How far out are they on delivery of the 223 conversionsShow me those SAC 223 conversions!! Just ordered one for my A2 covert. Figured it was time.
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How far out are they on delivery of the 223 conversionsShow me those SAC 223 conversions!! Just ordered one for my A2 covert. Figured it was time.
I asked them if they had a 1:7 twist 223 Bartleins in stock for a 223 conversion and he said all he has in stock is 1:7.5 twist Barts in stock at the moment… so I said F it and added it on. They’re going to chamber my 300 PRC and 223 same day, said I’ll probably get them within 2-3 months. You have a 223 in the que?How far out are they on delivery of the 223 conversions
I was thinking about it, just to get more shooting timeI asked them if they had a 1:7 twist 223 Bartleins in stock for a 223 conversion and he said all he has in stock is 1:7.5 twist Barts in stock at the moment… so I said F it and added it on. They’re going to chamber my 300 PRC and 223 same day, said I’ll probably get them within 2-3 months. You have a 223 in the que?
Yeah that’s why I did it. Save some money with relatively inexpensive ammo. Don’t know how many 1:7.5” they had in stock but he did confirm he had “some” in stock.I was thinking about it, just to get more shooting time
They must’ve just got some in from Bartlein or recently. They must be ordering large batches directly from them I’d imagine. I’m having SAC spin up a 30 cal as well and I wanted it 1:9 but all they had in stock was 1:8 and said it would be months before they got some 1:9’s inI've had a 1:7.5 223 in the que since June. Eagerly awaiting but in the meantime having fun with the 6.5CM!
Dang I got lucky and timed it just rightI have also had a 223 conversion in queue for a long time. I think the holdup was a process external to their outfit. Nitriding, if I'm reading it right. Anyways this is a quote from an email I got 5 hours ago,
"We just got all of our 223 conversion kit parts yesterday from nitriding so I am getting ready to schedule all the jobs..."
Lehigh still sells brass for it if I recall. RCC does as wellDamnit now I want a 510 whisper after reading some of yins posts. Looks like a blast of a cartridge!! Only problem is I own zero reloading stuff and that cartridge seems like a big learning curve with all that case trimming and such
Nice, that definitely seems like a better option. Brass life is pretty damn long isn’t it?Lehigh still sells brass for it if I recall. RCC does as well
Yeah definitely not practical it seems, but for a subsonic suppressed long range rig it seems like the one to go with. Was mulling over the idea of 300blk or 458 socom but figured since it’ll be a suppressed subsonic plinker 100% of the time 510 seems like the one to go with.Yes, I stopped making brass for it last year. At least for me, it's still kind of a gimmick cartridge: fun to load and shoot for, but not entirely practical, especially if you can't run a suppressor on it. For that reason I shot mine a lot more in NZ than I do now in CA.
This is awesome!! Damn didn’t know. You can use a standard single stage press correct, like a Forster coax?? You don’t need a 50 cal one?For comparison, a .510Whisper loaded with 650gr pulled bullets hits as hard at 100m as a full power 175SMK. But even the loads I did at 1000fps, it kicks a lot more than any .223 or .300BLK. And unsuppressed it feels so much like a 40mm shooting out of an M203/M79.
For extra fun, make some rounds with pulled .50BMG tracer and/or incendiary bullets (if legal in your AO).
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Yeah, it's a short cartridge.
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Still kind of trippy to have a short barrel you can fit your thumb down...
For the guys using their desert techs for hunting, what slings do you guys use. I'm sure that most of you just attach them onto your packs, but I usually like to have mine more accessible when walking.
I'm using this one in the non padded at the moment and it worked pretty good. I will have to look into the padded version for sure.I use Blue Force Gear padded vickers sling with QD swivels so I can pop them off/on real quick coming/going to my hunting spot
Triad tactical, PRS I think.For the guys using their desert techs for hunting, what slings do you guys use. I'm sure that most of you just attach them onto your packs, but I usually like to have mine more accessible when walking.
I use an Armageddon Gear Precision Rifle Sling. I carry muzzle down and across my chest. Great for snap shooting in hasty slings and comfortable to carry. https://www.armageddongear.com/Precision-Rifle-Sling_p_59.htmlFor the guys using their desert techs for hunting, what slings do you guys use. I'm sure that most of you just attach them onto your packs, but I usually like to have mine more accessible when walking.
I did go with spiral fluting on the barrel but I don’t really know how much that will save. Taking out the monopod is definitely something I’ve considered to bring it down A bit more. How do you like the LHT? I was looking at the new one but the capped windage for any competition might not be greatWith that barrel contour and no fluting, it’ll be tough. I ran a factory 26in 6.5CM (it’s pretty skinny with fluting), an atlas cal, and a 23 oz scope in nightforce rings and just barely came in at 11.9 lbs. you might could get away with an atlas that mounts directly to the MLok, the Razor LHT in nightforce rings, a titanium muzzle device, and yank out the monopod.
Just a thought
I’m not to sure, I won’t be able to use it for most of this year so I’m not to worried about the time framewhat was quoted turn around time from Eric @EStactical?
used to run the TAB Biathlon sling , now running theFor the guys using their desert techs for hunting, what slings do you guys use. I'm sure that most of you just attach them onto your packs, but I usually like to have mine more accessible when walking.
Looks like a cool location, what state ?View attachment 7781823View attachment 7781824View attachment 7781825
Got the twins out into the desert for some plinky plinky yesterday. The SAC 223 conversion was banging the shit out of the 18" plate at 1088 yards (I selected the day because winds 3-7 MPH and it was far more consistent wind than usual at this location). DT 308 barrel (22"), 338 LM Lilja barrel (32") and 375CT barrel (Lilja, 35") were also smoking it! New Zeiss LRP is phenomenal, though the glass is assuredly not as clear as the TT. LRP has other features I prefer however, and that's why it's on the HTI: 36.5 MRAD of useable elevation travel in a 18MIL Spuhr base (100 yard zero); lockable windage; reticle; illumination is killer. For the price difference, I'd take the LRP over the TT any day, but since I have the TT on the SRS, she's there to stay because the glass is soooo good, it's already dialed, and I don't need to go over the 27.5 MRAD it allows on the SRS (in a 13 MRAD Spuhr; 100 yard zero) since that gets the 338LM barrel out to 2300 yards and past transonic.
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Got the twins out into the desert for some plinky plinky yesterday. The SAC 223 conversion was banging the shit out of the 18" plate at 1088 yards (I selected the day because winds 3-7 MPH and it was far more consistent wind than usual at this location). DT 308 barrel (22"), 338 LM Lilja barrel (32") and 375CT barrel (Lilja, 35") were also smoking it! New Zeiss LRP is phenomenal, though the glass is assuredly not as clear as the TT. LRP has other features I prefer however, and that's why it's on the HTI: 36.5 MRAD of useable elevation travel in a 18MIL Spuhr base (100 yard zero); lockable windage; reticle; illumination is killer. For the price difference, I'd take the LRP over the TT any day, but since I have the TT on the SRS, she's there to stay because the glass is soooo good, it's already dialed, and I don't need to go over the 27.5 MRAD it allows on the SRS (in a 13 MRAD Spuhr; 100 yard zero) since that gets the 338LM barrel out to 2300 yards and past transonic.
It was one that they debuted about 5 years ago, but shortly thereafter quit making. I think it was a SAC partner of some sort. I quite like it. There is another guy on this forum who is making another version. I expect he will chime in.I'm noticing an adjustable butt pad....Is that an early prototype from SAC?
Been a while since reading this thread, but for those that hunt with them, what’s the lightest (sans scope) that you been able to get one to?
Thinking this year I will try and budget for a SRS + proof 6.5 barrel and hopefully a 223 conversion.
Wasn’t DT going to make a lightweight receiver a few years ago?
Since we’re talking weight again, here’s my previous post on the weight topic.
Just add up your components to get to your weight.
A1 Covert Chassis + Skins, monopod removed: 4 lb 8 oz
Buttpad, no spacers: 7 oz
Buttpad spacer, each: 2.6 oz
A1 Bolt, “308”: 12.2 oz
A2 Bolt, “308”: 12.0 oz
SA 6 Rd Mag, empty: 6.5 oz
Monopod: 5.6 oz
RRS ARCA Plate: 6.2 oz
ARC M10 QD-L 30mm mount: 8.5 oz
Barrel examples:
260 Rem barrel, fluted barrel and tenon, 27”, .920 muzzle with Area 419 adapter: 5 lb 4 oz
300 Win Mag barrel, non fluted, 27”, .850 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 5 lb 1 oz
6xc barrel, non fluted, 27”, .875 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 5 lb 5 oz
308 barrel, non fluted, 17”, .890 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 3 lb 8 oz
450 Bushmaster barrel, non fluted, 23”, .920 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 4 lb 6 oz
260 Rem barrel, non fluted, 19”, .875 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 4 lb 6 oz
Add up what you’ll need, pick your rings/mount, add your scope weight and total weight of ammo and you should be good.
The A2 chassis saves about a pound, so hopefully someone else can post the exact weight with the bolt, buttpad, magazine removed.
Show me those SAC 223 conversions!! Just ordered one for my A2 covert. Figured it was time.
Nice looking rifle there! Will do!!! I have some 77gr Norma match. I’ll try and find some of that imi, can’t wait to receive it.
I bought a case (500) from Midway a couple weeks ago for $567 shipped. Seemed reasonable the way things are and I’m super happy with my results at 100.Nice looking rifle there! Will do!!! I have some 77gr Norma match. I’ll try and find some of that imi, can’t wait to receive it.
It’s very useful. I was hoping over the past few years deserttech would have made a lighter weight version (eg. carbon fiber handguard, slim barrels/heavy fluted barrels, lightened the buttstock). I wouldn’t want to loose the capability and features chasing lighter weight though.Hey @Frankr, I found some time to sit and weigh stuff. My SRS A2 with 22.5in Proof CF 6CM, surefire brake, no monopod, and 1 buttpad spacer weighs 9lbs 4 oz
It could get a lot lighter though. Run no muzzle device, use the covert handguard, use the lightweight factory 308 16 barrel, and no buttpad spacers, and you could probably get it under 7 lbs. At that point, though, you've defeated some of the versatility of the system, IMO as you've probably also gone with an ultralight barebones bipod (or not one at all) and a bare bones ultralight optic.
Hope this is useful
The 10/22 chassis, New 57 or so and mags for an AR with proprietary AR lower... it's s built in double stack mag and receiver. Part of a big for a military contractWhat new products specifically?