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New Sig CROSS
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Here’s my sample size of one. Bolt guns are not my area of expertise.
I purchased a .308 Cross last weekend and mounted a Vortex LHT 4.5-22 in Nightforce rings. My use for this rifle will be hunting, specifically having purchased to tote in Colorado this fall on a Mule deer hunt.
I did not have the rail alignment issues that others have. After mounting, boresighting and zeroing, I only had to dial .6 mils of windage to get to a rough zero.
The two loads it seems to favor currently are 175gr Gold Medal Match and the cheap 150gr Winchester Deer Season.
Some observations. This gun is VERY easy to throw a shot with due to it’s weight. Any misapplication of the fundamentals results in a flyer. Clean shots grouped very consistently for me and all fliers were called.
Getting the gun bagged in like my other bolt guns is more of a challenge due to the weight of the gun and the narrow contact surfaces. Any tips/tricks to lock the gun in better would be appreciated. I normally run a front bag/rest and a rear rice sock.
(Side note, this is the first rifle I’ve been able to observe my pulse with and I don’t notice it with my other rifles)
These are solely user related issues and boils down to me adapting to the the rifle. I equate it to the difference between shooting a full size pistol and a sub-compact. The sub-compact pistol isn’t inherently less accurate the full size, but the shorter length and sight radius make errors in fundamentals much more observable.
Eventually, she’s going to get a brake and a can but here is how she sits right now and a few of the groups I’ve shot. The 168gr Hornady group is 6 shots with two fliers.
Overall I’m very pleased with the rifle and I feel it will do exactly what I want and serve as a lightweight handy rifle that won’t crush me toting it around between 8500-10k ft.
I purchased a .308 Cross last weekend and mounted a Vortex LHT 4.5-22 in Nightforce rings. My use for this rifle will be hunting, specifically having purchased to tote in Colorado this fall on a Mule deer hunt.
I did not have the rail alignment issues that others have. After mounting, boresighting and zeroing, I only had to dial .6 mils of windage to get to a rough zero.
The two loads it seems to favor currently are 175gr Gold Medal Match and the cheap 150gr Winchester Deer Season.
Some observations. This gun is VERY easy to throw a shot with due to it’s weight. Any misapplication of the fundamentals results in a flyer. Clean shots grouped very consistently for me and all fliers were called.
Getting the gun bagged in like my other bolt guns is more of a challenge due to the weight of the gun and the narrow contact surfaces. Any tips/tricks to lock the gun in better would be appreciated. I normally run a front bag/rest and a rear rice sock.
(Side note, this is the first rifle I’ve been able to observe my pulse with and I don’t notice it with my other rifles)
These are solely user related issues and boils down to me adapting to the the rifle. I equate it to the difference between shooting a full size pistol and a sub-compact. The sub-compact pistol isn’t inherently less accurate the full size, but the shorter length and sight radius make errors in fundamentals much more observable.
Eventually, she’s going to get a brake and a can but here is how she sits right now and a few of the groups I’ve shot. The 168gr Hornady group is 6 shots with two fliers.
Overall I’m very pleased with the rifle and I feel it will do exactly what I want and serve as a lightweight handy rifle that won’t crush me toting it around between 8500-10k ft.
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I glade finally others noticing this miss alignment issue in the rail T slots cuts
Sig solution I was offered is they want me to send back the complete rifle to be checked by their experts
I hope soon after market rails starts to come out and hopefully made of steel not cheap aluminum
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The handguard is half the reason I sold mine. Touching aluminum when you're hunting sucks during most hunting seasons.
It doesn't add much weight to go with some M-Lok rail panels from Centurion Arms. They're slim and grippy, plus not so cold in the winter.
Looks good! I went with the same straight ergo grip on mine.
I also run this in the most recent NRL Hunter match in Laramie and it did well in dealing with the dirt and dust that was blowing around.
Scooped up the B&T monopod for the Sig, setup is complete for now.
Sig mentions in this video that the max chamber pressure for the military version of the 277 fury is 120k lbs. Wow.... this will give reloaders a major range to play with. sounds like a barrel burner too. Wonder what max speed can get to... 3800? 4000+.... sounds dangerous.
Sneak Peek - SIG CROSS PRS | Soldier Systems Daily
Attendees at this weekend's SIG Freedom Days in Phoenix got the chance to check out the upcoming CROSS PRS built for out-of-the-box competition use. SI ...
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Some folks are working on it. Schnees guys supposedly have a prototype.
We have some 3d printed mock ups, doing some legwork in working prototypes now. stay tuned
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You guys will most likely beat sig at their own game.
Sig announces "Cross PRS" rifle model: https://www.sigsauer.com/cross-prs....PRS_Launch&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua
You tube video:
CROSS-PRS: Match Grade Features Tuned for Precision AccuracyThe CROSS Rifle makes its move to the world of Competitive Shooting with the new CROSS-PRS. This latest addition to the CROSS line of bolt action rifles has been completely re-configured to meet the specific needs of long-range precision shooters. |
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| With its steel structured 14.2lb design, the CROSS-PRS distributes weight evenly, delivering a balanced feel while reducing recoil and decreasing the time it takes to get back on target. The CROSS-PRS features a folding adjustable steel stock for easy movement, heavy contour stainless 5R rifled barrel for extreme accuracy, an 18” free-floating, two-piece Arca handguard for easy connection to tripods and bipods and a precision designed grip and selector switch. The CROSS-PRS is purpose built, with all of the features needed to be an extremely capable precision long-range rifle right out of the box. |
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Maybe it's just me, but I find the original Cross to be an excellent light, short hunting rifle with great accuracy.... Once you make it long and heavier, and $1,000 more, I can't see the appeal at all vs an Origin/pre-fit or the existing PRS focused turnkey options in the same price range. Who's going to buy a PRS rifle that requires a special barrel extension that no one can reliably get, even 2 years after it came out?
I hope they still plan on putting out a long action Cross in the short and light format instead of the Cross-PRS style.
I hope they still plan on putting out a long action Cross in the short and light format instead of the Cross-PRS style.
What’s the over/under on Sig being the new “official rifle” of PRS next year?
Agree. I love my cross and have been waiting for the 277 to come out. I need this rifle to be my all around hunting rifle which the 6.5 Creedmoor doesn't do for me. It works excellent for hogs but will need a well placed shot for my elk hunts. The 277 solves this shortcoming with its ballistics. My final setup will hopefully include a 22 inch carbon barrel and then i can send it out to get a paintjob. i cant wait to reload the 277 with a max chamber pressure of 120k ft lbs.
The cross would have been a home run with a mag bolt face and chambered in 6.5prc with a 20" barrel
Here is the link if your looking for that titanium printed grip for the cross that some people have been posting pics of.
scoutearms.com
Titanium Pistol Grips
These grips at 3D printed out of ultralight Titanium and are extremely rigid and durable. At 0.9oz. These are the lightest pistol grips on the market and are compatible with any platform that accepts AR style pistol grips!
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And here is the carbon one
www.smokecomposites.com
smokecomposites|GRIPS
Carbon Fiber Ultralight Pistol Grips are our first design and the lightest available.
www.smokecomposites.com
The big appeal for me on this model is for the ability of it to meet the factory class in the International Precision Rifle Competition. They require the factory rifle to be made entirely by a single mainstream manufacturer (chassis, action, trigger, and barrel). Most PRS production rifles use aftermarket triggers and chassis/stocks and are disqualified. I have 2.5 months to find a rifle before the world championship in France so this model is on my short list.
Ummm the cross barrels already have the tapered shoulder so you don’t need the adapter between the cherry bomb and muzzle…but yes it’s not the most efficient.
I threw a cherry bomb on mine as well... I will second that it doesn’t do anything for recoil.
Considered buying one today...
Really went and felt it out
1. The magazine release SUCKS. I really really don't want to put my finger inside the trigger guard to release the mag. Who thought this was a good idea? At least make an extended one that goes outside of the trigger guard. I get for hunting you don't want an unintended activation, but IDK, seems like it needs a solution to me.
2. The unfold button for the stock either requires some swing technique I don't know, or, it's a prime canidate to pinch the crap out of fingers or something. It's not great and I expect a revision at some point.
Other than that, looks good to me, but I just really doubt SIG's ability to wise up and ship extensions and other bolt heads to who ever wants them and really support the product. Which is nuts to be because it's instant money.
Oh, well.... 3. I want a SIG Cross SBR. 12" 308 or 8" 300blk. And I would absolutely consider doing a Form1 on one, if SIG would reasonably support the gun.
Really went and felt it out
1. The magazine release SUCKS. I really really don't want to put my finger inside the trigger guard to release the mag. Who thought this was a good idea? At least make an extended one that goes outside of the trigger guard. I get for hunting you don't want an unintended activation, but IDK, seems like it needs a solution to me.
2. The unfold button for the stock either requires some swing technique I don't know, or, it's a prime canidate to pinch the crap out of fingers or something. It's not great and I expect a revision at some point.
Other than that, looks good to me, but I just really doubt SIG's ability to wise up and ship extensions and other bolt heads to who ever wants them and really support the product. Which is nuts to be because it's instant money.
Oh, well.... 3. I want a SIG Cross SBR. 12" 308 or 8" 300blk. And I would absolutely consider doing a Form1 on one, if SIG would reasonably support the gun.
You can definitely have option 3…for now but in its current 16” configuration the 308 with 168gr tipped MkZ’s is safely pushing 2650 fps and staying supersonic passed 1,000y easily…but that’s not what I’m using it for. I don’t really see the mag release location being an issue unless you’ve got obese fingers and are accident prone or super shaky in that case you’ve got no business being around firearms anyways
The mag release location was actually a great idea for hunters…who are the primary target customers. As for the hinge design…it could have been better designed but I’m pretty sure someone will start making aftermarket parts soon enough. It’s really a simple mechanism that can be made by any machine shop that’s willing to entertain the idea. There’s already 2 manufacturers turning barrels for them. I should know I ordered a 6mmGT from one of them. The bolt face can be sleeved and a Sako style extractor can be installed…if you wanted it that badly. Not to mention…it shoots well for me. I think it’s a great addition to Sig’s lineup just simply because it’s not another action bolted into a chassis.Attachments
Always thought the stock hinge was easy, simply plant your thumb on top and 4 graspers underneath and squeeze.
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#1 I would say the mag release is perfect for hunting. Any larger or outside the trigger guard and you risk having something release it for you while your hunting.
#2 the hinge definitely could be better, but it's not that bad.
we're going to be testing the 8.6blk in one of our rigs soon. goal being to have a 12" one soon.
Definitely agree on #1, the mag release is perfect the way it is, within the confines of AICS mag functionality; nothing to snag, difficult to accidentally actuate in use. I haven't personally had any issues with the hinge.
I had the cross at the range Monday trying a 143gr ELDX load that I had worked up quickly out at 300 yds and 500 yds in comparison to my established 130gr TGK load.
Five each, 143gr on the left and 130gr on the right, same hold dead on the 300 yd stadia.
Last 3 143gr loads @ 500 yds
130gr TGK @ 500 yds
I'm pretty happy with the results from a light-ish hunting rifle with hunting bullets on a bipod (bag in back) using a BCD holdover reticle in a 2-10x scope. The reticle only has holdovers out to 400 yds (as far as I intend to hunt with it), so I actually had to hold on the hanger bar at 500. The 143gr has more vertical than the 130gr, might tune it some more or just call it good for the ranges I'll use it for.
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I got around the stock hinge by setting it up as a left hand fold. When slung, I can depress the button with the heel of my left hand and simultaneously press down on the stock. Folds up pretty quick.
Those look good. I got my .308 out to 600 this past weekend. She was throwing the 175gr Federal GMM really well. 700 was a wash, cause the wind was all over the place and the round was outta gas and getting pushed around, but out to six she was surgical. I’m really happy with it, because I won’t be shooting at any animals past 400 anyways.
nope, hard passing on the 3 twist. just not necessary imo. testing a 6 twist which will work very will with a wide array of bullets/weights. will report back on it as we do some testing.
