The problem is that you are thinking on the aggregates when real life economics happens at the margins. It isn't a choice about substituting an entire years work for an entire years payout, but the marginal value of each hour worked, and in your example, it is nil, nil then close to nil. People aren't explaining it correctly because they understand it intuitively, but they are correct in what they are saying.
I know plenty of people that are sitting at home doing nothing. If you add in the extra money for unemployment benefits for kids and not having to pay daycare, that 20% you calculated is gone. Then they are money ahead at that point. No gas money to go to work as well...
This is exactly right. For better or worse, most of our social benefit plans are modulated to create a situation in which there is always a marginal benefit to produce more. In theory, at least. In other words, we structure it so that the more that you do, always the more that you get. Whether that is marginalism in the tax rate, or in the welfare sphere. With recent moves we have completely crossed the line into disincentivizing work through a number of whole chunk payouts, and we are just seeing the results of those actions.
Look at the new child tax credit advancement starting in July to see if that makes it any clearer about what is going on.
Fuck no, they are smarter than some of us in my opinion. I'd do it in a heartbeat since my insurance is through my wife. Shoot 3-4 times a week, go fishing and spend time with my dogs while the government pays my bills. What's not to like...
The velvet handcuffs are stage 1 of socialism. Stay home, no upward mobility. Then trapped, no options but the big G. That's what's not to like. Our population is walking right up to the ledge of something very destructive while they are being given cake and rose sunglasses. It is this dissatisfaction with their condition eventually that will lead to a revolution that creates the groundswell for Bernie Sanders types to actually get what they want - socialist America. And it will end up being even worse than it is now.
Stick around...... change is on the way. It will be painful
It's already here to an extent and is coming in hot regardless of what I do. So again, what's not to like? I could take a year off and have no issues finding a job turning wrenches. There is no shortage of jobs for my profession.
Self worth, value to your community and country come immediately to mind. But, if your moral compass is that fucked up, feel free to join the rest of the bottom feeders that are perfectly capable of working, could find a job but have chosen a path of societal worthlessness. My sincere hope is that you teach no one your ethics.
Enlighten me. I would be very glad to eat crow. Wouldn't be the first time I misunderstood something on the internet.
If you wanted proof their is a God, there you go.
Whether anyone takes the money or not doesn't matter at this point. It's spent regardless. I don't blame those any longer that make use of the system as it's corrupt to the core. We allowed the system to exist so why bother getting upset about it if we are going to continue allowing it to exist. The fools are the ones who pay in their whole lives knowing that they are just getting fucked and that the politicians are stealing the money to enrich themselves, their puppet masters, to buy votes, and maybe paving a road every now and again. There are far worse things than taking getting back a little money that was paid into the system.
People here are very sensitive when you step out of the group think line. Even if it is just a little. They enforce rigid order like the good little Maoists they don't even realize they are. It's kind of sad.
I can understand this position, but internally I cannot do this. It isn't who I am. This is the most evil thing about all of this; its taking people's independence and virtue because it appears that virtue is absent everywhere else. But do two wrongs make a right? Should my personal values be sacrificed because the values of the leadership have been? At what point do you compromise so much that you are no longer able to raise your head in self-worth? The chipping away of our identity as an individual does occur and I perceive this type of decision is moving along that path. I appreciate the clarification of the statement but I cant agree with it.
Couldn't have explained it any better at the point I was getting at. Apparently, my point was missed by a few. I'm working between 50-65 hours a week and have worked over 80 some weeks since overtime was lifted where I was working. Quit that job because of poor management with no notice and was working the following week. Still got 40 hours in that week even though I didn't start until Wednesday but I guess my moral compass is fucked
The questions you ask are similar to those I did. I agree with all the points you are making. I acknowledge the evil that you pointed out. I also believe we all enable it as we allow the system and the people that created it solely for their benefit, to exist. Is this not passive moral degradation? We are literally watching a revolution within our country taking place yet we sit idle because of fear of prosecution from our boys in blue if we were to really do what it takes to squash this shit which doing so is morally and ethically necessary.
I missed this, there aren't lots of teens wanting to make that. The business closed it's doors last week because they couldn't get enough help to run the place. They are hoping to open up again whenever the extra money runs out but doesn't sound promising.
I’ve always believed that if a kid wasn’t motivated to get his driver’s license as soon as possible that he/she isn’t worth the air they breathe. Kinda like how you can tell a lot about a man by how he parks.
There is a lot of hunger in America but it depends on your practical definition of the word.
Please consult this documentary to understand how it works.
