Yes still looking kind of come to realization that a exact is not necessary but somewhat close.
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Yes still looking kind of come to realization that a exact is not necessary but somewhat close.
Not really a Mk12 then is it
Not really a Mk12 then is it
It's just a AR with a PRI rail....
It's a nice rifle tho.
And you can have the Ops Inc/AEM5 can bored out to 6mm. There are several people who have done it.
Yes, the AE can and barrel setup is the heart of the mk12Does the can make it or break it for you?
I believe the OCM5 is 6mm standard and the guys making the AEM5 now offer it in both .223 bore as well as 6mm bore with a lead time.And you can have the Ops Inc/AEM5 can bored out to 6mm. There are several people who have done it.
This.Not really a Mk12 then is it
Looks great!Finally got mine done. Ordered the KMW pod loc this morning. Decided to go with the 3.6-18 like @5RWill did. After I shoot it I will finish up the Krylon
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Within the constraints of an AR mag no new cartridge will be in a vastly different league than the last. Improvements are pretty incremental. I've tried most of the longer range capable cartridges that fit in a AR and I'm still back at 5.56 most of the time. I've got a 6mm Grendel and the performance is better, but not incredibly so. If I was guessing, any long range shot I miss with a 5.56 there's at least a 90% chance I'll miss it with the 6mm. So the onus is still on me, the cartridge increases my odds very little.Speaking of 6Arc mentioned above. While the energy on target is certainly greater I was pretty surprised by one of members head to head with 14.5" 5.56 vs 6arc. It's not nearly as unevenly matched as you'd think it would be.
This.
Looks great!
Speaking of 6Arc mentioned above. While the energy on target is certainly greater I was pretty surprised by one of members head to head with 14.5" 5.56 vs 6arc. It's not nearly as unevenly matched as you'd think it would be.
A good friend of mine was going to do a Mod H in 6arc with a bored out AEM5 or OCM5. He did recently pick up an OCM5. But when we got to thinking about it he basically said "until I can reliably pick up 6arc locally it's not a replacement." I'm getting that way the older I get. Don't get me wrong I have niche wildcats like my 7 Sherman Short, but I've long sold off the 6.5 grendel and 300blk I had cause ammo just isn't that readily available for similar price. And it's somehwat predisposed to gassers because I tend to lose brass and shoot more volume with them. But if one were to build say a 6arc in a bolt rifle it doesn't make any sense to me.
Meanwhile I'm still loading but as of late even in this climate I've found 300PRC for $1.72 a round (Hornady 225gr), 308 match (norma 175gr) for $1.56 a round, and 77gr OTM at .65c a round through AAC. Hell I'm going to probably pick up 100rds of 70gr TSX AAC stuff for the MK12 for deer season just to use it to take some doe.
In practice, I’ve pretty much relegated 5.56 to CQM-300yds, occasionally 400-500yds just for giggles.Within the constraints of an AR mag no new cartridge will be in a vastly different league than the last. Improvements are pretty incremental. I've tried most of the longer range capable cartridges that fit in a AR and I'm still back at 5.56 most of the time. I've got a 6mm Grendel and the performance is better, but not incredibly so. If I was guessing, any long range shot I miss with a 5.56 there's at least a 90% chance I'll miss it with the 6mm. So the onus is still on me, the cartridge increases my odds very little.
I think I commented something to that effect on your 5.56 vs. 308 video before I watched it, but in fewer words.
Yeah I edited my post above to mention that hit signature is greatly increased as you step up to 6mm and then 6.5mm.In practice, I’ve pretty much relegated 5.56 to CQM-300yds, occasionally 400-500yds just for giggles.
I noticed that as well between 5.56 and 6mm AR, although 6mm AR will genuinely reach out with good hit probability at distance and not suffer as much wind drift. The impacts aren’t like a .308, which is what I want, but without the large frame, recoil, muzzle blast, big mags, loss of sight picture, etc.
If someone could make a 195gr 7mm EOL exit at 2850fps and recoil like a .223 Rem 40gr, I’d be all over that. I also want Marylin Monroe to come back as a virgin without her Hollywood mental issues.
I was actually thinking the same thing yesterday. Wonder if somebody is going to make the proper profiled barrelThis might be blasphemy but I’m seriously considering moving my mk12 mod H to a 22arc. Would really differentiate it from the 14.5” give it a leg up on medium game too.
Wonder if you could take a reamer to the 223 barrel? Idk how that would work with the extension and feed ramps but if it’s possible. I mean mk12 slinging 88gr ELD at 2800 is an entirely different animal and makes so much sense in my head to keep it separate from my 14.5” with an LVPO.I was actually thinking the same thing yesterday. Wonder if somebody is going to make the proper profiled barrel
Nice heads up, got oneHeads up for anyone planning on or interested in the Mk12 Mod H: https://supdef.com/noveske-mk12-mod-h-barrel-16/ Noveske originally made the contract barrels and this is a limited run of 100 made to that print. It is the only "clone correct" barrel for the build.
I really didnt have good luck with AAC ammo out of my Mod H. I tried their 69 grain, 75 and 77 grain, best group I got was with the 77 grain. Going to try some Gorilla 77 grain next and then I will do a load development.Wonder if you could take a reamer to the 223 barrel? Idk how that would work with the extension and feed ramps but if it’s possible. I mean mk12 slinging 88gr ELD at 2800 is an entirely different animal and makes so much sense in my head to keep it separate from my 14.5” with an LVPO.
However ammo availability will be the issue. But if aac makes ammo for it at reasonable price and their QC improves it would be awesome.
22ARC shoulder is further back, so you'd have to set the barrel back to get the reamer into fresh steel. In an AR that means re timing the barrel extension to the gas port while keeping heaspace in mind. Technically doable, but good luck finding a smith that wants to.Wonder if you could take a reamer to the 223 barrel? Idk how that would work with the extension and feed ramps but if it’s possible.
Thought it might be a lot of work. Might have to just piece together another mod H upper. Doubt i could sell my barrel22ARC shoulder is further back, so you'd have to set the barrel back to get the reamer into fresh steel. In an AR that means re timing the barrel extension to the gas port while keeping heaspace in mind. Technically doable, but good luck finding a smith that wants to.
Beautiful:Heads up for anyone planning on or interested in the Mk12 Mod H: https://supdef.com/noveske-mk12-mod-h-barrel-16/ Noveske originally made the contract barrels and this is a limited run of 100 made to that print. It is the only "clone correct" barrel for the build.
Rattle Can is best Can for my now complete Mod 0 now that I have a correct Loopy Mk4 on there.
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This highlights one of the most important things about the SPRs that some of the original 1992-1994 JSOC Sniper Carbines had to use SIMRADs to achieve due to the presence of the Front Sight Base.View attachment 8260418
Mod H. Got rid of the RAID-Xe, I've been through several dozen of lasers and always go back to ol' faithful LA-5B or an NGAL. OCM5 still waiting in jail.
Using this with the CNVD-LR is a bit of meme, need to be at 8X to really make use of it and at that point, it's what the SR25 is for in a way with a 4-20 ATACR.
(Also put this same pic on reddit and got one particular poor very upset in my messages about it, apparently spending too much money is bad)
One could almost argue cloners don't think about the emphasis on overall usage, either lol.Most cloners don’t think about the emphasis on how the units using these things prefer to work at night.
Yeah man. I love my rifle setup. I first saw it in 2005 in Hiit, Iraq. One of the ODA guys on a team was cleaning his weapons at this FOB we were at. He had a Mk12 Mod 0 pretty close to my clone. That was my first "damn, nice looking rifle" I saw in the military. I was conventional forces so and the USMC units I was with didn't have DMR's. Only STA platoons had the M40's and other goodies.I think once cloners commit to a can, they pretty much have to get out and shoot it.
Same with optics. You can buy the legacy initial Leupold optics for those prices, but somewhere along the way you’re going to want to get out and do some blasting.
Are you able to stay in the scope with .308 if you turn down magnification? That’s why I don’t shoot the .308s much anymore, even though I have them.
I love the AR-15 receiver set. I love the sound of .308 on-target. I don’t like .308 weight, torque, and loss of sight picture.
Rattle Can is best Can for my now complete Mod 0 now that I have a correct Loopy Mk4 on there.
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It's amazing how just one part can improve the ergonomics. @TheGerman was kind of surprised I could hit a 50-60% IPSC at 650-730y. Good times.That Ergo grip is the best grip too
It's amazing how just one part can improve the ergonomics. @TheGerman was kind of surprised I could hit a 50-60% IPSC at 650-730y. Good times.
This! But I’m curious if the AEM5 or OCM5 will work with it though, enough room after the gas block.This might be blasphemy but I’m seriously considering moving my mk12 mod H to a 22arc. Would really differentiate it from the 14.5” give it a leg up on medium game too.
Is that a Leupold elevation dial or a Kenton custom BDC dial?
Is that a Leupold elevation dial or a Kenton custom BDC dial?
Could you share what rail is on the rifle in the top pic? That is a very nice looking setup.SIMRAD was an objective-aligned, prism-based Night Vision optic solution that paired with your day optic before the more modern in-line Clip-Ons were a thing.
Not sure. It’s not mine, but another Hide member’s. I just linked some photos showing what the SIMRAD is/was for reference.Could you share what rail is on the rifle in the top pic? That is a very nice looking setup.
Same. Definitely going to ar least do a "mock-12" mod H.I need to get a mk12. everytime I see this thread I get pissed at myself for not having one!