Official (DTA) SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

[Early Cuyler]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Nukes, are you sure you are using a 4802? On Mike High's website the 4802 is a 44.4moa mount and the 4601 is a 20.6moa.

My setup has no sunshade or ARD, just the covers that came on it.

Conndcj, if your scope will still not clear, I'd suggest either trading for a 4802 or selling the one you have and buying a 4802.

 

[Dogtown]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Halcyon612</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have experience with the DTA SRS shooting mat/drag bag or a link to a review? Seems to be little info out there on it.</div></div>

I lent my rifle for this review
http://www.militarymorons.com/weapons/longguns2.html#dta

It's a well built combination shooting mat/transport case, especially if you have a can and conversion kit.

 

[John D.]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

My mount is a 4802 and is completely naked up front. I did place the scope as far back into the mount as possible and while it was better it was still a nogo.

I took the rifle to my smith. I set the scope where I wanted it. I am going the mill direction. Only the rail needs to be kissed ever so slightly and since it is replacable, I'm going to try that.

I bought the mount here from another member. I am way post shy of being able to sell it here which is about the only place I know where there would be interest for it, so I'll make it work.

 

[Early Cuyler]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: conndcj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My mount is a 4802 and is completely naked up front. I did place the scope as far back into the mount as possible and while it was better it was still a nogo.

I took the rifle to my smith. I set the scope where I wanted it. I am going the mill direction. Only the rail needs to be kissed ever so slightly and since it is replacable, I'm going to try that.

I bought the mount here from another member. I am way post shy of being able to sell it here which is about the only place I know where there would be interest for it, so I'll make it work. </div></div>

Good point on the post count issue. Glad you didn't get into trouble on my account!

I'll still suggest giving Mile High a call and at least asking if they'd do a reduced value trade (all they can say is no). Might save you the machining time cost of your gunsmith as well as keep your DTA handguards blemish-free.

Either way, good luck!

 

[ss10ring]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Ok, somebody help me figure out what i'm missing!

I'm running the same YHM Phantom .338 on all barrels

I zero my DTA with my 6.5CM barrel at 100 with 140gr AMAX

Put in my 26" .308 barrel with M118LR and it's .5 Mil low and dead center (repeatable)

Swap to my .338 LPM barrel with 285gr Hornady match and it's .5 Mil right but dead center with the 6.5CM

Here's where I don't understand

I them finish up with my 16" Covert 1x8 barrel shoot the same M118LR and I'm 2.5" high at 100, What an I missing shouldn't I be lower than the 26" .308 and def lower than the 6.5CM at 100

Any thoughts will help

 

[Nukes]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Halcyon612</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nukes, are you sure you are using a 4802? On Mike High's website the 4802 is a 44.4moa mount and the 4601 is a 20.6moa.

My setup has no sunshade or ARD, just the covers that came on it.

Conndcj, if your scope will still not clear, I'd suggest either trading for a 4802 or selling the one you have and buying a 4802. </div></div>

My mistake. Thank you for catching it, Halcyon612. Two corrections and some additional details:

My S&B 5-25 with S&B 2" ARD and Tenebraex cover clears the rail by almost <span style="text-decoration: underline">2</span>mm with the 6mil/20.6moa Spuhr 4<span style="text-decoration: underline">6</span>02(Ring size 34 mm Height 37 mm/1,46"). At the objective (no ARD or cover) the clearance is almost 4mm.

 

[RussW1911]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ss10ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, somebody help me figure out what i'm missing!

I'm running the same YHM Phantom .338 on all barrels

I zero my DTA with my 6.5CM barrel at 100 with 140gr AMAX

Put in my 26" .308 barrel with M118LR and it's .5 Mil low and dead center (repeatable)

Swap to my .338 LPM barrel with 285gr Hornady match and it's .5 Mil right but dead center with the 6.5CM

Here's where I don't understand

I them finish up with my 16" Covert 1x8 barrel shoot the same M118LR and I'm 2.5" high at 100, What an I missing shouldn't I be lower than the 26" .308 and def lower than the 6.5CM at 100

Any thoughts will help </div></div>

Every barrel has a mind of its own/ Just because it happens to be a shorter barrel or a longer barrel has no bearing on where your impact for zero is going to be. If your scope has a zero stop, it's best to zero with the barrel that hits the highest so that all your other barrels can be zeroed with an elevation correction. If there is no zero stop you can "hard zero" with whatever you want and make adjustments either up or down to get your current caliber zeroed. On my personal SRS I have several barrels zeroed and have a zero stop so my hard zero happens to be with 7WSM. All others need an elevation adjustment up to hit a dead on 100 yard zero.

We have something like 12 barrels zeroed for my work rifle and there is no zero stop on that scope so I have it zeroed for a 22" .308 and all others just need the proper up or down adjustment on the scope to get the 100 yard zero.

Hope this makes sense.

 

[ss10ring]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RussW1911 ®</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ss10ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, somebody help me figure out what i'm missing!

I'm running the same YHM Phantom .338 on all barrels

I zero my DTA with my 6.5CM barrel at 100 with 140gr AMAX

Put in my 26" .308 barrel with M118LR and it's .5 Mil low and dead center (repeatable)

Swap to my .338 LPM barrel with 285gr Hornady match and it's .5 Mil right but dead center with the 6.5CM

Here's where I don't understand

I them finish up with my 16" Covert 1x8 barrel shoot the same M118LR and I'm 2.5" high at 100, What an I missing shouldn't I be lower than the 26" .308 and def lower than the 6.5CM at 100

Any thoughts will help </div></div>

Every barrel has a mind of its own/ Just because it happens to be a shorter barrel or a longer barrel has no bearing on where your impact for zero is going to be. If your scope has a zero stop, it's best to zero with the barrel that hits the highest so that all your other barrels can be zeroed with an elevation correction. If there is no zero stop you can "hard zero" with whatever you want and make adjustments either up or down to get your current caliber zeroed. On my personal SRS I have several barrels zeroed and have a zero stop so my hard zero happens to be with 7WSM. All others need an elevation adjustment up to hit a dead on 100 yard zero.

We have something like 12 barrels zeroed for my work rifle and there is no zero stop on that scope so I have it zeroed for a 22" .308 and all others just need the proper up or down adjustment on the scope to get the 100 yard zero.

Hope this makes sense. </div></div>


Thanks that helps a little, Yes I have a hard stop on my S&B so i'll end up re-zeroing for the 16" .308 and then just add for the others and retrue shooter for my charts.

It was just hard to get my head around that a shorts barrel with a 200FPS loss was actually shooting higher off my 6.5/.338 zero and the better balistics

 

[RussW1911]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ss10ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RussW1911 ®</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ss10ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, somebody help me figure out what i'm missing!

I'm running the same YHM Phantom .338 on all barrels

I zero my DTA with my 6.5CM barrel at 100 with 140gr AMAX

Put in my 26" .308 barrel with M118LR and it's .5 Mil low and dead center (repeatable)

Swap to my .338 LPM barrel with 285gr Hornady match and it's .5 Mil right but dead center with the 6.5CM

Here's where I don't understand

I them finish up with my 16" Covert 1x8 barrel shoot the same M118LR and I'm 2.5" high at 100, What an I missing shouldn't I be lower than the 26" .308 and def lower than the 6.5CM at 100

Any thoughts will help </div></div>

Every barrel has a mind of its own/ Just because it happens to be a shorter barrel or a longer barrel has no bearing on where your impact for zero is going to be. If your scope has a zero stop, it's best to zero with the barrel that hits the highest so that all your other barrels can be zeroed with an elevation correction. If there is no zero stop you can "hard zero" with whatever you want and make adjustments either up or down to get your current caliber zeroed. On my personal SRS I have several barrels zeroed and have a zero stop so my hard zero happens to be with 7WSM. All others need an elevation adjustment up to hit a dead on 100 yard zero.

We have something like 12 barrels zeroed for my work rifle and there is no zero stop on that scope so I have it zeroed for a 22" .308 and all others just need the proper up or down adjustment on the scope to get the 100 yard zero.

Hope this makes sense. </div></div>


Thanks that helps a little, Yes I have a hard stop on my S&B so i'll end up re-zeroing for the 16" .308 and then just add for the others and retrue shooter for my charts.

It was just hard to get my head around that a shorts barrel with a 200FPS loss was actually shooting higher off my 6.5/.338 zero and the better balistics </div></div>

Has nothing to do with the actual velocity of the bullet really. Has a lot more to do with the fact that no barrel is really actually straight. They all have different stresses, yes even the stress relieved barrels. Short barrels are stiffer and won't have the whip that is inherent on longer barrels. That covert barrel you have is a stiff little bugger. Your longer barrels just happen to hit higher. I could send you another and it might hit lower than your current setup or even higher.

I have lucked out and have a few barrels that are within a half inch of the hard zero on my rifle, but that is not the norm.

If I ever get the chance to test fire a bunch of barrels, I guarantee all of my zero's will be VERY close to the hard zero on my chassis.

I have a custom barrel from a very well known American barrel maker that was built by an equally well known smith. It has the biggest shift of all my barrels. 2.4 mils high and 1.7 mils to the right. None of my factory DTA/LW barrels are even close to that.

Russ

 

[ss10ring]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RussW1911 ®</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ss10ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RussW1911 ®</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ss10ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, somebody help me figure out what i'm missing!

I'm running the same YHM Phantom .338 on all barrels

I zero my DTA with my 6.5CM barrel at 100 with 140gr AMAX

Put in my 26" .308 barrel with M118LR and it's .5 Mil low and dead center (repeatable)

Swap to my .338 LPM barrel with 285gr Hornady match and it's .5 Mil right but dead center with the 6.5CM

Here's where I don't understand

I them finish up with my 16" Covert 1x8 barrel shoot the same M118LR and I'm 2.5" high at 100, What an I missing shouldn't I be lower than the 26" .308 and def lower than the 6.5CM at 100

Any thoughts will help </div></div>

Every barrel has a mind of its own/ Just because it happens to be a shorter barrel or a longer barrel has no bearing on where your impact for zero is going to be. If your scope has a zero stop, it's best to zero with the barrel that hits the highest so that all your other barrels can be zeroed with an elevation correction. If there is no zero stop you can "hard zero" with whatever you want and make adjustments either up or down to get your current caliber zeroed. On my personal SRS I have several barrels zeroed and have a zero stop so my hard zero happens to be with 7WSM. All others need an elevation adjustment up to hit a dead on 100 yard zero.

We have something like 12 barrels zeroed for my work rifle and there is no zero stop on that scope so I have it zeroed for a 22" .308 and all others just need the proper up or down adjustment on the scope to get the 100 yard zero.

Hope this makes sense. </div></div>


Thanks that helps a little, Yes I have a hard stop on my S&B so i'll end up re-zeroing for the 16" .308 and then just add for the others and retrue shooter for my charts.

It was just hard to get my head around that a shorts barrel with a 200FPS loss was actually shooting higher off my 6.5/.338 zero and the better balistics </div></div>

Has nothing to do with the actual velocity of the bullet really. Has a lot more to do with the fact that no barrel is really actually straight. They all have different stresses, yes even the stress relieved barrels. Short barrels are stiffer and won't have the whip that is inherent on longer barrels. That covert barrel you have is a stiff little bugger. Your longer barrels just happen to hit higher. I could send you another and it might hit lower than your current setup or even higher.

I have lucked out and have a few barrels that are within a half inch of the hard zero on my rifle, but that is not the norm.

If I ever get the chance to test fire a bunch of barrels, I guarantee all of my zero's will be VERY close to the hard zero on my chassis.

I have a custom barrel from a very well known American barrel maker that was built by an equally well known smith. It has the biggest shift of all my barrels. 2.4 mils high and 1.7 mils to the right. None of my factory DTA/LW barrels are even close to that.

Russ
</div></div>


Russ,

Thanks for the info It helps make more sense now

The only issue I have with the 16" barrel now is that at 100 it's a 3/4 to 1moa barrel where all my longer ones are .3 and my 6.5CM from SAC is the .3Moa

at 200 the 16" is still a 1" shooter so I'm hoping it just doesn't like 100yds gonna get a chance to test it out to 1K next week and see how it like my 185VLD loads and it really like my 180gr Subsonic loads shoots them great out o 200 looking forward to testing the SS loads at 400

Thanks for all the tips I couldn't be happier with my SRS/Covert package. I super happy I went this route.

 

[RussW1911]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread


I think your 16" barrel will settle down. Some of our best groups in testing the DTM .308 ammo were shot with the Covert. It just seemed to love everything.

Hope you meant that you "couldn't" be happier. haha.

Shoot straight.

Russ

 

[enfieldp17]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Since we are on the subject of ammmo, I need to be careful not to change the thread string, LOL. I shot this elk with my SRS in a 7 WSM, the ammo used was DTM's 168 gr Berger, SHOUT out to the guys at DTM, exceptional accuracy, perfect combination of velocity and bullet choice. I dont have a cool story of this super tough long shot, it was a simple chip shot at 185 yds, although I would have been just as confident out at extended ranges.

 

[coldboremiracle]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Nice work Kent!!

 

[PSYOPS]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Nice elk!

...very cool camo on the skins!

U da man, Kent!

 

[fireguyty]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Strong Kent! Those 7 mags seem to be doing a number on critters!

What is that white stuff every where? We don't have that in Vegas.

Ty

 

[Danny25]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

That's a nice elk.

 

[Nukes]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fireguyty</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Strong Kent! Those 7 mags seem to be doing a number on critters!

What is that white stuff every where? We don't have that in Vegas.

Ty </div></div>

I agree. Very weird... looks like white sand or something.

 

[Thor2j]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Anybody put a TB 338BA on their DTA SRS? Wondering how it compares to the DTA DTSS.

 

[PRDRIVER]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Thor2j</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody put a TB 338BA on their DTA SRS? Wondering how it compares to the DTA DTSS. </div></div>

I run a TB 338BA on my SRS and it is a great can. It has an excellent tone and great accuracy.

 

[Scandall]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Benchmark barrels are very well built. I have one on my R700 300WM. Excellent shot grouping.

 

[sandwalk3r]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Is it just me or is every video I see of someone shooting a DTA rifle featuring people who have to move their bodies to cycle the bolt, move their heads up, etc?

Bolt operation I know is a common comment. Still trying to decide yes or no in the platform.

The bolt operation & fitting to my body are still the main deal.

Also wondering if the longer heavier options assist more with recoil management or if the more balanced DTA system helps more.

 

[Early Cuyler]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I was worried about the same thing before I bought mine. However after shooting a few hundred rounds through mine, I personally do not have to move my head when cycling the bolt. It took a while to get used to how close my hand comes to my face in the process but now it's all gravy.

As for recoil, I have the 308 with the DTA suppressor brake. That combined with the overall weight of the rifle and there is almost no recoil. The DTA is heavier than my R700P but when dry firing off-hand it seems easier to hold steady. I'm guessing that's because the weight is closer to my body compared to the R700P.

 

[RedGoat]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I've never had any issue maintaining cheek-weld while cycling the bolt...

 

[Dogtown]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwalk3r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it just me or is every video I see of someone shooting a DTA rifle featuring people who have to move their bodies to cycle the bolt, move their heads up, etc?</div></div>

This would give you the impression that it's necessary to lift your head when cycling the bolt, which isn't true. Not everyone has been trained to maintain cheekweld during cycling and even some of us who have could care less when shooting extended distances, let alone plinking.

 

[sandwalk3r]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Anyone use clip-ons with these? Wondering if there is any problem with no MOA taper to the chassis rails causing optical issues with matching the clip-on to a tapered set of rings.

 

[coldboremiracle]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwalk3r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it just me or is every video I see of someone shooting a DTA rifle featuring people who have to move their bodies to cycle the bolt, move their heads up, etc?. </div></div>

I dont know if your referring to my videos, but if you are, I can explain why. I have yet to alter my 7saum mags to run perfectly, but I can run them pretty good most of the time. The SRS is very unfriendly when a double feed occurs, so when cycling the bolt on my saum, I lift to keep an eye on it, and avoid the dreaded double feed. Otherwise (with other barrels), it cycles flawlessly, and no cheekweld need be broken. I cant wait till I get the saum to run the same, unstoppable.

 

[sandwalk3r]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

CBM - not calling out anyone's vids. I've been really close to getting one of these, so I have been looking up lots of videos. And it seems like everyone is doing this.

 

[RedGoat]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwalk3r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">CBM - not calling out anyone's vids. I've been really close to getting one of these, so I have been looking up lots of videos. And it seems like everyone is doing this.</div></div>

I assure you, if you have a caliber that feeds properly out of the DTA mag, and if you are competent at shooting you will not have to break your cheek-weld to cycle the bolt. I don't care what videos you are watching, go find a DTA and get behind it. If you know what the fuck you are doing it won't be an issue.

 

[sandwalk3r]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I had the pleasure of firing about a dozen rounds through a .308 Covert. I think the extractor had issues (I was told it was a new bolt), as well over half the brass didn't properly eject when cycling the bolt. I therefore had to use my fingers to clear brass and spent and couldn't stay down.

I'm assuming it was an anomaly, but I wanted to bring up the point before chunking down serious coin on a different design.

 

[Dogtown]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

With the short action conversions you can't baby the bolt the way you can with the long action conversions. I had that same experience when I first shot a .308WIN conversion, but cycling the bolt with a bit more oomph (like you would while keeping your cheekweld) made it feed flawlessly.

 

[RussW1911]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwalk3r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had the pleasure of firing about a dozen rounds through a .308 Covert. I think the extractor had issues (I was told it was a new bolt), as well over half the brass didn't properly eject when cycling the bolt. I therefore had to use my fingers to clear brass and spent and couldn't stay down.

I'm assuming it was an anomaly, but I wanted to bring up the point before chunking down serious coin on a different design. </div></div>

sandwalk3r, Mike told me about that issue. While embarrassing he was completely honest. He had a prototype of the new bolt design and it had an ejection issue. I had the same issue on mine. That's the nature of the beast with new products. Luckily he took his original spare bolt so the line didn't go down.

Hopefully you enjoyed that bullpup shoot. I would have loved to make it down there, but work has kept me on a short leash.

Let us know if you have any questions that need addressing. Mike is a wealth of knowledge.

 

[RussW1911]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dogtown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With the short action conversions you can't baby the bolt the way you can with the long action conversions. I had that same experience when I first shot a .308WIN conversion, but cycling the bolt with a bit more oomph (like you would while keeping your cheekweld) made it feed flawlessly. </div></div>

That is something that we have been working on Dogtown. The design guru has been addressing that very issue and hopefully the knew bolt design will offer clean ejection no matter how slow you run the bolt.

Russ

 

[propulsionclimbing]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Is there any information available on the new bolt?

I understand it employs the same bolt for all caliber conversions with an interchangeable bolt face. Is that correct?

Some pics and or any information would be greatly appreciated.

 

[ney1]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

New bolt had a floating bolt head that detaches from the bolt assembly, it also has a must better extractor claw and stronger ejection springs. It is a great improvement over the old design but in making changes there is the occasional hickup or two unfortunately, but we are on top of things.

 

[propulsionclimbing]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nicholas Young</div><div class="ubbcode-body">New bolt had a floating bolt head that detaches from the bolt assembly, it also has a must better extractor claw and stronger ejection springs. It is a great improvement over the old design but in making changes there is the occasional hickup or two unfortunately, but we are on top of things.</div></div>

Thanks for the response, Nick.

I am thinking of purchasing a 7 WSM conversion kit. Will it come with the new bolt?

Are the interchangeable bolt heads available for purchase separately so I can use the new bolt with all of my conversions? If so, what would the cost be for each one?

Thanks

 

[PowerstrokeOBX]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I reallllly want a DTA, but they don't make a lefty version.

 

[chakup]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I have no idea how the price is in reality but there's a shop selling dtss on gunsamerica (or maybe it was gunauction) for just under $1K. Again I have no idea how that compares to "street price" and I have no affiliation, but compared to msrp seemed decent and thought I'd pass along

 

[SRSDriver]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwalk3r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">CBM - not calling out anyone's vids. I've been really close to getting one of these, so I have been looking up lots of videos. And it seems like everyone is doing this. </div></div>

I'd say it's a training fault or habit, not necessarily related to the gun, but possibly exacerbated when people get used to new ergos.

I used to pop up even on my other non DTA guns, till an instructor pointed it out. Now I just stay in position.

 

[Thor2j]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

You don't have to use the DTA brakes with the DTSS suppressors, you can screw the can right on to the 3/4x24 barrel end correct??

 

[uskgxh11]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

You are correct, but they make a brake with female and male threads to allow you to just screw on the suppressor over the brake. It comes with a thread protector. I keep one on each of my barrels. Euro Optic sold me mine. $180 bones each... Hope this helps

 

[uskgxh11]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Btw, my 338 Lapua barrel came with one, got an extra for my 308

 

[fireguyty]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Guys, Desert Tactical arms has decided to sponsor a special side match at the 2012 Las Vegas Invitational Crap Shoot!

During sight in, each competitor well get to take 3 shots at 100 yards with a SRS in 308 Winchester. The shooter with the tightest group will win 100 rounds of ammo.

I'm excited to see what the country's top tactical shooters can do with a DTA in their hands. Photo's and pictures to follow after this next weekends shoot.

Thanks for supporting the tactical shooting community DTA!

Ty

Link to the 2012 LVICS

 

[sandwalk3r]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RussW1911 ®</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
sandwalk3r, Mike told me about that issue. While embarrassing he was completely honest. He had a prototype of the new bolt design and it had an ejection issue. I had the same issue on mine. That's the nature of the beast with new products. Luckily he took his original spare bolt so the line didn't go down.

Hopefully you enjoyed that bullpup shoot. I would have loved to make it down there, but work has kept me on a short leash.

Let us know if you have any questions that need addressing. Mike is a wealth of knowledge. </div></div>

Thanks for the reply. I very much enjoyed the shoot. I'm selling a bunch of stuff to make room for a new rifle, so you all may very well get a call soon. I'm still on the fence on what to buy, but you guys and Mike especially have been great.

 

[ney1]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

All conversion kits are shipping with the new bolt from this point on, yes you can purchase the new bolts now. We are selling them as fully assembled for the same price as the old bolts were. If you just wanted to buy the bolt head we can accommodate that but haven't priced just the bolt heads yet.

 

[pharoh1]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

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[RollinCoal11]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Nice video pharaoh

 

[pharoh1]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Not mine, it's a local guy that does a lot of long range shooting. I'm saving up my pennies to get another dta from him.

 

[John D.]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

For whatever reason, I have tried to sell this rifle three different times as I really wanted to have a full custom rifle just for me. I had researched for months here and elsewhere and had even reached out to my choice, Mark at SAC, to build my stick.

Since I recieved this rifle in a trade, I never gave it a fair shake until recently. Man am I glad I did.

I am sure my SAC rifle would have been awesome but this rifle just fits me perfectly. I posted above in this thread that the only problem I had was my purchase of a Spuhr 4802 34mm/44moa that caused my S&B's objective bell to ever so slightly kiss the rail.

Yes, I took the hardest way out only because I could have it done instantly and perfectly. Only the rail was modded and since it is replaceable, no big deal.

I got this rifle back from DTA months ago after I sent it there for a tune up when I first got it. Everything was inspected, small parts were changed and the monopod was added. (This is a Gen I rifle)

I also bought all of the tools necessary to change barrels as the trade also included a complete, unused .338LM conversion kit. Since I have an EDM .408 that Mr. Richie was nice enough to make a .338 barrel and bolt for, I hope I can trade the .338 for a .300 someday and then maybe get into some other interesting calibers.

I bought one each of Zach's custom bolt knobs to try out. Both are better than stock but the round one is the heat. Highly recommended.

I'm in the queue for the custom nylon cheekpiece from Brian and I'm GTG for now.

BTW, ignore the angle indicator there. You can't see it. I lost the box and left it there for safekeeping until my Spuhr accessory rail comes in.

 

[ss10ring]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: conndcj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For whatever reason, I have tried to sell this rifle three different times as I really wanted to have a full custom rifle just for me. I had researched for months here and elsewhere and had even reached out to my choice, Mark at SAC, to build my stick.

Since I recieved this rifle in a trade, I never gave it a fair shake until recently. Man am I glad I did.

I am sure my SAC rifle would have been awesome but this rifle just fits me perfectly. I posted above in this thread that the only problem I had was my purchase of a Spuhr 4802 34mm/44moa that caused my S&B's objective bell to ever so slightly kiss the rail.

Yes, I took the hardest way out only because I could have it done instantly and perfectly. Only the rail was modded and since it is replaceable, no big deal.

I got this rifle back from DTA months ago after I sent it there for a tune up when I first got it. Everything was inspected, small parts were changed and the monopod was added. (This is a Gen I rifle)

I also bought all of the tools necessary to change barrels as the trade also included a complete, unused .338LM conversion kit. Since I have an EDM .408 that Mr. Richie was nice enough to make a .338 barrel and bolt for, I hope I can trade the .338 for a .300 someday and then maybe get into some other interesting calibers.

I bought one each of Zach's custom bolt knobs to try out. Both are better than stock but the round one is the heat. Highly recommended.

I'm in the queue for the custom nylon cheekpiece from Brian and I'm GTG for now.

BTW, ignore the angle indicator there. You can't see it. I lost the box and left it there for safekeeping until my Spuhr accessory rail comes in.

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Couldn't agree more on all points, I was in the same boat and Traded for mine added a SAC 6.5CM barrels (which is a laser) and both of Zaks bolt knobs too. I also just did the Covert setup and ran it out to 1K tonight with great results

 

[redd0311]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

What's zacks number for the bolt knobs?