Maggie’s Police brutality?

[mj2evans]

Re: Police brutality?

Juggle animals acting like the animlas they are. Saw it in public school (nothing done then) and now society calls this behavior a "culture." Bullshit. You are either a citizen or a trouble maker - and the "black community" embraces trouble. Monday morning QB-ing the cop is pointless.

 

[jj302]

Re: Police brutality?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mj2evans</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Juggle animals acting like the animlas they are. Saw it in public school (nothing done then) and now society calls this behavior a "culture." Bullshit. You are either a citizen or a trouble maker - and the "black community" embraces trouble. Monday morning QB-ing the cop is pointless. </div></div>

Yup, a "culture" cultivated to sell records, clothes, shoes, ridiculously large rims etc. and convince black street youth that their true identity is that of an ignorant thug.
I think much of the blame lies with tipper gore and the medias fascination with vulgar gangster rap in the late 80's. The negative attention sold lots of records to suburban white kids and since there was money to be made it has snowballed ever since.
These kids have been taught that this is cool. That if they cant be a pro athlete or a highly paid "badass" musician that tough ass gangster is the only other option. Its a rockstar complex that I think lots of kid, regardless of race, have been developing the last 10 or so years. The difference it the support structure that encourages kids from different communities to grow out of it. In this case you have a community and leaders who make excuses and perpetuate the problem instead of saying to the girl in pink "what the hell made you think it was ok to charge a police officer to defend your friend who was resisting arrest?"
When teaching I once had to take a cellphone away from a black kid who could have pounded the shit out of me. It was in the hall between classes and I looked around for help and there wasnt a teacher to be seen. He reached into my pocket to grab it and pushed me around and I had to passively evade him the best I could while fearing his friends may jump in. They didnt.. they convinced him to move on. When the issue later came up with the admin and liaison officer his otherwise less-than-upstanding friends were honest said he was completely out of line and things got worked out.... unlike the dumb bitch in pink who rushed the cop and just made life harder for both her friend and herself. No foresight, no consideration for consequences. Meanwhile people look on and the guy videotaping just waits for the cop to slip, completely blind of everything before and after the punch... just like the people calling for the cops badge. Was the outrage at my school when two kids attacked the liaison officer and went for his gun? Nope, nothing to see here....
I never got that worked up about this stuff until I spent some time as a teacher. Its like being a cop minus the "potential for grave injury and death every day" part.

 

[3PER]

Re: Police brutality?

Looks like you "only ones" are having a field day with this one.

Guess what, there is opposing points of view:

How To Draw A Line, from Billy Beck

"The entire effect — if not the purpose — of a jaywalking statute is to strip the individual of that which he is born with: the principal device with which humans are able and naturally authorized to make their ways through the world. This is a metaphysical issue that extends to politics. Beware of false equivocations with actual crimes that bring harm to others (contrast with those which are arbitrarily asserted by the state). Your question is sloppy. The matter is not whether an individual should be permitted to ignore the police so generally as you put it. If it were that simple, then all of politics is reduced to a binary solution set including only the alternatives of total rebellion on the one hand and total submission on the other, in every issue from jaywalking to murder, and anything else over which the state would claim authority. ('Whether you want to use one or two cups of flour in that recipe is not your choice: you will obey statute if we say so, or face the might of the state.')

Your question stipulates to the majesty of the law, without accounting that the law is almost always an ass.

Me? I know how to get across a street. My parents saw to that at an early age.

Fuck the police.

That is all."


^^^^
I agree with that one.

 

[Phylodog]

Re: Police brutality?

There are always opposing points of view. Doesn't mean they're worth a squirt of piss.

 

[3PER]

Re: Police brutality?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phylodog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are always opposing points of view. Doesn't mean they're worth a squirt of piss. </div></div>

I absolutely agree. So it's obvious then how I feel about yours.

 

[Phylodog]

Re: Police brutality?

Pretty sure I'll sleep just fine.

 

[mattj]

Re: Police brutality?

On background: This happened right near a high school, and the school district had specifically asked the PD to step up enforcement on jaywalking, as they were concerned about students' safety.

 

[3PER]

Re: Police brutality?

http://www.wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.3338#G1276921549203

 

[jj302]

Re: Police brutality?

So the nanny state had to be the oppressor of liberty by seeing that the kids start using the overhead walkway paid for by tax $ or a kid would have gotten hit and the city would have caught hell and likely been sued and defended itself with more tax $ for "inaction" because they neglected a minority neighborhood?
Damned if you do, damned if you dont.
Your dream world where we all gorge ourselves on the tax-free fruits of liberty sounds like a great place I would like to live. Unfortunately it is little more then a philosophical construct with slightly more real world relevance then the idealism of a fantasyland where we commute in lollypop cars powered by fairydust, heat our homes with unicorn farts and rid the world of violence in the name of one true god. I agree with your sentiment, but application of such ideals gets a little tricky in our complex modern society.
Following your reasoning the cop could have rejected any department ROE, state or federal laws and rightfully shot the girl for directing physical violence twards his person.... and then where does it end?
Doesnt really follow does it?
The problem here is people not accepting responsibility and the consequences for their actions... which ironically seems to be diametrically opposed to the cornerstone of your philosophy.

 

[3PER]

Re: Police brutality?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jj302</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So the nanny state had to be the oppressor of liberty by seeing that the kids start using the overhead walkway paid for by tax $ or a kid would have gotten hit and the city would have caught hell and likely been sued and defended itself with more tax $ for "inaction" because they neglected a minority neighborhood?
Damned if you do, damned if you dont.
Your dream world where we all gorge ourselves on the tax-free fruits of liberty sounds like a great place I would like to live. Unfortunately it is little more then a philosophical construct with slightly more real world relevance then the idealism of a fantasyland where we commute in lollypop cars powered by fairydust, heat our homes with unicorn farts and rid the world of violence in the name of one true god. I agree with your sentiment, but application of such ideals gets a little tricky in our complex modern society.
Following your reasoning the cop could have rejected any department ROE, state or federal laws and rightfully shot the girl for directing physical violence twards his person.... and then where does it end?
Doesnt really follow does it?
The problem here is people not accepting responsibility and the consequences for their actions... which ironically seems to be diametrically opposed to the cornerstone of your philosophy.

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I'm sorry your post is unreadable gibberish. Have another shot.

 

[shooter65]

Re: Police brutality?

He should of hit her harder. I would have knocked the bitch and her friend out. They need to comply to a PO when an order is given.

Hell, look what happened once again in LA when the Lakers won the championship again. This is how some "ethnic groups" celebrate by destroying and beating people??

America as a country is degrading quickly...

 

[sickbugs]

Re: Police brutality?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooter65</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He should of hit her harder. I would have knocked the bitch and her friend out. They need to comply to a PO when an order is given.

Hell, look what happened once again in LA when the Lakers won the championship again. This is how some "ethnic groups" celebrate by destroying and beating people??

America as a country is degrading quickly... </div></div>

if you think that only some "ethnic groups" are prone to this type of behavior, i believe you are living a very sheltered life.. mommy still read you books at night?? i seen brawls at nascar while in the US, a friend of mine ended up in hospital during a bar fight that started over a hockey match.. get a grip on life, people are prone to violent reactions sometimes, they dont have to be black

 

[shooter65]

Re: Police brutality?

opinions vary. you have yours and I have mine. certainly see more people of color on the news causing all the shit....

maybe YOU need to wake up.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC13YEwbxmw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8zD5EFkTkw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBOWYsKsXc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbqTK3KsPl8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5L366YJJBU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maqPALziobw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyps_eCnIII




<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sickbugs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooter65</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He should of hit her harder. I would have knocked the bitch and her friend out. They need to comply to a PO when an order is given.

Hell, look what happened once again in LA when the Lakers won the championship again. This is how some "ethnic groups" celebrate by destroying and beating people??

America as a country is degrading quickly... </div></div>

if you think that only some "ethnic groups" are prone to this type of behavior, i believe you are living a very sheltered life.. mommy still read you books at night?? i seen brawls at nascar while in the US, a friend of mine ended up in hospital during a bar fight that started over a hockey match.. get a grip on life, people are prone to violent reactions sometimes, they dont have to be black

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[BoleCailey]

Re: Police brutality?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 3PER</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jj302</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So the nanny state had to be the oppressor of liberty by seeing that the kids start using the overhead walkway paid for by tax $ or a kid would have gotten hit and the city would have caught hell and likely been sued and defended itself with more tax $ for "inaction" because they neglected a minority neighborhood?
Damned if you do, damned if you dont.
Your dream world where we all gorge ourselves on the tax-free fruits of liberty sounds like a great place I would like to live. Unfortunately it is little more then a philosophical construct with slightly more real world relevance then the idealism of a fantasyland where we commute in lollypop cars powered by fairydust, heat our homes with unicorn farts and rid the world of violence in the name of one true god. I agree with your sentiment, but application of such ideals gets a little tricky in our complex modern society.
Following your reasoning the cop could have rejected any department ROE, state or federal laws and rightfully shot the girl for directing physical violence twards his person.... and then where does it end?
Doesnt really follow does it?
The problem here is people not accepting responsibility and the consequences for their actions... which ironically seems to be diametrically opposed to the cornerstone of your philosophy.

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I'm sorry your post is unreadable gibberish. Have another shot. </div></div>

I had no trouble reading it.

While I agree with you that arresting or citing someone for jaywalking is retarded, cops don't usually arrest or cite people for bullshit who don't have it coming for her. That girl deserved to get punched in the face.

 

[motodog]

Re: Police brutality?

i say the leo needed to draw weapon and put a few rounds into the ground under the offending bitches and then tazed them while yelling at the camera people "what yu gunna do now" that would have been priceless.

 

[FNARSHOOTER]

Re: Police brutality?

There are good and bad in all groups. BUT the blacks think that their race is a free pass to act like apes. They want to play any card they can,poor,no daddy at home ect and claim they want to be equal. BULLSHIT .They want to be in charge.The women rights twats are just as bad,all the perks and none of the work. The friggin librals have screwed this country long enough.The funny thing is if the Jay walking nigress got cliped by some poor bastard on his way home from work he would pay out the ass him and the welfare dept. that is . And the freedom fighter that said "fuck the cops" you need to get a grip your not free you are a slave to your own bullshit.Anarchy sounds good till a bigger dog takes your shit away. People like you would be the first one to call a cop if you got hit crossing the road. It's funny the cop gets called an asshole for writing a speeding ticket but when a speeder kills somebodys kid everybody wants the cops to do something. RANT OFF
Scot

 

[smokshwn]

Re: Police brutality?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sickbugs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
if you think that only some "ethnic groups" are prone to this type of behavior, i believe you are living a very sheltered life.. mommy still read you books at night?? i seen brawls at nascar while in the US, a friend of mine ended up in hospital during a bar fight that started over a hockey match.. get a grip on life, people are prone to violent reactions sometimes, they dont have to be black

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Easy cowboy, there is quite a bit of difference over a fistfight at a race or in a bar and idiots rioting in celebration of a stupid fucking sports win.

 

[jj302]

Re: Police brutality?

To give 3per some credit I must admit I wrote that after getting home from the bar. I don't drink much these days and it looks like getting few beers in me is a recipe for run on sentences. Reading it back it is pretty sloppy. Regardless, if someone couldn't understand my point because of a few long poorly worded sentences then maybe the problem is their reading comprehension. Maybe my point was made but the easiest response was to attack the delivery of the message instead of the message itself? I think my point was pretty clear. I wish we lived in a libertarian dream world too. We don't. Maybe someday, but progress is incremental. Well fuck me for stating it for myself instead of quoting or linking to what other people said.

 

[shooter65]

Re: Police brutality?

I never mentioned "black". You did.....



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sickbugs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooter65</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He should of hit her harder. I would have knocked the bitch and her friend out. They need to comply to a PO when an order is given.

Hell, look what happened once again in LA when the Lakers won the championship again. This is how some "ethnic groups" celebrate by destroying and beating people??

America as a country is degrading quickly... </div></div>

if you think that only some "ethnic groups" are prone to this type of behavior, i believe you are living a very sheltered life.. mommy still read you books at night?? i seen brawls at nascar while in the US, a friend of mine ended up in hospital during a bar fight that started over a hockey match.. get a grip on life, people are prone to violent reactions sometimes, they dont have to be black

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[mdmp5]

Re: Police brutality?

I cannot make the call whether this guy was right or wrong. However, I can say from watching this video that this guy hits like a fag.

 

[kbrady]

Re: Police brutality?

When someone is trying to assault you like they did the Officer, does it matter whether its a male of a female?? They get no special treatment because they have tits, they are subject to the same rules as everybody else. I guess everybody standing there running their mouths and recording the event would have felt better if he would have grabbed the TASER and laid them end to end huh?

Kelly

 

[operatorj]

Re: Police brutality?

What makes me mad is how all these people out there can tell a LEO what he should have done in a situation when they were not there or have never been in their shoes. I have been in like situations and you do what you got to do to go home to your family at the end of your shift Bottom Line.

As far as hitting a female, A very wise Sargent told me when I stated in Law Enforcement that you should never hit a girl ever. But if she hits you that takes balls, and if they have balls enought to hit you than they are no longer a female their a man now and you can Knock the Fuck Out of a Man.

 

[K.O.A.M.]

Re: Police brutality?

Yell at me all you want, but if you put your hands on me when I'm making an arrest, I will protect myself. Someone jumping on my back or grabbing at my belt says that they're trying to disarm me and that never ends well.

I'm fortunate that I work in a jurisdiction that while we have our share of bad guys, very rarely do you get the pile on/swarm mentality. When it does happen, you'll see "enhanced providing of law enforcement services" in that neighborhood for a few weeks until the point is made.

 

[chris223]

Re: Police brutality?

i see failure to comply to the officer
i also see an officer who needs some grappling / arm bar skills
that went on about 2 minutes longer than it should of

 

[spiralseal]

Re: Police brutality?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: varmint6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i see failure to comply to the officer
i also see an officer who needs some grappling / arm bar skills
that went on about 2 minutes longer than it should of </div></div>

AGREED!

 

[Dustin Morris]

Re: Police brutality?

No joke. Black women fight like men and knowing that, and that they were obviously in the hood I would have knocked her ass out and loaded her up and got the hell out of dodge. It could have easily gone really bad for him. Definatly not brutality.

 

[Short-bus]

Re: Police brutality?

Taser would have ended things a lot quicker, and likely much less legal hassle than a right fist to the face. Fist is force, taser is compliance modification. Me personally, i'd rather get tased than popped in the mouth, much less long term effects.

There's a few guys at work i'd like to sneak up behind and hit 'me with a stun gun to remind them they aren't as tough as they think, and even a skinny "cracker" like me can make 'em beg for mercy.

Branden

 

[The Mechanic]

Re: Police brutality?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooter65</div><div class="ubbcode-body">opinions vary. you have yours and I have mine. certainly see more people of color on the news causing all the shit....

maybe YOU need to wake up.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC13YEwbxmw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8zD5EFkTkw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBOWYsKsXc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbqTK3KsPl8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5L366YJJBU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maqPALziobw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyps_eCnIII




<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sickbugs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooter65</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He should of hit her harder. I would have knocked the bitch and her friend out. They need to comply to a PO when an order is given.

Hell, look what happened once again in LA when the Lakers won the championship again. This is how some "ethnic groups" celebrate by destroying and beating people??

America as a country is degrading quickly... </div></div>

if you think that only some "ethnic groups" are prone to this type of behavior, i believe you are living a very sheltered life.. mommy still read you books at night?? i seen brawls at nascar while in the US, a friend of mine ended up in hospital during a bar fight that started over a hockey match.. get a grip on life, people are prone to violent reactions sometimes, they dont have to be black

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That is why I don't go to events like that. I would not be able to control myself in those situations. I for the most part will leave a bar or party as I see the stupid fucks who drink to much and start getting rowdy. I can't seem to find my stop switch.

Those rioters are a bunch of animals. Just like the LA riots before I would end up on the rooftops with the Koreans.

 

[Sthrnstrong]

Re: Police brutality?

She got less than what she deserved. IMHO

Kinda makes me think of this.
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGaWDL7ofLQ