Opinions on best billet lower with most features etc

#52
Wilson doesn't offer just a lower or matched set. Have to buy the whole damn rifle. I like them though! I have a Seekins w/ the Controlled Chaos markings and it's awesome. Also have a Mega Maten monolithic. Both are nice but I think the Seekins wins by a hair in quality.
 
#53
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#54
KR24 said:
Wilson doesn't offer just a lower or matched set. Have to buy the whole damn rifle. I like them though! I have a Seekins w/ the Controlled Chaos markings and it's awesome. Also have a Mega Maten monolithic. Both are nice but I think the Seekins wins by a hair in quality.
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Oh Yea?

Wilson Combat BILLet, Matched Upper and Lower Receiver | GUNSANDTACTICS.COM
http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Billet-...-Style-Matched-Set/productinfo/TR-LOWUPP-BIL/

Might want to rethink that last statement.
 
#59
Cobracutter said:
There is zero benefit with a billet lower and in exchange for that, you get a cost and weight penaltly.
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Not true. Various billet lowers have features not available on standard forged lowers.

For example:
- a set screw instead of a roll pin for the bolt release
- a set screw to tighten the lower to the upper
- a set screw for the safety spring retention
- an ambi mag release
- a grip surface on the front of the magwell
- an integrated larger trigger guard
- an integrated sling swivel mount

and maybe others I'm missing. Much more than zero. Others feel it's worth it just for the aesthetics so, while you don't consider that a benefit, they do every time they look at it or show it off.
 
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#60
Dave 8210,

Wow, that is a nice looking rifle. I like the rounded edges on Wilson Combat lowers, and the mag well flare looks very generous! I have Black Rain lower and the sharp edges are less than diserable for me without gloves. Lastly, I would be scared to put on scratch on that beauty. Very NICE!

BC
 
#64
BELLYCRAWL said:
Dave 8210,

Wow, that is a nice looking rifle. I like the rounded edges on Wilson Combat lowers, and the mag well flare looks very generous! I have Black Rain lower and the sharp edges are less than diserable for me without gloves. Lastly, I would be scared to put on scratch on that beauty. Very NICE!

BC
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Thanks BC
 
#65
I've always liked the Seekins lowers. Like others have said, there are a lot of "good" billet lowers on the market these days and even better they are in stock most places! These days I'm liking JoeBobOutfitters.com for good prices and great variety.

Also, check out Spikes Tactical Enhanced lower parts kits, a really good value for what you get - Spike's Tactical Enhanced Lower Parts Kit

Spikes Tactical has a billet lower called the Hellbreaker that I think has one of the most unique looks to it, but it is on the pricey side... Hellbreaker Billet Stripped Lower [STLB500] - $299.95 : Spikes Tactical
 

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#66
Although I've never had one in my hands I think I will be getting the new Fully ambi SanTan billet lower. Ambi mag release, ambi bolt release and built in ambi QD sling mounts. Throw an ambi safety selector and you are gtg.
 
#71
Kubitza123 said:
Well i snagged this lower, i'll see how it fits up and if its not for me i'll build one .

Heres the details on it, and yes its all new:

APA billet lower
Jard trigger
PRS stock
JP silent buffer setup
ucwrg grip
kns pins
all other parts are milspec

If i like it i'll try my CAA ARS stock on it and pic one of the two stocks and sell the other.

See what you think fellas
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Needs a fire selector & get rid of the 2x4 stock, think light
 
#74
Kamkaze said:
Although I've never had one in my hands I think I will be getting the new Fully ambi SanTan billet lower. Ambi mag release, ambi bolt release and built in ambi QD sling mounts. Throw an ambi safety selector and you are gtg.
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Her is another person with two thumbs an a trigger finger that can lift the world, an pick his nose w/it while still on the grip.
 
#75
Waiting for UPS to get here, had to send two complete uppers back, waiting they are on the truck out for delivery. Went to UPS hub yesterday to pick them up, they told me they could not release them earlier than there delivery date, I could put them on will call an come back today! MFAH's "MAD"
 
#76
Jaytil said:
Not true. Various billet lowers have features not available on standard forged lowers.

For example:
- a set screw instead of a roll pin for the bolt release "if the pin hole is the same size as in the bolt release"
- a set screw to tighten the lower to the upper "this just pushes the two apart"
- a set screw for the safety spring retention
- an ambi mag release " if you can work it with your trigger finger"
- a grip surface on the front of the magwell "this may not be the balance point for a good hold"
- an integrated larger trigger guard "yes & no"
- an integrated sling swivel mount "NO"

and maybe others I'm missing. Much more than zero. Others feel it's worth it just for the aesthetics so, while you don't consider that a benefit, they do every time they look at it or show it off.
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this your yes & my no.
 
#79
Kamkaze said:
No here is a person who shoots left handed primarily but shoots right handed occasionally too therefore I like ambidextrous controls.
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I'm right-handed, but I like having ambidextrous controls. I use my thumb to set a rifle on fire, and I use my index finger to put it back on safe. I'm not sure what Tipper's problem is?

Billet isn't for everybody, but I like having more options than less.
 
#80
R.O.U.S. said:
I'm right-handed, but I like having ambidextrous controls. I use my thumb to set a rifle on fire, and I use my index finger to put it back on safe. I'm not sure what Tipper's problem is?

Billet isn't for everybody, but I like having more options than less.
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I'm not sure either. In another thread (Coyote Killer) he recommended and linked to a Franklin AR that has a PRS and the upper/lower tension screw that he is now bashing in this thread.

I agree that those features I listed aren't for everyone, but they certainly are great for some and I prefer more choices as well.
 
#81
tipper said:
Her is another person with two thumbs an a trigger finger that can lift the world, an pick his nose w/it while still on the grip.
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Not sure why you keep referencing 2 thumbs, but an ambi safety is manipulated off by the thumb, and on with the index finger. Pretty handy once you try it. (Plus its set up for off hand shots now)
 
#84
The sling port on that Franklin is interesting. Having a flared magwell integrated might just be one of the most compelling features of a billet lower too.

I don't visit the semi-auto section here often enough so it is interesting to see so many seekins fans. Their billet uppers are pretty amazing too. The sp3g benefits from mounting the forearm to the receiver and therefore not putting stresses on the barrel/barrel nut when you are leaning into a bipod. Whether or not you believe that makes it a truly free-floating barrel, it also has a huge mounting surface with a tight fit between forearm and receiver. It is very solid and feels like a monolithic upper.
I do like my NSR on a lightweight carbine but it flexes too much with a bipod in my opinion.
 

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