Nerf Gun Drama

[fdkay]

I looked at the Cabarrus ISD webpage.
Wow, really heavy on the diversity, inclusion and equity bullshit.
You need to get your kids out of there.

 

[Bigfatcock]

That is gay. I'll give you that. I have a concealed carry permit, so I don't have to deal with the pistol purchase permit nonsense.

Only the poors have issues with NCs flat tax. If you make good money that 4.99% isn't bad at all. I'd be paying more in 30+ other states.

It's not the taxes, it's the libtard bullshit that has migrated here from up north.

NC has been a libtard shithole for a hot minute.

Did you imply that I’m a poor? How rude.

I just hate taxes, which North Carolina has a lot of. Oh, and gay ass vehicle inspections too. Also, let’s not forget that their pulled pork is slimy and flavorless garbage.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

Lots of weird hippies homeschool their kids, this one family the oldest boy (13-14) didn’t even know what grade he was in

That's because being in a grade means nothing when you're the only one in it. School just happens everyday till you're 17 or 18 and it's all done.
What's way more weird is when I ask parents how old their kid is and they say 6th grade. I say that's not an age and they get stumped because apparently school age kids are completely defined by "grade".

 

[roostercogburn98]

Also, let’s not forget that their pulled pork is slimy and flavorless garbage.

Winner winner, chicken nugget!!!! East coast bbq is foul

 

[MtnCreek]

Sounds like you have more attorneys than I've ever seen.

Fwiw, let's say I had a bitch from the state come to my house. She wouldn't have made it all the way up the drive and second refusal to gtfo would have resulted in drawn weapon and call to the sheriff to send a deputy to explain criminal trespass. Hypothetical.

 

[MtnCreek]

Winner winner, chicken nugget!!!! East coast bbq is foul

Wnc smothered in spicy ketchup is nasty. Down east is good.

 

[Bigfatcock]

Wnc smothered in spicy ketchup is nasty. Down east is good.

All of NC bbq is garbage.

Hookers are low quality too. Only good thing is all the sweet fishing.

 

[Supersubes]

Quick google search didn't turn up anything in NC in regards to this type of event. There’s got to be some NC cops here that may know or have received this type of call. Cant see how a judge would sign a warrant with the facts given by the school to the OP.

 

[Mavrykk]

Why not invite them over and literally have nerf guns covering every square foot of the place?

 

[Rthur]

Here is a comparison of safety checks...
"We need to check your home to make sure your gay relationship isn't exposing your children to homosexual porn"
See the problem here?
Making an assumption of guilt, lacking safety, because your kid has a nerf gun?...
Get fucked.
How about first person killer vid games?
How about chronic drug use?
How about driving while fingering your phone?
Ect.
Ect.
Ect.

Guilty until proven innocent.

R

 

[MtnCreek]

All of NC bbq is garbage.

Hookers are low quality too. Only good thing is all the sweet fishing.

Word is you're liking that Bama whitesauce. Hopefully that's lies...

 

[Bigfatcock]

Word is you're liking that Bama whitesauce. Hopefully that's lies...

Alabama has better bbq and better hookers. Nice ass roads too.

 

[babyguppy]

well, don't invite them in unless they have a warrant..
Cause once they are invited, they don't have to leave, and they can legally search your house.

 

[vinniedelpino]

NC has been a libtard shithole for a hot minute.

Did you imply that I’m a poor? How rude.

I just hate taxes, which North Carolina has a lot of. Oh, and gay ass vehicle inspections too. Also, let’s not forget that their pulled pork is slimy and flavorless garbage.

Now I see what you're doing. Well played, sir.

NC BBQ holds its own and you know it

....you trolling son of a bitch.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

What is Income tax? People pay that?
?

 

[vinniedelpino]

Update:

Just got home from work. Attorney says the principal/guidance counselor have a tampon stuck up their ass and nothing will come of it. If (in the extremely unlikely event the popo show,) call him immediately and he'll take care of it.

I'm not moving.... yet.

 

[Bigfatcock]

Now I see what you're doing. Well played, sir.

NC BBQ holds its own and you know it

....you trolling son of a bitch.

On a serious note, did they question your child without a parent present, or did it just take an unsubstantiated report from a public indoctrination employee to start this rolling?

 

[roostercogburn98]

Update:

Just got home from work. Attorney says the principal/guidance counselor have a tampon stuck up their ass and nothing will come of it. If (in the extremely unlikely event the popo show,) call him immediately and he'll take care of it.

I'm not moving.... yet.

I’d start taking notes on how your child/children get treated from today on though.

 

[vinniedelpino]

On a serious note, did they question your child without a parent present, or did it just take an unsubstantiated report from a public indoctrination employee to start this rolling?

No idea. They pulled my wife inside when she picked him up and he was already in tears, so I'm thinking they questioned him first.

Wife said the guidance counselor was the biggest bitch she's ever met.

 

[Maser]

Do not under any circumstances consent to a search of your house unless a warrant is presented to you. Once you consent to just letting the cops in the house, you've waived your right to a search warrant and the cops can just walk around your house and there's nothing legally you can do about it from then on. Do not talk to cops. Period!

On a funny note, fuck Nerf guns! The last house we lived at I would find those Nerf darts all over the front and back yards and even in the house and yet both my kids don't even own Nerf guns.

 

[Long_Action]

My doormat.... in case you are wondering, now is the time to push back

 

[aslrookie]

As LE, first of all…law enforcement does not enforce policies. I’ve had hospitals try to ask me for assistance to hold patients down for blood draws for their protocols regarding drug use and mental health evaluations. I tell them no.

A school policy does not circumvent the 4th amendment. Additionally, IF for some reason you wanted to give consent for cops to enter your house for this, you can revoke consent at any time. You can also limit the scope of a consent search. You could give consent to search the living room and that’s it. Unless they observed evidence of a crime from within the area you gave consent, that’s all they can do.

I can’t speak for all cops, but I don’t waste my time with nonsense. I wouldn’t even show up to your house if that was dispatched to me. I’d simply advise the school I don’t enforce school policies.

What you have on your hands is a civil matter.

 

[Maggot]

SROs are assigned by town PD. They're regular officers and change out annually or so.

I'm hoping my attorney tells me to to send them packing. If he tells me I have to let them in I will.

Then I'll hit up Zillow and start looking for property somewhere far away with no local PD and an elected sheriff that doesn't subscribe to this gestapo bullshit. Maybe somewhere in WY, SD or OK.

As a new resident, Ill say "Oklahoma's full".

Just kidding, Im loving it here.

 

[Maggot]

Never lived in New York, but North Carolina has long been known in the southeast to tax everything, which it does…a lot…highly. Plus you have the gay ass permit to purchase a pistol. It’s almost as bad as living in California, but it’s nowhere as nice as California. Up until the newsome regime, California was much better than NC. They both tax the shit out of you, but at least California has nice weather lol.

It was easier for me to buy handguns in California than North Carolina. Better hookers too.

To summarize, NC sucks giant cocks Bigfatcocks.

 

[Bourbon_and_Bullets]

The best response would be to move out the communist state of NC. They tax everything, and everything is still a fucking dump.

Agreed. I moved from there as soon as i could after moving there.

Back home in God’s country (TN)

 

[Bourbon_and_Bullets]

Cabarrus

Only place i ever got pulled over in NC.
driving from clt at 3am in the morning and pulled over for 5 over. Fuck Cab county

 

[nikerret]

well, don't invite them in unless they have a warrant..
Cause once they are invited, they don't have to leave, and they can legally search your house.

Not true. Consent can be revoked at any time.

 

[MtnCreek]

Not true. Consent can be revoked at any time.

And if the cop wants, he can easily create a situation where he can not only search everything, but also arrest you. Allowing a cop in your home that's there because he want to look around is inviting trouble.

 

[Redmanss]

Let's not forget North Carolina requires citizens to get a permit from the local sheriff's office to buy a pistol. What in the fuck is that bullshit, and how in the fuck has NC citizenry not gotten that changed yet? Because they fucking love the restrictions on their constitutional freedoms, that's why.

Not going to lie, I wish all hurricanes on that state, as does the wife who lived there for two decades. I at least only have just shy of a decade stationed there, and won't step foot in it one more day for the rest of my life.

Income tax, property tax, sales tax, vehicle inspections, pistol permits, concealed carry permits, and being a die hard purple turning blue state on top of it all. All that and I-95 too.

OP, Zillow and UHaul is your friend.

 

[fdkay]

well, don't invite them in unless they have a warrant..
Cause once they are invited, they don't have to leave, and they can legally search your house.

False. No search, except for a safety sweep, which the must be able to articulate, can be conducted without consent. Consent can be withdrawn at any time. If they refuse, and find something after you've withdrawn consent, fruit of the poisonous tree. If they see something in plain view, it must be immediately recognized as illegal. They still need a warrant, but they can have you exit while they get a warrant.

 

[Aaros143]

Who's protocol is this? And do they seriously believe the PD will do this? There's not even basis for a warrant.

 

[Short-bus]

I'm glad I haven't had to deal with that kind of bullshit. Ever since I started to paint guns for a living, i've always instructed my girls to never tell anybody what I do for a living at school, not even their friends. Mine did private school for a while, and then when we moved out to the countryside they went to a public school. It's a good school, small town/farming type community of about 10K folks, so the school understands that kids are going to talk about their hunting success during deer season. They don't wig out about that. School does have a bit of a drug problem, but what high school doesn't.

I think the school is overstepping their authority (shocker), and they need to fuck right off. I'm not a lawyer, so i'm not going to be the forum lawyer and inform you of what you can or can't do. The attorney you have can do that, sounds like he's going to resolve things for you. See if he can take a few minutes to educate you and your children about their rights, and how to exercise those rights in the proper way.

Good luck, and I hope everything calms down, and I hope that the folks that got their panties in a bunch about a kid talking about a nerf gun, all go jump head first off a bridge onto a busy highway.

Branden

P.S. The best part about the private school, at the end of every year the whole school lines up with water guns and the 8th graders have to walk the gauntlet, symbolically sending them off to high school.

 

[Maser]

P.S. The best part about the private school, at the end of every year the whole school lines up with water guns and the 8th graders have to walk the gauntlet, symbolically sending them off to high school.

My public Jr. High School did that back when I was in 7th grade. Only differences was we used water balloons and the person who had to run through it was the vice principal.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

I'd be at the school to find out who talked to my child in a manner that they were in tears when they were picked up. Then I would have a talk with that person and whoever is their supervisor.
You set boundaries and a warning that those boundaries will not be crossed.
You are your childs only advocate in a fucked up world.

 

[Bigfatcock]

I'd be at the school to find out who talked to my child in a manner that they were in tears when they were picked up. Then I would have a talk with that person and whoever is their supervisor.
You set boundaries and a warning that those boundaries will not be crossed.
You are your childs only advocate in a fucked up world.

Word. School employees are super fucked up, and based off of reports of gross shit over the last several years they probably have mental illness.

Teachers/principals/indoctrination employees can never be wrong. They will lie about your kid, and they will make shit up. Sue that ass and move to Wyoming @Bender.

 

[stemikel]

I'd be at the school to find out who talked to my child in a manner that they were in tears when they were picked up. Then I would have a talk with that person and whoever is their supervisor.
You set boundaries and a warning that those boundaries will not be crossed.
You are your childs only advocate in a fucked up world.

With your lawyer present to help them understand

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

I still wrestle with this regularly.

The most important life lessons I've ever learned were in the locker room and in the back of the school bus. The curriculum is easy enough to cover, but the Lord of The Flies-esque environment that exists within a public school is much harder to replace. That's where I learned to stand up for myself. It's where I learned basic business by trading snacks and selling candy. Behind every black eye and broken heart was a lesson that can't be taught out of a textbook.

To be honest, (and with no offense meant) everyone I've ever met that was homeschooled was awkward as hell. I'm about 20 minutes from the Billy Graham Library too, in the heart of the bible belt. There's no shortage of homeschooled people here. It's the social aspect of things that pushed away from homeschooling thus far.

I wish more conservatives pooled together to create private schools. I'd pay good money for that.

I feel ya man. I'm in a super red county in AL and I still don't want my kids going to public school, but I do want that social training and all that you mentioned.

I have been pushing for vouchers and more charter schools but until then, I will be sending mine to a large Christian private school. We toured it a few weeks back.

I can tell you this, there is absolutely no way in hell these idiots would be coming in my house without a warrant and then my lawyer would be here to greet them and see what else we could do to fight a bogus warrant. This is insane!( unless there is more to this story that isn't being shared)

 

[sirhrmechanic]

If this is not a clue that home-schooling is the answer... I don't know what is!

Sirhr

 

[vinniedelpino]

I'd be at the school to find out who talked to my child in a manner that they were in tears when they were picked up. Then I would have a talk with that person and whoever is their supervisor.
You set boundaries and a warning that those boundaries will not be crossed.
You are your childs only advocate in a fucked up world.

I talked to him about it afterwards. He wasn’t upset about anything the admin said. He freaked out when they got the SRO involved and pulled my wife into the office because he thought I was going to Tear him a new one.

Issue is cleared up. The SRO confirmed that the alleged “safety check” doesn’t apply here, that the school admin has no idea what they’re talking about and that the PD has no part in this. Turns out he’s a pretty cool guy and is just as annoyed with the admin as I am. He was the one that consoled my son until my wife got there and basically told the guidance counselor to BTFO.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

But upon further reflection... it takes time and money to home-school.

So you should get that money and time from your school district by making them pay you a mimimum of $50 million dollars for violation of your child's first amendment rights. For causing pain and suffering to you and your family. For violation of your civil rights by a governmental organization attempting to search your home without due process.

I think a much longer list can me made.

And suspect that you are not the only parent affected by this. So look for a class-action suit. Send out a letter to all parents in your district asking if they or their children have had their civil rights violated by the school in ANY kind of incident like this. Doesn't have to involve guns. Kids talking about gangsta Rap? Censured for their political beliefs (or yours)? Censured or punished for a T-Shirt? In the letter, tell them to get in touch with Class-Action 'counsel.'

Once the letter goes out, you will get a ton of input from like-minded parents. And a school district will settle so fast it will make your head spin! Who knows, a good Lawyer can get very rich themselves over a suit like this.

Go for it. Need to fight back. Not with words on a forum. But in courts. And play for big bucks. Because that's what these little weasels and their commie teachers unions understand.

Sirhr

 

[sirhrmechanic]

I talked to him about it afterwards. He wasn’t upset about anything the admin said. He freaked out when they got the SRO involved and pulled my wife into the office because he thought I was going to Tear him a new one.

Issue is cleared up. The SRO confirmed that the alleged “safety check” doesn’t apply here, that the school admin has no idea what they’re talking about and that the PD has no part in this. Turns out he’s a pretty cool guy and is just as annoyed with the admin as I am. He was the one that consoled my son until my wife got there and basically told the guidance counselor to BTFO.

See comments above. Pain an dsuffering and 'freaked out' at that age is a life-altering event.

You deserve a shit-ton of money. And need to make a point. They swept this under the rug and away because you pushed back. It will enable and embolden them for the next one who lays down... and the one after that... and the one after that.

Glad the SRO was cool. Make sure in the suit that you mention that "The SRO informed the school administration that they were not following protocol when they viciously attacked your son and have left him potentially permanently-scarred mentally."

Go on the attack! This is a totally clear-cut over-reach. Find a good conservative activist lawyer who wants to get rich off a school district and let us know when you win... so we can admire all the new AI's and NF scopes you get!

Sirhr

 

[Devildog]

On a serious note, did they question your child without a parent present, or did it just take an unsubstantiated report from a public indoctrination employee to start this rolling?

When my son was in 4th grade he found a lighter in a fishing boat I had just bought. He took it to school and showed it to some kids on the playground.

The school heard about it, they took my son into the principals office and called the cops. Claimed he had an explosive device at school. Cops talk to my son without me or his mother present.

When I found out I went to the school and ripped that principal a new one. Wtf is wrong with these idiots!

 

[Maggot]

Let's not forget North Carolina requires citizens to get a permit from the local sheriff's office to buy a pistol. What in the fuck is that bullshit, and how in the fuck has NC citizenry not gotten that changed yet? Because they fucking love the restrictions on their constitutional freedoms, that's why.

Not going to lie, I wish all hurricanes on that state, as does the wife who lived there for two decades. I at least only have just shy of a decade stationed there, and won't step foot in it one more day for the rest of my life.

Income tax, property tax, sales tax, vehicle inspections, pistol permits, concealed carry permits, and being a die hard purple turning blue state on top of it all. All that and I-95 too.

OP, Zillow and UHaul is your friend.

Peronally, Im 100% in favor of inspections for autos. Once you see some dumbass slide thru a stop sign because he had no brakes, or bald tires, or bad front end, and kill someone else, you'll know why.

But overall your point is well taken.

 

[OkieMike]

When my son was in 4th grade he found a lighter in a fishing boat I had just bought. He took it to school and showed it to some kids on the playground.

The school heard about it, they took my son into the principals office and called the cops. Claimed he had an explosive device at school. Cops talk to my son without me or his mother present.

When I found out I went to the school and ripped that principal a new one. Wtf is wrong with these idiots!

This is one of the reasons I could never be a LEO... School calls in about a kid with an "explosive device" that turns out to be a Bic...

Everyone in that room (except the kid) is getting a summary execution... Preferably by baton.

Mike

 

[wade2big]

But overall your point is well taken.

Just another example of your overlords keeping you safe. Praise they be. I personally couldn’t imagine a world without gov’t mandated auto inspections enforced by the consequences of imprisonment or death for failure to comply. It would be pure chaos.

 

[johnnycat]

Issue is cleared up. The SRO confirmed that the alleged “safety check” doesn’t apply here, that the school admin has no idea what they’re talking about and that the PD has no part in this.

I'm glad you had a good resolution to this, so my comments are more rhetorical.

HOWEVER, when does a "safety check" apply? Are you telling me that if your son was talking about hunting, or target shooting, or anything involving firearms - which are legal - then a "safety check" would be appropriate? Or your child could be suspended? That is bullshit.

If your child says, "my family has 100 firearms and I am going to kill everyone and burn this place to the ground"...ok you may have a point. Anything short if that is none of their fucking business.

 

[OkieMike]

Peronally, Im 100% in favor of inspections for autos. Once you see some dumbass slide thru a stop sign because he had no brakes, or bald tires, or bad front end, and kill someone else, you'll know why.

But overall your point is well taken.

Well, we don't have that either.

And when we did have it, it was bullshit. Nobody ever pulled your wheels off and checked your brakes. They checked your lights, signals, horn, and tread depth... All the quick, easy, obvious stuff.

Even as a dumb kid I realized that $5 didn't get you much of a "public safety" inspection.

And when they talked about doing away with it, OHP warned us there would be rivers of blood on the roadways from all the unsafe vehicles.

That didn't materialize.

Mike

 

[346ci]

Sure is a lot of shitting on NC in here. 10 minutes of reading will show that schools all over the country are as funked up as ours. Certain counties are the same way when it comes to demographics, plenty of white, black and yellow trash all over.

Taxes, can't argue much on that but if I can survive, most can.

I've had my CCW since 21, haven't bought a pistol permit since. I tell everyone that plans on buying more than one gun in their life, get the CCW to make the process easy.

Vehicle inspections; having worked in major dealers, you would be happy to know I kept some real turds off the road due to failed inspections. 90% of the general public doesn't give a F about their rides, if it goes from A to B, as cheap as possible, they are happy.

Vinnie this situation sucks, I'd get back with my lawyer and see if there is an example/profit to be made of the school's retardation. I don't have any resources to help in that matter, sorry.

 

[Maggot]

Well, we don't have that either.

And when we did have it, it was bullshit. Nobody ever pulled your wheels off and checked your brakes. They checked your lights, signals, horn, and tread depth... All the quick, easy, obvious stuff.

Even as a dumb kid I realized that $5 didn't get you much of a "public safety" inspection.

And when they talked about doing away with it, OHP warned us there would be rivers of blood on the roadways from all the unsafe vehicles.

That didn't materialize.

Mike

Im not ont to go to a place and say "We did it differently where I come from." but in Virginia the charge was $20 and they did a thorough inspection. What Ive noticed is that insurance rates are double what i psid there. Wonder why? Like anything else, it needs to be done correctly.

 

[aslrookie]

Peronally, Im 100% in favor of inspections for autos. Once you see some dumbass slide thru a stop sign because he had no brakes, or bald tires, or bad front end, and kill someone else, you'll know why.

But overall your point is well taken.

Drunk drivers and distracted drivers kill people too. That doesn't mean every vehicle needs an ignition interlock and a cellphone signal jammer. This wouldn't even fix the issue anyway. You could have your vehicle inspected and a month later the brakes go out. How often should inspections be? Daily, weekly, monthly, annually?

I saw an older SUV cross over the centerline by 3/4 of a car width for about a block. I thought the driver was either having a medical emergency or DUI. I stop him, and his vehicle is leaking power steering fluid. His driving conduct and the power steering actively leaking met the criteria for a vehicle per state law that "shall not be operated on a public roadway." That offense is a misdemeanor. He wanted to add more fluid to the power steering and be on his way (he lived another 20mins away on a county road with a 55mph speed limit). I told him no because he was stopped for not being able to even control his vehicle and now the steering fluid is leaking.

That's an example of a vehicle that could've been inspected and a month later now has an issue and still being driven. I've also stopped another driver for failure to maintain his lane on a major highway. He was diabetic, didn't even know what county he was in and blood sugar level above 500. He was on the verge of going into diabetic shock and likely in a ditch or head on into another vehicle. He ended up being transported to the hospital. All examples of situations that just happen regardless of what measures you take to avoid them.