P5L.....30x at 2000yds...
SB really messed up with the p5 imo. They have the lrr which is awesome with .2 and .1 wind holds on the main stadia....then they decided to go all .5 on the main stadia in the p5 which I don't get....
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P5L.....30x at 2000yds...
I actually LOVE this reticle...SB really messed up with the p5 imo. They have the lrr which is awesome with .2 and .1 wind holds on the main stadia....then they decided to go all .5 on the main stadia in the p5 which I don't get....
I actually LOVE this reticle...
Over time i have had many tree based reticles...i also have the S&B with the Gri2d reticle. Since doing more and more ELR, i have come to appreciate a more "simple" but functional reticle.I like half mil hash-marks as it allows the reticle to be more open as I shoot small furry things that are the same color as the terrain.
However, I’m not trying to be provocative (looks like @Huskydriver has also posted as I type this), but I am just curious.
Many people hate 0.5 mil hashes on reticles. They’ve ragged endlessly upon the EBR-2c and TMR etc. They say prefer 0.2 mil hashes instead.
And then the P5L appears and lots of people come out of the woodwork to say they like it?
Yes, we agree. That’s why I like 1/2mil hash reticles. But I like tree reticles for wind holds, and the 0.2mil dots on the trees don’t seem to bug me too much.Spotting misses at ELR distances is VERY VERY hard with the GR2ID
I guess the center section (first Mil in each direction) is dashed in such away you have. 2mil holds.I like half mil hash-marks as it allows the reticle to be more open as I shoot small furry things that are the same color as the terrain.
However, I’m not trying to be provocative (looks like @Huskydriver has also posted as I type this), but I am just curious.
Many people hate 0.5 mil hashes on reticles. They’ve ragged endlessly upon the EBR-2c and TMR etc. They say prefer 0.2 mil hashes instead.
And then the P5L appears and lots of people come out of the woodwork to say they like it?
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A bit too busy for my tasteGri2d ...30x at 1200yds..
P5FL?I just got mine. Looking forward to getting some time behind it. 0,5 cm clicks.
Yes, correct.P5FL?
Hoping SB adds the lrr to the 636... Seriously makes 0 sense why they didn't
Interesting you got a gen 2 turret with no rev pins.Yes, correct.
I agree not having the lrr in the 636 was dumbI contacted SuB a while back about reticle options, specifically asked about getting the LRR-mil or the new M1FL. They will not offer other reticles than GR2ID and P5FL, but, if demand increases they might.
So shoot them an email or talk to your dealer about it.
The GR2ID is a good reticle for its intended use, but with high magnification scope like this it gets a little busy above 20x
While I'm not a big fan of the LRR I also agree it should have been available in 6-36 (I am going to assume this reticle has not been a big seller for them???), but I also would like to see a Gen3 XR style reticle show up for Schmidt, they struggle with getting a usable tree reticle IMHO - GR2ID is too busy for some even though the dots are tiny, it's like a Horus "light" .I agree not having the lrr in the 636 was dumb
Hideous oversight not to include in the 5-20, but I’m not paying what they want for 5-20US these days anyway.I wish the GR2ID was available in the 5-20x. I'm now preferring it over the H59.
Hideous oversight not to include in the 5-20, but I’m not paying what they want for 5-20US these days anyway.
Love it, thanks!S&B 6-36 has better edge to edge AND overall clarity than the ZCO 5-27.. Very usable right up to 36x ...
Right but you have the non-neutered versionS&B 6-36 has better edge to edge AND overall clarity than the ZCO 5-27.. Very usable right up to 36x ...
Neutered USA version may be even better, same optical formula but with a field stop that cuts out twenty some odd percent of the FOV, so if Au version is that good edge to edge the USA version may even be better as most scopes tend to struggle with sharpness at the outer periphery.Right but you have the non-neutered version
Stop making my decision harderNeutered USA version may be even better, same optical formula but with a field stop that cuts out twenty some odd percent of the FOV, so if Au version is that good edge to edge the USA version may even be better as most scopes tend to struggle with sharpness at the outer periphery.
In lieu of early reports on the Schmidt 6-36 and my own experience with the Razor 6-36 I would say these newer 6x designs hold up surprisingly well compared to the previous 5x design. I do not think they are a step back in IQ but in fact a step forward. At some point I will get my hands on the Schmidt but until then I have no reason to doubt the very credible sources Ive communicated with about this scope and unless they have all really messed up the configuration of their TT’s and ZCO’s it certainly appears the Schmidt is holding its own, if not surpassing, these alpha class juggernauts.At this point the 6-36 range is very enticing but I don't want to go backwards in image quality to gain some magnification, especially giving up a little elevation adjustment.
But does the field stop cause you to see more of the black ring around the image and give the impression of tunneling?Neutered USA version may be even better, same optical formula but with a field stop that cuts out twenty some odd percent of the FOV, so if Au version is that good edge to edge the USA version may even be better as most scopes tend to struggle with sharpness at the outer periphery.
I can say with confidence, no. Having looked through the US FOV version. There is no tunneling effect whatsoever.But does the field stop cause you to see more of the black ring around the image and give the impression of tunneling?
It might have to do with the way the illumination is designed.Hoping SB adds the lrr to the 636... Seriously makes 0 sense why they didn't
LRR reticle is ultra thin, so it relies on illumination for visibility. Illumination on it is diffractive to make thin lines look brightly lit, so it is a different type of a reticle cell.It might have to do with the way the illumination is designed.
I know that they can't swap reticles if you have the LRR, or if you want to get the LRR because the illumination is daylight bright, unlike their other reticles.
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Thats actually now worth it at that price.
Thats actually now worth it at that price.
i think they dropped the price on the 5-25s too.It is odd that it appears to only be the 636 with lowered pricing... wtf would you pay more for a 525 with older style turrets lol.... I swear SB has some marketing intern from Clark county community college running their pricing strategy
i think they dropped the price on the 5-25s too.
Is there a definitive answer yet on whether the new ones tunnel?