Nucleus Orders

I already contacted them about this, if you ordered a barloc some shipping was applied to the preorder. The balance on the $35 shipping is charged with the final invoice.
Yeah after I thought about it for a minute it clicked. Since the previous payments were applied to the final invoice what i had paid in shipping previously was forwarded as a credit into the final balance. Oncall for work this week and have had little sleep.
 
Going to cancel my pre-order since I purchased a new AXMC. I put it up in PX first to see if anyone wants it. Just want the $314.58 that I put down for the action and Barloc. Order # is 290X
 
Really?

I thought the mainspring was just a choice to get a more energetic firing pin and I doubt ARC is making their own, it's probably wound by Wolfe or something.

The extractor thing was an ARC issue, it delayed everything, not just PVA barreled actions unless it's something I'm not aware of.

I know PVA John Hancock was delayed for the ATF failing to approve the marking variance in a reasonable time frame. I think they just got behind on a lot of pre-fit barrel orders, a new building move and setting up laser etching delayed things too.
 
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I picked my nucleus up today. It seems as if ARC fixed what my buddy liked to call the "Pussy Finger" problem with the bolt release. His nucleus was an early delivery, and I couldn’t rotate his for the life of me. I have no problem what so ever rotating the bolt release on my action. It is so much better. I just dropped it into my bravo and it feels amazing. It’s my first custom action, but I really really like it. I love the Bravo chassis. The ergos on it are amazing for the price point. And the grip tape I put on it makes a big difference in texture. Well done ARC and KRG.


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Now I’m just waiting on my barrel and I’ll be ready to rock. Once the barrel comes in, I’ll throw the Burris XTRii and Vortex rings on top of it and see how it shoots. I really think it’s coming along very well. I’m crazy excited now and can’t wait to finish her up.
Now that what I'm talking about! Nice rig. I'm planning the same set up with a Proof Carbon only in Left Hand.
 
I am asking if anyone has gotten a barreled action from pva, not an action from arc

https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...-rifle-nucleus-barreled-action.6880823/page-8
from the thread above, i think Bohem says actions are in for the BA orders. but only the 1st 12 orders, and they had issues with incorrect springs and extractor.

post #327 - "Nucleus barreled action orders are in process for barrel work currently. We have not received the receivers yet but are expecting them sometime in the next 10 days based on status from ARC." - Bohem

post #353 - "We recieved our first Nucleus actions last week however they were mistakenly shipped with incorrect main springs and old extractors.
We are awaiting replacement parts prior to contacting the first 12 folks in line and telling them to pay the balances due. We're waiting because it would be unreasonable (in my opinion) to tell someone "We got your stuff almost done, pay us now... oh btw we still need to replace a couple parts and I don't know when they're coming in." "
 
I am asking if anyone has gotten a barreled action from pva, not an action from arc
PVA got my three Nucleus actions (for .223) Monday for the purpose of spinning the barrels so hopefully I will have mine any day. Initially I ordered just the barrels from PVA but then Josh agreed to install them on the actions for just the cost of additional shipping. The triggers and chassis are here waiting.
 
I do know that once I got my shipping notification, it was fun watching the package go from the West Coast to the East Coast. I just ordered a 308 bolt head. I’m curious to see if USPS priority is faster than UPS ground.
 
Man, I have no clue now when I'm going to get mine.

I ordered very late, and I ordered multiple bolt heads. And a Barloc.

Sounds like I have something to look forward to in 2019...

Same here, number 3104. I had hoped to have the action for a hunting rifle this fall. Had my smith start the build on a Bighorn. I'll keep my spot, but I suspect I'll be selling the Nucleus unless I fall in love at first sight.
 
Order number 318X here. It shows up when it shows up. Same can be said for the Super 700 trigger that had a release date of April and hasn't shipped a single unit yet. That being said, pretty close to ordering an Origin to run on the 6.5 prc hunting barrel I ordered to swap on and off with the nucleus.
 
I ran my Nucleus yesterday in a match for the first time. It ran great and feels darn good when running the bolt fast and hard. The PVA barrel did not let me down, even in challenging wind conditions I got decent hits at 1,000yds.

But I did see one other guy have light primer strike issues and it was so bad he left the match early. I watched him at one stage go through an entire mag and did not get one shot off. After seeing this, I'm going to call ARC and see if I can get a heavy spring as a backup. I don't want to be forced to leave a match early because my rifle won't shoot. I now have a little less than 200 round count of PRIME with no failures, but just bought a bunch of Hornady from a friend who switched calibers so I'll be trying it soon.

This is a great action for the $.
 
I ran my Nucleus yesterday in a match for the first time. It ran great and feels darn good when running the bolt fast and hard. The PVA barrel did not let me down, even in challenging wind conditions I got decent hits at 1,000yds.

But I did see one other guy have light primer strike issues and it was so bad he left the match early. I watched him at one stage go through an entire mag and did not get one shot off. After seeing this, I'm going to call ARC and see if I can get a heavy spring as a backup. I don't want to be forced to leave a match early because my rifle won't shoot. I now have a little less than 200 round count of PRIME with no failures, but just bought a bunch of Hornady from a friend who switched calibers so I'll be trying it soon.

This is a great action for the $.

My Nucleus has run great in both matches, a two day and my local match yesterday. Yesterday I had first round hit at 1000 yards, and then three other guys got behind it and had three first round hits as well. I love it so far.

As to the light primer strikes, I had a friend who had that problem on his .308 Nucleus. 20% did not go off. He called ARC this morning and can't get a heavier spring until it goes on the website. He is gonna chase down what might be the issue.
 
I ran my Nucleus yesterday in a match for the first time. It ran great and feels darn good when running the bolt fast and hard. The PVA barrel did not let me down, even in challenging wind conditions I got decent hits at 1,000yds.

But I did see one other guy have light primer strike issues and it was so bad he left the match early. I watched him at one stage go through an entire mag and did not get one shot off. After seeing this, I'm going to call ARC and see if I can get a heavy spring as a backup. I don't want to be forced to leave a match early because my rifle won't shoot. I now have a little less than 200 round count of PRIME with no failures, but just bought a bunch of Hornady from a friend who switched calibers so I'll be trying it soon.

This is a great action for the $.

Shot my nucleus this weekend. First five rounds went click, not bang. About 40% failure rate to fire handloads (CCI 200 primers). About 5% failure to fire with factory ammo ( Hornady Eld-M). Got a match I was going to shoot in less than 2 weeks, may have to go to my backup.
 
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I ran my Nucleus yesterday in a match for the first time. It ran great and feels darn good when running the bolt fast and hard. The PVA barrel did not let me down, even in challenging wind conditions I got decent hits at 1,000yds.

But I did see one other guy have light primer strike issues and it was so bad he left the match early. I watched him at one stage go through an entire mag and did not get one shot off. After seeing this, I'm going to call ARC and see if I can get a heavy spring as a backup. I don't want to be forced to leave a match early because my rifle won't shoot. I now have a little less than 200 round count of PRIME with no failures, but just bought a bunch of Hornady from a friend who switched calibers so I'll be trying it soon.

This is a great action for the $.

Just curious , what mag are you using?
 
My buddy has a Timney 510.

Also, the heavier spring is available on the website.

I 've ordered the 19lbs, the 22 is not availabe yet. We'll see if I get it soon enough for the competition. Going to try Federal primers to see if that makes a difference. Worst case, I can compete with factory Hornady, but would prefer not.
 
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I 've ordered the 19lbs, the 22 is not availabe yet. We'll see if I get it soon enough for the competition. Going to try Federal primers to see if that makes a difference. Worst case, I can compete with factory Hornady, but would prefer not.

Hope that solves it for you. I have had no problems, but might order one just in case. Would hate to have it go in a comp.
 
Here is a comment by Ted on the extractor and control round feeding in another thread. I know I was just looking at this thread, and missed the others.

From Ted:

In general, an action is considered to be controlled round feed (CRF) if its extractor is capable of engaging a cartridge on its way out of the magazine and then pulling that cartridge reward for delivery to the ejector without the need to rotate the bolt closed as one would need to do in a push-feed action such as a Rem 700.

Pushing the bolt forward as slowly as possible and expecting the same result as one would get had they pushed the bolt forward at normal speed is senseless because cartridge inertia matters.

The advantage offered CRF actions is a reduction, in the likelihood of double feeding the chamber which would otherwise cause a jam. This tends to happen during times of stress, such as during timed competitive events. Again, it CRF reduces the risk of double feeding. It does NOT eliminate it.

The degree to which the likelihood of double feeding is reduced depends on the magazine and its feed lip geometry, the diameter of the cartridge body, the diameter of the bolt, the shape of the extractor hook, and the position of the cartridge shoulder along the length of the cartridge, the speed with which the bolt is cycled, the width of the cartridge extraction groove, and more. Variations in any of these will affect CRF reliability.

While designing both the Nucleus and the Mausingfield, I never once assumed that CRF functionality would be necessary when running a bolt as slowly as possible in an attempt to capture the case being forced under the extractor when the forward motion of the bolt is purposely stopped an instant after the mag has released it. That said, we can create the conditions for that to happen, or not happen, but that would be a stupid waste of time. And that's true of any CRF action, Mauser 98 included. Just because I can cause a certain Mauser 98 to fail to engage the head of a certain cartridge by running it in a certain manner would not lead me to conclude that the M98 is not a CRF action. And that's saying something because Mauser rifle were built as cartridge specific rifles. Moreover, anyone who has every built custom rifles on M98s will tell you that mods are required to get reliable CRF functionality.

If you want to capture controlled round feed on video, record the bolt cycle at normal speeds (fast) and replay in slow motion. I'll leave that up to someone else.

Oh, and one last point. Never write anything in a public forum about a bolt action until after you have come to understand the Mauser 98. I can't stress that point enough.

Ted

Theodore Karagias
President
American Rifle Company, Inc.
We Engineer Accuracy
 
I'm the guy Atomic referenced regarding leaving a match early due to light primer strikes. There's a thread dedicated to just this topic if anyone is interested. I'm running a Huber two stage trigger, and CCI 450 Magnum primers in Lapua SRP brass. Primers are set .003" below the head of the brass and I'm bumping my shoulders about .0015" when FL sizing.