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MOA vs Mil
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By the way members, we are up to 5 pages with limited input by some of our SH regulars. I checked a bit ago, and we had 3 threads on MOA vs MILS or inch vs meters in the last 12 months. So my proposal to limit it to an ongoing thread visited every February is quite serious. We might as well have one thread that contains it all, serious and sarcastic.
National MOA vs MIL Month (February). Brought to you by SH! A one month festival of moa vs mil vs meters vs inches vs SFP vs FFP and all other recurrent threads combined.
National MOA vs MIL Month (February). Brought to you by SH! A one month festival of moa vs mil vs meters vs inches vs SFP vs FFP and all other recurrent threads combined.
You need to add arshins as a unit of measurement to argue about.
You know, gotta be inclusive these days.
You know, gotta be inclusive these days.
How many clicks is an arshin at 600yds and does it come in SFP? If the answer is a weird fraction and “yes”, then I vote it be included as a proper unit of measure for all future SH matters.
So, I've been working on a prototype all afternoon and this is what I have so far. The left scope is a MOA combinator, and the right scope is a Mil combulator, and the sextant up top combines the two into semi-centis and zeroes all the error.
47.4 nautical clicks if north of the equator. 17 faps at 12 degrees if south of the equator.
shutup and take my money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't forget to factor in variation and deviation
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So does the sextant bluetooth to a Kestrel to get exact time (required for longitude)?
My sextant bluetooths the sightings to the kestrel and the kestrel runs the celestial almanac in its engine to spit out a line of position for each sighting
It comes with one of these:
OP has left the chat, last word he was seen in the fetal position with a side rule, a ruler, and mumbling .... But I'm an engineer
Quitters never prosper. Surviving the Hide makes a man of you. I’ve been here a year and grown a third testicle.
But isn’t measuring angles in degrees a little old fashioned? Can’t someone invent something new that essentially measures the same thing but has a cooler new name?
New math (invented in the 60s, which kinda makes it slightly-less-old math...) makes more sense in base-10 units. So let’s replace degrees w milli-circle units, chopping a circle into 1,000 pieces instead of 3.14 or 360 pieces. Micro circles would be 1/1,000th of a milli circle.
I feel a dissertation coming on....
I feel a dissertation coming on....
I know you're joking but seriously, no one uses milliradians to measure anything except some shooters and artillerymen.
Degrees reign supreme in navigation, and one nautical mile equals 1/60 of a degree of latitude which is.........................wait for it.......................a MINUTE OF ANGLE
LOLOLOLOL
I wonder if I could write a grant and get federal extramural funding?....
@308pirate you are my co-PI....
@308pirate you are my co-PI....
The friggin Babylonians screwed us. We’re still dividing crap by 60 because Xerxes said so. Geez.
Here is why I proposed February as “National MOA vs MIL month” here on Snipers Hide. And I did not go back to far, because these were quite informative, and yet never read by anyone who asks about our now favorite topic. As such, I wanted to make sure they are properly enshrined in this thread.
They all start out serious, and then the olive branches get tossed aside and the gloves come off. So mostly the same progression each time. However, through teamwork and hard work, this thread has achieved new heights. You people are awesome.
PS. The Mar 2020 throw down, whose dick is biggest contest, was totally unexpected (and ended pretty well).
Our history, in all it’s glory:
Feb 2021 @chickon1 https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/moa-vs-mil.7060652/
Jan 2021 @TheHorta https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...a-leaked-documents-show.7055099/#post-9214811
Mar 2020 @Painjob38 https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/100-yard-or-100-meters.6995732/#post-8429153
Mar 2020 @BJDelaporte https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/mils-at-100-meters.6994902/. (This one was epic)
Jan 2019 @L2bravo https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/moa-vs-mil.6922029/
They all start out serious, and then the olive branches get tossed aside and the gloves come off. So mostly the same progression each time. However, through teamwork and hard work, this thread has achieved new heights. You people are awesome.
PS. The Mar 2020 throw down, whose dick is biggest contest, was totally unexpected (and ended pretty well).
Our history, in all it’s glory:
Feb 2021 @chickon1 https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/moa-vs-mil.7060652/
Jan 2021 @TheHorta https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...a-leaked-documents-show.7055099/#post-9214811
Mar 2020 @Painjob38 https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/100-yard-or-100-meters.6995732/#post-8429153
Mar 2020 @BJDelaporte https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/mils-at-100-meters.6994902/. (This one was epic)
Jan 2019 @L2bravo https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/moa-vs-mil.6922029/
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You mentioned “new math”. Reminds of the time I tried to use that to explain to my dad why I was flunking Algebra. “It’s new math dad, it’s really hard”
My dad was a college professor with a PhD in physics.
My dad did not suffer fools.........
You can probably imagine his response
“2+2 has always been 4, 2+2 will always be 4, you’re grounded, now go study”
You mentioned “new math”. Reminds of the time I tried to use that to explain to my dad why I was flunking Algebra. “It’s new math dad, it’s really hard”
My dad was a college professor with a PhD in physics.
My dad did not suffer fools.........
You can probably imagine his response
“2+2 has always been 4, 2+2 will always be 4, you’re grounded, now go study”
...I couldn’t find one about a physics professor dad, but you get the point...
Hell yeah.
Jimi didn’t use moa or Mils; the psychedelic feathered angels gave him his dope. So to speak. No pun intended.
That's funny, because I am an engineer too. A network engineer, so I have to design and operate most of the time, It's amazing such a simple concept that so many people are confused about or just repeat what someone else told them.
Engineers typical look at the why behind something, not just throw some shit in a calculator or use a conversion card.
I made the point about I don't really care which one is better or not. That is impossible to make an augment against because it's all relative to the person using it.
Only difference between the two:
Mil is metric, MOA is mostly used with imperial (for shooting) not really associated with metric or imperial.
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Ok, this is going to be somewhat of an inside joke but the guitar playing guys will get it.
Jimi took an MOA guitar and flipped it to MIL
Basically a right handed guitar played left handed.
C’mon @Lapuapalooza and @Not a Sniper help me out here
Jimi took an MOA guitar and flipped it to MIL
Basically a right handed guitar played left handed.
C’mon @Lapuapalooza and @Not a Sniper help me out here
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But do you use Degrees, Minutes, Seconds.... or Degrees, Minutes, Decimal Minutes.... or Decimal Degrees?
Oh good the engineer on the spectrum is back and doubling down. This thread has a chance.
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I get MOA is just MOA.. has nothing to do with feet or inches. It just so happens to line up that way magically to make estimating math easier
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"Reverse Cowgirl" must be on the other side.
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It really isn't coincidental. The ancient calendar was 360 days in a lot of cultures. 360 was a number familiar to all. Therefore common factors of 360 were often used when devising linear measurements.
But the point of my post was to poke fun of the fact that even though degrees and minutes are standard for navigation, you still have 3 different formats to cause confusion.
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