Needed Metal Cut for Mount... Update, Mount is Here!

[Tucker301]

A fitting reply on both levels.

 

[2ndamendfan]

There are a lot of things that "they" never do which don't bother me at all.

But you shouldn't say I chickened out of a fight unless you've got evidence.

So now we know something you don't joke about, EVER!

 

[flyer]

I joke all the time and I'll chicken out of fights on occasion, I just like the reporting to be fair.

 

[Veer_G]

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Flyer... a bit of friendly advice...

Chill out, declare some kind of victory and don't take things further. Find another thread to enjoy while you grow a reputation here.

You are now in a thread with a bunch of brothers who have been friends for nearly a decade in one form or another. We'll take care of each other. And anything or anyone that impinges on that... in the smallest way will very, very quickly become a pretty hilarious chain of Interwebs roadkill.

Lots of dynamics on SH. One of them is that people who have taken care of each other for a long time... will keep doing so. In a very ruthless manner.

Have a great day, Welcome to SH.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[Veer_G]

 

[Strykervet]

Stryker... Give me a few days and I'll do it for you. I have 1/4" scrap lying around. And it's too damn hot to go out shooting. And the workshop at Schloss Nitrocellulose is air-conditioned.

No charge. Pass the favor on to someone someday. Though I am partial to good hoppy India Pale Ale's if you happen to have some lying around!

PM me with where to send it when it's done.

Cheers,

Sirhr

Oh man, I so appreciate that! No hurry and I'm positive I can take care of you on the IPA --WA is HUGE on IPA, it's practically the only thing they have at any of the beer aisles. I'll grab several from around here you may not be able to get out there. I can think of a few really good ones right now.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

I should be able to get this done by the end of the week.... send me a PM with shipping address.

Cheers brother!

Sirhr

 

[Strykervet]

I still think the tube is the way to go but you're right, I shouldn't call you a fairy sir-her.

You seem to do some fab work so I expect you're used to some ball busting...

I looked for the tubing already, it was my first idea. Well, channel was. But I couldn't find anything even close, 1.5" was about it IIRC. Maybe some super specialty place may have it, but I couldn't find it.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

I looked for the tubing already, it was my first idea. Well, channel was. But I couldn't find anything even close, 1.5" was about it IIRC. Maybe some super specialty place may have it, but I couldn't find it.

If you are OK with Stainless, I have some 4" square and can mill it out of Stainless.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[Strykervet]

Damn, busted.

 

[Strykervet]

If you are OK with Stainless, I have some 4" square and can mill it out of Stainless.

Cheers,

Sirhr

Yeah, that's fine if it's not too heavy. That'd probably be preferable. That LRF is pretty heavy.

 

[Veer_G]

Damn, busted.

 

[flyer]

I saw 3.5" 1/4 wall aluminum square tube but it was by the 20' stick.

It's out there.

Some times eBay has drop like that.

But if your LRF is as heavy as you say it is, a gimbal like I'm planning would allow it to pivot close to the C.G. and you might be able to flip one of them so they mount top and bottom with the gimbal holding it in between (no box required but maybe an angle for your IR illuminator mount).

 

[2ndamendfan]

I joke all the time and I'll chicken out of fights on occasion, I just like the reporting to be fair.

Jokes are rarely fair to everyone. just saying, you got played a little and fell hook, line and sinker for it.

 

[Strykervet]

I saw 3.5" 1/4 wall aluminum square tube but it was by the 20' stick.

It's out there.

Some times eBay has drop like that.

But if your LRF is as heavy as you say it is, a gimbal like I'm planning would allow it to pivot close to the C.G. and you might be able to flip one of them so they mount top and bottom with the gimbal holding it in between (no box required but maybe an angle for your IR illuminator mount).

It's being made from SS now and I think he'll make it sufficient to support this Mk5. It is a beast. That's why I plan on those support posts too. But it has to be the dimensions it is for everything to work out, for the eyepieces to be more or less lined up, for room to work the power dial, space for a short rail and hopefully it'll balance more or less on that five inch section. The size keeps it compact so it makes for a good field unit, and honestly? It's the best I can do right now, can't swing the Spotter 60 but oh I want one, and the Leupold I was gonna have to save for, well, I got the USO for $1000 less than a used Mk4 and it has the same reticle as two rifles I plan to use it with, which is nice. But there were absolutely no mounts made for it and it's even hard finding a flip cap to fit the OBJ, let alone an ARD. So if I was going to use it like I planned, I was gonna need something like the above. It's a lot better than the "dual camera mount" that is an 8" bar that fits on a tripod head and mounts the two devices side by side, although that was a cheap solution. Didn't allow for a rail either. So this stacked setup will be a lot better.

Now to find a low tripod I can use in the prone. One that won't break the bank, aluminum instead of carbon fiber.

But in a setup like this, I need to know, what head is better? A video head with a handle to adjust, or the ball mount where I have to carefully move it around on the ball? Or one of the pistol grip heads? What works best in the field?

 

[sirhrmechanic]

As a fellow-USO snob... I approve your choice.

My Spotter is a vintage Unertl... and I have an ex-army that has followed me everywhere. But I would love a USO spotter. They've been my go-to guys since the days of DOC76251 "Mu;;ins" here on SH. Another legend here on SH.

I got your back Stryker!

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

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If you are OK with Stainless, I have some 4" square and can mill it out of Stainless.

Cheers,

Sirhr

...masochist...

 

[sirhrmechanic]

.....masochist....

Carbide bit....

I'm making Civil War Cannon Carriages for entertainment and fun... a spotting scope mount is like making things out of Play-Dough!

Follow in Vintage Thread...

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[Strykervet]

Wow man, that's crazy!

I like USO, I have the TPAL models with GAP reticles in 3.2-17x and 5-25x and some tree reticle in a 1-8x MR-8 I believe it's called. Turns out the only scope that really fits my requirements for my Grendel is their B-10 and I could use their new 1-4x or 1-6x too. I don't wanna end up with nothing up USO scopes but it's working out that way it seems. They are tanks and they do work very well. On top of that, they sent me an email telling me I get big discounts for ordering through them. They ain't making it easy for me to get another brand.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Wow man, that's crazy!

I like USO, I have the TPAL models with GAP reticles in 3.2-17x and 5-25x and some tree reticle in a 1-8x MR-8 I believe it's called. Turns out the only scope that really fits my requirements for my Grendel is their B-10 and I could use their new 1-4x or 1-6x too. I don't wanna end up with nothing up USO scopes but it's working out that way it seems. They are tanks and they do work very well. On top of that, they sent me an email telling me I get big discounts for ordering through them. They ain't making it easy for me to get another brand.

My TRG runs a 5 -25 and my gas gun runs the 3-17. Then I have a 3 - 17 on my .14 Eich. All GAPs' And a 1.5 - 6 on my Colt, custom reticle designed by Doc. And another older USO one with a donut on another AR. All courtesy Doc. No better scopes, imho... But others will differ.

Cheers, Sirhr

 

[Strykervet]

Ha! I have the 5-25 on a DTA HTI in .50BMG and the 3.2-17 is on the SR25! I like 'em too, mounts were hard to find until I stumbled on Badger and haven't looked back.

 

[1J04]

On the basis of this, I may make myself one, too!

Cheers,

Sirhr

I'll take two, for now. Nom Nom Nom. LMFAO. Now then, I'm obviously late to the party due to being busy as fuck because my fucking friends who are late to the "get your load figured out for hunting party", again. Fuckers. And speaking of Fuckers, just who is this "Flapper" guy anyhow? Bueller?

 

[Threadcutter308]

I'll take two, for now. Nom Nom Nom. LMFAO. Now then, I'm obviously late to the party due to being busy as fuck because my fucking friends who are late to the "get your load figured out for hunting party", again. Fuckers. And speaking of Fuckers, just who is this "Flapper" guy anyhow? Bueller?

Gettin’ all spooled up for a “poparockcal” repeat episode ? (I hope )

(I have never had so much fun wasting one continuous block of time as that epic Saturday afternoon about 6'ish weeks ago.....)

 

[1J04]

So why talk shit in a conversation you're not involved in?

And why do you expect it's not going to come back at you?

WOW. Look Betty, you're gonna find out in short order what others have tried to tell you, if you're still here. This isn't the place to beg for attention, because you'll get it, then you'll get it. We're a forgiving bunch of meat heads and have been together for a long long time on here and in the real world. We'd love to have ya come and play, and then again, we love to use people up that refuse to "get it", and then we discard them. Don't be discarded, it sucks. There's a whole pile of'm in the back room.

 

[Veer_G]

WOW. Look Betty, you're gonna find out in short order what others have tried to tell you, if you're still here. This isn't the place to beg for attention, because you'll get it, then you'll get it. We're a forgiving bunch of meat heads and have been together for a long long time on here and in the real world. We'd love to have ya come and play, and then again, we love to use people up that refuse to "get it", and then we discard them. Don't be discarded, it sucks. There's a whole pile of'm in the back room.

Be careful. He's a tough guy.

 

[1J04]

2 cents? - Would it be worth considering that as good as our man is, your chosen fabricator, that getting these two planes fully and perfectly square to each other may be a near impossible task without the aid of CNC milling the thing from a solid billet? Therefore, perhaps incorporating some kind an adjustment / alignment feature into the mount shoe for the LRF could be worth considering.

That said and aside, cool idea!

That said and aside - What happens when an immovable asshole meets and unrelenting asshole?
Stay tuned.

This should help with getting it square. No?

 

[1J04]

I should be able to get this done by the end of the week.... send me a PM with shipping address.

Cheers brother!

Sirhr

You do Lures? Asking for a friend.

 

[oneshot86]

This should help with getting it square. No?

wrong color

 

[1J04]

Be careful. He's a tough guy.

Oh I get that already. I'm pulling back, but not out. We'll see If it's gonna be door #1 or door #2. I'm waiting...........

How long has it been now since the last shit show? Fucking with @sirhrmechanic ? Really? Good choice. I got mad respect for the guys that saunter into the Gulag, pick out one of the biggest, baddest sumbitches in there and smack'm right in the mouth. I always volunteer for the Hospital run..

 

[Threadcutter308]

You do Lures? Asking for a friend.

http://www.gibbsdelta.com/kit-mat

 

[Veer_G]

Oh I get that already. I'm pulling back, but not out.

He'd really appreciate it if you kept on changing your mind, about four or five times a minute.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

So since it's 30 degrees cooler in the workshop at Schloss Nitrocellulose than it is in on the grounds... I went rummaging through my pile of junk

Came up with a nice 3 x 3 piece of 1/8" wall thickness stainless steel tube... Had some welding scars on one side... but that's the side I'll cut off! 1/8th would be too light, IMHO for aluminum. But in SS, this will be more than strong enough. 1/4" wall Stainless would be a barbell!

Nice to have a big water-cooled bandsaw! 8" slab... no problem. True the end first, then cut a bar.

Cut the shape out with the plasma cutter and left some extra to remove on the mill. Sorry, no pictures of plasma cutting. Just stare at the sun for a couple of moments and you'll get the idea. Sucked that I was wearing shorts today (did I mention it's hot out and I had not planned to be in the shop? Shop now smells like burning hair.) Then on to the mill....

Carbide bit made short work of the SS edges, not even any coolant needed. Note the machinist jacks used for fixturing. When the pieces were removed, the edges actually 'sprang' out a lot. Lots of stress in that DOM welded stuff. Put it on arbor press and pushed everything back into shape. Then Zip zip! Finish the edges with a DynaFile and a flap wheel to get things nice and rounded so noone will get cut on edges.

Finished part.... After a quick bead blasting and wire-brushing to get it a nice uniform finish. Had to do a bit of bending as I mentioned above, but it's nice and straight. I was a bit worried about whether it would be rugged enough to hold those big, heavy, tough USO optics. They can be a load, you know! So I decided to do a USO test on it...

In the spirit of U.S. Optics... I parked my Jeep on it. It survived fine, not even a mark. Not on the part or the Jeep.

Finished Fleshlight... er... spotting scope mount with some USO porn in the background.

@Strykervet ... part boxed up and will go out Priority Mail tomorrow! You'll have it by the end of the week, if the 4th does not mess up the mail too bad.

Post some pictures of your finished mount, amigo!

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Oh yeah.... time to complete... 70 minutes. Including parking the Jeep on it. And taking pictures. Took me longer to write it up here than to make it.

Easy as pie...

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[Tucker301]

The bead blasting is just showing off.

 

[Geno C.]

No surface grinding on 2 sides?! ?

 

[Threadcutter308]

So since it's 30 degrees cooler in the workshop at Schloss Nitrocellulose than it is in on the grounds... I went rummaging through my pile of junk

Came up with a nice 3 x 3 piece of 1/8" wall thickness stainless steel tube... Had some welding scars on one side... but that's the side I'll cut off! 1/8th would be too light, IMHO for aluminum. But in SS, this will be more than strong enough. 1/4" wall Stainless would be a barbell!

Nice to have a big water-cooled bandsaw! 8" slab... no problem. True the end first, then cut a bar.

Cut the shape out with the plasma cutter and left some extra to remove on the mill. Sorry, no pictures of plasma cutting. Just stare at the sun for a couple of moments and you'll get the idea. Sucked that I was wearing shorts today (did I mention it's hot out and I had not planned to be in the shop? Shop now smells like burning hair.) Then on to the mill....

Carbide bit made short work of the SS edges, not even any coolant needed. Note the machinist jacks used for fixturing. When the pieces were removed, the edges actually 'sprang' out a lot. Lots of stress in that DOM welded stuff. Put it on arbor press and pushed everything back into shape. Then Zip zip! Finish the edges with a DynaFile and a flap wheel to get things nice and rounded so noone will get cut on edges.

Finished part.... After a quick bead blasting and wire-brushing to get it a nice uniform finish. Had to do a bit of bending as I mentioned above, but it's nice and straight. I was a bit worried about whether it would be rugged enough to hold those big, heavy, tough USO optics. They can be a load, you know! So I decided to do a USO test on it...

In the spirit of U.S. Optics... I parked my Jeep on it. It survived fine, not even a mark. Not on the part or the Jeep.

Finished Fleshlight... er... spotting scope mount with some USO porn in the background.

@Strykervet ... part boxed up and will go out Priority Mail tomorrow! You'll have it by the end of the week, if the 4th does not mess up the mail too bad.

Post some pictures of your finished mount, amigo!

Cheers,

Sirhr

Wow! That's CUSTOM !.....that 'ain't store bought ! Exceptionally nice !

(How long did it take to get the Jeep off of it ?........)

 

[1J04]

http://www.gibbsdelta.com/kit-mat

That's a Big Fish Killer.

 

[1J04]

Damn Nice Job @sirhrmechanic . Does the Hide Rule or what?

So where's the dipshit at? He get the Boondocker in the ass already? Crap !

 

[Sean the Nailer]

You done good, @sirhrmechanic. I tip my hat to ya.

Now, @1J04 regarding those 'bases' you're going to implement on YOUR fleshlight holder/adapter/thingy for your thingy, I'm guessing you are going to want them "high-tech/low-drag" see-through-scope mounts. I dunno if they offer them for a 3/4" tube, though. (You'll have to put one of your pictures of them up here, I only saw them once at a gun-show as a door prize) HA.

Bazinga!

 

[oneshot86]

very good

we,ll call him the sunday stud

 

[1J04]

You done good, @sirhrmechanic. I tip my hat to ya.

Now, @1J04 regarding those 'bases' you're going to implement on YOUR fleshlight holder/adapter/thingy for your thingy, I'm guessing you are going to want them "high-tech/low-drag" see-through-scope mounts. I dunno if they offer them for a 3/4" tube, though. (You'll have to put one of your pictures of them up here, I only saw them once at a gun-show as a door prize) HA.

Bazinga!

You wanna swift kick to the shin? Hmmm? Cuz I'll do it.

 

[flyer]

Not really elementary dude.

I suck at welding aluminum but I know enough not to promise "perfect square" unless I can flycut the sides after welding.

If I am imagining this right, he would be better off buying a piece of 3.5" square tube with 1/4" wall (shouldn't be too hard to find) and then cut it to shape with a milling machine, bandsaw, the creative use of some other machine or even a hack saw and files.

Pro tip: lay out the corners and drill holes to make nice radius'.

Welding probably won't come out perfectly square unless your fixtures are perfect and a 1x piece doesn't get that.

A square tube will spring back a bit when you cut one of the walls but dealing with that is about like dealing with a crooked weldment.

Bending and thick aluminum don't really mix, you get cracking at the edge and if it's under any stress, metal fatigue will break it.

If you made the left side of a "C" thicker, you could get the edges milled square and then bolt the "C" together pretty square but it could loosen and isn't as strong as a tube extrusion.

Any way you slice it, making 1 isn't cheap.

That's what I wrote in response to oneshot86 when he said making this was "elementary".

As you can see from the final product, I was pretty damn close to the method Sir used.

I'm pretty sure I don't have a problem with him, to use a basketball term, game recognizes game.

While I don't do as much of that stuff these days, I know what I'm talking about. If Sir had quoted that part with the shop rates you typically find around here, I'm guessing that's $120 or more because a good estimator always pads the time and materials a bit to cover their ass when something goes wrong. In lower cost areas it might be less but not too much. A lot of shops wouldn't touch that job with a 10' pole because they are looking for gigs to last them months instead of hours.

If anyone should have a beef with me it's oneshot86 because I called him out for being a fool.

But it was labia face that called me out with some flagpole shit.

As for where I've been, I've been busy reloading.

 

[oneshot86]

called me out for being a fool???

back the truck up mother fucker, i know exactly what i speak...

i want to bust your ass mother fucker

 

[Veer_G]

called me out for being a fool???

back the truck up mother fucker, i know exactly what i speak...

i want to bust your ass mother fucker

What flappy doesn't get is that he's got about a half-dozen of us "eager for discourse." My flagpole meme wasn't personal at all.

 

[flyer]

take a chill pill, homeboy...
what he is asking for is very simple, like elemetary, like if you cant pull that off like lickedy split, you would be a retard.

Own it dude.

 

[oneshot86]

mean it exactly the same way as when i posted it

 

[Geno C.]

Own it dude.

Oneshot a fool because he said it's a stupid easy task?! Makes you a fool for not recognizing the simplicity in the task. Sirh even showed the elementary level easy at which it could be completed. With some professional finishing touches even.

 

[Mike Casselton]

@flyer
One thing I can tell you, Oneshot isn't even remotely a fool.
I know him personally and he's about as far from a fool as it gets.

Now if you're talking about actin a fool, yep that's right up his alley. He's good at that too and it makes for some good fun.

You're really itching for an on line ass whipping, aren't you?

 

[sirhrmechanic]

And here we go....