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Printed Precision Trickler

I really am I interested in this. Wish I could have been part of the testing. Be interesting to see who is going to be selling these and the price? I’m hoping price will even be below a auto trickler, i would think so since it’s not machined metal parts but time will tell. Hoping it is released really soon I’m in need of a new dispenser.
 
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First things first, no, not the creator, I don't sell em, I can't put you on a list for them, don't spam me bro! Just happy to help do some testing. I was convenient and had some of the big chunky powders they needed to test.

Here's 107gr of Retumbo, shows big charges, with chunky kernels, and the feed tube.


Here's 86gr of Retumbo, my standard 300 Norma load, showing the control box, status lights, autozero, and a bulk/trickle cycle.


Here's a more typical load for most people, 32gr of H4350. Shows several throws, single kernel dispensing, and even an over.


And one more, a slomo of the system in operation.



Here's what I think so far: It's pretty damn good. Still a few things they are working out, but so far they have been really cool about listening to feedback and making changes. Over the course of a few loading sessions of both 6 creed and 300 Norma, I'm sitting at about 94% successful throw at -0 +1kernel tolerance. Average time for a 6 creed throw at 39gr is about 8 seconds, 86gr 300 Norma throw is about 11 seconds.

What are you using for a pan/cup? Does it come with a cup with a handle or is it just like a shot glass?
 
What are you using for a pan/cup? Does it come with a cup with a handle or is it just like a shot glass?
It comes with a platen, and I believe will be coming with a glass shot glass at retail. I'm using a steel shotglass I found on amazon and a 3d printed handle I found for it.
 
First things first, no, not the creator, I don't sell em, I can't put you on a list for them, don't spam me bro! Just happy to help do some testing. I was convenient and had some of the big chunky powders they needed to test.

Here's 107gr of Retumbo, shows big charges, with chunky kernels, and the feed tube.


Here's 86gr of Retumbo, my standard 300 Norma load, showing the control box, status lights, autozero, and a bulk/trickle cycle.


Here's a more typical load for most people, 32gr of H4350. Shows several throws, single kernel dispensing, and even an over.


And one more, a slomo of the system in operation.



Here's what I think so far: It's pretty damn good. Still a few things they are working out, but so far they have been really cool about listening to feedback and making changes. Over the course of a few loading sessions of both 6 creed and 300 Norma, I'm sitting at about 94% successful throw at -0 +1kernel tolerance. Average time for a 6 creed throw at 39gr is about 8 seconds, 86gr 300 Norma throw is about 11 seconds.

Anymore updates on testing? Anymore news I’m very interested in this. Just wish it could do the stable line of powders.
 
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I have some ideas for a printed plate that would work with ball powders like StaBALL. This will take some time: first I need to get a PP Trickler for measurements, then design print and experiment. And it may not work anyway.
Your onto the right idea. I would hope it could be made to work. Or is printing not as precise as metal work? They are using ball powder on the ingenuity tricker.
 
Varget (flubber) laffs at your flat bottomed cup. Best to print one with a convex bottom.
 

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The real question is, will this be out before the IP system?
Earlier I said "clever design". Part of that assessment was seeing a minimal parts count (i.e., it appears to be direct drive instead of belts). That makes sourcing and assembly easier (and less expensive). And it's simple: only what is needed to dispense powder sits on the scale. It's also kind of ugly, which says that "form follows function", which is a good thing.

Also, the fully-printed nature of the device (which facilitates low part count) makes trial modifications much faster and less expensive.

On the control box, I see COTS parts in use - also fast and easy to source with few supply-chain hiccoughs.

So I'm hopeful it will be relatively soon. But no-one knows, not even the developer, as issues may crop up. Ideally soon enough for loading season - I'm worn out waiting for my (otherwise really good) MatchMaster.

An interesting question is how firmware updates will be done. One can expect early adopters to see a few rapid updates.
 
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Earlier I said "clever design". Part of that assessment was seeing a minimal parts count (i.e., it appears to be direct drive instead of belts). That makes sourcing and assembly easier (and less expensive). And it's simple: only what is needed to dispense powder sits on the scale. It's also kind of ugly, which says that "form follows function", which is a good thing.

Also, the fully-printed nature of the device (which facilitates low part count) makes trial modifications much faster and less expensive.

On the control box, I see COTS parts in use - also fast and easy to source with few supply-chain hiccoughs.

So I'm hopeful it will be relatively soon. But no-one knows, not even the developer, as issues may crop up. Ideally soon enough for loading season - I'm worn out waiting for my (otherwise really good) MatchMaster.

An interesting question is how firmware updates will be done. One can expect early adopters to see a few rapid updates.
I’ve got one of these units as well. Updates aren’t difficult built require a tiny bit of reading and a PC. Units are being ran off of a Raspberry Pi type thingy and use that software with a file that’s available on the website. Takes like 5 minutes and a USB cable once you have the program downloaded. Lots of progress being made thus far to make the system fairly plug and play for most applications related to high volume loading sessions and trying to stream line much of the setup process for the lesser technology inclined folks
 
Anymore updates on testing? Anymore news I’m very interested in this. Just wish it could do the stable line of powders.
Testing is going nicely. Trying to get through as many different powders as we can.

The issue with the ball powders is that with 3d printed tolerances they tend to get places they shouldn't go, and obviously you aren't doing "single kernel" drops any more. It's just a different problem to solve than stick powders, which is what the PP was originally designed for.
 
Problem with the ip unit is if you don’t want to wait till July you won’t be getting an ip
Unit unless you are on the first 1000 pre
Orders anyways. And who knows if it will keep getting pushed back. He has the parts for the trickler and electronics but not the dropper it sounds like. I honestly think he’s a little high on the price for the ip unit. The only thing it will do in my eyes that this printed one won’t is ball powders.
 
So exactly what is the optional option here? The clear tube? What’s it gain this option?
Removable hopper with shutoff valve rather than fixed. It will be a big QOL upgrade if you change powders frequently since it will make it easier to empty. But with the anticipated price point of the PP, TBD if that kind of feature can be added and not let the timeline slip. IMO no, keep the PP as is and the upgrade will be aftermarket