New build 6.5Cm or 260??

[groundhogbuster]

I'm having my 22-250 re barreled to one of the above, by (SAC, Bugholes, or Beanland) haven't picked for sure yet. But Jon over at Beanland suggested the 6.5 CM. I have looked at ballistics in and out and it's splitting hairs. I do and have reloaded for 15yrs, and will be shooting the 139 scenar. I would probably just buy Rem 260 brass for the 260, and I don't run across 65CM brass often. It's a basic build, with Kreiger/Bartlein brrl 8 twist, threaded at 24" in an AMU contour, bedded HSP, trued up. What cal would you pick, and why?
BTW looking for a LR hunting rig and shoot a cpl matches a year, along with some egg shoots as well.

 

[Early Cuyler]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

When I go to the 6.5mm bullet it'll be the Creedmore. There is high quality match ammo readily available as well as high quality brass (Hornady) for cheaper than 260 brass/ammo.

While Hornady brass might not be as popular as Lapua a guy I shoot with uses Hornady for his Creedmore and Lapua for his 260. He claims that the primer pockets stay tighter in the Hornady longer than Lapua. Of course I guess we all know a guy that knows a guy, haha so take it for what it's worth.

 

[prodigalson]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

.260 because, A. You can form brass from 308, 243, and, 7mm-08. B. Quality ammo from Southwest Ammo is very reasonably priced. As far as ballistics go, you're absolutely correct, its splitting hairs. Maybe your deciding factor will be barrel life, and I cannot comment on that, but I'd assume they're pretty evenly matched there as well.

 

[Pusher591]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Buy a case or two of 6.5 Creedmoor, shoot it, then reload empty brass.

I like 6.5 Creedmoor it's great round.

 

[mac37]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jon over at Beanland suggested the 6.5 CM</div></div>
Personally, I like the 6x47 but it's splitting hairs as well... I like what Jon says.
He's built them all and would know.

 

[Mike]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

It doesn't matter.

The slight benefit to the Creedmore is the quality match ammo is readily available nationwide and the brass is real good.

I've had both and it doesn't matter which one you choose. Just go with one and shoot it.

 

[KPK]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Is the case design quite a bit better to you guys? As far as ballistics it's damn near identical, but for long loads, less case trimming, etc. It looks like the CM is a good choice...

I'm pondering the same thing. My stuff will be at my smith this weekend and need to make a dang decision. I've always been set on a .260 until I look at the cases...CM just looks more targety, lol...

 

[smorgousford]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

I went with 260 because there are a few different match loads from different manufacturers(130 VLDs, 139 Scenar, and soon Federal GMM 142 Sierra) and the 6.5CM only has two (120 or 140 AMAX).

Also the 260 has a MUCH wider selection of factory loaded hunting ammo.

Also, I plan on reloading using Lapua brass eventually in the future (which already comes in 260).

 

[Mike]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smorgousford</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I went with 260 because there are a few different match loads from different manufacturers(130 VLDs, 139 Scenar, and soon Federal GMM 142 Sierra) and the 6.5CM only has two (120 or 140 AMAX).

Also the 260 has a MUCH wider selection of factory loaded hunting ammo.

Also, I plan on reloading using Lapua brass eventually in the future (which already comes in 260).</div></div>

Here's the rebuttal:
When you say different manufactures for the 260 match ammo, who are you referring to? Custom loaders or actual ammo manufacturers? Federal is not making 260 yet so the only one I know if is Black Hills. Who else? Because it's really apples to oranges when you're comparing custom ammo to "factory".

260 does have much wider variety of hunting ammo but last time I checked either of the 6.5CM loads kill just as well.

The 6.5CM brass is excellent and easily on par with Lapua.

 

[TOPGuN050]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

creedmoor, as said earlier in the post, buy some factory match ammo, shoot it and then reload the brass.

 

[sab9259]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Tag

 

[AHall]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

I went with CM because of available ammo and i'm not set up for reloading yet.If I reloaded I would have went with 6.5x47 lapua then .260 for a second choice.

 

[427Cobra]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

I'm heavily invested in 260, but if I was just starting out I would go with the Creedmore, the 30 degree shoulder should make barrels last slightly longer, and is the one key feature all super accurate cartridges have in common, now that Hornady has stepped up production brass should be easy to find online.

 

[smorgousford]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smorgousford</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I went with 260 because there are a few different match loads from different manufacturers(130 VLDs, 139 Scenar, and soon Federal GMM 142 Sierra) and the 6.5CM only has two (120 or 140 AMAX).

Also the 260 has a MUCH wider selection of factory loaded hunting ammo.

Also, I plan on reloading using Lapua brass eventually in the future (which already comes in 260).</div></div>

Here's the rebuttal:
When you say different manufactures for the 260 match ammo, who are you referring to? Custom loaders or actual ammo manufacturers? Federal is not making 260 yet so the only one I know if is Black Hills. Who else? Because it's really apples to oranges when you're comparing custom ammo to "factory".

260 does have much wider variety of hunting ammo but last time I checked either of the 6.5CM loads kill just as well.

The 6.5CM brass is excellent and easily on par with Lapua. </div></div>

So the other factory match ammo (besides Black Hills) that I was referring to is Cor-Bon Performance Match (139 Scenar, 123 Scenar and 142 Sierra) and HSM Trophy Gold (130 VLD). Supposedly the Federal GMM will be in stock at Midway and other places by Monday.

That's great to hear that 6.5CM brass is cheap and works very well. I'm not a reloader yet so I can't really comment on this one yet.

I see the custom loaders out there but I don't have any experience with them so I can't comment there either.

It looks like things are changing and getting better regardless of which 6.5mm one ends up choosing!

 

[JCH]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

I've had all three (6.5x47L, Creedmoor, and .260) I keep choosing the Creedmoor. It's too easy to load for. I buy 100 rounds of loaded 140 amax and shoot them up and then I have some good brass to reload. Every single creedmoor I have owned (All built by Jon Beanland) have hammered the factory 140amax load. Easily half-minute every time.

 

[captrichardson]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Sorry but I have to run up the BS Flag on the "ammo argument"!

For example, do a search at Midway:

For a .260 you get 22 options, with 18 of them available as of today.

For a 6.5 CM you get 5 options, with 4 of them available as of today.

Which one has more factory loaded ammo options?

Reality is, they BOTH have factory loaded ammo available!

You can get into a lot of other issues when you compare the two, but it pisses me off to no extent when people want to try and make the sole argument that "you can't get any factory loaded ammo for the .260", especially when the majority of people who are shooting the rifles are handloading anyway, so what freaking difference does it really make!

No disrespect intended to the OP, and in response to your question,

Given you are going with a custom build, so off the shelf rifle options are not an issue, then either one is going to work for you. Per responses above, you are splitting hairs in terms of performance, and if you are handloading your ammo, then either can easily be loaded to meet your needs.

Per above, the .260 does give you a lot more options in terms of brass, but IMHO that is about the only difference between the 2.

Best of luck with your build and shooting,
M Richardson

 

[David S]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Hi all,

I'm in a somewhat similar situation to the O.P., so lemme follow up with just a small informational question: is there any measurable difference between the two for barrel life? 427Cobra, you mentioned that the 30-degree shoulder on the Creedmoor <span style="font-style: italic">should</span> help it versus a 45-degree one; have you any notion as to how much of a difference it's likely to make? Thanks much.

Yours,

David

 

[427Cobra]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

David I have no idea first hand, my 260 has a 8 twist Bartlein with 3810 rounds down it, but the common trait all super accurate cartridges have is the 30 degree shoulder, 6cx, 6.5-284, 6.5 Creedmore, 6.5x47, I'm sure there is more but all these rounds were developed for competition shooting, the 30 degree shoulder is first and foremost an efficiency thing, the Creedmore can push the same pill at the same speed as a 260Rem(20degree shoulder) with less powder and less pressure, and because of that less heat is transferred to the barrel, so the barrel should last longer.

 

[Thor2j]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Simple, not reloading creedmore, reloading .260.
The Lapua 260 brass is superior in every way to the hornady.

The 6.5 creedmore factory ammo is great but make sure you get the same lots. Over many boxes have seen 100fps difference between lots and I'm not the only one. Very consistent in same box and lot, but not outside.

260 has about 4% more case capacity.

 

[groundhogbuster]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Lots of great info guys. I think I've figured out who to send it to, but it's gonna take me a lil longer to figure out which one. I like the idea of buying 5 boxes of factory stuff to break it in, get zeroed with the CM, but I also like the idea of using the Lapua, or if in a pinch, Win 308 brass and form it. I may flip a coin.

 

[427Cobra]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Lapua brass is over priced and over rated, do not base your decision on Lapua brass, in 260 the primer pockets let go 4-5 loads with Lapua brass, 5-6 reloads with Rem brass, Win 7-08 resized to 260 lasts forever, with annealing I have some with 25+ loads, making 260 brass from 308 can be done but its too short(burn your chamber up) and requires neck turning. H4350 is the go to powder for both, but as in Varget lot to lot consistency is not there, that would explain the ES with factory CM ammo between lots, so no matter which one you pick buy three 8 pound jugs and mix them together, when the powder is gone a new barrel will be needed.

 

[average_freak]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Lapua brass is over priced and over rated, do not base your decision on Lapua brass, in 260 the primer pockets let go 4-5 loads with Lapua brass

^^^^^
Yup, hate to admit it but that's what I'm gettin, pretty dissapointing, Is it wrong that I still drool when I think about that brass? I run it hard but not ridiculous 43.6 gr 4350 139 scenar, 2850 with ES of +-20 fps blah blah blah. sounds like I should give the old winny s*** a try.

That is some good advice, If I had to do it over again I would still do a .260 with 139 scenars, I want to quit using Lapua brass, but it's so shiny and consistent

 

[deadnbrkn84]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

If you haven't, read this:

http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shootout-260-6.5x47-6.5-creedmoor/

 

[David S]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the 30 degree shoulder is first and foremost an efficiency thing, the Creedmore can push the same pill at the same speed as a 260Rem(20degree shoulder) with less powder and less pressure, and because of that less heat is transferred to the barrel, so the barrel should last longer.</div></div>

Thanks much, 427Cobra; that does help me to get a handle on the relative advantages.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadnbrkn84</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you haven't, read this:

http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shootout-260-6.5x47-6.5-creedmoor/ </div></div>

Yep, I've had a link to that article for a little over a year now. It's a great read.

Thanks, guys!

-David

 

[Ring]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ProdigalSon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.260 because, A. You can form brass from 308, 243, and, 7mm-08. </div></div>

this is why i did it... i can go to the range, and find 100 rounds of 308 brass for free, and BOOM.. its now all 260 brass...

cant really do that with CM

 

[mdesign]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Does either one of the cartridges feed better than the other?

Ballistics are the same, brass availability is a wash, not sure what the OP is planning for BM but might want to consider if there is an advantage to how they run through the mag box.

 

[Jedi]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

With the new efficient case designs available not utilizing the advantages they offer makes lil sense
Park the model T and join the 21st century

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jedi</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With the new efficient case designs available not utilizing the advantages they offer makes lil sense
Park the model T and join the 21st century
</div></div>

Don't forget one of the main benefits of the 308/708/260/243 case design is that they feed and extract fantastic. the 20 degree shoulder and more body taper may not look as sexy but they do make it more reliable and in my book that is more important than getting the same velocity only with 2grains less powder (really who gives a shit about 2grains of powder!!).

don't get the wrong impression i am a whore to trying new calibers i have personally owned and run 338 edge, 338 lapua, 7 rem mag, 284, 308, 708, 6.5x55,260, 6.5 cm, 6.5x47, 6cm, 6x47, 243, 243ai, 6br, 6 dasher, 22-250ai,22-250, 223ai,223, 22 hornet, 204 ruger, 17 rem. wow just realized what a 6mm whore i really am

 

[Natep]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Built a CM because of the availability of cheaper Match ammo. Dont know if it because the new hasnt wore off or not but the CM seems to have a bigger following then the .260.

 

[earthquake]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TeamSendIt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't forget one of the main benefits of the 308/708/260/243 case design is that they feed and extract fantastic. </div></div>

Wasn't the Creedmoor designed for semi-auto mag-fed rifles? I thought that's what I read one time. It is one of the main reasons I'm leaning towards chambering my barrel in CM...it's gonna be mag-fed.

Interested to know if my thought process is flawed. Thanks.

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

the creedmoor was designed to be shorter so it would fit easier in the mags with match length bullets, since 308 semi auto mags are normally noticeably shorter than aics mags.

 

[earthquake]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Ah, thanks for the clarification! So if I plan to use AICS .308 mags for a CM round, will there be feed problems? This will be in a McRees chassis and a Bighorn action.

I'm just looking to build a 6.5mm comp gun w/o too many issues/problems or modifications. I could go either way (.260 or CM).

Thanks again.

 

[sab9259]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

I dont think there is many feed related problems with the 6.5CM, I am going with the creed for my upcoming build.

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

don't get the wrong impression i like the 6.5 creedmoor a lot (i own 2 currently), however cartridges with more body taper and less shoulder angle will always feed and extract inherently smoother just based on physics alone.

 

[groundhogbuster]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

I have heard the CM does feed better, but ???. I almost went with a new 6BR, after watching some guys print some very nice targets, at 1K, and I thought since I'm replacing my varmint gun why not? But then again, I don't think I'd ever see a whistle pig crawl back in the hole after a 139gr scenar hit it, and the ability to take whitetail as well and more with either of the 6.5s. I'm being pushed to the 260 a bit, because I never buy factory loads. I like shooting my own stuff, just like I like flyfishing with my own flies.

 

[earthquake]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

I was/am leaning CM since I don't reload, but I do eventually want to. From other threads I've read on this site, what turned me more to the CM is that people were saying with the .260 and barrel wear, you need to chase the lands and thus run into issues with mag length. It didn't seem to be as much a problem, or so I understood, with the CM due to the steeper shoulder angle.

Looks like you can reload CM too if you want, so I think that's what I'm 95% going to do. Buy a bunch of factory Hornady, shoot it, then start learning how to reload.

 

[captrichardson]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Gotta love the internet, more damn misinformation, urban myths, and pure BS than you can sort through, but here goes:

Feeding – a .260 and a 6.5 CM BOTH feed with NO issues. If you hear otherwise, then the person saying that doesn’t have a clue, or they are running a jacked up rifle. You can argue physics, geometry, or whatever else you want, but in the real world no one is having any feeding issues with either caliber in a properly built rifle and properly loaded ammo.

Chasing Lands – chasing lands has NOTHING to do with a .260 or a 6.5 CM round. Chasing lands has to do with the type of bullet that you shoot, and how quickly you are wearing out your throat. You can shoot a Tangent or Secant Ogive bullet from both rounds, so whether you end up chasing the lands comes down to your bullet selection (Secant you chase). Both rounds are going to have an almost identical throat wear rate, so how quickly the throat goes and if you have to chase it comes down to how hard you push your loads, and things like barrel quality.

Brass Availability – NO QUESTION the .260 has an advantage here.
Factory Brass – 6.5 CM ONLY has ONE!, the .260 has multiple.
With the .260 you can also easily neck up or neck down a large number of other calibers. The 6.5 CM neck angle hurts it when you are trying to form cases from other calibers.

Brass Life – is about as subjective as whether you can wear a pair of socks for one day or 5 days before you change them! When you talk about .260 or a 6.5 CM brass, the ultimate life cycle will come down to how hot it is loaded, the quality of the rifle that it is fired in, and how the brass is worked during the reloading process. If you are trying to compare the two, NEITHER has a SIGNIFICANT advantage over the other.

Guess YMMV, Best of Luck,
M Richardson

 

[07zx6r]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Assuming you are starting from scratch, is there any reason to pick the 6.5x47 over the Creedmoor or 260? I keep hearing/reading that the 260 and Creed are about 150-200 fps faster, but yet I see so many 6.5x47's on this site..why?

 

[mac37]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but yet I see so many 6.5x47's on this site..why?</div></div>

They are very accurate, easy to develop load, brass lasts for ever and rarely requires trimming, great barrel life, low recoil, etc...

 

[David S]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: captrichardson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gotta love the internet, more damn misinformation, urban myths, and pure BS than you can sort through, but here goes:

[...]

Guess YMMV, Best of Luck,
M Richardson</div></div>

Thank you so much, M Richardson; you've confirmed the very conclusions to which I was timidly coming. Accordingly, I've settled on chambering to a .260 Ackley with a Broughton blank barrel.

Thanks again,

David

 

[Mike]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Captain Richardson, I agree with almost everything you said but I would like you to address these two issues.

Factory Brass – 6.5 CM ONLY has ONE!, the .260 has multiple.
With the .260 you can also easily neck up or neck down a large number of other calibers. The 6.5 CM neck angle hurts it when you are trying to form cases from other calibers.

What difference does it make if there is only one brass choice? It's good, quality brass. Sure, they can run out but I will tell you having owned and shot a 260 for a long time that vendors run out of 260 brass too. And when you're going from Remington brass to Lapua or Nosler, it's going to change your load. Also, that's a huge price difference as well.

Second, why in the world would you need to neck up or down either caliber? What caliber are you going to shoot where necked up/down 260/6.5cm brass is the preferred donor brass?

Other than that, you're spot on.

 

[mac37]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accordingly, I've settled on chambering to a .260 Ackley</div></div>

What does a .260 Ackley have to do with this thread? The OP was asking about factory brass, factory loads, commercial ammo availability. With an ackley you have to reload and fire form brass. And now you do introduce feeding issues with the steeper shoulder angle.

 

[groundhogbuster]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mac37</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accordingly, I've settled on chambering to a .260 Ackley</div></div>

What does a .260 Ackley have to do with this thread? The OP was asking about factory brass, factory loads, commercial ammo availability. With an ackley you have to reload and fire form brass. And now you do introduce feeding issues with the steeper shoulder angle. </div></div>

Thank you, even the 6.5x47, I do not even wanna go there. I have saw way too many people chasing brass for $110 per 100. Lapua brass interests me little. The old WIN has served me well. Yea some of them don't come in in great condition, but wer'e talking $45-$50 per 100 vs over a buck each with Lapua. If I were gonna shoot competition, turn necks, and all that maybe. But if my 5R will shoot sub .5" with win, I'm sure a trued up action and good tube will surpass that, and get hits on game and steel at 800-1k. My only wish is that the Co. that came out with the 260 (rem) had a decent heavy brrl decent stocked version, but they don't. I think that will change in the future (or at least I hope) Thanks for all the info guys, and my mistake for saying feeding issues for the CM but it was the 6BR that had issues, and serves better in single shot, and not box mag. I'm doing it all in a factory hsp stock, bedded, but I may stick it in a chasis soon, and looking at the XLR, as soon as funds provide, and it may be after the krieger/bartlein is shot out.

 

[David S]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Oops. Sorry, all (especially groundhogbuster). I didn't mean to threadjack.

Yours,

David

 

[captrichardson]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Captain Richardson, I agree with almost everything you said but I would like you to address these two issues.

Factory Brass .....

What difference does it make if there is only one brass choice? It's good, quality brass. Sure, they can run out but I will tell you having owned and shot a 260 for a long time that vendors run out of 260 brass too. And when you're going from Remington brass to Lapua or Nosler, it's going to change your load. Also, that's a huge price difference as well.

Second, why in the world would you need to neck up or down either caliber? What caliber are you going to shoot where necked up/down 260/6.5cm brass is the preferred donor brass?

Other than that, you're spot on. </div></div>

I went .260 with my rifles because I did not want to "put all of my eggs in one basket". If a shooter is OK with their brass supply coming down to a single manufacturer that is their call.

Short term brass shortages, due to supply and demand issues, do not impact me. I actually avoid that issue by keeping a back supply on hand. As pointed out above, I don't want to have to keep switching from one manufacturer to another for a short term brass supply, which would then force me to keep changing my loads and data. Of course if you are not prepared for these shortages then you are TSOL because they DO happen sporadically with BOTH rounds. At least with the .260 if a factory supply does dry up for a longer period, there are more, and if all of the factory supplies dry up long term you can easily neck other brass up or down. What do you do if you are shooting 6.5 CM and the single factory supply dries up long term?

Sorry if there was confusion on the “Neck Up / Neck Down Issue”, I was not referring to making another caliber from 6.5 brass, I was talking about making 6.5 brass from either 6mm or 7mm brass. Making .260 from something like .243 or 7mm-08 is very easy. It is obviously not so easy to try and make 6.5 CM because of the shoulder angle.

Hopefully that clarifies it,
M Richardson

 

[KPK]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Welp I just got home from my gunsmith's. I went .260.

I'd been fighting this decision for months, finally got all my parts together, and "went with my gut". I've always had my mind set on the the .260, but had been doubting it as the Creedmoor is interesting...

He really told me either way it's about the same and really wouldn't tell me what he thought. I think it's just one of those deals. Just like this thread, do what you want they are so close it doesn't matter...but he did say the .260 is a little hotter round, as stated.

Rem brass is cheap too!!

 

[matu52]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

It seems the primary argument for CM is the "readily available match ammo." It's not something you can buy at every gun store so you're still going to have to order it. You can order just as much excellent 260 ammo from SW, BH or a few others. And there's more 260 brass available for reloading which the op said is his primary source for ammo.

These cartridges have the same performance for all intents and purposes. Even if you never reloaded it wouldn't matter anymore because some reputable manufacturers are making accurate, reasonably priced ammo for both, which angers hornady I'm sure

 

[groundhogbuster]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

Looks like a stick in 260! Now it's Beanland, SAC, Spartan, or Bugholes. I really like John at Beanland, being the only person that touches the gun, but most the Co's have been very nice and helpful so far, and that's what makes the deal for me. What would you guys expect to pay for the following
1.True action
2. Chamber and install a brrl in 6.5 8 twist, as well as thread.
3. Skim bed HSP (Probably be in a XLR next yr)
4. No trigger work!
5. Cut out stock for MTU/AMU contour. (It will work I have a HV Hart on another HSP.)
6. Plain polished ss finish, no ceracoat, bead blast notta.

 

[KPK]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

I can't really comment on which is best, but I've gotta say Greg at Bugholes is a helluva guy and will treat u right. I've talked to Robert at RWS and he seems like a stand up dude too.

Not sure on others prices, but Robert is like $250 for facing the action, cleaning the lugs up and installing the barrel I think.

Also I think bedding is cheap at like 150 or so. Check my prices, but they are close.

 

[Surffshr]

Re: New build 6.5Cm or 260??

I don't think it makes a hill of beans difference on target. I went cm, bought 400 rounds of factory ammo, and figure IF I get 5 reloads out of this bunch then I'll probably need/want another barrel/caliber...I think the ability to pick up range brass to make a reload for a custom stick is a silly. I mean really...how many pieces of brass do you need to wear a barrel out and how often do you do that?