This is the only thing I would change about this scope as well. The reticle is too thick in the center, a floating dot would make it complete. Updating it with better glass goes without saying. Looking forward to seeing what is released.
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Rifle Scopes New Bushnell Elite LRHS2
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I was thinking something similar. Camerland is $750ish correct? LRHS is said to be under $1000.......is $250ish for better glass worth the wait?......I'm waitingDebating if I should hold off and put this on my 6cm hunting rifle or just snag a LRTS from Doug at cameraland
I feel like I’m in the back of the Country Squire, going on vacation for the first time..
“When are we gonna get there daddy”?
“Just a little bit longer, son. We’re getting close”.
“When are we gonna get there daddy”?
“Just a little bit longer, son. We’re getting close”.
I highly doubt that as the LRHS2 will not have illumination, which should keep the value of the LRHSI strong
I would say that reflects the majority of us - is illumination really needed for 98% of what we do, even in low light situations, probably not, but the old adage applies "better to have it and not need it, than to not have when you do need it".
They're on the way. We're making sure they're right, and that we're announcing them close to when they're available for purchase.
Not sure if you can say, but I’m curious to see if this is weeks, or months out.
Details on the new scope that differ from the old 4.5x18 LRHS
Biggest and best differance is the Glass has been changed to ED Prime, otherwise known as HD etc, much brighter and resolution is top notch.
New lens coatings that allow even more light in and less glare
G3H reticle is back and does not need illumination as its thicker for low light
for those that have not used to G3H id has a 2 mil circle that when dropped to 4.5 power make a nice (dogunut of death) for close range hunting.
Removable throw levar for fast power up or down
lockable windage knob, we went away from the capped windage and added the locking windage knob. Some guys wont use it after Sight in and some will so it opens more options.
Rest of the scope is the same , the length and weight is the same.
Price will be under $950 and will be available in Late June We will put a complete write up out soon and put up a pre order with small deposit on our wedsite to secure one from the first shipment
Thanks Guys
George
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Biggest and best differance is the Glass has been changed to ED Prime, otherwise known as HD etc, much brighter and resolution is top notch.
New lens coatings that allow even more light in and less glare
G3H reticle is back and does not need illumination as its thicker for low light
for those that have not used to G3H id has a 2 mil circle that when dropped to 4.5 power make a nice (dogunut of death) for close range hunting.
Removable throw levar for fast power up or down
lockable windage knob, we went away from the capped windage and added the locking windage knob. Some guys wont use it after Sight in and some will so it opens more options.
Rest of the scope is the same , the length and weight is the same.
Price will be under $950 and will be available in Late June We will put a complete write up out soon and put up a pre order with small deposit on our wedsite to secure one from the first shipment
Thanks Guys
George
New Bushnell -- LRHS2
Any idea of the introduction date & deliveries will begin?
www.24hourcampfire.com
I keep reading this and it keeps bothering me, yes, a thicker reticle can help in low light situations, but stating "does not need illumination" is a bit of a stretch. My G2H reticle is also pretty thick, but there are situations where it is nice to have the illumination. Yes, for most of us we rarely use the illumination for most of our daytime shooting, but it is nice to have it in those rare instances you need it than to not have it when you do need it.
Your right Bill, I’ve got one place that I hunt and right at dusk when most of our deer come out in that area, it gets dark in there quick. I’ve not been able to take many a shot because I could see the deer, but not the reticle, SFP or FFP. So now I just buy
Illuminated scopes. Period. I might hunt with my 19lb match rig or my lightweight one, but all my scopes are illuminated now. Don’t know why they would improve the scope
And leave out the illumination.
Illuminated scopes. Period. I might hunt with my 19lb match rig or my lightweight one, but all my scopes are illuminated now. Don’t know why they would improve the scope
And leave out the illumination.
Just an FYI, Those are Georges words not mine. I would rather have illumination for the 1% of time its needed.
Nice!
Now...you guys go buy them ALL so maybe there will be a reason to make a 3-12?
I feel really strongly that the Original 3-12 LRHS was the best crossover scope (shooting/hunting) ever made...
Now...you guys go buy them ALL so maybe there will be a reason to make a 3-12?
I feel really strongly that the Original 3-12 LRHS was the best crossover scope (shooting/hunting) ever made...
I still have 4 of the 3-12. Sold all my 4.5-18
At least to my eye the 3-12 was very near perfect for a multi use scope.
To many people think the need more than 12x when they really don’t
At least to my eye the 3-12 was very near perfect for a multi use scope.
To many people think the need more than 12x when they really don’t
I have owned multiples of :
3-12 LRHS
4-18 LRHS
4-18 LRTSi.
The eyebox is a little bit tighter on the 4-18 but they are almost the same size, weight,ect. Much rather have the extra top end.
I think George Said the 4-18 outsold the 3-12 10 to one. I doubt there is enough demand for them.
If you really want a 3-12, find a used one.
3-12 LRHS
4-18 LRHS
4-18 LRTSi.
The eyebox is a little bit tighter on the 4-18 but they are almost the same size, weight,ect. Much rather have the extra top end.
I think George Said the 4-18 outsold the 3-12 10 to one. I doubt there is enough demand for them.
If you really want a 3-12, find a used one.
So you actually use the 3-4.5 power range?
If the 3-12 was physically smaller I’d also prefer the 3-12 b/c of the size but I never use a scope on less than 4.5 even in the woods. If I’m going to lug a long and heavy scope around it might as well have more magnification for evaluating bone at distance.
I believe the 3-12 is a bit shorter than the 4.5-18
As far as usable power, for me they are more like 4-12 and 6-15x
If the Gen 2 really does have better glass and a better eye box it would be a solid scope
As far as usable power, for me they are more like 4-12 and 6-15x
If the Gen 2 really does have better glass and a better eye box it would be a solid scope
The 3-12 is considerably smaller than the 4.5-18.
I sold my 4.5-18 and kept my 3-12. Where I use it at I dont need the extra on top and the eye box was more forgiving. On the two examples I had, my 3-12 did better right at dusk with light so that’s the one I kept.
I definitely prefer the 3-12 to the 4.5-18. The 3-12 is more compact and punches above it's weight class in low light. I would love to see it lose some weight, but the changes sound good.
Dimensions are not a toss up.
3-12 smaller
3-12 better eye box
12x on top is a delight
3-12 better all around, IMO
That said, some guys like more power. If that’s you (or anyone else), then it’s good to know what you like and seek that out.
More than anything, I loved the generous eye box and shorter length on the 3-12
Does that include an update to the xrs ii? or are those still being produced?
How noticeable is the difference in glass with the ED Prime glass? I currently own a 4.5-18 LRHSi and two DMR II scopes and they are the best glass of any scopes I’ve owned. I’ve never had any top tier scopes but the glass in the regular Elite line seems pretty good and looks better to me than the Viper PST gen 2 and Athlon Ares BTR I have.
Contemplating selling my LRHSi to buy one of these when they come out of the glass is noticeably better. I’ve never actually used the illumination
Contemplating selling my LRHSi to buy one of these when they come out of the glass is noticeably better. I’ve never actually used the illumination
Still classified on the first. The XRS II is no longer in production. Since I know that'll cause some concern for some - Yes, we're still totally taking care of people on warranty on them.
Can you comment on any new reticle possibilities in the line? Specifically any .2 mil hash mark versions?
I used to feel the same way when I had 20/10 vision.
As my vision got worse, the extra magnification came in pretty handy on targets and small varmints.
For shooting big game, yeah, 12x is plenty.
I was one who jumped on the bandwagon early when the 3-12 LRHS was introduced, primarily because it was advertised at 20 to 21 ounces. When it arrived at 25 ounces I became less enthused because that was not what I put my money down for.
Should have kept them, they are hard to beat in their price range even at 25 ounces.
Should have kept them, they are hard to beat in their price range even at 25 ounces.
That was a bit disappointing. I’ve been on the wagon this whole time. Tough to beat them. The 3-9 SWFA is G’d up from the street up though.
I just drank some LRTSI koolaide, tasty!
The -12x is nicely proportioned for what I use it for.
When/if the new one comes lumed, I will be in line as well.
The -12x is nicely proportioned for what I use it for.
When/if the new one comes lumed, I will be in line as well.
chevy, I hear you on the weight of the Elite scopes. I wish my LRTS was 6 oz. lighter but it has everything else I wanted so a few ounces won't kill me since my 6.5 PRC Browning X-bolt Pro only weighs 6 lbs. 3 oz. naked.
I looked a long time at the Nightforce ATACR in that same magnification range and it is very nice but also very pricey.
I looked a long time at the Nightforce ATACR in that same magnification range and it is very nice but also very pricey.
Yup, the 3-12x is shorter, has a more forgiving eyebox, and has better glass on similar magnification. The 3-12x LRHS/LRTS is my favourite all-around scope. For strictly hunting where weight is a concern, the SS 3-9x is my number-one choice. For strictly match-type shooting, the DMRII Pro is sweet. But for a general, do-it-all scope, it's tough to beat the 3-12x.
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