At what approximate yardage does the 3250. / 130vdl drop to 1800fps?
Over 1000 yards if pointed as suggested (at near sea level, even further at elevation)
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At what approximate yardage does the 3250. / 130vdl drop to 1800fps?
Build in process on an EH-3 in molded GAP camo when its done ill compare the wieght to a Standard Xtreme hunter in an SL. 4 to 5oz is my guess
I have read a few forums with mixed opinions about the
Remy xpro trigger.Non came from GAP owners. Many say its not consistent with repetitive use .Some say the trigger pull fluctuated. My personal experience, I had no complaints
.I had a local Smith lighten it up a bit. Though I sold the rifle with under 400 rds fired.
It comes very strongly recommend NOT use a Jewl for hunting because of dirt reasons. So I guess my question is the GAP tuned remy trigger have other modifications in the tuning process that removes these possible myths that may occur?
Is there a cycling difference between the bottom metal mag and hinged floor plate on this new long nosed bad ass cartridge ?
Don't mean to be disagreeable, but it's called a magazine...
I bought all the components and sent them to Moon. It's a Bartlein barrel from Grizzly with a .256/.264 bore. I don't know if that's good or bad. I also ordered the Gap 6.5 4s reamer Print#54565 neck turn freebore .081. So it nothing different that has been done here. Maybe its something that I am doing wrong. I am going to try rem brass and Retumbo.
All my brass are my handloads.
Regardless, would be interested in hearing any thoughts on this as well (BDL vs Magazines feeding).
We have our own, Mag Box, Follower, and BDL type bottom metal just for WSM/SAUM its alot wider/longer than a Remington Setup. 3.015 OAL on the box. Its feeds like a dream. Ill post some picks up tomorrow of our Setup. Big #10 has this setup and its already sitting next to my desk.
George,
Just curious what bore guide is used for this caliber?
I have read this whole thread and it is fantastic; thanks guys! I was wondering if anybody has used the Barnes TTSX or LRX bullets in the 6.5 SAUM? I know they don't have quite as good of a BC, but for moderate ranges would that be much of an issue?
We have our own, Mag Box, Follower, and BDL type bottom metal just for WSM/SAUM its alot wider/longer than a Remington Setup. 3.015 OAL on the box. Its feeds like a dream. Ill post some picks up tomorrow of our Setup. Big #10 has this setup and its already sitting next to my desk.
Here are a few Pictures of our SAUM BDL setup. Box is Stainless stell as well as the follower, OAL is 3.015 It holds 3 down with room to spare so the first round strips easy, feeding and reliability is perfect.
This will only fit and work in our Templar hunter action as the cuts in the bottom are opened and optimized for this box, It will not fit in a Remington 700 without major modifications.
These are available on all Customs in SAUM and WSM And RCM and Is the Standard on our Non-Typical Hunter. This could be ordered as a custom option on the extreme hunter as well.
Thanks for the pictures and explanation. The GAP craftsmanship ALWAYS looks excellent. Does GAP offer a shallower/flush 3-4 round mag in the Manners SL / 6.5 SAUM ? All the Extreme Hunter pictures I've seen appear to have deeper/extended mags.
Thanks, I have his for all my other rigs/calibers but I was just curious if GAP had something else. Called Mike and ordered it today.Contact Mike Lucas for a good bore guide for the SAUM. He'll make one for your action and rod you choose to use. I was referred to his bore guides a long time ago and have not looked back since ordering the first one. Very well made
Alan
No such animal, The mags shown only hold 4. and most guns, the bolt wont ride over the top if 4 are loaded so you have 3 in the mag in the rifle and 4 in the mag in your pocket. There are also 7 and 10 round mags available but they stick out further.
Whats your issue with the Mag sticking out the bottom 1.5" its at the same point as the trigger bow which has to stick out????
Well I guess ive never looked a it that way as it doesn't stick past the trigger. All my rifles have been hinged. So Id just assume for carrying / hunting purposes the" flush" would serve me better.I seem to carry my rifles at that location often. Although I do want the mag system I was curious if there was a "sleeker" design available. Either way the GAP rifles are a very sweet package inside and out and most importantly down range. Thanks to you , Manners and this forum for answering basically all my questions. Just a few cost questions via D and I will soon be a GAP owner enjoying some Gnats Ass. Exciting, thank you all.
FWIW I had a non typical 7WSM with BDL bottom metal. When rounds were loaded out to 2.93 they would nose up and not feed reliably every time (cycling rounds through rifle). With my 260 non typical I went with Pat's advice and got the M5 bottom metal (since changed out to APA) with AICS mags and have had 100% reliable feeding of every single round.
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Yep. 5 round .308 AICS mags.
7WSM held 2 down plus one in chamber. IIRC it was pretty hard to get three down I sold that rifle to order the extreme hunter.
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FWIW I had a non typical 7WSM with BDL bottom metal. When rounds were loaded out to 2.93 they would nose up and not feed reliably every time (cycling rounds through rifle). With my 260 non typical I went with Pat's advice and got the M5 bottom metal (since changed out to APA) with AICS mags and have had 100% reliable feeding of every single round.
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Yep. 5 round .308 AICS mags.
7WSM held 2 down plus one in chamber. IIRC it was pretty hard to get three down I sold that rifle to order the extreme hunter.
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Just buy an extra mag with the rifle and carry it in your hunting vest. That's what I did!
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What year was your BDL Non typical delivered, this system is about a year old and fixed issues with the older Remington style we used to use with a Wyatt Box.
I bet you had the old system
That's what I intend to do. Maybe 3-4 loaded mags just in case zombies are out , LOL
Hows the mag release on the Xtreme hunter ? Any accidental mag released ?
The mag release is integrel with the trigger guard, and won't snag on clothing, packs, brush, etc. I've not had an accidental mag drop, and haven't had a single feeding snafu with this system. It's pretty much bombproof from what I've seen.
Alpine
I assume your using redding bushings in your dies? They have a large bevel that doesn't size about .050 of the neck. What I do is size the 300 case with a 314 redding bushing to 7mm. Then I resize it in a standard full lenght 7saum sizing die and that sizes the whole neck including the .050 the redding bushing didn't size. Then I use a .294 redding bushing to bring it to 6.5mm. After that I size again with a .293 Wilson bushing in my redding die. The Wilson bushings has a smaller bevel so it sizes more of the neck. You can also use a .310 Wilson bushing in place of the 7mm standard full lenght sizing that I do. Then I run it through my Sincair mandrel and turn my necks to .016 instead of .015. This gives me a .295 loaded neck with a Berger VLD which is perfect for the .298 no turn reamer. Others may do it different but this is my way and it works great for me. I had the same issues as you in the beginning but this method gets rid of that bulge that the redding bushings leave. The reddings are the best for sizing down but the area left by the radical bevel can be an issue when neck turning. Using a redding bushing on 7mm brass necking down to 6.5 is not an issue like coming down from 300 to 6.5 using them. Hope this helps.
Darren
This also intrests me. I'm not a big fan of the tsx from past experience but the newer TTSX and LRX have got great reviews even though BC is lower. Unfortunately I see Oregon eventually going all copper like California. I dont agree with their logic on birds dieing from animal cut piles with lead bullet remains inside. What are those odds??? I would much rather shoot Bergs but might be restricted someday. I would be curious about the amount of powder needed for a LRX or TTSX to keep up with a Berg VLD but remain low pressure to where the SAUM shines
Just reposting with the original quote, sorry I'm a newby:
Well, when you get yours you will have to try the TTSX and LRX out and post your findings here
I believe I read somewhere in this thread that some fellas preferred the Remington brass as opposed to the Norma brass.. Why is that? Also, has anyone tried the 136 Scenars?? If so, how did they perform?
Thanks,
Bob
Ive been shooting the JLK 140 and 130gr bullets out of my 6.5 4S for a couple weeks now. I am really impressed. Their performance is a little flatter then Berger and they group extremely tight. Will post pics shortly.
I believe I read somewhere in this thread that some fellas preferred the Remington brass as opposed to the Norma brass.. Why is that? Also, has anyone tried the 136 Scenars?? If so, how did they perform?
Thanks,
Bob
JLK claims .630BC with 140VLD and .620BC with 130VLD. Thats more than Berg claims. Any experience on critters with JLK? I haven't read much or seen much about the JLK's. Although I have never attended a Long range event..........yet