Oh hell here we go, NRA just annouced......

[...]

Smart move from NRA and a move that makes perfect sense. Who can say, without flinching, that a ban against devices that turns SA rifles into FA shouldn't be banned, when the law clearly states that FA is illegal?

Should've been banned from the get go.

Having commonsense gun laws is not the same as having "them" taking your guns.

In Denmark we have to lock up our weapons in an EN 1143-1 grade safe, to prevent hardened criminals to get weapons and everyone gets a background check before getting weapon permit.

Makes total sense to me. I still own rifles and pistols.

Common sense.

1) you are a complete fucking moron.

2) FA are not illegal

3) Bump fire stocks do not turn a SA gun into FA

4) these "common sense" gun laws are not "common sense".

5) ANY gun laws in the US are unconstitutional

6) stop trying to export your serfdom to the US.

 

[FS1]

You want automatic weapons well then change the law. The bump stock in my opinion was looking for trouble from the get go. When you make a device to get around the law sooner or later the chickens come home to roost. I believe we were on the way to getting suppressors and national carry. But now because some a-holes had to game the law both are in doubt.

There is a right way and a wrong way and the bump stock was the wrong way. This is why the NRA asked for a review not legislation. If you let these effers in DC start crafting legislation it won't stop with bump stocks. IMHO gun owners who think they can just do what they want without repercussions are boning all of us in the ass. How about some common sense instead of rigid stupidity. JMHO

 

[...]

god when they come for your hunting rifles.....i dont want to hear you Fudds blubbering like a bunch of spineless pussies "oh how could this happen?! we gave them FA, SBRs, Silencers, slide fire stocks, Assault weapons, high cap mags, semi auto rifles and hand guns! why do they want more?!"

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

1) you are a complete fucking moron.

But I know how to behave. Try it, you might get some positive feedback in your life.

2) FA are not illegal

Well, sort off unless you find one from before 1986

3) Bump fire stocks do not turn a SA gun into FA

Tell that to the dead crowd

4) these "common sense" gun laws are not "common sense".

They do. You tell people you dont want full auto rifles and the people make a device that makes SA rifles act like full auto.

Thats like telling your kid not to climb over the fence because the road is dangerous and the kid crawls under instead and say that its okay, because it didnt climb OVER.

5) ANY gun laws in the US are unconstitutional

No. I'm not even American and I know more about your constitution then you do, I guess. You don't seem that American.

6) stop trying to export your serfdom to the US.

QQ

 

[...]

But I know how to behave. Try it, you might get some positive feedback in your life.




Well, sort off unless you find one from before 1986




Tell that to the dead crowd




They do. You tell people you dont want full auto rifles and the people make a device that makes SA rifles act like full auto.

Thats like telling your kid not to climb over the fence because the road is dangerous and the kid crawls under instead and say that its okay, because it didnt climb OVER.



No. I'm not even American and I know more about your constitution then you do, I guess. You don't seem that American.



QQ

Hmmmmm....please tell me about my constitution?.....

last i checked the 2A read "...shall not be infringed".....seems pretty clear cut and dry to me.......but maybe the dutch have some other meaning for the words "shall"..."not"..."be"....and "infringed".....please educate me


and about my manners.....go fuck yourself.....i have no patients for liberal cucks from other countries telling me how to live

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

Hmmmmm....please tell me about my constitution?.....

last i checked the 2A read "...shall not be infringed".....seems pretty clear cut and dry to me.......

The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms and was adopted on December 15, 1791, as part of the first ten amendments contained in the Bill of Rights.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the right belongs to individuals,[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP] while also ruling that the right is not unlimited and does not prohibit all regulation of either firearms or similar devices.[SUP][7][/SUP]State and local governments are limited to the same extent as the federal government from infringing this right per the incorporation of the Bill of Rights.

....so, read a book! You're pretty ignorant!

but maybe the dutch have some other meaning for the words "shall"..."not"..."be"....and "infringed".....please educate me
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I'm not Dutch, so I wouldn't know, but I feel like you should get a refund on your "education" if you think Danes are Dutch

and about my manners.....go fuck yourself.....i have no patients for liberal cucks from other countries telling me how to live

Thanks

willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
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favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
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About that education refund.... get your money back. You obviously didn't get taught what Liberal means. A lot is missing. Knowledge. Behavior. Common Sense. Money back, now!

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

I don't give a damn what you do in Denmark and by definition you don't have a dog in this fight - so STFU.

So when people don't agree with you, freedom of Speech isn't important? That's pretty unamerican. That's the First Amendment.... you know, before the Second, which you hold so dear!

 

[...]

So when people don't agree with you, freedom of Speech isn't important? That's pretty unamerican. That's the First Amendment.... you know, before the Second, which you hold so dear!

1) you dont have a first ammendment right, youre not american.

2) you have every right to say the stupid shit you say......and we have every right to tell you to stfu....amazing how that works

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

1) you dont have a first ammendment right, youre not american.

Well, lucky for, it's also a part of the Human Rights bill, which USA has signed, so I don't need you amendment to have freedom of speech in the US

2) you have every right to say the stupid shit you say......and we have every right to tell you to stfu....amazing how that works

The only one who has said stupid shit is you. So, maybe this is one of those times where you should count to ten....or get some anger management?

 

[...]

The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms and was adopted on December 15, 1791, as part of the first ten amendments contained in the Bill of Rights.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the right belongs to individuals,[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP] while also ruling that the right is not unlimited and does not prohibit all regulation of either firearms or similar devices.[SUP][7][/SUP]State and local governments are limited to the same extent as the federal government from infringing this right per the incorporation of the Bill of Rights.

....so, read a book! You're pretty ignorant!

The govt ( supreme court) has no say in regulating the 2A.....as the 2A is put in place to regulate the govt.......their decision is infact unconstitutional.

thats like a cop pulling me over for speeding and me going" yeah but in this case i can speed" and the cop letting me go.

unlike europe, we do not derive our power feom the govt........we are born with unlimited freedom, and we, the people, grant our govt permission to operate within the bounds of the constitution.....and the govt has 0 power to tell us how to interpet the 2A

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

Now you're just trolling.

Well, stay stupid and you'll surely lose all your weapons.

 

[...]

Now you're just trolling.

Well, stay stupid and you'll surely lose all your weapons.

Cant disprove argument.....instantly claims other person is a troll.....liberal tactic 101

 

[...]

I realize having actual freedom.....and being able to tell your govt what to do is a strange and foreign concept to you serfs in europe........but that is actually how we operate here in the states.

hence the reason for the 2A

 

[K-tech]

Kristian, do you really think that a bump fire stock made that man more effective? The guy had 11 minutes of uninterrupted shooting time at roughly 300 yards, if he would've used those 11 minutes to take aimed shots there would've been a lot more people killed. All they are trying to do is make rapid fire the new full auto, vaguely define the term so they can manipulate it to include other semi automatic down the road with no further legislation required

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

Yeah, you're pretty free.

You're so free that you can fish without a license.


Drive a car without a license.


Drive a car without using the seat belt.

Drink in public at the age of 16.... Oh wait, that's only on Europe.


Oh, but at least your freedom guarantees you the right to get the education you want, rich or poor.... Oh wait. Nevermind.


Tell me more about 'murican freedom.

 

[K-tech]

I know I'm being petty, but can people stop using the term "bump stock" like a bunch of noobs, bump-fire or slide-fire is the correct term describing the technique you do to fire the weapon

 

[...]

Yeah, you're pretty free.

You're so free that you can fish without a license

Drive a car without a license

Drive a car without using the seat belt.

Drink in public at the age of 16.... Oh wait, that's only on Europe.

Oh, but at least your freedom guarantees you the right to get the education you want, rich or poor.... Oh wait. Nevermind.

Tell me more about 'murican freedom

Fishing and hunting licenses were put in place by hunting advocacy groups to aid in conservation efforts to wnsure a healthy supply of animals......

driving is not a constitutionally protected right

perfectly legal to drive without a seatbelt

education is not a guranteed right

we believe in doing for yourself.....not having the govt do for us......that is freedom.

if all you have is alcohol, your argument is pretty weak

 

[WATERWALKER]

Smart move from NRA and a move that makes perfect sense. Who can say, without flinching, that a ban against devices that turns SA rifles into FA shouldn't be banned, when the law clearly states that FA is illegal?

Should've been banned from the get go.

Having commonsense gun laws is not the same as having "them" taking your guns.

In Denmark we have to lock up our weapons in an EN 1143-1 grade safe, to prevent hardened criminals to get weapons and everyone gets a background check before getting weapon permit.

Makes total sense to me. I still own rifles and pistols.

Common sense.

No one will dispute the that Paddock was an evil person. His actions were horrible. Paddock will be remembered as nothing more than a piece of shit.

That being said, you're not from the United States & I don't expect you to understand our culture or our way of life. We're born free men. We answer only to ourselves as long as we conduct ourselves as decent people and do not infringe on the rights of others. Do you understand what it is to be truly free? I seriously doubt that you do. You live in Europe where y'all not only tolerate socialism, you (as a whole) willingly run to it w/ open arms. The spirit of individual freedom thrives here. We do not live under any Marxist ideals. We are free to do as we see fit. You answer to the state & you live as you are told to live. That is the difference between ourselves & you.

 

[Holliday]

We have a 2nd Amendment. In the US Constitutionally speaking, a gun is akin to a book or printing press ( ie the first Amendment) not a car. Cars (or horse and carriage) are not mentioned .

Attempting to apply eurocentric laws and rationales to the United States is utterly anti-intellectual until you show me your equivalent of the second amendment, guaranteeing the right to bear arms.....

Meanwhile in England there is a movement to ban pointed kitchen knives and In Ireland They have already banned glass beer steins from bars lest they be used as weapons .....

 

[Veer_G]

I know I'm being petty, but can people stop using the term "bump stock" like a bunch of noobs, bump-fire or slide-fire is the correct term describing the technique you do to fire the weapon

"This is my boom-stick whackita-whackita shoulder thing that goes up."

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[Holliday]

I know I'm being petty, but can people stop using the term "bump stock" like a bunch of noobs, bump-fire or slide-fire is the correct term describing the technique you do to fire the weapon

I must admit I don’t know a lot about these items. Since I’ve done bumpfiire I know that is an action, not a device but I thought the generic vernacular for the stock was “bump stock”?

signed, bump-stock noob

 

[Veer_G]

Bear with us, Christy Anne. We're learning appropriate Danish in order to give you the clear-cut response that you so richly deserve.

http://www.speakdanish.dk/en/phrases/0260-swearing.php

 

[...]

What a lot of foreigners....and hell even most people here dont realize is.....the BOR does not grant any rights......

all of our rights are granted to us by our creator at birth...they are "god given rights"......

what the BOR does is place restrictions on the govt.

if i tell you that someones right to eat cake "shall not be infringed"........you cannot then come and tell me " yes but he can only eat cake with a license, and he can only eat this kind of cake"........you cannot say that because you do not have the authority to do so........and it is their roght to tell you to go screw

 

[Holliday]

What a lot of foreigners....and hell even most people here dont realize is.....the BOR does not grant any rights......

Exactly . Unlike other countries however, it does enumerate them and codify them into US Constitutional law.

 

[Holliday]

Bear with us, Christy Anne. We're learning appropriate Danish in order to give you the clear-cut response that you so richly deserve.

http://www.speakdanish.dk/en/phrases/0260-swearing.php

LMAO! Jesus dude! I sprayed coffee all over my iPad reading that one......

 

[K-tech]

I must admit I don’t know a lot about these items. Since I’ve done bumpfiire I know that is an action, not a device but I thought the generic vernacular for the stock was “bump stock”?

signed, bump-stock noob

I had never heard them called bump stocks until after this shooting by the media

 

[Veer_G]

LMAO! Jesus dude! I sprayed coffee all over my iPad reading that one......

Hold on there, Hop-along. We got The Dude, and we got The Jesus. I'm waaaaaaaay more Dude, and a lot, lot, lot less Jesus, no matter how biblical I look, or how well I habla.

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Now go fetch me a good sarsparilla soda-pop, would ya?

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[1J04]

Bear with us, Christy Anne. We're learning appropriate Danish in order to give you the clear-cut response that you so richly deserve.

http://www.speakdanish.dk/en/phrases/0260-swearing.php

You Evil Bastard......... lmfao

 

[ArmyJerry]

best to butt your foreign nose out of our business. You got some women getting raped at will in your town by refugees you should go protect them.

But I know how to behave. Try it, you might get some positive feedback in your life.




Well, sort off unless you find one from before 1986




Tell that to the dead crowd




They do. You tell people you dont want full auto rifles and the people make a device that makes SA rifles act like full auto.

Thats like telling your kid not to climb over the fence because the road is dangerous and the kid crawls under instead and say that its okay, because it didnt climb OVER.



No. I'm not even American and I know more about your constitution then you do, I guess. You don't seem that American.



QQ

 

[chorizo]

QQ, Please STFU or you can go FY.

Only one thing pisses me off more than a European telling me what my rights should be is a European who's ASS we had to save telling me about my rights. (Especially fucking Brits who ended up begging for all of our civilian guns because they had banned all of theirs.)

Go unass your own socialist fucked up country full of jihadists before you run your suck.

 

[Rldr-08]

QQ, Please STFU or you can go FY.

Only one thing pisses me off more than a European telling me what my rights should be is a European who's ASS we had to save telling me about my rights. (Especially fucking Brits who ended up begging for all of our civilian guns because they had banned all of theirs.)

Go unass your own socialist fucked up country full of jihadists before you run your suck.

Absolutely.

You know the other day I'm kinda like "who cares about bump fires, they really skirted the law anyways"

The more I thought about it the more I think "fuck that, I'm not giving in anything, to hell with liberals."

If someone wants to own a bump fire or hell 1000 bump fire stocks then more power to them. This is America, far too many men and woman have paid the ultimate sacrifice so that we can live our lives in freedom, a freedom that is unknown to any other country in the world.





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[pitdog85]

So good to see the fight in people here don't give them a damn inch although I'm not an American I'm Australian I can only dream of a 2A. To give you some idea for those who are unaware of what happens to gun laws without a 2A.

Bolt action guns that look "scary or of military appearance" have recently been banned in AUS there is a thread about it on here for desert tac rifles. So guns can be banned based on what they look like. Recently lever action shot guns that have a mag capacity of 7 rounds have been considered rapid fire and a threat and have effectively been banned to 99% of the population. Pump action shot guns banned to 99% of the population. All it will take for bolt guns to be banned is a legal bolt gun owner to use it to murder more than 4 people and they will be banned to.

Its all good though we have "refugees" in Melbourne and other parts of the country breaking into and raping and assaulting people in there house left right and centre because they know everyone apart from criminals are unarmed. The answer call the police!!! that's all good they will be there in 15mins when the criminals are done. I'm just waiting for the authorities to give us the advice like they gave them over in England with Muslim terrorists running riot "run hide tell" that's the answer to people walking around stabbing people!!!

Anyway the moral of the story no doubt without your 2A the left of your country would let you become this. Don't give them an inch.

 

[Rldr-08]

So good to see the fight in people here don't give them a damn inch although I'm not an American I'm Australian I can only dream of a 2A. To give you some idea for those who are unaware of what happens to gun laws without a 2A.

Bolt action guns that look "scary or of military appearance" have recently been banned in AUS there is a thread about it on here for desert tac rifles. So guns can be banned based on what they look like. Recently lever action shot guns that have a mag capacity of 7 rounds have been considered rapid fire and a threat and have effectively been banned to 99% of the population. Pump action shot guns banned to 99% of the population. All it will take for bolt guns to be banned is a legal bolt gun owner to use it to murder more than 4 people and they will be banned to.

Its all good though we have "refugees" in Melbourne and other parts of the country breaking into and raping and assaulting people in there house left right and centre because they know everyone apart from criminals are unarmed. The answer call the police!!! that's all good they will be there in 15mins when the criminals are done. I'm just waiting for the authorities to give us the advice like they gave them over in England with Muslim terrorists running riot "run hide tell" that's the answer to people walking around stabbing people!!!

Anyway the moral of the story no doubt without your 2A the left of your country would let you become this. Don't give them an inch.

I find it truly amazing the foresight that our founders had. They new how truly important it was for citizens to be guaranteed the right to bear arms, and they solidified it within the bill of rights.




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[ArmyJerry]

if you have a family member assaulted you should hunt down the politician that allowed the foreigner in to do that and do the same to them.

So good to see the fight in people here don't give them a damn inch although I'm not an American I'm Australian I can only dream of a 2A. To give you some idea for those who are unaware of what happens to gun laws without a 2A.

Bolt action guns that look "scary or of military appearance" have recently been banned in AUS there is a thread about it on here for desert tac rifles. So guns can be banned based on what they look like. Recently lever action shot guns that have a mag capacity of 7 rounds have been considered rapid fire and a threat and have effectively been banned to 99% of the population. Pump action shot guns banned to 99% of the population. All it will take for bolt guns to be banned is a legal bolt gun owner to use it to murder more than 4 people and they will be banned to.

Its all good though we have "refugees" in Melbourne and other parts of the country breaking into and raping and assaulting people in there house left right and centre because they know everyone apart from criminals are unarmed. The answer call the police!!! that's all good they will be there in 15mins when the criminals are done. I'm just waiting for the authorities to give us the advice like they gave them over in England with Muslim terrorists running riot "run hide tell" that's the answer to people walking around stabbing people!!!

Anyway the moral of the story no doubt without your 2A the left of your country would let you become this. Don't give them an inch.

 

[Rthur]

So good to see the fight in people here don't give them a damn inch although I'm not an American I'm Australian I can only dream of a 2A. To give you some idea for those who are unaware of what happens to gun laws without a 2A.

Bolt action guns that look "scary or of military appearance" have recently been banned in AUS there is a thread about it on here for desert tac rifles. So guns can be banned based on what they look like. Recently lever action shot guns that have a mag capacity of 7 rounds have been considered rapid fire and a threat and have effectively been banned to 99% of the population. Pump action shot guns banned to 99% of the population. All it will take for bolt guns to be banned is a legal bolt gun owner to use it to murder more than 4 people and they will be banned to.

Its all good though we have "refugees" in Melbourne and other parts of the country breaking into and raping and assaulting people in there house left right and centre because they know everyone apart from criminals are unarmed. The answer call the police!!! that's all good they will be there in 15mins when the criminals are done. I'm just waiting for the authorities to give us the advice like they gave them over in England with Muslim terrorists running riot "run hide tell" that's the answer to people walking around stabbing people!!!

Anyway the moral of the story no doubt without your 2A the left of your country would let you become this. Don't give them an inch.

Sorry to say but this was the intention all along.
Something about a frog and slowly bringing the water to a boil...

R

 

[WaltHer]

Smart move from NRA and a move that makes perfect sense. Who can say, without flinching, that a ban against devices that turns SA rifles into FA shouldn't be banned, when the law clearly states that FA is illegal?

Should've been banned from the get go.

Having commonsense gun laws is not the same as having "them" taking your guns.

In Denmark we have to lock up our weapons in an EN 1143-1 grade safe, to prevent hardened criminals to get weapons and everyone gets a background check before getting weapon permit.

Makes total sense to me. I still own rifles and pistols.

Common sense.

Just curious Sir, did you have to get written consent from your King or some burecratic entity to have a membership on a a firearms blog or is that still okay in Denmark?

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

Hillbilly Redneck mentality level 200 achieved.


Congratulations.

 

[Veer_G]

Hillbilly Redneck mentality level 200 achieved.


Congratulations.

I have a conscience. Many of us do. We don't need you in that respect. What purpose do you serve here?

I'll say this, though. Your grandma sure was a hot little Nazi.
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[Kristian_Jensen]

I have a conscience. Many of us do. We don't need you in that respect. What purpose do you serve here?

I'll say this, though. Your grandma sure was a hot little Nazi.

And your dad was a baby killer and a rapist in Vietnam....what's your point?

 

[Steel+Killer]

In Denmark we have to lock up our weapons in an EN 1143-1 grade safe, to prevent hardened criminals to get weapons

Wait how the hell do have hardened criminals in the first place with such strict gun laws and all the guns being locked up. Are you saying even with all those tough gun laws people still commit violent crime? That just makes no sense.....so do y’all get some sort of head start to retrieve your weapons when being attacked?

 

[Holliday]

“In Denmark”......lmao Jesus Christ....

 

[K-tech]

And your dad was a baby killer and a rapist in Vietnam....what's your point?

If you actually took the time to research that conflict you would realize that all the Hollywood/progressive/hippy propaganda that the US soldier was some sort of monster was almost entirely fiction. In contrast, the communist forces you are insinuating are the "good guys" butchered people by the thousands and burned entire villages with the intention of making the US look guilty for it. Look if you want to come here and learn some things about US politics and debate a few things that is fine, but if you're here to spew garbage like this, please leave

 

[Holliday]

If you actually took the time to research that conflict you would realize that all the Hollywood/progressive/hippy propaganda that the US soldier was some sort of monster was almost entirely fiction. In contrast, the communist forces you are insinuating are the "good guys" butchered people by the thousands and burned entire villages with the intention of making the US look guilty for it. Look if you want to come here and learn some things about US politics and debate a few things that is fine, but if you're here to spew garbage like this, please leave

Hey it’s en vogue to bash Americans .....on an internet created by Americans, on a forum owned and created by a former military American, from a country that would not likely would not exist without America. The plain fact of the matter is that without Americans the word would be one shitty place likely split between Nazi Germany, Russia and Imperial Japan.......

So go ahead and lecture us on our domestic rights again dipshit.......

 

[1J04]

I have a conscience. Many of us do. We don't need you in that respect. What purpose do you serve here?

I'll say this, though. Your grandma sure was a hot little Nazi.
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Am I wrong here, or is this just a co-winky dink?

 

[oneshot86]

dude
youre good

 

[sandwarrior]

A little history, courtesy of NPR, of all places, for the kids, about the last great NRA sell-out:

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpo...l-on-the-books

Put simply, NRA Wayne is a traitorously duplicitous bitch.

What's frustrating, is this goes right down the line with the 1934 NFA Act, that was challenged in the Supreme court, and pro-gun won. So, rather than being able to ban a weapon, any weapon, outright, the U.S. Gov't, TAXED them at a rate that was then atrocious to buy one.

The problem is, the 1986 act was never challenged in the Supreme Court where it would fail the Constitutional litmus test.

Added:

So good to see the fight in people here don't give them a damn inch although I'm not an American I'm Australian I can only dream of a 2A. To give you some idea for those who are unaware of what happens to gun laws without a 2A.

Bolt action guns that look "scary or of military appearance" have recently been banned in AUS there is a thread about it on here for desert tac rifles. So guns can be banned based on what they look like. Recently lever action shot guns that have a mag capacity of 7 rounds have been considered rapid fire and a threat and have effectively been banned to 99% of the population. Pump action shot guns banned to 99% of the population. All it will take for bolt guns to be banned is a legal bolt gun owner to use it to murder more than 4 people and they will be banned to.

Its all good though we have "refugees" in Melbourne and other parts of the country breaking into and raping and assaulting people in there house left right and centre because they know everyone apart from criminals are unarmed. The answer call the police!!! that's all good they will be there in 15mins when the criminals are done. I'm just waiting for the authorities to give us the advice like they gave them over in England with Muslim terrorists running riot "run hide tell" that's the answer to people walking around stabbing people!!!

Anyway the moral of the story no doubt without your 2A the left of your country would let you become this. Don't give them an inch.

What no one in the world sees in the "common-sense" gun laws is that you have exactly what pltdog85 describes, "gun violence isn't as high in totals, but VIOLENCE is" Gun violence is higher per capita in England and Australia where strict gun laws are in place.

 

[QuickNDirty]

NRA the next NFL?

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2017/10/0...ent=2017-10-10&utm_campaign=Weekly Newsletter

From a statement published on the Military Arms Channel Facebook page:

Effective Immediately: I withdraw my support for the NRA until further notice. I have suspended all support and recruiting efforts. The next couple of videos I have are already edited and have a request for you to join. Please ignore that request. I am currently traveling but will remove the link in my future videos to the NRA website. I will be speaking with NRA leadership soon (hopefully) and if their position is to negotiate in any way whatsoever with anti-gun forces my future support will end and I will resign my membership.​

 

[pmclaine]

Exactly . Unlike other countries however, it does enumerate them and codify them into US Constitutional law.

And there was a huge argument about doing so to the point they considered scrapping the idea of "United" in United States.

One side felt enumerating the untouchable rights we enjoy would leave things not listed as open to govt abuse.

The other side felt it was so important to not violate these rights they wanted to memorialize them in the "hands off" section of the Constitution.

As per usual our Founding Fathers were in general better than Nostradamus, if a little sloppy with their commas, just unable to predict how stupid modern Americans would be in their understanding of human nature and political philosophy thus opening a slim door for interpretation that which they intended through the language of their time to be crystal clear.

 

[Holliday]

People need to do as their conscience demands. I for one will remain a supporter of the NRA. I’ve been in the trenches side by side with them at the Colorado Legislature during the 2013 gun law fight and they do good work.

Also our world class public range probably couldn’t exist without the NRA range safety officer certifications that allow us to have insurance and operate. In the winter, I sometimes shoot out of a heated building , that was granted to us as a gift from the NRA. In Colorado they sent a team of consultants to assist with the building of a free public range there on public land.

The US gun community is an extended family and we all have various differering priorities. We’re not always going to agree and it times were going to have passionate disagreements. But I personally think that jumping ship at least for me is just that, jumping ship, so I’ll stay on board and fight the good fight as long as I can .......

Having said that, I’ll continue to stand up and be vocal when I do disagree with the NRA, as I did in the Philando Castile case and in this recent bump-stock case.........

 

[pmclaine]

Ill stick with the NRA.

If every gun owner were a member and voted/donated on this sole issue the anti 2A pols could be told to bite a dick.

Im glad people have voiced their displeasure as it seems to have pulled Wayne back from the brink and now instead of the NRA supporting a ban on the slide fire devices its a case of "take it to the legislature" and review it through debate rather than through imposition.

Despite their warts they still seem to do a better job than any other at bringing the fight.

I really could do without their Chinese cheap shit they offer though put that money back into the ILA fund.

Realize when you send your dues to the NRA your membership money can not be used for political purposes. The dues money is required to be used for safety, firearms training, the magazine and supporting firearms activities.

If you want the NRA to do legal/political things you need to donate to the ILA arm of the NRA, their lobbying group.

Id say most of the NRa money goes to just the promotion of firearms and not so much the ILA end of things.

I agree the NRA does do some stupid stuff - Harry Reid - but that vote was bought on one issue building whatever shooting facility Harry tried to close by eliminating firearms as soon as he was re-elected. They need to get better at looking beyond one issue to some extent and bedfellows that wont be so odious in general.

Still hedge your bets don't rely on just the NRA. Support your states rights group and I am liking Jay Sekulows American Center for Law and Justice. The ACLJ seems to do a good job at fighting for overall good governance based on the Constitution.