Just wanted to let you guys know that after my scope was deleverd i noticed that MIL-SPEC was not engraved on the side paralx adjustment.After calling night force and fighting with them for about an hour ,it was told to me that only the Military can have the MIL-SPEC cap that you see all over the owners manual as well as advertised on every sight that has one for sale.I have to say great scope but after the scope is mounted you can not tell the diffrance as these scopes are NOT marked MIL-SPEC on the side as they were advertised. I would like to know your guys thoughts???
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Re: NIGHTFORCE ARMY SPEC F1
Does having "Mil-Spec" on the knob somehow make it better performing or just make it a better status symbol?
Does having "Mil-Spec" on the knob somehow make it better performing or just make it a better status symbol?
Re: NIGHTFORCE ARMY SPEC F1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kill_goose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does having "Mil-Spec" on the knob somehow make it better performing or just make it a better status symbol?
From a collectors stand point yes it does as i already own a 3.5x15x50 this scope was advertised as one way and it came another.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kill_goose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does having "Mil-Spec" on the knob somehow make it better performing or just make it a better status symbol?
From a collectors stand point yes it does as i already own a 3.5x15x50 this scope was advertised as one way and it came another.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fastnine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just wanted to let you guys know that after my scope was deleverd i noticed that MIL-SPEC was not engraved on the side paralx adjustment.After calling night force and fighting with them for about an hour ,it was told to me that only the Military can have the MIL-SPEC cap that you see all over the owners manual as well as advertised on every sight that has one for sale.I have to say great scope but after the scope is mounted you can not tell the diffrance as these scopes are NOT marked MIL-SPEC on the side as they were advertised. I would like to know your guys thoughts??? </div></div>
My thoughts are that you're being a twat and should probably stick to airsoft.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fastnine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just wanted to let you guys know that after my scope was deleverd i noticed that MIL-SPEC was not engraved on the side paralx adjustment.After calling night force and fighting with them for about an hour ,it was told to me that only the Military can have the MIL-SPEC cap that you see all over the owners manual as well as advertised on every sight that has one for sale.I have to say great scope but after the scope is mounted you can not tell the diffrance as these scopes are NOT marked MIL-SPEC on the side as they were advertised. I would like to know your guys thoughts??? </div></div>
My thoughts are that you're being a twat and should probably stick to airsoft.
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As long as the scope is clear,repeatable, and can stand up to use and abuse I could care less what it says on the side. In the end it is a weapon site not the girl your taking to prom.
As long as the scope is clear,repeatable, and can stand up to use and abuse I could care less what it says on the side. In the end it is a weapon site not the girl your taking to prom.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: QuietShootr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fastnine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just wanted to let you guys know that after my scope was deleverd i noticed that MIL-SPEC was not engraved on the side paralx adjustment.After calling night force and fighting with them for about an hour ,it was told to me that only the Military can have the MIL-SPEC cap that you see all over the owners manual as well as advertised on every sight that has one for sale.I have to say great scope but after the scope is mounted you can not tell the diffrance as these scopes are NOT marked MIL-SPEC on the side as they were advertised. I would like to know your guys thoughts??? </div></div>
My thoughts are that you're being a twat and should probably stick to airsoft.
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Thats funny but my REPR says otherwise its sad that you went right to the Twat LOL ok keyboard cowboy ..Its simple if it did not matter then why go threw all the trouble of packing this scope in this new MIL-SPEC box with fancy manuals if it does not matter?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: QuietShootr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fastnine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just wanted to let you guys know that after my scope was deleverd i noticed that MIL-SPEC was not engraved on the side paralx adjustment.After calling night force and fighting with them for about an hour ,it was told to me that only the Military can have the MIL-SPEC cap that you see all over the owners manual as well as advertised on every sight that has one for sale.I have to say great scope but after the scope is mounted you can not tell the diffrance as these scopes are NOT marked MIL-SPEC on the side as they were advertised. I would like to know your guys thoughts??? </div></div>
My thoughts are that you're being a twat and should probably stick to airsoft.
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Thats funny but my REPR says otherwise its sad that you went right to the Twat LOL ok keyboard cowboy ..Its simple if it did not matter then why go threw all the trouble of packing this scope in this new MIL-SPEC box with fancy manuals if it does not matter?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWILLIAMS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As long as the scope is clear,repeatable, and can stand up to use and abuse I could care less what it says on the side. In the end it is a weapon site not the girl your taking to prom. </div></div>
Noted but if you made this purchase with the understanding that it is Limited and Collectable then we have another story.Such as what I'm saying
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWILLIAMS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As long as the scope is clear,repeatable, and can stand up to use and abuse I could care less what it says on the side. In the end it is a weapon site not the girl your taking to prom. </div></div>
Noted but if you made this purchase with the understanding that it is Limited and Collectable then we have another story.Such as what I'm saying
Re: NIGHTFORCE ARMY SPEC F1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fastnine</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kill_goose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does having "Mil-Spec" on the knob somehow make it better performing or just make it a better status symbol?
From a collectors stand point yes it does as i already own a 3.5x15x50 this scope was advertised as one way and it came another.
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Is there such a thing as a milpec label? I have never seen M1-Abrams that had milspec written on the side... nor have I seen an M16 with a milspec label.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fastnine</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kill_goose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does having "Mil-Spec" on the knob somehow make it better performing or just make it a better status symbol?
From a collectors stand point yes it does as i already own a 3.5x15x50 this scope was advertised as one way and it came another.
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Is there such a thing as a milpec label? I have never seen M1-Abrams that had milspec written on the side... nor have I seen an M16 with a milspec label.
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It seems to me that you're picking a lonely hill to die on. A lot of guys, including myself, use a NF F1 and have been perfectly happy with them, whether it says Milspec or not. If you aren't happy because it doesn't have a certain engraving on it then return it or sell it and move on.
It seems to me that you're picking a lonely hill to die on. A lot of guys, including myself, use a NF F1 and have been perfectly happy with them, whether it says Milspec or not. If you aren't happy because it doesn't have a certain engraving on it then return it or sell it and move on.
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Fastnine......PM Sent
You are correct. It is mentioned in the MIL-SPEC brochure, but the scopes were not intended to be delivered that way. That totally slipped by all 10 of us in the sales office when we released that brochure. The brochure was released to support the MIL-SPEC product in the commercial market. That cap was a recent in line change to the MIL-SPEC Product line and has only been incorporated in the past few months.
The over runs are in the configuration they are being delivered in as they are the same way they were originally delivered to the Army.
This was a simple oversight on our behalf where we had literature that was newer than the product it was supporting. We apologize. It is still engraved Army-Spec F1 on the bottom of the saddle which makes it a very authentic MIL-SPEC scope. Which if you will also note, is different than what is listed in the brochure.
Fastnine......PM Sent
You are correct. It is mentioned in the MIL-SPEC brochure, but the scopes were not intended to be delivered that way. That totally slipped by all 10 of us in the sales office when we released that brochure. The brochure was released to support the MIL-SPEC product in the commercial market. That cap was a recent in line change to the MIL-SPEC Product line and has only been incorporated in the past few months.
The over runs are in the configuration they are being delivered in as they are the same way they were originally delivered to the Army.
This was a simple oversight on our behalf where we had literature that was newer than the product it was supporting. We apologize. It is still engraved Army-Spec F1 on the bottom of the saddle which makes it a very authentic MIL-SPEC scope. Which if you will also note, is different than what is listed in the brochure.
Re: NIGHTFORCE ARMY SPEC F1
Cant ask for much more than that. The ones I have seen only have the Spec on the bottom.
Cant ask for much more than that. The ones I have seen only have the Spec on the bottom.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bigsky23</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Twat?
What the hell is your problem Quiteshooter? Like I replied to your last post, While I agree it makes no difference in the way the scope functions, it clearly makes a difference in collectable value. All you have to do is look up USMC marked Schmidt and Bender to prove that. Fastnine has a fair point. Calling him a twat only shows how limited your understanding is. </div></div>
It is apples and orange, older NF Mil Spec scopes were not marked differently... the addition of the mil spec on the parallax is "new" feature and not an original feature as clearly stated by NF. I have hundreds of pictures of military NF scopes with no markings. Same as saying you have a Mil Spec NF that is not an F1, prior to the F1 release the military was using SFP NF scopes, so you have some with no "made in use" on them... changes in the spec and line just mean different time frames. The fact it is marked on the bottom makes it so... no other scope will have that, so not to be confused.
USMC marked S&B scopes are so because there were and are civilian equivalents that are the same scope. So having a civilian 3-12x is different than having a USMC version of the same scope. And the USMC spec'd the markings from the beginning to keep in line with MST100.
So, in a word, "Twat" applies
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bigsky23</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Twat?
What the hell is your problem Quiteshooter? Like I replied to your last post, While I agree it makes no difference in the way the scope functions, it clearly makes a difference in collectable value. All you have to do is look up USMC marked Schmidt and Bender to prove that. Fastnine has a fair point. Calling him a twat only shows how limited your understanding is. </div></div>
It is apples and orange, older NF Mil Spec scopes were not marked differently... the addition of the mil spec on the parallax is "new" feature and not an original feature as clearly stated by NF. I have hundreds of pictures of military NF scopes with no markings. Same as saying you have a Mil Spec NF that is not an F1, prior to the F1 release the military was using SFP NF scopes, so you have some with no "made in use" on them... changes in the spec and line just mean different time frames. The fact it is marked on the bottom makes it so... no other scope will have that, so not to be confused.
USMC marked S&B scopes are so because there were and are civilian equivalents that are the same scope. So having a civilian 3-12x is different than having a USMC version of the same scope. And the USMC spec'd the markings from the beginning to keep in line with MST100.
So, in a word, "Twat" applies
Re: NIGHTFORCE ARMY SPEC F1
Ill buy it off you so you can quite worrying about the markings.....
Ill buy it off you so you can quite worrying about the markings.....
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its marked on the bottom numbnuts.
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Whats the deal with the name calling around here? Is that some kind of i wanna be a tough guy so i name call? I can understand if your not happy with what i had to say fine.But does it somehow make you feel like a man to call another man you don't even know numbnuts,beacuse I'm sure you would not speak to me that way if we met at lets say the local shooting range..
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its marked on the bottom numbnuts.
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Whats the deal with the name calling around here? Is that some kind of i wanna be a tough guy so i name call? I can understand if your not happy with what i had to say fine.But does it somehow make you feel like a man to call another man you don't even know numbnuts,beacuse I'm sure you would not speak to me that way if we met at lets say the local shooting range..
Re: NIGHTFORCE ARMY SPEC F1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its marked on the bottom numbnuts.
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except as the NF rep said
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 00bullitt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fastnine......PM Sent
You are correct. It is mentioned in the MIL-SPEC brochure, but the scopes were not intended to be delivered that way. That totally slipped by all 10 of us in the sales office when we released that brochure. The brochure was released to support the MIL-SPEC product in the commercial market. <span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">That cap was a recent in line change to the MIL-SPEC Product line and has only been incorporated in the past few mont</span>hs.</span>
The over runs are in the configuration they are being delivered in as they are the same way they were originally delivered to the Army.
<span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">This was a simple oversight on our behalf where we had literature that was newer than the product it was supporting. We apologi</span>ze.</span> It is still engraved Army-Spec F1 on the bottom of the saddle which makes it a very authentic MIL-SPEC scope. Which if you will also note, is different than what is listed in the brochure.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its marked on the bottom numbnuts.
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except as the NF rep said
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 00bullitt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fastnine......PM Sent
You are correct. It is mentioned in the MIL-SPEC brochure, but the scopes were not intended to be delivered that way. That totally slipped by all 10 of us in the sales office when we released that brochure. The brochure was released to support the MIL-SPEC product in the commercial market. <span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">That cap was a recent in line change to the MIL-SPEC Product line and has only been incorporated in the past few mont</span>hs.</span>
The over runs are in the configuration they are being delivered in as they are the same way they were originally delivered to the Army.
<span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">This was a simple oversight on our behalf where we had literature that was newer than the product it was supporting. We apologi</span>ze.</span> It is still engraved Army-Spec F1 on the bottom of the saddle which makes it a very authentic MIL-SPEC scope. Which if you will also note, is different than what is listed in the brochure.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its marked on the bottom numbnuts.
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except as the NF rep said
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 00bullitt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fastnine......PM Sent
You are correct. It is mentioned in the MIL-SPEC brochure, but the scopes were not intended to be delivered that way. That totally slipped by all 10 of us in the sales office when we released that brochure. The brochure was released to support the MIL-SPEC product in the commercial market. <span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">That cap was a recent in line change to the MIL-SPEC Product line and has only been incorporated in the past few mont</span>hs.</span>
The over runs are in the configuration they are being delivered in as they are the same way they were originally delivered to the Army.
<span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">This was a simple oversight on our behalf where we had literature that was newer than the product it was supporting. We apologi</span>ze.</span> It is still engraved Army-Spec F1 on the bottom of the saddle which makes it a very authentic MIL-SPEC scope. Which if you will also note, is different than what is listed in the brochure.
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Right so why would you call NF and argue with them for an hour on the phone about it ... it's cap. And the scope is clearly marked on the bottom and you weren't being charged any different for the model as if you were actually paying for the cap to say... ?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After calling night force and fighting with them for about an hour ,it was told to me that only the Military can have the MIL-SPEC cap that you see all over the owners manual as well as advertised on every sight that has one for sale.</div></div>
It has no bearing on the function of the scope what so ever and does not change the value, so why argue over it.
Authenticity ?
Please the US Military has been using unmarked NF for a long time so it is not that, it is still the same scope as noted by the markings on the bottom, the box, the manual.
to the original poster,
The reasons people are calling you names is because you are acting like a child arguing with a company over a cap. It's smacks of airsoft bs and not of a user, just a poser. If you can't get that, maybe that is a clue.
it's the words "mil spec" on a cap... you didn't pay for it you paid the same as any other F1, get over it. The scope is stilled marked more so than 90% of any NF I have seen in actual military use.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">its marked on the bottom numbnuts.
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except as the NF rep said
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 00bullitt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fastnine......PM Sent
You are correct. It is mentioned in the MIL-SPEC brochure, but the scopes were not intended to be delivered that way. That totally slipped by all 10 of us in the sales office when we released that brochure. The brochure was released to support the MIL-SPEC product in the commercial market. <span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">That cap was a recent in line change to the MIL-SPEC Product line and has only been incorporated in the past few mont</span>hs.</span>
The over runs are in the configuration they are being delivered in as they are the same way they were originally delivered to the Army.
<span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">This was a simple oversight on our behalf where we had literature that was newer than the product it was supporting. We apologi</span>ze.</span> It is still engraved Army-Spec F1 on the bottom of the saddle which makes it a very authentic MIL-SPEC scope. Which if you will also note, is different than what is listed in the brochure.
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Right so why would you call NF and argue with them for an hour on the phone about it ... it's cap. And the scope is clearly marked on the bottom and you weren't being charged any different for the model as if you were actually paying for the cap to say... ?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After calling night force and fighting with them for about an hour ,it was told to me that only the Military can have the MIL-SPEC cap that you see all over the owners manual as well as advertised on every sight that has one for sale.</div></div>
It has no bearing on the function of the scope what so ever and does not change the value, so why argue over it.
Authenticity ?
Please the US Military has been using unmarked NF for a long time so it is not that, it is still the same scope as noted by the markings on the bottom, the box, the manual.
to the original poster,
The reasons people are calling you names is because you are acting like a child arguing with a company over a cap. It's smacks of airsoft bs and not of a user, just a poser. If you can't get that, maybe that is a clue.
it's the words "mil spec" on a cap... you didn't pay for it you paid the same as any other F1, get over it. The scope is stilled marked more so than 90% of any NF I have seen in actual military use.
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I can't believe this was even worth the OP posting about. What a waste of bandwidth. So, to the OP, you weren't happy over a minor detail. And then you made a huge deal out of it and other people told you so. You are surprised at the reaction? Really?
When my kids act like this, they get a time out. I'm happy NF took good care of you, i expect nothing less they are an awesome group, with an awesome product.
If you didnt like what you got, you should have left it with them, we didnt really need to hear about it. You over reacted, big time.
Paulus
I can't believe this was even worth the OP posting about. What a waste of bandwidth. So, to the OP, you weren't happy over a minor detail. And then you made a huge deal out of it and other people told you so. You are surprised at the reaction? Really?
When my kids act like this, they get a time out. I'm happy NF took good care of you, i expect nothing less they are an awesome group, with an awesome product.
If you didnt like what you got, you should have left it with them, we didnt really need to hear about it. You over reacted, big time.
Paulus
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lowlight the call to nf was before the post on your forum.and again to those who miss read or jumped in after i already own 3 other NF units and this scope was for a collectible.
lowlight you yourself posted the specs of this scope to read "marked mil spec on the side ajustment and under the sadle.Anyone who has collected anything would also be critical of small details. I already own another F1 scope that i shoot with simple.
and last but not least i have been lurking here since 09 so please guys stop acting like im some mall ninja as another member put it. lol
lowlight the call to nf was before the post on your forum.and again to those who miss read or jumped in after i already own 3 other NF units and this scope was for a collectible.
lowlight you yourself posted the specs of this scope to read "marked mil spec on the side ajustment and under the sadle.Anyone who has collected anything would also be critical of small details. I already own another F1 scope that i shoot with simple.
and last but not least i have been lurking here since 09 so please guys stop acting like im some mall ninja as another member put it. lol
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The text I posted was given too me... clearly if you look at the Mil Spec I photographed it is not there.
Here:
You came on here to bitch in public because you didn't like the answer you got from NF and arguing with them for "almost an hour" is stupid. The answer is simple, that is something they added after the fact.
I have several "Mil Spec" / Military Only Models from NF and you can't tell the difference except if you look at the reticle or turrets in the case of my Mk13 model scope, which by the way is SFP.
So arguing with them over a technicality is petty and coming on the internet to bitch about it is even more so.
It doesn't change the fact of the matter, the scope is marked. How you want to justify it in your head is your snake not mine.
The text I posted was given too me... clearly if you look at the Mil Spec I photographed it is not there.
Here:
You came on here to bitch in public because you didn't like the answer you got from NF and arguing with them for "almost an hour" is stupid. The answer is simple, that is something they added after the fact.
I have several "Mil Spec" / Military Only Models from NF and you can't tell the difference except if you look at the reticle or turrets in the case of my Mk13 model scope, which by the way is SFP.
So arguing with them over a technicality is petty and coming on the internet to bitch about it is even more so.
It doesn't change the fact of the matter, the scope is marked. How you want to justify it in your head is your snake not mine.
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Lurking since 09, but profile still not filled out. Amazing. Again, since it isnt sinking in: you over reacted. It was a minor detail, and Nightforce apparently righted this percieved wrong. Was it really worth arguing, and bickering with people who obviously treated you well? i doubt it, so do others. You notice you are the only one taking your side? That's a hint: everyone else isnt the problem. YOU are.
Paulus
Lurking since 09, but profile still not filled out. Amazing. Again, since it isnt sinking in: you over reacted. It was a minor detail, and Nightforce apparently righted this percieved wrong. Was it really worth arguing, and bickering with people who obviously treated you well? i doubt it, so do others. You notice you are the only one taking your side? That's a hint: everyone else isnt the problem. YOU are.
Paulus
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The NF in this image is a Mil Spec model too, no markings
How can you tell it is a military version, the turret and reticle is the only way:
I have others as well... so your Authenticity argument doesn't hold water... there are 3 different varieties of NF here that are military only and none but this current F1 has anything on them to signify it was a military model.
The NF in this image is a Mil Spec model too, no markings
How can you tell it is a military version, the turret and reticle is the only way:
I have others as well... so your Authenticity argument doesn't hold water... there are 3 different varieties of NF here that are military only and none but this current F1 has anything on them to signify it was a military model.
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OP, there's ALOT of people on here with the "little big man" syndrome, you just learn to live with it/ignore it.
If your not happy I would just return it. It is still at least marked Army-Spec so I wouldn't sweat it, anyone who does any research on it will see it's a military overrun.
OP, there's ALOT of people on here with the "little big man" syndrome, you just learn to live with it/ignore it.
If your not happy I would just return it. It is still at least marked Army-Spec so I wouldn't sweat it, anyone who does any research on it will see it's a military overrun.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Paulus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lurking since 09, but profile still not filled out. Amazing. Again, since it isnt sinking in: you over reacted. It was a minor detail, and Nightforce apparently righted this percieved wrong. Was it really worth arguing, and bickering with people who obviously treated you well? i doubt it, so do others. You notice you are the only one taking your side? That's a hint: everyone else isnt the problem. YOU are.
Paulus </div></div>
And a profile filled out does what exactly? somehow valadate me as a better member or help me take hints more.OK
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Paulus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lurking since 09, but profile still not filled out. Amazing. Again, since it isnt sinking in: you over reacted. It was a minor detail, and Nightforce apparently righted this percieved wrong. Was it really worth arguing, and bickering with people who obviously treated you well? i doubt it, so do others. You notice you are the only one taking your side? That's a hint: everyone else isnt the problem. YOU are.
Paulus </div></div>
And a profile filled out does what exactly? somehow valadate me as a better member or help me take hints more.OK
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fastnine</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Paulus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lurking since 09, but profile still not filled out. Amazing. Again, since it isnt sinking in: you over reacted. It was a minor detail, and Nightforce apparently righted this percieved wrong. Was it really worth arguing, and bickering with people who obviously treated you well? i doubt it, so do others. You notice you are the only one taking your side? That's a hint: everyone else isnt the problem. YOU are.
Paulus </div></div>
And a profile filled out does what exactly? somehow valadate me as a better member or help me take hints more.OK </div></div>
You do make friends fast, don't you? You sound more like an Airsoft kid with every post.
Paulus
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fastnine</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Paulus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lurking since 09, but profile still not filled out. Amazing. Again, since it isnt sinking in: you over reacted. It was a minor detail, and Nightforce apparently righted this percieved wrong. Was it really worth arguing, and bickering with people who obviously treated you well? i doubt it, so do others. You notice you are the only one taking your side? That's a hint: everyone else isnt the problem. YOU are.
Paulus </div></div>
And a profile filled out does what exactly? somehow valadate me as a better member or help me take hints more.OK </div></div>
You do make friends fast, don't you? You sound more like an Airsoft kid with every post.
Paulus
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Thus whole thread is a waste of bandwidth. Who cares Lets shutup and shoot.
Thus whole thread is a waste of bandwidth. Who cares Lets shutup and shoot.
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It sounds like NF went above and beyond in rewarding you for bitching. I hope the only reason they accomidated you is because you were waisting their time. They build phenominal optics and they deserve better than you.
I find it comical that you asked us our thoughts in your origional post but when our comments/opinions differed from yours, you got defensive. What did you expect? You came here to bash a company that has a great reputation for excellent products and customer service. I have spoken to many representatives from that company and they have always been gracious and professional. Take a hint, you are WRONG here and you have received the thrashing that you deserve.
It sounds like NF went above and beyond in rewarding you for bitching. I hope the only reason they accomidated you is because you were waisting their time. They build phenominal optics and they deserve better than you.
I find it comical that you asked us our thoughts in your origional post but when our comments/opinions differed from yours, you got defensive. What did you expect? You came here to bash a company that has a great reputation for excellent products and customer service. I have spoken to many representatives from that company and they have always been gracious and professional. Take a hint, you are WRONG here and you have received the thrashing that you deserve.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: badshot338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It sounds like NF went above and beyond in rewarding you for bitching. I hope the only reason they accomidated you is because you were waisting their time. They build phenominal optics and they deserve better than you.
I find it comical that you asked us our thoughts in your origional post but when our comments/opinions differed from yours, you got defensive. What did you expect? You came here to bash a company that has a great reputation for excellent products and customer service. I have spoken to many representatives from that company and they have always been gracious and professional. Take a hint, you are WRONG here and you have received the thrashing that you deserve. </div></div>
Hold on you just got on this forum 2-28-12 and your 3rd post is this?? LMAO
YES SIR MR KEYBOARD COWBOY SIR!! Like i said about 9 post ago its been taking care of.But i totally understand your need to spout off.Geeze don't you have something good to add like maybe your scope is missing a cap?? The "Thrashing i deserve" are you going to tell me to clean my airsoft next also?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: badshot338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It sounds like NF went above and beyond in rewarding you for bitching. I hope the only reason they accomidated you is because you were waisting their time. They build phenominal optics and they deserve better than you.
I find it comical that you asked us our thoughts in your origional post but when our comments/opinions differed from yours, you got defensive. What did you expect? You came here to bash a company that has a great reputation for excellent products and customer service. I have spoken to many representatives from that company and they have always been gracious and professional. Take a hint, you are WRONG here and you have received the thrashing that you deserve. </div></div>
Hold on you just got on this forum 2-28-12 and your 3rd post is this?? LMAO
YES SIR MR KEYBOARD COWBOY SIR!! Like i said about 9 post ago its been taking care of.But i totally understand your need to spout off.Geeze don't you have something good to add like maybe your scope is missing a cap?? The "Thrashing i deserve" are you going to tell me to clean my airsoft next also?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fastnine</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: badshot338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It sounds like NF went above and beyond in rewarding you for bitching. I hope the only reason they accomidated you is because you were waisting their time. They build phenominal optics and they deserve better than you.
I find it comical that you asked us our thoughts in your origional post but when our comments/opinions differed from yours, you got defensive. What did you expect? You came here to bash a company that has a great reputation for excellent products and customer service. I have spoken to many representatives from that company and they have always been gracious and professional. Take a hint, you are WRONG here and you have received the thrashing that you deserve. </div></div>
Hold on you just got on this forum 2-28-12 and your 3rd post is this?? LMAO
YES SIR MR KEYBOARD COWBOY SIR!! Like i said about 9 post ago its been taking care of.But i totally understand your need to spout off.Geeze don't you have something good to add like maybe your scope is missing a cap?? The "Thrashing i deserve" are you going to tell me to clean my airsoft next also? </div></div>
And why are you going directly for the seniority of joining date and post count? That's weak....
You asked for our thoughts, you got them. We can't help that the opinions you asked for rubbed you the wrong way.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fastnine</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: badshot338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It sounds like NF went above and beyond in rewarding you for bitching. I hope the only reason they accomidated you is because you were waisting their time. They build phenominal optics and they deserve better than you.
I find it comical that you asked us our thoughts in your origional post but when our comments/opinions differed from yours, you got defensive. What did you expect? You came here to bash a company that has a great reputation for excellent products and customer service. I have spoken to many representatives from that company and they have always been gracious and professional. Take a hint, you are WRONG here and you have received the thrashing that you deserve. </div></div>
Hold on you just got on this forum 2-28-12 and your 3rd post is this?? LMAO
YES SIR MR KEYBOARD COWBOY SIR!! Like i said about 9 post ago its been taking care of.But i totally understand your need to spout off.Geeze don't you have something good to add like maybe your scope is missing a cap?? The "Thrashing i deserve" are you going to tell me to clean my airsoft next also? </div></div>
And why are you going directly for the seniority of joining date and post count? That's weak....
You asked for our thoughts, you got them. We can't help that the opinions you asked for rubbed you the wrong way.
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And the rest of you guys thanks for the help i will be back next year LOL.To the guys that shot me a PM thank you.To Lowlight the pics were great and thanks for the help.To the rest of you keyboard cowboys i would not let you shine my spent brass..LOL enjoy the night Happy Shooting!!
And the rest of you guys thanks for the help i will be back next year LOL.To the guys that shot me a PM thank you.To Lowlight the pics were great and thanks for the help.To the rest of you keyboard cowboys i would not let you shine my spent brass..LOL enjoy the night Happy Shooting!!
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Guys I think someone had their feelings hurt. Fastnine if you can post a pic of your stress card I bet everyone would apologize for letting you know how pathetic you are.
Guys I think someone had their feelings hurt. Fastnine if you can post a pic of your stress card I bet everyone would apologize for letting you know how pathetic you are.
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This is the first time I've posted because I've always used this forum as a research tool. This thread just pissed me off so bad I had to chime in. And I wouldnt be too fast to jump on me when 12 of your 13 posts on this forum have been on this thread. 11 of those defending yourself from people that obviously have more sense than you. Consider any response you may have to this to be ignored by me and most likely anyone else on this forum. You have waisted all of our time and I have better things to do, like go shoot my Army Spec F1 which doesn't have Mil-Spec on the battery cap. I hope it works without it...
This is the first time I've posted because I've always used this forum as a research tool. This thread just pissed me off so bad I had to chime in. And I wouldnt be too fast to jump on me when 12 of your 13 posts on this forum have been on this thread. 11 of those defending yourself from people that obviously have more sense than you. Consider any response you may have to this to be ignored by me and most likely anyone else on this forum. You have waisted all of our time and I have better things to do, like go shoot my Army Spec F1 which doesn't have Mil-Spec on the battery cap. I hope it works without it...
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Hilarious that the only civil post was an apology to the OP from NF.
Hilarious that the only civil post was an apology to the OP from NF.
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It makes me a little sad inside knowing this guy owns such a nice scope.
It makes me a little sad inside knowing this guy owns such a nice scope.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RustyShackelferd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It makes me a little sad inside knowing this guy owns such a nice scope. </div></div>
+1. Maybe he will seek life elsewhere or LL will get rid of him. Clearly he doesnt contribute anything of value.
-Paulus
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RustyShackelferd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It makes me a little sad inside knowing this guy owns such a nice scope. </div></div>
+1. Maybe he will seek life elsewhere or LL will get rid of him. Clearly he doesnt contribute anything of value.
-Paulus
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Just by reading this a have to come to the conclusion that it will take me a long time to get to 100 posts.think i will stick to lurking around for some time
Just by reading this a have to come to the conclusion that it will take me a long time to get to 100 posts.think i will stick to lurking around for some time
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scorp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just by reading this a have to come to the conclusion that it will take me a long time to get to 100 posts.think i will stick to lurking around for some time </div></div>
Agreed - now I'm afraid to post something stupid and step on my dick and get scared away!
My 2 cents - kinda dicked jumping on this guy from the get go; his concern that maybe the optic that he paid a premium $2300 because it was mil-spec wasn't what was advertised was ridiculed with about fifty people telling him how stupid he was. Not a very inviting atmosphere for new members, and kind of goes against the sticky up top saying to not do it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scorp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just by reading this a have to come to the conclusion that it will take me a long time to get to 100 posts.think i will stick to lurking around for some time </div></div>
Agreed - now I'm afraid to post something stupid and step on my dick and get scared away!
My 2 cents - kinda dicked jumping on this guy from the get go; his concern that maybe the optic that he paid a premium $2300 because it was mil-spec wasn't what was advertised was ridiculed with about fifty people telling him how stupid he was. Not a very inviting atmosphere for new members, and kind of goes against the sticky up top saying to not do it.
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I think he got jumped on for the argumentative nature of his posts, and the way he acted when he consulted nightforce. Go back and read how he talks to LowLight. in case you dont know, thats the gent that runs this place.
now i dont know about you, but i dont talk smack to the person who's house or establishment i go to just because of a difference of opinion. Respect: you get what you give. its that simple.
-Paulus
I think he got jumped on for the argumentative nature of his posts, and the way he acted when he consulted nightforce. Go back and read how he talks to LowLight. in case you dont know, thats the gent that runs this place.
now i dont know about you, but i dont talk smack to the person who's house or establishment i go to just because of a difference of opinion. Respect: you get what you give. its that simple.
-Paulus
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Asking questions whether they are stupid or not will generally be recieved well on the forums. If you did not try to search for the answer first, you will get picked on a little.
The OP however came on the boards to complain and cry after he already had spoken to NF and they already explained to him what happened. The OP got what he deserved. That is the difference.
I asked a ton of questions when I first joined and I received nothing but helpful answers. I however did my homework prior to asking my questions though. Welcome to the hide, don't be an idiot.
Asking questions whether they are stupid or not will generally be recieved well on the forums. If you did not try to search for the answer first, you will get picked on a little.
The OP however came on the boards to complain and cry after he already had spoken to NF and they already explained to him what happened. The OP got what he deserved. That is the difference.
I asked a ton of questions when I first joined and I received nothing but helpful answers. I however did my homework prior to asking my questions though. Welcome to the hide, don't be an idiot.
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Thing is, if someone who runs this site comes in after I've been through a wave of people crapping on me, and I'm already in a defensive mode, I'm probably going to be brash and defensive when dealing with the site owner, too.
Thing is, if someone who runs this site comes in after I've been through a wave of people crapping on me, and I'm already in a defensive mode, I'm probably going to be brash and defensive when dealing with the site owner, too.
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