Rifle Scopes New high power Nightforce NX8?

[5RWill]

Magnification ring moves independent of the eyepiece, NF is literally pulling out all the stops

 

[B-P-UU]

Magnification ring moves independent of the eyepiece, NF is literally pulling out all the stops

NXS line reuse.. looks to be the same.

 

[5RWill]

NXS line reuse.. looks to be the same.

Does the mag ring turn independently on the NXS? Just watched their live instagram video and it doesn't on the NX8 which is a huge plus for me.

 

[Bandit31]

Does the mag ring turn independently on the NXS? Just watched their live instagram video and it doesn't on the NX8 which is a huge plus for me.

I don't recall on the NSX but on the NSX F1 it doesn't move independent.

 

[Yama Arashi]

So to confirm:

4-32 x 50 F1 - 13.5"- 90 minutes (26.2 MILs) of travel - $2150
2.5-20 x 50 F1 - 12" - 110 minutes (32 MILs) of travel - $1950

Both scopes:
28oz. weight
ED glass - but from what I'm told it's not *quite* ATACR level, but far better than NXS
10m to infinity parallax
Digillum illumination - red & green
Zerostop and Capped windage
Mag ring moves independently (same with the NX8 1-8x F1 - entire ocular moves on the ATACR 1-8x F1)

 

[big_matt_duq]

So do both weigh 28 oz? cant see the specs in the new Instagram one?

 

[Yama Arashi]

So do both weigh 28 oz? cant see the specs in the new Instagram one?

Their official spec photos suck - both are 28oz

 

[big_matt_duq]

I also really want to see reticle pics on low mag. I may need one of each of these.

 

[lennyo3034]

Mil-XT reticle? Or just Mil-C?

 

[5RWill]

Mil-XT reticle? Or just Mil-C?

Just Mil-C for now though lots of us speculate Mil-XT wont be offered to keep from undercutting the ATACR lineup.

 

[Reload10]

Just Mil-C for now though lots of us speculate Mil-XT wont be offered to keep from undercutting the ATACR lineup.

Sure does look like mil-xt is in the specs as a reticle offered.

 

[Yama Arashi]

MOAR, MIL-C, MIL-XT, Tremor3

Will confirm

 

[5RWill]

Sure does look like mil-xt is in the specs as a reticle offered.

I stand corrected then i couldn't see with the blurry pics that is awesome though.

 

[B-P-UU]

Does the mag ring turn independently on the NXS? Just watched their live instagram video and it doesn't on the NX8 which is a huge plus for me.

Yes, independent. Entire ocular rotates on ATACR (which I prefer.. looks like our votes cancel each other)

 

[Crews]

I can’t tell or haven’t looked hard enough... is there illumination for the reticle at this MSRP?

 

[Bandit31]

I can’t tell or haven’t looked hard enough... is there illumination for the reticle at this MSRP?

Yes

 

[Ravenous]

Pulled from their IG

 

[Yama Arashi]

Initial reticle offerings will be MOAR and MIL-C

 

[Ravenous]

Initial reticle offerings will be MOAR and MIL-C

Dealer orders within the next few weeks, with targeted first deliveries starting late June

Hopefully they don't delay too long on the MIL-XT release.

 

[PFG]

I wonder what weight is added by keeping illumination.

Like if NF offered the 2-20 in Non-illuminated, would it be a 26oz scope? 24? No change?

 

[ChrisAU]

So do we think these FFP reticles in an 8x zoom scope will be usable at all for hunting?

 

[ChrisAU]

Why would it not be?

We are thinking a reticle that won’t cover too much of a target for precision shooting at 32x will be able to be seen at 4x in a FFP scope? I really hope so I just don’t see how they can.

 

[lennyo3034]

Highly unlikely without illumination.

There is nothing in these reticles to bring the eye to the center at low power. Thats why I'm hesitating replacing my LRHS with one until the review come out. But I most likely will because it does have illumination.

 

[trob_205]

Can anyone confirm elevation adjustment for these? Those pics are shotty AF lol

 

[spife7980]

They said in the original article the scopes had daylight bright illumination to combat this.

Are you actually telling me though you’re taking shots at x32 power when hunting?

No. He’s saying he wants to be able to see the reticle at 4x and anything that’s not obstructive at 32 will be crazy tiny at 4. As you say illumination will help with that.

 

[swage2712]

If the resolution is anywhere closed to the 7-35, I will own many of the 4-32's. My guess is at the price point vs features, they had to compromise somewhere and the glass is a likely place to start.

 

[5RWill]

If the resolution is anywhere closed to the 7-35, I will own many of the 4-32's. My guess is at the price point vs features, they had to compromise somewhere and the glass is a likely place to start.

Most likely but id also venture to guess 32x given the design isn't going to be anything like 25x or 35x on the ATACRs.

 

[trob_205]

If the resolution is anywhere closed to the 7-35, I will own many of the 4-32's. My guess is at the price point vs features, they had to compromise somewhere and the glass is a likely place to start.

I’ll be interested to see by how much. Been contemplating on trying to loose some weight on the AIAX by replacing the razor Gen 2 but definitely don’t wanna downgrade in glass. My eyes are on both for sure.

 

[ChrisAU]

No. He’s saying he wants to be able to see the reticle at 4x and anything that’s not obstructive at 32 will be crazy tiny at 4. As you say illumination will help with that.

Yep. And part of me says it won’t be a big deal, because I worry about walking shots in poor light with this reticle. Well, I shouldn’t be walking in or out in legal light. So if I can remember to turn illumination on the first half hour and last half hour it shouldn’t be an issue. But I feel like it will be, and I don’t want to have to rely on a battery for those shots is all. I’m sure I’m blowing it out of proportion but this argument happens with 3x/4x zoom FFP scopes. I don’t see how it can be anything but much much worse with an 8x scope. I really hope these new NF’s prove me wrong!

 

[hertz654]

Highly unlikely without illumination.

There is nothing in these reticles to bring the eye to the center at low power. Thats why I'm hesitating replacing my LRHS with one until the review come out. But I most likely will because it does have illumination.

this is the reason I' looking to change the scope on my RPR in 243Win; the H59 reticle in my burris Xtr2 disappears in low-light on 4x (and my illumination does not seem to work)

 

[gs98]

 

[Yama Arashi]

I don't have any direct comparison photos, but I'm assuming they modified the reticle sizes to some extent for such a broad magnification range.

After having looked through them, they seemed just as usable on the lowest magnification setting as these MIL-R illuminated examples on 4x.

 

[DrainTheSwamp]

10 Mils per rev?

 

[Yama Arashi]

The floor examples I saw were in MOA with 20MOA turrets.

The 'glamour shots' they have posted do appear to show 10MIL turrets.

 

[big_matt_duq]

I don't have any direct comparison photos, but I'm assuming they modified the reticle sizes to some extent for such a broad magnification range.

After having looked through them, they seemed just as usable on the lowest magnification setting as these MIL-R illuminated examples on 4x.

Aare these pics through one of the new nx8s?

 

[trob_205]

The FOV and internal travel seems quite impressive for the x2.5-20. This keeps getting better.

It does really does. I’m excited to hear and see what people think of them once they get them. I’m looking to loose some weight on my AX to make it more hunter friendly and this could be the ticket (Gen 2 Razor now). It’ll all depends on image quality because it’s checking all the boxes right now.

 

[Jibnast]

I just saw USO has a 2.5-20 coming out in their TS series. Which means it could be in the same price range maybe a little lower.

 

[plong]

I just saw USO has a 2.5-20 coming out in their TS series. Which means it could be in the same price range maybe a little lower.

China... No?

 

[Kickin45]

China... No?

Asia for sure, not sure if China Philippines

 

[PFG]

This scope appears, on paper, to be a strong competitor to my LRHS.

I just can’t help but like the G2H reticle better than anything NF is offering on these.

 

[lash]

This scope appears, on paper, to be a strong competitor to my LRHS.

I just can’t help but like the G2H reticle better than anything NF is offering on these.

While I agree, especially for hunting, I would like something a bit more refined for my long range AR. This is definitely the right combo of power, weight and size for me. I just don’t hav a new scope in the budget this year. I shall see...

 

[lennyo3034]

Right now I have a 3-12 LRHS, 3-24x42 March, and 3-24x52 March and depending on how initial reviews are, all could potentially be replaced by these.

Weight and reticle is what’s holding me back from replacing the LRHS and glass for the other two. Will have to wait and see when they come out.

 

[Moose]

Found this pic of NX8 scopes.I might want one for a rimfire.At 12" and 28oz I'm interested.

 

[b6graham]

Who do I talk to about pre ordering a 2.5-20 in mil C?

@CSTactical

 

[gr8fuldoug]

Who do I talk to about pre ordering a 2.5-20 in mil C?

It is our pleasure to work with you on this.
Please give us a call and we will get you all set
Doug
516-217-1000

 

[parshal]

ED glass - but from what I'm told it's not *quite* ATACR level, but far better than NXS

I called NF today to ask about a reticle change for my ATACR's. Apparently, they're no longer offering that service. :-(

But, I asked about these scopes. The guy said it's the exact same glass as the ATACR. That's great if it's true.

These scopes fit all my needs and wants with the exception of the low profile elevation turret. I hate the tall turret on my hunting rifles. They just get in the way on a pack and maneuvering.

 

[cleric]

I called NF today to ask about a reticle change for my ATACR's. Apparently, they're no longer offering that service. :-(

But, I asked about these scopes. The guy said it's the exact same glass as the ATACR. That's great if it's true.

These scopes fit all my needs and wants with the exception of the low profile elevation turret. I hate the tall turret on my hunting rifles. They just get in the way on a pack and maneuvering.

Then why buy an atacr?

 

[koshkin]

Then why buy an atacr?

"Same glass" means absolutely nothing. That's what marketing people say when they need to give a vague answer.

I suspect ATACR is a better optimized system design.

Ilya

 

[b6graham]

"Same glass" means absolutely nothing. That's what marketing people say when they need to give a vague answer.

I suspect ATACR is a better optimized system design.

Ilya

ilya has it right.

glass okay it's a good starting point. but theres way more to the system than just the glass itself. coatings numer of elements etc especially when you get smaller and lighter and shorter, and with an 8x erector

look at the kahles or eotech vodoo scopes. they didnt changes the glass but other things to make the CA go away

 

[JMS904]

I feel like a child anticipating Christmas.