Is Remington really fitting bolts to receivers, or just throwing bolts in and checking with Go/No Go gauges.....
RemArms Sloppy Warranty Repair
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You cannot expect to get top notch service on a mass produced inexpensive product. No need to create threads, cry or complain. Shoot and enjoy it or sell it and move on to a higher quality product if you want service. You are wasting time and bandwidth.
My 2019 APO 700 is serialized like all the other REM bolt guns I have from various years up to that point.
I’m sure the bolt is serialized and OP should get it back but I wouldn’t count on it being fast.
I put in a word with the RemArms customer service, and they had someone from management research this issue and call me back. I calmly stated my concern and he apologized. Said the rifle was not authorized to be returned to me in it's current condition. He doesn't know how that happened.
What will happen is that I'm getting a call tag and the entire rifle will be sent back to RemArms for a replacement.
It make take a few weeks for an order to me inserted in the manufacturing queue, but he promises either that will happen, or if a RemArms 700 Police LTR is not in the manufacturing cycle, he will propose an upgrade.
I want to again thank carbonbased for the his understanding and advice. I will keep the community apprised, but remember it could be
a month or two and then some.
Awesome!I put in a word with the RemArms customer service, and they had someone from management research this issue and call me back. I calmly stated my concern and he apologized. Said the rifle was not authorized to be returned to me in it's current condition. He doesn't know how that happened.
What will happen is that I'm getting a call tag and the entire rifle will be sent back to RemArms for a replacement.
It make take a few weeks for an order to me inserted in the manufacturing queue, but he promises either that will happen, or if a RemArms 700 Police LTR is not in the manufacturing cycle, he will propose an upgrade.
I want to again thank carbonbased for the his understanding and advice. I will keep the community apprised, but remember it could be
a month or two and then some.
I bought a $1700 dollar scope (used) and got it from the seller like this (this is the torx that needs to be removed to reset the windage). Looks to me like someone didnt have the right size Torx so used the next size up and banged it in, or used an SAE 'almost the right size' and fucked up the gear itself. Then, with it well stuck, broke it off (in the scope and now in me). When I complained, the seller accused me of doing it. Dealing with that now.
Understandable but thats not his job. If he did it and fucked it up then Rem says "You fucked it up, we aint fixing it."
There’s no SAE for torx but yeah, someone over tightened that. Probably used a torx from Temu.
This is why I don’t buy used optics. Not that there’s anything wrong with it, but because people are crooked, shady, cheap, ham-fisted, and retarded. And 9/10 if something is broke, the seller goes ghost, and it’s on your dime.
Torx bits get way over used, and it's fine till they snap. I bet it's not crazy tight, just crappy, overused torx bit/key. It's torx bit flutes are probably spiraled and that's what's holding it in. Ive used a dental/oring pick to get stuff like that out, but it was on more robust machinery. An optic isn't gonna take to kind to pecking and prying.
Tried that, and very gently a small pick, its wedged tight. Waiting to get it back for a trip to Zeiss to be repaired properly. Why people send stuff out when all it would take is to have it warrantied.
If you’re careful, you can get a spare piece of small scrap metal (1/8” dowel rod or something similar). Get some 2 ton epoxy. Mix a tiny amount, put some on the head of the screw, and stick the scrap of metal in it. Clean any excess, so as not to get any in or on the turret itself, just on the screw head. Let it sit 24 hours. Unscrew the screw using the piece of metal you attached to the screw. Call Zeiss, give them the scope model, tell themthem what happened, and that you need that 1 screw. Chances are, they might just send you a free one.
No waiting, no warranty, and you can use it in the meantime while waiting on the new screw. And u can break the epoxy or cut the screw off the very end of the dowel, and you still have a perfectly good piece of dowel.
Also just had an older remington in the shop today for a small repair.....same stake marks from the factory. Nothing wrong with it. I feel ike the OP is just whiny and is like my wife.....NEEDS to find something to complain about or isn't happy.
not having the bolt is a problem though
Saves on barrel wear that way....and components, lmao
OLDER Remington does not signify. It's OK with me if you and the FuhQ are perfectly fine with a quality escape, but others of us are not.
As the both of you strut your overbearing attitudes, let me never hear of either of you ever taking advantage of any warranty or recall of any consumer goods either, including any automotive recall, even a safety recall.
To paraphrase Henry Hill in Goodfellas; "But now you guy's gotta all your own new stuff every time no matter what. Brand new power tool bad? FuhQ you, fix it. Oh, you had a short in the new stereo? FuhQ, fix it. New furnace don't put out heat huh? FuhQ, fix it."
Your level of butthurt is hilarious. May WE never hear about your simple to fix at home gun problems (loose trigger pins) with a factory rifle built by a known questionable quality source, creating an even bigger issue after sending the whole gun in for a simple fix, again, when [had you not been a cheap ass] with a slight bit of ingenuity, you could have fixed it at home yourself, or contacted a real gunsmith to correct the problem, and never had to deal with any of this nonsense.
Your post appeared like you wanted genuine help in fixing your rifle, which is what we tried to offer you, when all you really wanted was a a hollow echo-chamber to vent and bitch. So, I wouldn’t start throwing stones about who’s posts and help attempts were more useless, versus useful…
I’m going to be the bigger man here, and say that I hope your new rifle works perfectly. Best of luck.
C’mon man.
All he wanted were opinions as to if Remington’s “fix” was acceptable for a new rifle, and suggestions how to communicate his dissatisfaction.
From his first post:
If one buys a new car and finds his engine is messed up, and the manufacturer jacks together a fix, that’s not ok. The manufacturer needs to make the dude whole.
The warranty is there for a reason. It is wise, if only for resale considerations, to take advantage of it.
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Except the fix is completely acceptable and he is still acting like a spoiled karen. The bolt missing sure, that one I will give him.
If his rifle came from the factory with stake marks he would have never questioned it. He just wants to piss and moan and get a hug.
I've saw 1 stake/peen mark per pin hole before. OPs had like 3 and it did look sloppy done, so I can get his frustration. I'm sure in his head he was expecting a high tech whiz bang fix, and did not expect to see 3 strike marks near each pin. I'm sure that was a rude awakening for him, but that has been the common fix from rem and top gunsmith on loose 700 pins.
A cool fix would be normal size pins with one end having slightly raised splines. Problem with that is some people would try to drive it all the way out from wrong side and mangle trigger. The peened holes is the simple correct fix.
A cool fix would be normal size pins with one end having slightly raised splines. Problem with that is some people would try to drive it all the way out from wrong side and mangle trigger. The peened holes is the simple correct fix.
OLDER Remington rifles that you had repaired has no meaning here. It's OK with me if you and the FuhQ are perfectly fine with a quality escape, but others of us are not.
As the both of you strut your unpleasant attitudes and puerile name calling, let me never hear of either of you ever taking advantage of any warranty or recall of any consumer goods at anytime you ever post on this forum including any automotive recall, even a safety recall. Fix all your new shit yourself, and never ever return anything. Ever.
What a blowhard F**Tard. Remington is a production rifle, they ship thousands of them. Every production company and I do mean every company has quality escapes. This rifle had loose pin holes and was fixed in a manner that is common and normal for a production company. Want better response, pay more money on a custom! Did he get a proper fix yep, so hit the road. He used the warranty and got the right fix. Perfect solution, enjoy!
What a blowhard F**Tard. Remington is a production rifle, RemArms may ship thousands of them, but CEO Ken D'Arcy was on a blog post last year boasting about the new quality.
Every production company and I do mean every company has quality escapes. The company I worked for had them. We apologized to the customer and RMA'd the product back and replaced it. This rifle had loose pin holes and was fixed in a manner that is common (on older used rifles) but is not normal for a production company that prides itself on quality.
oldrifleman has not added anything useful except a shitty attitude and worthless commentary, so hit the road. May your next warranty claim for an expensive item be rejected. We'll see you crying then - a perfect solution, enjoy!
I have never had a claim rejected and my expensive items always come with world class service. His claim was not rejected, it was fixed in a manner that is considered normal for a production item. He bought a production item with a shoddy historical quality history, found a problem, had it fixed and is now throwing a hussy fit. Now go pound sand you moronic twit
Yep, whining like a little Poor bitch is definitely a great way to make friends around here.You do have a strange way of making friends.
I am not sure why some have their panties all twisted up. You would have accepted the repair. Cool. The O.P and Remington thought it was worth replacing the rifle. The fuck does it have to do with you....
Personaly I am glad to see remington provided customer service.
Personaly I am glad to see remington provided customer service.
That’s the point. Remington DID provide the customer service, and fixed the rifle in a very common manner. The only real legit gripe he had is that they forgot to put his bolt back in the gun. But he’s bitching about how they fixed it, despite the repair being entirely hidden under the stock. Peening The area around a pin to tighten the fitment is not just common in this scenario, it’s very commonly used in the metal fabrication industry, as well.
Remington decided what service they provided. Got zero to do you with you, but here you are crying.
That's the point you half wit. REM arms has provided a fully functional weapon back to the OP as consistent with their commitment to customer service. You seem to be the carrier of some butt hurt and won’t shut up. You seem to believe the OP deserves a new toy and you can get an ice cream cone or something. He got a repaired rifle and you got zilch to whine about. So take your butt hurt self back to wherever and count your toes or whatever, don’t go away mad, just go away.
As stated so eloquently above... You're missing my point. He got a rifle fixed under warranty the way they fix them, and it was properly fixed. The only bitch he legitimately has, is the fact they forgot to put his damn bolt back in his rifle. That's a prett retarded thing for Remington (or anyone) to do, but shit does happen, and Remington has been cursed with QC and CS issues since they first went bankrupt and got bought-out by Freedom Group...It's managed to stay the same regardless of whose hands owns it.
It has nothing to do with me, and I'm not crying, the OP is crying and so are you. We're pointing out logical facts, and you're not wanting to hear it or accept it. What I don't understand is how this affects YOU, to the point that you're also carrying butthurt about this situation.
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Huh, huh, huh?
Quack!!
I think someone is looking for an echo chamber...
Wut, wut, wut?
Huh, huh, huh?
Quack!!
I think someone is looking for an echo chamber...
You know, I'm amazed at how some threads grow legs and others die, but here we are. In the end, OP is the customer of this rifle and he wasn't happy with the repair(no matter how common it is on 700s). I suppose rem cs decided to replace the rifle, which I guess they can salvage all components from except receiver. I assume they bandsaw that receiver since it's serial number has been logged in?
I am missing the point.
A fully functional rifle with no bolt? You have zero clue if the trigger was located correctly after peeing. You have zero clue if the rifle was functional.
Remington did replace the rifle. And according to Remington thats not the way they fix them. Who'd a thunk? Guess Its not 1990 anymore.
So according to Remington the OP was correct. Which has zero to do with you and that retard fuh-q( our famous Arkan peepee sucker) yet you felt the need to continue to cry and talk shit to the OP like a butt hurt little bitch. Then for some reason you think im butt hurt for pointing out the two above stated facts.
To rehash
1. According to Remington the guys with skin in the game, the op was correct, that was not an acceptable fix.
2. Has zero to do with you two loud mouth retards. .
It has zero to do with you, as well… Yet, here you are butthurt and running your cock holster, as if you’re the OP, or a Remington shill.I am missing the point.
A fully functional rifle with no bolt? You have zero clue if the trigger was located correctly after peeing. You have zero clue if the rifle was functional.
Remington did replace the rifle. And according to Remington thats not the way they fix them. Who'd a thunk? Guess Its not 1990 anymore.
So according to Remington the OP was correct. Which has zero to do with you and that retard fuh-q( our famous Arkan peepee sucker) yet you felt the need to continue to cry and talk shit to the OP like a butt hurt little bitch. Then for some reason you think im butt hurt for pointing out the two above stated facts.
To rehash
1. According to Remington the guys with skin in the game, the op was correct, that was not an acceptable fix.
2. Has zero to do with you two loud mouth retards. .
Just pointing out according to Remington you are wrong. You missed the point again. The situation that has zero effect on you that caused all your butthurt is Remington replacing the rifle. Not this thread.It has zero to do with you, as well… Yet, here you are butthurt and running your cock holster, as if you’re the OP, or a Remington shill.
Remington shill? Whats your gripe with them now? What did Remington do wrong now? How am I defending them? Are you against them now because they agreed with the OP? Do you even read or think about the shit you write?
I would expect it to be disclosed if I bought a used rifle with that kind of repair.
Here's a oldrifleSurlyCurmudgeon that's taken it upon himself to judge how customer service should be conducted not for himself, but for other people. If this ill-tempered crank acted like this anywhere but behind a keyboard, he would have his ass handed to him. Now go pound sand you moronic twit.
If you are the example of friendly people, I'd rather not. Let me assure you with all seriousness that a person is delusional if they are on an internet forum to burnish an online personae and count followers as friends.Yep, whining like a little Poor bitch is definitely a great way to make friends around here.
Since you've becoming more than a little unhinged here, let me help; You are not your fucking smartphone specs. You are not your avatar, your custom title, your Sniper's Hide reputation. You are not your browser, your email account or your X or Instagram handles. You are not your mother fucking post count.
You’re confusing me with someone else, or you just completely missed the mark again, because I have no problem with Remington replacing the rifle, that only costs them money, and makes absolutely no difference to me. They made it right to an overly-whiney customer. Everyone’s happy…For now.
While I think it’s sort of stupid to waste a whole rifle, when they could just simply headspace a new bolt to the action (supposedly the new QC is stringent enough to accept prefits, so they could theoretically just mail him a new one), it is what it is. I honestly couldn’t care less. It’s the fact the OP was crying about the peening marks, when they will never be seen by anyone unless they remove the action from the chassis. Were they on the top side, I could understand being a bit pissed about it.
Anyone with 2 brain cells should already know all of this… Welcome to the interwebz, that’s day 1 stuff.
Hilarious that you’re calling me unhinged, and yet, you’re the one who’s yelling at people. I’m calm as can be.
Na, he is currently the resident fool. Came in hot and hard shilling Arkan but quickly switches what ever he bought last is the best thing since sliced bread.
Glad Remington sorted it out. I agree with you and Remington that is not an acceptable repair in 2024. That is how Remington rebuilds their reputation for quality. Not by doing a half ass repair to a poorly made product and sticking the customer with half ass repaired new rifle.
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