Need help remembering AR manufacturer??

[bigjake83]

A friend of mine was asking about who makes the best off the shelf AR's and for the life of me I cannot remember the name of this company. I remember they cost around 2,300 MSRP definitely military grade right up there with KAC and they use Bartlein barrels.?????

And it's not Lonestar, Precision Firearms or GA Precision.

 

[FALex]

At the risk of sounding too obvious, you wouldn't be talking about Noveske, would you? I believe they use Pac-Nor barrels, IIRC.

Other than Noveske, only "off-the-shelf" AR's I can think of, that are considered "upper echelon" would be: JP, Wilson Combat, LMT, Bravo Company, LWRC, PWS, CLE, Seekins, BCM, etc, etc...too many to list, but was thinking of the more obscure brands.

 

[bigjake83]

At the risk of sounding too obvious, you wouldn't be talking about Noveske, would you? I believe they use Pac-Nor barrels, IIRC.

Other than Noveske, only "off-the-shelf" AR's I can think of, that are considered "upper echelon" would be: JP, Wilson Combat, LMT, Bravo Company, LWRC, PWS, CLE, Seekins, BCM, etc, etc...too many to list, but was thinking of the more obscure brands.

No definitely none of them, Lone Star Armory is pretty close to what style of rifle they make.

 

[AHorn]

Not Black Rain was it

 

[bfoosh006]

Just gonna throw some names out... , ,


Compass lake Engineering..... http://www.compasslake.com/
Craddock Precision..... https://craddockprecision.com/
White Oak Armament..... https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/

 

[RyanScott]

LMT uses Rock barrels.

 

[bigjake83]

No sorry none of those companies gentleman they are a renewer company that builds high-end military grade.

 

[lennyo3034]

I think Nemo uses Bartlien blanks?

 

[LeadZeke]

F4 Defense uses Craddock barrels which can be Bartlein blanks. Probably not the answer though.

 

[bnanaphone]

Geissele or Centurion Arms?

 

[DRAM40A1]

MSTN?

 

[TonyTheTiger]

PSA? DelTon? Diamondback?
Or really high end like DPMS?

 

[Constructor]

At the risk of sounding too obvious, you wouldn't be talking about Noveske, would you? I believe they use Pac-Nor barrels, IIRC.

Other than Noveske, only "off-the-shelf" AR's I can think of, that are considered "upper echelon" would be: JP, Wilson Combat, LMT, Bravo Company, LWRC, PWS, CLE, Seekins, BCM, etc, etc...too many to list, but was thinking of the more obscure brands.

CLE may use Bartlein as an option, sure who JP uses. If you have ever borescoped any of the rest you will know they are not near Bartlein quality.

 

[Constructor]

LMT uses Rock barrels.

Rock Creek button barrels not Mike Rock cut rifled barrels.

 

[RyanScott]

Rock Creek button barrels not Mike Rock cut rifled barrels.

That depends on material, caliber and era. Some SS LMT barrels historically were cut rifled, and some (but fewer) still are.

 

[The DFC]

Colt

 

[Kadams1563]

If you think the military is fielding $2300 AR’s you have lost it.

High end military grade doesn’t mean anything. They get whatever cheapest contract they can get.

For high end you get KAC. That’s about it lol.

OH WAIT it must be Daniel Defense since they do MIL-SPEC +

 

[RyanScott]

A number of companies making high end commercial firearms also supply firearms in small quantity to DOD.

 

[Triple D]

Lanxang Tactical? I think they use LW barrels though.

 

[MontanaMan]

Rock Creek button barrels not Mike Rock cut rifled barrels.

There are no more "Mike Rock" barrels; he sold the business & has been out of it for 6-7 years. IIRC.

But Rock Creek still makes both cut & button rifled barrels; according to Paul Craddock, who sells both, the only difference is life., FWIW.

MM

 

[padom]

There are no more "Mike Rock" barrels; he sold the business & has been out of it for 6-7 years. IIRC.

But Rock Creek still makes both cut & button rifled barrels; according to Paul Craddock, who sells both, the only difference is life., FWIW.

MM

Correct, you can get both cut and button Rock Creek barrels. I have a cut Rock Creek in a gun right now purchased in the last year

 

[bfoosh006]

Hodge Defense ?

http://www.hodgedefense.com/

 

[tuckybill]

Les Baer?

 

[bigjake83]

PSA? DelTon? Diamondback?
Or really high end like DPMS?

I had tequila come out my nose when I read your shit.

 

[bigjake83]

Lanxang Tactical? I think they use LW barrels though.

Lanxang are nice but still not it.

 

[Retro-Cow]

Hoping this is a "I'd know it if I heard it" situation. Lancer Systems comes to mind when I hear Bartlein barrels.

 

[AIAW]

You know it to be true!

 

[Triple D]

F&D uses Bartlein

 

[Cotay]

Cobalt Kinetics?

Cobalt Kinetics | High Quality, Precision, Durable Firearms

Cobalt Kinetics combines innovative, patented weapon designs with the highest quality manufacturing to produce durable precision firearms.

www.cobaltkinetics.com

 

[PBWalsh]

To throw more names out there...

Sons of Liberty Gunworks (SOLGW)
Sionics
Centurion
Black Powder Red Earth

 

[Docsherm]

A friend of mine was asking about who makes the best off the shelf AR's and for the life of me I cannot remember the name of this company. I remember they cost around 2,300 MSRP definitely military grade right up there with KAC and they use Bartlein barrels.?????

And it's not Lonestar, Precision Firearms or GA Precision.

What kind of AR is looking for? Precision? And WTF is Military grade?

Sre you looking for a quality no nonsense AR? Look Daniel Defense and move on.

 

[bigjake83]

What kind of AR is looking for? Precision? And WTF is Military grade?

Sre you looking for a quality no nonsense AR? Look Daniel Defense and move on.

It's not for me brother, and what I mean by high end military grade is like KAC.

So far the only two that come Close is lone star armory, and lanxang....who knows maybe they went out of business or changed their name.

 

[Merovingian]

What kind of AR is looking for? Precision? And WTF is Military grade?

Sre you looking for a quality no nonsense AR? Look Daniel Defense and move on.

+1 You want bomb proof DD or BCM. You want precision JP, LB, Noveske.

 

[MontanaMan]

who knows maybe they went out of business or changed their name.

Was it Sabre Defence? They were a gov contractor. And yes, they are (were forced) out of business since around 2013-14....................but I don't recall them using Bartlein barrels, though.

MM

 

[Jsp556]

Rock Creek button barrels not Mike Rock cut rifled barrels.

According to LMT reps, they cut rifle their own stainless steel barrels.

 

[Jsp556]

Monty LeClair owner of Centurion Arms is offering rifles with Bartlein barrels.

 

[Luke]

Throwing out more names:
Radian Weapons
War Sport
Larue

 

[jcam]

what barrels do ADM use?

 

[TonyTheTiger]

what barrels do ADM use?

Criterion.

 

[bigjake83]

Throwing out more names:
Radian Weapons
War Sport
Larue

Winner winner Chicken Dinner!!!

Radian weapons!!..... Thanks Luke

 

[bfoosh006]

Lol... Thank God... I hate when I can't remember things like this... Kind of drives me nuts.

I had a heck of a time remembering Hodge Defense.

And for what its worth, I didn't even know Radian Arms sold Bartlein barreled firearms... off to go look.

 

[Triple D]

Lol... Thank God... I hate when I can't remember things like this... Kind of drives me nuts.

I had a heck of a time remembering Hodge Defense.

And for what its worth, I didn't even know Radian Arms sold Bartlein barreled firearms... off to go look.

Yeah. I didn’t know about them either. I did some searching last night and found some info from 2018 from a Radian representative that stated they used Shilen barrels. Not exactly Bartlein, but still a quality barrel.

 

[MontanaMan]

I've bought a few Radian parts here & there & they seem to be high quality, but i don't know if they have had any govt contracts for the rifle & w/o that, it's a little hard to put them into the "military grade" category with companies like KAC, LMT, FN & Colt, even Geiselle, who all have or have had govt contracts, even if they do use Bartlein barrels...................I could not find any mention that they are using Bartlein barrels on their website, but I might have missed it.

Their rifles seem a little more boutique oriented than "military grade", whatever that means.

MM

 

[bigjake83]

Anyway....mystery solved thanks guys.

 

[FALex]

Radian was the answer? LOL! Shit, I didn't even consider them. They've been around making rifles for like 3 whole months! HAHAHA!!!!

 

[bigjake83]

Radian was the answer? LOL! Shit, I didn't even consider them. They've been around making rifles for like 3 whole months! HAHAHA!!!!

Well now you know not to be my partner when playing Charades!!

 

[lennyo3034]

In all fairness, they were formerly AXTS and they made complete rifles.