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Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
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Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
That doesn't look too bad. Almost every centerfire bottleneck cartridge I've shot has a certain amount of carbon build up on the neck, some more than others. I just remove the carbon with some 0000 steel wool before putting the cases in the cleaner.
That doesn't look too bad. Almost every centerfire bottleneck cartridge I've shot has a certain amount of carbon build up on the neck, some more than others. I just remove the carbon with some 0000 steel wool before putting the cases in the cleaner.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That doesn't look too bad. Almost every centerfire bottleneck cartridge I've shot has a certain amount of carbon build up on the neck, some more than others. I just remove the carbon with some 0000 steel wool before putting the cases in the cleaner. </div></div>
it's significantly worse than I've ever experienced. Maybe I'm just paying more attention because of my accuracy problems though.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That doesn't look too bad. Almost every centerfire bottleneck cartridge I've shot has a certain amount of carbon build up on the neck, some more than others. I just remove the carbon with some 0000 steel wool before putting the cases in the cleaner. </div></div>
it's significantly worse than I've ever experienced. Maybe I'm just paying more attention because of my accuracy problems though.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Most don't carbon that much but some do. Certain powders are dirtier than others. I've never shot Retumbo so it may soot the necks up more than RL 25. What is your reloading technique? Have you shoot any factory ammo out of it yet? Is it possible that you're developing a flinch with this caliber?
Most don't carbon that much but some do. Certain powders are dirtier than others. I've never shot Retumbo so it may soot the necks up more than RL 25. What is your reloading technique? Have you shoot any factory ammo out of it yet? Is it possible that you're developing a flinch with this caliber?
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
with my MLR the higher the velosities the more accurate it got. best between 2800 and 2900 with 300gr bergers, and rl-25. above 2940 stared to get hard bolt lift. mine is shooting sub inch.
with my MLR the higher the velosities the more accurate it got. best between 2800 and 2900 with 300gr bergers, and rl-25. above 2940 stared to get hard bolt lift. mine is shooting sub inch.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most don't carbon that much but some do. Certain powders are dirtier than others. I've never shot Retumbo so it may soot the necks up more than RL 25. What is your reloading technique? Have you shoot any factory ammo out of it yet? Is it possible that you're developing a flinch with this caliber? </div></div>
I've never shot Retumbo so this is possible. My reloading has been limited to 308 and 300 win mag (used IMR with win mag) over the last 4 years.
I thought it was possible that I was developing a flinch, as I got beat up pretty good during the first day of development, so I bought a lead sled. Pretty much took all the guesswork out of it. Hardly any recoil when the rifle sits in the lead sled. I didn't get that much better groups though.
As far as my reloading goes, I'm easily the most anal person I know when it comes to reloading. I weigh each charge multiple times and I'm a huge stickler when it comes to the details. While there is the possibility that there is some human error involved, I've done my best to ensure I have taken it all out.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most don't carbon that much but some do. Certain powders are dirtier than others. I've never shot Retumbo so it may soot the necks up more than RL 25. What is your reloading technique? Have you shoot any factory ammo out of it yet? Is it possible that you're developing a flinch with this caliber? </div></div>
I've never shot Retumbo so this is possible. My reloading has been limited to 308 and 300 win mag (used IMR with win mag) over the last 4 years.
I thought it was possible that I was developing a flinch, as I got beat up pretty good during the first day of development, so I bought a lead sled. Pretty much took all the guesswork out of it. Hardly any recoil when the rifle sits in the lead sled. I didn't get that much better groups though.
As far as my reloading goes, I'm easily the most anal person I know when it comes to reloading. I weigh each charge multiple times and I'm a huge stickler when it comes to the details. While there is the possibility that there is some human error involved, I've done my best to ensure I have taken it all out.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are your loads with RL 25? </div></div>
I started at 81 grains, average velocity 2426 and ended at 86 2553 average. I know I have a lot more room with this powder, but I wanted to switch to retumbo because of the disappointing groups right off the bat.
I had more 86 grain RL 25 loads that I shot today, as I wanted to make sure it wasn't me, that the RL 25 would group the same out of the lead sled as it did the previous day without it. They were close.
The best group I had was at 155 yards, 83.6 grains of RL 25, there were 4 shots touching all stacked up vertically in about 3/4" and one flier that was not a good shot. Average velocity of that group was 2484, too slow to even bother with.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are your loads with RL 25? </div></div>
I started at 81 grains, average velocity 2426 and ended at 86 2553 average. I know I have a lot more room with this powder, but I wanted to switch to retumbo because of the disappointing groups right off the bat.
I had more 86 grain RL 25 loads that I shot today, as I wanted to make sure it wasn't me, that the RL 25 would group the same out of the lead sled as it did the previous day without it. They were close.
The best group I had was at 155 yards, 83.6 grains of RL 25, there were 4 shots touching all stacked up vertically in about 3/4" and one flier that was not a good shot. Average velocity of that group was 2484, too slow to even bother with.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
It can't hurt, but if you can't get good groups with Retumbo and RL 25 which are proven powders with the 338LM, somethings wrong somewhere. Do you have a proven scope from another rifle that you could try?
It can't hurt, but if you can't get good groups with Retumbo and RL 25 which are proven powders with the 338LM, somethings wrong somewhere. Do you have a proven scope from another rifle that you could try?
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It can't hurt, but if you can't get good groups with Retumbo and RL 25 which are proven powders with the 338LM, somethings wrong somewhere. Do you have a proven scope from another rifle that you could try? </div></div>
I have an extra NF NXS that I pulled off my old man's M82 or I could use the IOR that is on my 5R, but I'd rather not. The NF that is on my stick is brand new. Tracks well, from what I can tell. Might be worth looking into. I think I may try and push the retumbo loads farther. I already have up to 93.6 grain charges worked up ready to test.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It can't hurt, but if you can't get good groups with Retumbo and RL 25 which are proven powders with the 338LM, somethings wrong somewhere. Do you have a proven scope from another rifle that you could try? </div></div>
I have an extra NF NXS that I pulled off my old man's M82 or I could use the IOR that is on my 5R, but I'd rather not. The NF that is on my stick is brand new. Tracks well, from what I can tell. Might be worth looking into. I think I may try and push the retumbo loads farther. I already have up to 93.6 grain charges worked up ready to test.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Might as well give those loads a try then. Good luck.
Might as well give those loads a try then. Good luck.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Might as well give those loads a try then. Good luck. </div></div>
Thanks. I will report my results.
I'm going to load up some fresh 175 grain pills for my 5R tonight to shoot tomorrow just to make sure I'm not a dumb ass.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Might as well give those loads a try then. Good luck. </div></div>
Thanks. I will report my results.
I'm going to load up some fresh 175 grain pills for my 5R tonight to shoot tomorrow just to make sure I'm not a dumb ass.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Has anyone tried the Smith Enterprise brake with this rifle? I stopped by their booth at the SAR Show today and they can take their standard 30 caliber brake and ream it out to 338. Costs half of a Badger brake. It's not a physically large brake like others I've seen, so I'm wondering if anyone has first-hand experience using it with a 338 Lapua.
Has anyone tried the Smith Enterprise brake with this rifle? I stopped by their booth at the SAR Show today and they can take their standard 30 caliber brake and ream it out to 338. Costs half of a Badger brake. It's not a physically large brake like others I've seen, so I'm wondering if anyone has first-hand experience using it with a 338 Lapua.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nimzoblanca</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone tried the Smith Enterprise brake with this rifle? I stopped by their booth at the SAR Show today and they can take their standard 30 caliber brake and ream it out to 338. Costs half of a Badger brake. It's not a physically large brake like others I've seen, so I'm wondering if anyone has first-hand experience using it with a 338 Lapua. </div></div>
I'm going to place an order for the PWS brake today. It doesn't require anything but removal of the old brake and installing this one.
I was hoping to get out on Friday, but I wasn't able to due to family stuff. Hopefully I'll get a chance here soon.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nimzoblanca</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone tried the Smith Enterprise brake with this rifle? I stopped by their booth at the SAR Show today and they can take their standard 30 caliber brake and ream it out to 338. Costs half of a Badger brake. It's not a physically large brake like others I've seen, so I'm wondering if anyone has first-hand experience using it with a 338 Lapua. </div></div>
I'm going to place an order for the PWS brake today. It doesn't require anything but removal of the old brake and installing this one.
I was hoping to get out on Friday, but I wasn't able to due to family stuff. Hopefully I'll get a chance here soon.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mm128</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just Called PRC.
AWESOME PEOPLE to deal with (Stacy)
Great service and will be ordering some items tonight from them.
Thanks again,
Matt (LEO SOUTH GA.) </div></div>
Please post a link to the company above.
Googled trying to find the mentioned brake but only came up some softairgun stuff.?...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mm128</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just Called PRC.
AWESOME PEOPLE to deal with (Stacy)
Great service and will be ordering some items tonight from them.
Thanks again,
Matt (LEO SOUTH GA.) </div></div>
Please post a link to the company above.
Googled trying to find the mentioned brake but only came up some softairgun stuff.?...
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=127&idcategory=6
Yes they are good people. Their uppers (7" Diablo in particular)are really well put together and different from the other stuff out there.
I am a dealer for them but don't have any in stock. When I get them I can save you a little bit.
http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=127&idcategory=6
Yes they are good people. Their uppers (7" Diablo in particular)are really well put together and different from the other stuff out there.
I am a dealer for them but don't have any in stock. When I get them I can save you a little bit.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: robpiat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=127&idcategory=6
Yes they are good people. Their uppers (7" Diablo in particular)are really well put together and different from the other stuff out there.
I am a dealer for them but don't have any in stock. When I get them I can save you a little bit. </div></div>
Yeah, please tell me when you get`em in stock.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: robpiat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=127&idcategory=6
Yes they are good people. Their uppers (7" Diablo in particular)are really well put together and different from the other stuff out there.
I am a dealer for them but don't have any in stock. When I get them I can save you a little bit. </div></div>
Yeah, please tell me when you get`em in stock.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Just thought I'd post my info-
If you see my older posts, my MLR came with a screwed up chamber. Benchmark Barrels did an excellent job at cleaning it up by setting the barrel back a couple threads, along with truing the action and installing a PT&G recoil lug. After that was done I skim bedded it into the HS stock using MarineTex.
Previously, with the screwed up chamber, the gun was shooting well with factory 250gr Scenar Ammo. After the rechambering, it opened up to about 1 MOA with the factory ammo. I attribute this to having a chamber that is not as 'tight' which is causing the bullet to jump about .090". It doesn't help that factory Lapua ammo is loaded pretty short.
I've been doing load development with 300SMK's, loaded to .020" off the lands using Lapua brass, Federal 215M primers, and Retumbo.
94gr of retumbo behind the 300SMK has been working VERY well; I've only got 4 groups through it but they are all .6 MOA and under. I'm extremely pleased, this rifle is shooting far beyond it's purchase price.
Just thought I'd post my info-
If you see my older posts, my MLR came with a screwed up chamber. Benchmark Barrels did an excellent job at cleaning it up by setting the barrel back a couple threads, along with truing the action and installing a PT&G recoil lug. After that was done I skim bedded it into the HS stock using MarineTex.
Previously, with the screwed up chamber, the gun was shooting well with factory 250gr Scenar Ammo. After the rechambering, it opened up to about 1 MOA with the factory ammo. I attribute this to having a chamber that is not as 'tight' which is causing the bullet to jump about .090". It doesn't help that factory Lapua ammo is loaded pretty short.
I've been doing load development with 300SMK's, loaded to .020" off the lands using Lapua brass, Federal 215M primers, and Retumbo.
94gr of retumbo behind the 300SMK has been working VERY well; I've only got 4 groups through it but they are all .6 MOA and under. I'm extremely pleased, this rifle is shooting far beyond it's purchase price.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Hola!
That's the same load I've been shooting with mine and while it's HOT(!!!) it's pretty accurate. Once you get a few hundred down the barrel it'll get even better. How do you like that brake?
Ry
Hola!
That's the same load I've been shooting with mine and while it's HOT(!!!) it's pretty accurate. Once you get a few hundred down the barrel it'll get even better. How do you like that brake?
Ry
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blurry6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hola!
That's the same load I've been shooting with mine and while it's HOT(!!!) it's pretty accurate. Once you get a few hundred down the barrel it'll get even better. How do you like that brake?
Ry </div></div>
Yep, seems to be a rather hot load but so far I haven't had any issues. I'll have to run it across the chronograph and see how fast they're going.
The brake is not the most effective thing in the world
But it does a 'good enough' job that I'm not gonna replace it. Overall it's a stout rifle to shoot, but the recoil isn't super sharp and I find it pleasant. However, I'm only putting 10-15 rounds through in a range session. Haha, if I was dumping 30+ rounds it might be another story!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blurry6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hola!
That's the same load I've been shooting with mine and while it's HOT(!!!) it's pretty accurate. Once you get a few hundred down the barrel it'll get even better. How do you like that brake?
Ry </div></div>
Yep, seems to be a rather hot load but so far I haven't had any issues. I'll have to run it across the chronograph and see how fast they're going.
The brake is not the most effective thing in the world
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Yeah, it's not the greatest brake, but it definitely does 'something' to minimize recoil. I have a .338 Ultra with a Vias brake and the stock Remington is considerably better than the Vias. Of course, the .338 Ultra is about 5-lbs lighter than my Lapua, so do the math.
While I'm not at all unsatisfied with the Retumbo load, I'm gonna start working with H1000 and Bergers' 300gr bullets,... I'll let you know what comes of it.
Ry
Yeah, it's not the greatest brake, but it definitely does 'something' to minimize recoil. I have a .338 Ultra with a Vias brake and the stock Remington is considerably better than the Vias. Of course, the .338 Ultra is about 5-lbs lighter than my Lapua, so do the math.
While I'm not at all unsatisfied with the Retumbo load, I'm gonna start working with H1000 and Bergers' 300gr bullets,... I'll let you know what comes of it.
Ry
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Sounds good man. I've stayed away from H1000 because Zak Smith said he saw some weird stringing going on with it when he was shooting at distance (over 1000 yards). Yet, tons of other people have success with it so maybe that was an isolated case.
Good luck with the Berger's. It's been my experience with this 338 that OAL (the jump to the lands) is very critical. Make sure you've got them .010-.020 or so off the lands. I think some people with Berger's were running them even closer than that; like .005" off the lands!
Sounds good man. I've stayed away from H1000 because Zak Smith said he saw some weird stringing going on with it when he was shooting at distance (over 1000 yards). Yet, tons of other people have success with it so maybe that was an isolated case.
Good luck with the Berger's. It's been my experience with this 338 that OAL (the jump to the lands) is very critical. Make sure you've got them .010-.020 or so off the lands. I think some people with Berger's were running them even closer than that; like .005" off the lands!
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
THAT is some good info! I'll try out the H1000, but will watch it over my chrono - I only have 1-lb of it so it shouldn't last too long
I'll watch my seating depth as well, but with these Berger 300gr and my magazine length I don't think I'll be in too much danger of jamming them,... or getting anywhere close for that matter. I'll let you know how it goes.
Ry
THAT is some good info! I'll try out the H1000, but will watch it over my chrono - I only have 1-lb of it so it shouldn't last too long
I'll watch my seating depth as well, but with these Berger 300gr and my magazine length I don't think I'll be in too much danger of jamming them,... or getting anywhere close for that matter. I'll let you know how it goes.
Ry
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vucelick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone finally shoot their gun with the PWS on it? I am waiting to order until I hear how effective it is. </div></div>
I've got mine mounted, but I have not shot it yet. hopefully soon.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vucelick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone finally shoot their gun with the PWS on it? I am waiting to order until I hear how effective it is. </div></div>
I've got mine mounted, but I have not shot it yet. hopefully soon.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Christmas has come early for me at least as my Rem .338 has just arrived at my dealers here in the UK (only ordered it in March so not too long....!!). Had almost forgotten about it so it came as a nice surprise to be told it had arrived unexpectedly.
Planning on Lapua components with Vit 570 to start. When I get it all sorted in Jan will post some loads and performance data.
Christmas has come early for me at least as my Rem .338 has just arrived at my dealers here in the UK (only ordered it in March so not too long....!!). Had almost forgotten about it so it came as a nice surprise to be told it had arrived unexpectedly.
Planning on Lapua components with Vit 570 to start. When I get it all sorted in Jan will post some loads and performance data.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Does anybody know exactly which stock I should order (McMillan or Manners) that will work with the factory bottom metal?
jwprecision.ca is one company that has MCM's in stock, but I can't think of the other one. Does anybody know anyone else who keeps some in stock?
Does anybody know exactly which stock I should order (McMillan or Manners) that will work with the factory bottom metal?
jwprecision.ca is one company that has MCM's in stock, but I can't think of the other one. Does anybody know anyone else who keeps some in stock?
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
You might want to call both McMillan and Manners and ask them if any of their stocks will work with the factory bottom metal. That bottom metal may have proprietary dimensions that don't quite match a Badger or other commonly used bottom metals. As it is, the magazine is made to Remingtons proprietary dimensions by Accurate Mag. Inletting can always be done by a good smith or a home by someone with the patients and skill.
You might want to call both McMillan and Manners and ask them if any of their stocks will work with the factory bottom metal. That bottom metal may have proprietary dimensions that don't quite match a Badger or other commonly used bottom metals. As it is, the magazine is made to Remingtons proprietary dimensions by Accurate Mag. Inletting can always be done by a good smith or a home by someone with the patients and skill.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
I might be mistaken, but I believe that the factory bottom metal will work in a standard 700 BDL LA inlet. I remember one of the guys here said the bottom metal fit well in an adjustable HS Precision stock with fatory floorplate inlet.
I might be mistaken, but I believe that the factory bottom metal will work in a standard 700 BDL LA inlet. I remember one of the guys here said the bottom metal fit well in an adjustable HS Precision stock with fatory floorplate inlet.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
I wonder if he was talking about the original MLR bottom metal which was made by HS Precision. HS bottom metal usually fits into a BDL inlet with little to no fitting. My local gun store had a new MLR next to a 700P in 7mm Rem Mag and the shape of the bottom metal looked a little differant. The MLR bottom metal looked a little wider and more square than the BDL, but I didn't compare them up close so I could be mistaken. To give you an idea of the size and shape of the original HS Precision metal. This is probably close to a BDL inlet. mtechgunman can compare these to his newer bottom metal.
I wonder if he was talking about the original MLR bottom metal which was made by HS Precision. HS bottom metal usually fits into a BDL inlet with little to no fitting. My local gun store had a new MLR next to a 700P in 7mm Rem Mag and the shape of the bottom metal looked a little differant. The MLR bottom metal looked a little wider and more square than the BDL, but I didn't compare them up close so I could be mistaken. To give you an idea of the size and shape of the original HS Precision metal. This is probably close to a BDL inlet. mtechgunman can compare these to his newer bottom metal.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
i put my mlr in a hs pst026 ( fully adjustable )stock with no issues at all. i got the rifle in 2010 with the badger type mag system.
i put my mlr in a hs pst026 ( fully adjustable )stock with no issues at all. i got the rifle in 2010 with the badger type mag system.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Does anyone know why I can't find this rifle on either of the Remington websites? Both their regular and LE sites have no mention of it that I can find.
Does anyone know why I can't find this rifle on either of the Remington websites? Both their regular and LE sites have no mention of it that I can find.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Shh... its a secret.
Remington would sell a shitload of these rifles if it was marketed properly. Wonder why the dont?
Shh... its a secret.
Remington would sell a shitload of these rifles if it was marketed properly. Wonder why the dont?
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mtechgunman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pic of buildup:
</div></div>
Mtechgunman Sometimes you can get worse carbon buildup like that if you are not running hot enough.
When the powder collum is ignited and the bullet leaves the brass the case seals against the chamber, from what i have read you are not running this cartridge up to it's potential, the reason that i got a lapua is to really reach out and touch someone and since i cannot own a 50 in cali that was the next logical step. try loading it up and see if the carbon goes away, and if the accuracy improves remember that cartridge is designed for really long ranges i don't even try to zero at 100 yards try running it out to 2 or 3 hundred just for fun. Well good luck and good shooting.
Justin Bowerman
JB Enterprise
07 FFL in CA.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mtechgunman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pic of buildup:
Mtechgunman Sometimes you can get worse carbon buildup like that if you are not running hot enough.
When the powder collum is ignited and the bullet leaves the brass the case seals against the chamber, from what i have read you are not running this cartridge up to it's potential, the reason that i got a lapua is to really reach out and touch someone and since i cannot own a 50 in cali that was the next logical step. try loading it up and see if the carbon goes away, and if the accuracy improves remember that cartridge is designed for really long ranges i don't even try to zero at 100 yards try running it out to 2 or 3 hundred just for fun. Well good luck and good shooting.
Justin Bowerman
JB Enterprise
07 FFL in CA.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Which bottom metal? The new ones with the Accurate Mags are using that proprietary mags that can only be purchased through Remington at inflated prices.
Which bottom metal? The new ones with the Accurate Mags are using that proprietary mags that can only be purchased through Remington at inflated prices.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
I believe from his earlier posts he was running 88 grs of Retumbo and 86 grs of RL25. I called Sierra recently to see if they had done load development for RL25 in the 338 Lapua with the 300 SMK. They still have not, and the tech referred me to data in Lymans 49th edition reloading handbook. For RL25, Lyman's starting load was 81.5 with a max load of 87.0 at a pressure of 61,800 psi. For Retumbo the starting load was 83.0 with a max of 88.0 at a pressure of 61,700 psi. Lyman used a universal receiver with a 24" 1-10" twist barrel. Going to Hodgdons online reloading data page, they show for Retumbo and a 300 gr SIE HPBT, a starting load of 85.0 gr and a max load of 94.0C at a pressure of 53,400 CUP. Different units of pressure, but quite a bit of difference in maximum load charges.
I believe from his earlier posts he was running 88 grs of Retumbo and 86 grs of RL25. I called Sierra recently to see if they had done load development for RL25 in the 338 Lapua with the 300 SMK. They still have not, and the tech referred me to data in Lymans 49th edition reloading handbook. For RL25, Lyman's starting load was 81.5 with a max load of 87.0 at a pressure of 61,800 psi. For Retumbo the starting load was 83.0 with a max of 88.0 at a pressure of 61,700 psi. Lyman used a universal receiver with a 24" 1-10" twist barrel. Going to Hodgdons online reloading data page, they show for Retumbo and a 300 gr SIE HPBT, a starting load of 85.0 gr and a max load of 94.0C at a pressure of 53,400 CUP. Different units of pressure, but quite a bit of difference in maximum load charges.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
Thanks for the informative last couple of posts. I haven't had time to do much lately with Christmas and everything, but hopefully I'll get a chance to get going again. I plan on ordering a new stock soon. Probably a Manners T1.
Hopefully everyone's christmas was good.
Thanks for the informative last couple of posts. I haven't had time to do much lately with Christmas and everything, but hopefully I'll get a chance to get going again. I plan on ordering a new stock soon. Probably a Manners T1.
Hopefully everyone's christmas was good.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe from his earlier posts he was running 88 grs of Retumbo and 86 grs of RL25. I called Sierra recently to see if they had done load development for RL25 in the 338 Lapua with the 300 SMK. They still have not, and the tech referred me to data in Lymans 49th edition reloading handbook. For RL25, Lyman's starting load was 81.5 with a max load of 87.0 at a pressure of 61,800 psi. For Retumbo the starting load was 83.0 with a max of 88.0 at a pressure of 61,700 psi. Lyman used a universal receiver with a 24" 1-10" twist barrel. Going to Hodgdons online reloading data page, they show for Retumbo and a 300 gr SIE HPBT, a starting load of 85.0 gr and a max load of 94.0C at a pressure of 53,400 CUP. Different units of pressure, but quite a bit of difference in maximum load charges. </div></div>
I stopped at 89 grains of retumbo. No signs of over pressure at that point, but it was about 35 degrees outside and I was already at about 2620 fps.
Without shooting more, I'm thinking I may have a blueprinting issue with my rifle. I had a guy suggest going with neck sizing instead of full length to see if that cures my accuracy issues. Anyway, this thing is so inaccurate, I'm having trouble buying anything but a blueprinting issue.
In my other rifles, I'd never see this bad of accuracy even with the very early stages of load development.
Also, I didn't mention it before, and it has nothing to do with accuracy, but the damn thing won't eject brass consistently. By consistently I mean almost never.
I'm thinking the guy who built my rifle was probably drunk or stoned, or maybe both.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe from his earlier posts he was running 88 grs of Retumbo and 86 grs of RL25. I called Sierra recently to see if they had done load development for RL25 in the 338 Lapua with the 300 SMK. They still have not, and the tech referred me to data in Lymans 49th edition reloading handbook. For RL25, Lyman's starting load was 81.5 with a max load of 87.0 at a pressure of 61,800 psi. For Retumbo the starting load was 83.0 with a max of 88.0 at a pressure of 61,700 psi. Lyman used a universal receiver with a 24" 1-10" twist barrel. Going to Hodgdons online reloading data page, they show for Retumbo and a 300 gr SIE HPBT, a starting load of 85.0 gr and a max load of 94.0C at a pressure of 53,400 CUP. Different units of pressure, but quite a bit of difference in maximum load charges. </div></div>
I stopped at 89 grains of retumbo. No signs of over pressure at that point, but it was about 35 degrees outside and I was already at about 2620 fps.
Without shooting more, I'm thinking I may have a blueprinting issue with my rifle. I had a guy suggest going with neck sizing instead of full length to see if that cures my accuracy issues. Anyway, this thing is so inaccurate, I'm having trouble buying anything but a blueprinting issue.
In my other rifles, I'd never see this bad of accuracy even with the very early stages of load development.
Also, I didn't mention it before, and it has nothing to do with accuracy, but the damn thing won't eject brass consistently. By consistently I mean almost never.
I'm thinking the guy who built my rifle was probably drunk or stoned, or maybe both.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cjevanoff</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hello, I am new to this forum. I am seriously thinking of buying a Rem 700, 338 lapua. I was wanting your opinions on this rifle. </div></div>
want to buy mine?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cjevanoff</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hello, I am new to this forum. I am seriously thinking of buying a Rem 700, 338 lapua. I was wanting your opinions on this rifle. </div></div>
want to buy mine?
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
I posted that as a bit of a joke, because I've had some accuracy issues. If you read the last few pages of this thread, you'll see what I'm talking about.
At this point, I may cut my losses and go pick up a GAP/UGSW 338.
A lot of people have had good success with their MLR's though.
I posted that as a bit of a joke, because I've had some accuracy issues. If you read the last few pages of this thread, you'll see what I'm talking about.
At this point, I may cut my losses and go pick up a GAP/UGSW 338.
A lot of people have had good success with their MLR's though.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
You're getting 3 to 4 MOA. Remingtion guaratees 1 MOA or better. If you are having those problems with it why don't you contact Remington. I e-mailed them the other day and it's suppose to have a hammer forged 4140 tool steel barrel, sounds like a decent barrel to me.
I'm no expert but I would definatly contact Remington and ask them the load specifications for 1 MOA and try using that.
You're getting 3 to 4 MOA. Remingtion guaratees 1 MOA or better. If you are having those problems with it why don't you contact Remington. I e-mailed them the other day and it's suppose to have a hammer forged 4140 tool steel barrel, sounds like a decent barrel to me.
I'm no expert but I would definatly contact Remington and ask them the load specifications for 1 MOA and try using that.
Re: Remington 700 Police 338 Lapua rifles
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cjevanoff</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You're getting 3 to 4 MOA. Remingtion guaratees 1 MOA or better. If you are having those problems with it why don't you contact Remington. I e-mailed them the other day and it's suppose to have a hammer forged 4140 tool steel barrel, sounds like a decent barrel to me.
I'm no expert but I would definatly contact Remington and ask them the load specifications for 1 MOA and try using that. </div></div>
I highly doubt it is an ammunition problem. And quite frankly, I need .5 MOA or better. I plan on shooting 338 to a mile.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cjevanoff</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You're getting 3 to 4 MOA. Remingtion guaratees 1 MOA or better. If you are having those problems with it why don't you contact Remington. I e-mailed them the other day and it's suppose to have a hammer forged 4140 tool steel barrel, sounds like a decent barrel to me.
I'm no expert but I would definatly contact Remington and ask them the load specifications for 1 MOA and try using that. </div></div>
I highly doubt it is an ammunition problem. And quite frankly, I need .5 MOA or better. I plan on shooting 338 to a mile.
