They are both scopes. The top one is a Winchester A5 which I replaced the cross hairs in and manufactured the spring for. The bottom one, which is the copper one in the top photo, is unknown. It looks somewhat like a Mossberg 7A, or Wollensack but it is neither. I've done some exhaustive research and the only thing I could find was another person with the same scope asking if anyone could Identify it. It is actually a variable power, around 3x-6x, adjusted by the little turret knob on top which slides the lenses in an internal tube. I took it completely apart to clean and there are no markings whatsoever. They are not too hard to repair, but very tedious. I had to wear 6x magnifying glasses just to see the cross hair while working with it. [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/Msq1Rlts.jpg"}[/IMG2]
Interesting note, they are called cross hairs, because they originally were made from just that...hair (or spider web). I've triedvusing the fine under-coat hair from my German Shepherd, but it really is too thick, giving a cross hair that obscures the target.