Re: Muzzle threading help
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Johns</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Allowed to leave it overnight?
I can see letting someone do work on a weapon briefly. I don't think a "gunsmithing license" is required anywhere to work on a firearm(I think there should be though).
So not calling a once in a while guy a "gunsmith" is fine. But whats that have to do with legal transfer of firearms?
Seems like a grey area to me. When does "occasionally" turn in to often enough. </div></div>
Let me start by asking for forgiveness because I'm about to say something that doesn't really have to do with this thread, but after reading Keiths post, I really feel I have to.
Keith, you mentioned that there ought to be a law for working on your firearm. I'm assuming it's because you've been required to bend over backwards for the government to do what you chose to do for a living. I feel you because I at one point had to do the same. My issue is in your statement of " there should be a law". I'm against more laws, rules, ect. You are asking for the government to step into your life and dictate how to live by saying these things. Where do you want the line to be drawn? What you/we should be trying to do is rid us of all these fucking rules our government pushes down our throats weather we want them or not.
If you think there is nothing you/we can do to to change things, you've already given up. The government officials are there for us, not them, but they rely on the fact that not enough of us ever get together to complain about issues we don't agree with. I'm strong Republican, and don't apologize for it. I believe in working hard for everything I have, and FUCK government help!!!
I've been in this country since I was 5 years old, came to it with the cloths on my back, with parents that didn't speak the language, and to date have never collected unemployment, or any other kind of benefits from the government, or anyone else for that fact. I made this my country, served it proudly in the military as a little payback for all that I was offered here, and don't want some POS politician to ruin what this country started out to be a long time ago with more FUCKING laws/rules to govern law biding citizens like me, and most of us. So, please, again forgive me, but stop asking for more laws. Before you know it, we will have to ask for permission to fart in our homes. Thank you.
Ozzie Suarez
For less Government </div></div>
I said License actually. And <span style="text-decoration: underline">I absolutely think you should need a license to build(and sell) firearms</span>. Something to prove you know what to do. What a safe gun even is. If you want the license to be quick, cheap, and easy to get then fine. But I think it should exist.
That it is legal for any Joe Blow to chamber a rifle and sell it online seems dangerous to me now. The key thing there being selling it. I don't care if someone wants to build their own and keep it, but selling it is another story. And there's no way to stop it. I've heard/seen people mess something up working on it and decide to sell it. Thats F'd up and how many people have the integrity not to?
I own a jacked up receiver and two bolts that I'll never sell. I could pass em if I wanted to, but I wouldn't do that to anyone.
Bedding stocks or doing bolt knob installs I can see being tolerated if a good reputation is kept. But chambering rifles, installing muzzle brakes and cans, no.
Requiring a license may not seem fair to the guys with enough intelligence to build a rifle with a lathe and no training, but there are lots of things a smart guy could do safely that he isn't allowed to do without a license. Im not saying people need schooling either. On the job training or military gunsmith training I see as being better than college. Apprenticing under a licensed smith for a minimum time period I'd like as long as the "Master" gunsmith assumed at least a slight responsibility for his student.
Some experience to show the new guy can produce something safe. Knows what safe is.
Did you understand what I said to mean <span style="text-decoration: underline">that</span>? Or something else?? I'm the last guy to want more laws. I do think less people should be "gunsmiths" though
The guys that sit at home and worship redjacket and that other TV show for their precise machining techiques....
Did you see em thread the 50cal tenon with a die?
There were guys at home rushing to the hardware store after that. Chucking their new Reamer up in a Milwaukee drill they bought at homedepot.
I bet there are a lot more accidents out there from home chambering or muzzle threading jobs than you hear about.
