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My Area419 knob and adaptor arrive today. Feels different working the action but I like it. I definitely have a more positive grip on it. Your thumbs always finds its way into the groove and that helps pushing the bolt forward.
Mine was supposed to arrive today, but got sent to the wrong post office. How different are we talking
That's good, current set up feels weird after I bent the bolt handle stud trying to get a stuck round out of the chamber
Chambers fine, I shot the rest of the match with out a hiccup. The issue seemed to be the piece of brass I attempted to chamber was swollen just above the web causing it to go in until it jammed the action solid. I might of also used a dead blow hammer to get it unstuck
If you order today, 2-4 weeks. It's been anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks depending on where production sits on bolt heads and bolt bodies.
Got mine this morning and it definitely feels different but should be easy to adapt to
I got my area 419 bolt handles (one for origin and one for tenacity) yesterday but haven't had a chance to put them on. really looking forward to changing out the tenacity.
Unfortunately that sounds like every other gun shop swag out there. I'm not too large of a guy wearing a 2xl but i can never get a shirt from this sport / hobby to fit.
all goodI really hope they don't make us wait for a shot show release .....
Yeah unfortunately I'll end up buying a Defiance Tenacity by then if that's the case. I cant wait that long. I need that rifle for 3 hunting trips next fall and need time to load develop and practice.
i use a possom hollow. no issues here. didnt with mausingfield either for reference
FYI, Bighorn release the LA Origin today.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/from-zai-origin-long-action.6960815/
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/from-zai-origin-long-action.6960815/
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I know I shouldn't have looked at this thread, I'll now have to grab a LA Origin. Still haven't even gotten around to shooting my SA Origin as I was waiting for TT to release their two stage trigger. Guess I'll grab two TT's next month Black Friday Sales and be done with it.
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Alright guys so I've been having issues with light primers strikes recently. Today I had 6 during a match.
I few of them would go off after a restrike. But all went off in another rifle so the primers are good but light dimples on the primer. I have about 1100 rounds on this action. So I dont think it would worn out. I checked the firing pin indicator on the back of the bolt shroud. It appears it doesn't that the firing pin doesn't stick as far back when the bolt is down compared to when the bolt is up.
Any recommendations to fixing this issue?
I few of them would go off after a restrike. But all went off in another rifle so the primers are good but light dimples on the primer. I have about 1100 rounds on this action. So I dont think it would worn out. I checked the firing pin indicator on the back of the bolt shroud. It appears it doesn't that the firing pin doesn't stick as far back when the bolt is down compared to when the bolt is up.
Any recommendations to fixing this issue?
I actually just check shoulder set back again to just to be safe and I am about 2 thousandths set back.
Did that as well.
I wouldn't be to worried right now if my tl3 build was up and running. Just trying to finish up this years local matches up with a competitive score.
Maybe I'll just move my barrel over to the tl3 and use that and send my origin back to have them look it over.
Probably a good choice.
If you need a spacer cause you have shouldered origin barrels lmk I'll send you one
I've been meaning to buy one lately. I might take you up on that offer.
If the firing pin is not protruding from the back of the shroud as much as it once did it may have come loose.
Check to see if the firing pin can rotate and if the set screws in the cocking piece have backed out.
If the screw may be dragging or the firing pin has loosened and is causing it to have less fall.
Please feel free to call if you are still having problems.
-Aaron-
TL3 and Origin Firing pins are not interchangeable they are different lengths.
Short action Origin and TL3/SR3 bolts are not interchangeable. The bolt heads are interchangeable across all platforms, but not the bolt bodies or firing pin assemblies. This is the same reason SA TL3/SR3 shouldered pre-fit barrels are not interchangeable with SA Origin's or their barrels.
What you're seeing is fall on close if the indicator is further forward when the bolt is closed over a trigger than when it is opened. If you've corrected cock on close, this can happen pretty easily. Or, like Aaron said, the set screws in the cocking piece that lock it in place on the firing pin have come loose and the cocking piece is working off the threads of the firing pin and shortening the firing pin fall.
If the cocking piece and set screw issue is not what's happening, please let us know and we'll work through it with you to figure out what exactly is happening.
Thank you - Ray
What you're seeing is fall on close if the indicator is further forward when the bolt is closed over a trigger than when it is opened. If you've corrected cock on close, this can happen pretty easily. Or, like Aaron said, the set screws in the cocking piece that lock it in place on the firing pin have come loose and the cocking piece is working off the threads of the firing pin and shortening the firing pin fall.
If the cocking piece and set screw issue is not what's happening, please let us know and we'll work through it with you to figure out what exactly is happening.
Thank you - Ray
I was looking for your post I remember seeing didnt realize it was that recent. I'll give this a try when I get home. And let everyone know what happens
Well I followed the directions and added a more firing pin protrusion to the back of the bolt. I have another local match next weekend so well figure out if it work. Thanks again everyone and all the responses and support from the bighorn team!
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The post above you mention the Origin's pin protrusion from the shroud?
If so, what would be the correct protrusion for the TL3 (open bolt)?
I have both actions. have not built/assembled the TL3 yet (no trigger attached yet but will be using a TT Diamond), but looking at pin protrusion, seems like the Origin has almost 2x as much.
Is this OK?
as i understand it the Origin and TL3 bolt are slightly different (Bolt heads are the same).
Thanks!
Yep, that's about right. The TL3 will be between .040" and .045" when the bolt is open.
The Origin has .050" more firing pin fall than the TL3 so, theoretically, you're going to see .040" from the TL3 and .090" from the Origin
Thanks - Ray
Just got my second bolt head in, fits and functions just fine. Although it has a slightly different sound/feel to it. Not as silky as the other one. Anybody have this? I assume itll go away as play with it enough.
I just got off the phone with @Zermatt Arms and I have to say their customer service is by far the best I’ve ever dealt with. Having an issue with my origin and Ray is taking care of it right away. Can’t ask for anything more than that. Great job!
Ray is a good guy, he’s helped me out quite a few times
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