Night Vision Night vision rated for high power??

[drwoodyash]

New to forum. Trying to find a night vision device that would hold up in front of a high powered scope on a 300 ultra mag or at least a 260. I have read all the posts and seems the common units around $4,000 AREN'T RATED FOR anything more than a 223. I'm new to long range shooting, but plan to learn on hogs at night and deer in daytime as well as paper . Power line shooting up to 600-700 yds. I have an AR, but want to learn on a more powerful cartridge. Scope is a NF 5x22. Anything out there under $10,000? Thanks for your help.
Woody

 

[deersniper]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??

I think the PVS 22 and 27s are G2G

 

[cj7hawk]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??


The problem isn't the housing mostly, it's the tube and you can get higher-spec tubes designed to handle the recoil.

700 Yds? You need a WASP and I don't think they are available yet. I would suggest a D760 ( http://www.tnvc.com/shop/d-760-6x-gen3-pinnacle-night-vision-rifle-scope/ ) or Raptor 6x ( http://www.tnvc.com/shop/m646-6x-raptor-gen3-night-vision-rifle-scope/ ) with a recoil rated tube.

Also, you should have no problems with something like an AN/PVS-27 which is designed for long range, higher caliber use, but won't have the resolution of a dedicated scope.
http://www.tnvc.com/shop/muns-anpvs-27-magnum-universal-night-sight/

Regards
David

 

[drwoodyash]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??

THanks, David. I will make some calls during business hours. Looking at some other sites, I'm seeing prices advertised from $5500 to over $11,000 for the PVS-27. Biggest problem I see is the websites only will sell to military or LE. I am A Vet, but I'm the kind that works on horses and dogs, so I doubt I qualify for one of these high end units. I do appreciate your help.
Woody

Thanks to deersniper, too. Be safe.

 

[utahm35a2]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??

I would agree with David I have a pvs/27 and have used it next to a friends raptor 6 he does have a clearer image but I love the ability to use my day scope and move it from one host to another.

 

[drwoodyash]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??

That's the reason I'm more interested in the PVS 27. But the question remains, can a civilian like myself legally purchase one?

 

[j-huskey]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: drwoodyash</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's the reason I'm more interested in the PVS 27. But the question remains, can a civilian like myself legally purchase one? </div></div>

You should, I know several civilians that do. If there has been a law change, Victor of TNVC should be able to clarify that here.

 

[j-huskey]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: utahm35a2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I would agree with David I have a pvs/27 and have used it next to a friends raptor 6 he does have a clearer image but I love the ability to use my day scope and move it from one host to another. </div></div>

My question would be (for everybody's information on the board), OK so his is clearer, but can he dial up his scope to 700 yards and get hits like you can with the NXS, and can he return to zero (repeatedly)?

 

[deersniper]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jhuskey</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: utahm35a2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I would agree with David I have a pvs/27 and have used it next to a friends raptor 6 he does have a clearer image but I love the ability to use my day scope and move it from one host to another. </div></div>

My question would be (for everybody's information on the board), OK so his is clearer, but can he dial up his scope to 700 yards and get hits like you can with the NXS, and can he return to zero (repeatedly)? </div></div>

That's what I wonder too. Its hard enough to get a repeatable day scope.

 

[Victor-TNVC]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??

There are no restrictions with us selling PVS-22's or 27's.

Approx. 2 years ago the 27's were restricted because of supply and demand, but today none whatsoever except for ITAR.

As for return to zero...There are no zero issues, (none) moving 22's or 27's from one gun to another or putting them back on or off a particular weapon platform.

Vic

 

[j-huskey]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Victor-TNVC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are no restrictions with us selling PVS-22's or 27's.

Approx. 2 years ago the 27's were restricted because of supply and demand, but today none whatsoever except for ITAR.

As for return to zero...There are no zero issues, (none) moving 22's or 27's from one gun to another or putting them back on or off a particular weapon platform.

Vic </div></div>

Vic, the question was about the Raptor's ability to run the MOA up and back for zeroes, like you can with the NXS, 100 zero, dial for 700, dial back to 100.

There was no question about the 22/27's ability.

 

[Victor-TNVC]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jhuskey</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Victor-TNVC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are no restrictions with us selling PVS-22's or 27's.

Approx. 2 years ago the 27's were restricted because of supply and demand, but today none whatsoever except for ITAR.

As for return to zero...There are no zero issues, (none) moving 22's or 27's from one gun to another or putting them back on or off a particular weapon platform.

Vic </div></div>

Vic, the question was about the Raptor's ability to run the MOA up and back for zeroes, like you can with the NXS, 100 zero, dial for 700, dial back to 100.

There was no question about the 22/27's ability. </div></div>

Sorry, should have read more carefully!

As for the Raptor, I have only shot 500 yards and have no issues with dialing my up or down dopes. Not shot to 700, a bit hard for me at 6x with a small target. Hope this helps.

Vic

 

[jdh4376]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??

Go with a d760agm .It is rated for using on calibers up to 50bmg.

 

[IR-V]

Re: Night vision rated for high power??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: drwoodyash</div><div class="ubbcode-body">New to forum. Trying to find a night vision device that would hold up in front of a high powered scope on a 300 ultra mag or at least a 260. I have read all the posts and seems the common units around $4,000 AREN'T RATED FOR anything more than a 223. I'm new to long range shooting, but plan to learn on hogs at night and deer in daytime as well as paper . Power line shooting up to 600-700 yds. I have an AR, but want to learn on a more powerful cartridge. Scope is a NF 5x22. Anything out there under $10,000? Thanks for your help.
Woody </div></div>

The Raptor 4x, Raptor 6x, D760, PVS-22, and PVS-27 can all handle recoil from long distance rifle cartridges such as .300 WIN MAG, .338 LAPUA MAG, and above. If considering a Raptor, be certain to acquire a more recently manufactured unit. I've experienced problems with earlier Raptor models not holding zero on .338 LM, but more recently mfg. units seem to have the problem fixed. All of the dedicated and clip-on scopes listed in the first sentence are less than $10K, except for the PVS-27 which can be had for a grand or two more.

The PVS-22 and -27 are "clip-on" scopes that can be used in front of your fixed or variable power day scope (objective lens). The Raptor 4x and 6x are dedicated, fixed-power NV scopes with built-in, illuminated, aiming reticles.

No matter what you're shooting, it is important to be able to positively identify your targets and their discriminating details. Under low light conditions, the ability to resolve details on distant targets becomes more challenging for various reasons pertaining to the physics of scope lens systems. Specifically, as the magnification goes up, the amount of light transmitted through the lens system decreases, giving a darker and lower resolution image. The PVS-22 gives optimum resolution up to 6x - 8x if used with a day scope with high light transmission. The PVS-27 gives optimum resolution up to 10x - 12x if used with a day scope with high light transmission.

In my personal opinion, 6x magnification is optimum for *daytime* shooting out to 300 yards. In my experience, with 6x -- with the "best glass" and GEN 3 light intensification under "no moon or heavy cloud cover," night time viewing conditions, and without additional illumination -- the equivalent subjective resolution is cut to about 1/2 that distance (150 yards).

IR-V