered Mr. Nibbles, the student's pet gerbil. Who had a ringside seat to the Embassy surveillance, takedown planning and the actual storming of the embassy by the 22nd. An 'Met officer was assigned to the task and for the next 6 days, he (among other duties) made sure the gerbil was properly fed, watered and cared-for.
Unlike seemingly everyone else involved in the embassy takedown, after the event, Mr. Nibbles did not do any books, documentaries or interviews. Secret Squirrel indeed!
Cheers,
Sirhr
The phrase "just keep calling Lieutenant, we'll find you..." Is typically a response to what?
Cheers, Sirhr
Cheers, Sirhr
Back last week. In CONUS since Wed last week. Went to McDonalds and Burger King for a Cleanse!
Cheers,
Sirhr
You just won 50 cents.
Many times they were "paved" with cut bamboo in muddy areas or difficult terrain. Right off of Uncle Ho's trail.
The ball is in your court. FM
Many times they were "paved" with cut bamboo in muddy areas or difficult terrain. Right off of Uncle Ho's trail.
The ball is in your court. FM
Didn't think that would be so tough....
What is "A loud fart,occurring when on patrol"
Cheers,
Sirhr
Not to mention "road signs" and bamboo and assorted other greenery pulled over as living aerial camo., bridges,bicycle repair stations, rest areas, and the not to be forgotten AA emplacements.
Cav has been, You hit that one out of the park.
New question Alex, for 25 cents
What was the SOI and it's funny papers?
RTOs know this one as well as many others.
New question Alex, for 25 cents
What was the SOI and it's funny papers?
RTOs know this one as well as many others.
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