New Defiance Elite Action

[5RWill]

Defiance is now offering their new elite action with CRF, Mechanical ejector, Extended front tenon, and a different firing pin assembly. Glad to see defiance updating, i know they had a CRF action before but it seemed like nothing ever came of it.

Here's video 2 & 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSVguYA954c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSj3VMFbOes

 

[Xander3Zero]

Looks like a nice action for sure; will be interesting to see what the price point is... Deviants are right around $1300 I believe?

 

[jzwolen]

Include DLC for that $1300 mark and I would pick one up for sure

 

[5RWill]

Saw defiance respond to a question about that, 1330/1350$ is the price i believe.

 

[RyanM]

I just put a deposit down on one. For all the features they have it is a good value (up in Canada at least).

It will be quite the departure for me as I have been using an AI AX exclusively for awhile.

 

[MarkLeupold]

I'm very interested in this action. It looks like it'll be a fine piece of work

 

[bob7-08]

does defiance machine offers the elite crf bolt face on the standard deviant action?i'm about to order a deviant hunter which would be perfect with this bolt face!

 

[BCX]

does defiance machine offers the elite crf bolt face on the standard deviant action?i'm about to order a deviant hunter which would be perfect with this bolt face!

I asked the same question and the answer is NO it’s a new designed action which is actually longer than their standard Deviant action body..

 

[RyanM]

I have had mine for a couple of weeks now and am very pleased with it.

I have it in a MPA chassis and it dropped in no problem. The extended tenon piece has caused no issues that I am aware of at least.

I am currently feeding 6Br rounds out of AW mags with the HRD Gear mag kits and it is running great. I really like the manual ejector, slam the bolt back and the brass will fly across the room, nice and slow during load development just let it sit in the chamber.

It is my first Defiance action and it does have that tight feeling but it is breaking in. The bolt lift is what is unreal. They run that longer spring and it makes the open/close of the bolt very nice.

 

[BCX]

I tried to order one w a Wsm bolt face for a 6.5 Prc. I couldn’t wait a year plus for the action to come out w a Wsm bolt. Glad there is good feed back on the action!!

 

[boltactions]

does defiance machine offers the elite crf bolt face on the standard deviant action?i'm about to order a deviant hunter which would be perfect with this bolt face!

Yes you can order that way.

 

[bob7-08]

Yes you can order that way.

thank you!
now i need to know if i need a standard push feed or crf?
waiting for my import license will let me 2 weeks to find the answer!

 

[bjay]

Yes defiance comes with CRF..also they're elite is upgraded version mechanical ejector..mine is like mausingfield crf style the elite is similar to TL3

 

[RyanM]

@bjay is correct. The Elite is very similar to the Bighorn TL3 - really the only differences would be the swappable bolt heads and bayonet style of the TL3.

The tenon on the Elite is huge - it also has the coned bolt nose and the fancy firing spring thingy.

 

[ebert]

will the crf ride over a single fed round or does it have to pick up a round out of a magazine

 

[Renomd]

Can anyone @bjay comment on how smooth the operation is (bolt lift, picking a round up,etc) compared to a standard push feed defiance deviant or compared to a tl3 or other high end actions?

 

[bjay]

Can anyone @bjay comment on how smooth the operation is (bolt lift, picking a round up,etc) compared to a standard push feed defiance deviant or compared to a tl3 or other high end actions?

CRF going to be more smoother when locking up.theres no tension coming from ejector.

 

[Mattio]

Can anyone explain the purpose of the extended tenon for a chassis guy? Extended bedding surface in a stock, sure... but how is an improvement to the chassis guys?

 

[spife7980]

More meat in the action holding the barrel means it holds the barrel more securely all other things being equal.

 

[rijndael]

More meat in the action holding the barrel means it holds the barrel more securely all other things being equal.

But don't the first 6 or 7 threads carry something like 95+% of the load?

 

[spife7980]

But don't the first 6 or 7 threads carry something like 95+% of the load?

Im dont know. I mean, Ive read anecdotes about stuff like that, but never knew for certain or seen any actual math on the subject.
So maybe its only an incremental advantage, 5% of that one single aspect of all the others that comprise the complete rifle system. But trying to go from .3-.4 moa to .1-.2 moa I would want every incremental advantage I could get.

 

[rijndael]

Ive read anecdotes about stuff like that, but never knew for certain or seen any actual math on the subject.

http://gmcws.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/jim-rowe-fastener-presentation.pdf Page 13.

https://www.fastenal.com/content/feds/pdf/2017/02/Screw Threads Article rev 2017-02-21.pdf

 

[spife7980]

I guess I should have clarified I havent seen the math on how it effects accuracy and not its propensity to strip out.