They will be available by all major Garmin carriers is my understanding. I am hoping to get a pre-order date of some kind in the near future, but if anything else they should be on the shelves by August 18th +/-.
Aug 24th........DO WANT!!!!
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They will be available by all major Garmin carriers is my understanding. I am hoping to get a pre-order date of some kind in the near future, but if anything else they should be on the shelves by August 18th +/-.
Couple questions about environment...
1. I know temp must be entered manually (unless coupled w/ a garmin tempe sensor), what about humidity?
2. Can density altitude be entered instead?
3. Are changes to wind values applied to all targets on the databoard?
Hey Doc, where's this gizmo at!?
1) Humidity is Manual. It makes very little difference inside of 1500 yards.
2) No.
3) Yes, in the current version.
Couple questions about environment...
1. I know temp must be entered manually (unless coupled w/ a garmin tempe sensor), what about humidity?
2. Can density altitude be entered instead?
3. Are changes to wind values applied to all targets on the databoard?
They are building stock, once enough of them are in they will release them.
Thanks Doc, #3 was the most important item - ordered.
In Hand.
Any "tips" for the software? My GF701 AB will not line up with my kestrel (which is proven data) which lines up with my 2400. After doing a ballistic calculation based on kestrel supplied and proven data, was getting impacts at 1000yds. Ran it out to 1300 and the 701 was off again. Hard for me to understand how there is so much variation (.4mils) at a 1000yds using mirror image profiles from one AB platform to the next.
In Hand.
Any "tips" for the software? My GF701 AB will not line up with my kestrel (which is proven data) which lines up with my 2400. After doing a ballistic calculation based on kestrel supplied and proven data, was getting impacts at 1000yds. Ran it out to 1300 and the 701 was off again. Hard for me to understand how there is so much variation (.4mils) at a 1000yds using mirror image profiles from one AB platform to the next.
So it can store 10 targets? How long does it take to load a set of targets without a keyboard?
It would be awesome to be able to load and name stages, with however many targets there are for each stage.
At big matches you usually get a match book the night before with all target distances listed with the stage description. It would be awesome if the night before you could load all the stages in the unit with the individual ranges for each target within the stage.
That way next morning, you get assigned your starting stage, you pull it up in the unit, update your weather data and bingo, there's every target for that stage and their firing solutions.
It would be really cool if after the stage you could plug in your score for review later.
Just thinking out loud.
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I have noted your suggestion, if you would like to see changes to this product, I highly suggest letting the manufacturer know.
Is the limit of 10 targets on Garmins end or AB, more would be useful. For others looking the Tempe sensor is about $30, works great, supposed to read 10M from unit and I keep it with my ammo in pouch or box that usually keeps it out of sunlight.
What’s the impact on the Garmin battery life while connected to the Temp sensor? I know the sensor lasts a year but what’s the hit on the main unit?
Any updates on availability? Just went to the AB site and doesn't appear to be for sale yet?
Negligible. The main impact is the GPS settings.
Edited: OK, looks like I got the inconsistencies worked out for the most part. So I'll take it out to the range tomorrow to verify my drop data.
I am curious as to why they elected to remove DA input since 99% of the people using the device use DA to input atmospherics. I get a noticeable difference between entering DA as opposed to using temp, alt, pressure and humidity separately.
Edited: OK, looks like I got the inconsistencies worked out for the most part. So I'll take it out to the range tomorrow to verify my drop data.
I am curious as to why they elected to remove DA input since 99% of the people using the device use DA to input atmospherics. I get a noticeable difference between entering DA as opposed to using temp, alt, pressure and humidity separately.
Can you turn off the GPS altogether
No, however you can put it into UltraTrac mode. Which nearly doubles battery life.
We just got these in stock, I plan to play with one this weekend to see how it works !
Just sold my 5700 to pick one of these up. I hope this thing produces accurate data with minimal inputs from outside resources (Kestrel for wind values, etc).
Just to fully understand, a guy should be operatable with the Foretrex 701 and Tempe sensor correct? Only other variable is wind speed and direction that have to be manually put in as far as environmentals?
Humidity as well from what I’ve gathered. If you feel you need it.
Leave that at 50% and forget about it.
So it can store 10 targets? How long does it take to load a set of targets without a keyboard?
It would be awesome to be able to load and name stages, with however many targets there are for each stage.
At big matches you usually get a match book the night before with all target distances listed with the stage description. It would be awesome if the night before you could load all the stages in the unit with the individual ranges for each target within the stage.
That way next morning, you get assigned your starting stage, you pull it up in the unit, update your weather data and bingo, there's every target for that stage and their firing solutions.
It would be really cool if after the stage you could plug in your score for review later.
Just thinking out loud.
I’ve noticed multiple websites claim extended battery life above and beyond UltraTrac mode when in “Watch Mode”. Is this not an option?
Also the manual states that in Demo Mode the GPS is off. Does Demo Mode affect device functionality in any way other than what is to be expected when no GPS input is present? I’m hoping the Demo Mode doesn’t just flash a bunch of screens to show what it can do and make the unit useless.
Just sold my 5700 to pick one of these up. I hope this thing produces accurate data with minimal inputs from outside resources (Kestrel for wind values, etc).
Just to fully understand, a guy should be operatable with the Foretrex 701 and Tempe sensor correct? Only other variable is wind speed and direction that have to be manually put in as far as environmentals?
Correct, however it is important to update the direction of fire, range to the target, and the latitude of the shooter. But you can turn off Coriolis, aerodynamic jump, and spin drift individually if you wish.
I'm sure it'll all make sense once I have the unit in hand, but what's the difference between direction of fire and latitude of shooter?
I guess I'm a little confused as to why I have to input my latitude and longitude into a gps device?
Direction of fire or shooting an azimuth makes sense for manual input...
Well if you have the gps turned on you probably won’t have to worry about your latitude. But if you follow the thread I think Doc was following along the lines of how to save battery and he had suggested turning GPS off. I think he was adding to that.