Rimfire Rifle Photos Thread
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Well your title doesn't say this is only open to tactical style rifles so here is one for you:
It's a Ballard 6 1/2 Rigby off hand rifle. Made approx. 1887. The original barrel is gone which most likely would've been a .32-40 or a .38-55 but other calibers could've been had on special order. The action is factory engraved like most 6 1/2 Ballards were. The gun was sent to Stevens (which later was purchased by Savage which is why it became known as Savage-Stevens) around 1909-1910. Stevens rebarreled the rifle and modified the original breech block and converted it to .22RF. The muzzle diameter is .875 and it is 1.032" across the flats (approx. 1.120" diameter at the breech). Barrel finish length is 30".
The barrel wasn't rifled by Harry Pope (barrel is marked Stevens-Pope) as Pope had left Stevens by Dec. 1905 or real early 1906. The s/n of the barrel is 1720. The last barrels Pope rifled at Stevens was s/n 1244 or 1246. So most likely this barrel was rifled by Fred Ross. Fred was Popes right hand man at Stevens while he was there but the rifling is Pope style rifling.
The rifling has a left hand twist, 8 grooves and has gain twist rifling.
When it got rebarreled at Stevens the Stevens forearm was added (to bad the original Ballard forearm was fancy wood and had a horn tip but it would've been for a round barrel not the half octagon/half round barrel that it was replaced with). At the time of the rebarrel the then new Winchester A5 scope was added. The scope has from what I've been told a pretty rare reticle. It's a post with a open circle on top of it. No horizontal cross hairs. These came out in 1909. I have the original Marlin mid range veneer tang sight but the original front sight is gone as the barrel was not fitted with open sights at all. It would've had a windage adjustable globe front sight.
Dug it out to do some minor restoration on it and get it back shooting again. The muzzles crown needs to be redone as it's damaged, and the bottom of the buttstock is chipped/cracked and needs to be repaired. The bore of the barrel is mint. No pitting etc...
Later, Frank
Very nice frank. Too bad its not a Pope barrel that would be super cool, not trying to take anything away from its bad assness by the way... Let us know how it shoots when you get the crown touched up.
Frank, that a remarkable gun. Thanks for sharing.
Well your title doesn't say this is only open to tactical style rifles so here is one for you:
It's a Ballard 6 1/2 Rigby off hand rifle. Made approx. 1887. The original barrel is gone which most likely would've been a .32-40 or a .38-55 but other calibers could've been had on special order. The action is factory engraved like most 6 1/2 Ballards were. The gun was sent to Stevens (which later was purchased by Savage which is why it became known as Savage-Stevens) around 1909-1910. Stevens rebarreled the rifle and modified the original breech block and converted it to .22RF. The muzzle diameter is .875 and it is 1.032" across the flats (approx. 1.120" diameter at the breech). Barrel finish length is 30".
The barrel wasn't rifled by Harry Pope (barrel is marked Stevens-Pope) as Pope had left Stevens by Dec. 1905 or real early 1906. The s/n of the barrel is 1720. The last barrels Pope rifled at Stevens was s/n 1244 or 1246. So most likely this barrel was rifled by Fred Ross. Fred was Popes right hand man at Stevens while he was there but the rifling is Pope style rifling.
The rifling has a left hand twist, 8 grooves and has gain twist rifling.
When it got rebarreled at Stevens the Stevens forearm was added (to bad the original Ballard forearm was fancy wood and had a horn tip but it would've been for a round barrel not the half octagon/half round barrel that it was replaced with). At the time of the rebarrel the then new Winchester A5 scope was added. The scope has from what I've been told a pretty rare reticle. It's a post with a open circle on top of it. No horizontal cross hairs. These came out in 1909. I have the original Marlin mid range veneer tang sight but the original front sight is gone as the barrel was not fitted with open sights at all. It would've had a windage adjustable globe front sight.
Dug it out to do some minor restoration on it and get it back shooting again. The muzzles crown needs to be redone as it's damaged, and the bottom of the buttstock is chipped/cracked and needs to be repaired. The bore of the barrel is mint. No pitting etc...
Later, Frank
Thanks for all the nice comments!
Jbell, Gonna send it out to Wyoming Armory to get the crown redone and the stock fixed. I could recrown it here but don't have an action wrench etc...to take the barrel off. So gonna send it off to Steve Garbe and crew and have them touch it up. Going to get Steve to do a test groups with it before and after the crown gets done. He also has a Pope machine rest to put the gun in. Will let you know how it turns out.
Later, Frank
Jbell, Gonna send it out to Wyoming Armory to get the crown redone and the stock fixed. I could recrown it here but don't have an action wrench etc...to take the barrel off. So gonna send it off to Steve Garbe and crew and have them touch it up. Going to get Steve to do a test groups with it before and after the crown gets done. He also has a Pope machine rest to put the gun in. Will let you know how it turns out.
Later, Frank
Anny Gun - for all the lefties out there...
Anschutz 1913 Super Match
"test" target
Anschutz 1913 Super Match
"test" target
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My Anschutz 1827 Fortner Biathlon
That is my dream 22lr rifle right there. Is that the March 3-24 FFP mil on top? Would trade my PGW Coyote for that complete system! Very Nice wood!!!
That is my dream 22lr rifle right there. Is that the March 3-24 FFP mil on top? Would trade my PGW Coyote for that complete system! Very Nice wood!!!
Yep you guessed the scope right.
Lucked out getting that nice piece of wood!!!
I knew this was the one for me once I discovered what the Fortner action was all about and it's taken my entire adult life to figure out exactly what I wanted in 22. I'm actually content for a change.
I've had the pleasure of shooting a suppressed PGW Coyote before, super nice rifle!
Thanks
You sound quite happy with that system as it sits! I have several 22lr precision rigs including Lilja, Kidd, VQ, Dlask etc and am still looking for the perfect item. Both the 1827F and the 3-24 mil FFP March scope are on my next to buy list. I am amazed at the wood on yours! Did I mention I had a 2nd 18" fitted Krieger barrel and 5 mags for the PGW (hint Hint) Lol. I am looking forward to finding a 1827F when the funds allow. Enjoy yours! It looks great
Mr Spradlin, I am going to call foul on your post until you give up the specs on your very beautiful rifle.
The action is a Myers built by Stiller. The barrel is a Lilja. The stock blank is Claro walnut Laminate with carbon fiber in between each piece and was made by Evan Koch out of Minnesota and was machined by Jim Peightal out of PA and the stock was finished by Jim Hawkins here in the Seattle/Tacoma area. Its the same rifle it my other pics wearing the purple stock. Just did not like the McMillan.
Thank you. It is an admirable piece. BTW, I happen to be sitting in the sky lounge here at SEATAC awaiting a red eye back to Dixie.
Now thats funny because its still at Jim Hawkins shop about 5 minutes away from where your sitting.
Here's the Savage MK2 wearing a Boyds' Varminter stock. I've tried something a bit different for the bedding this time. Used nylon pillars and "floated" the barrel & action so the only contact is now with the two pillars, through the action screws. Picture shows a small gap at the side with paper slid into it. I'm not sure how this will work, but I figure I can always go in and bed the action completely if I need to. I left the nylon a few thousandths too long and then set it in epoxy. Hopefully, this will tighten up the groups a bit from the factory stock, but will re-test this weekend to see how it likes things and fiddle with the torque settings on the screws.
Hi all, have been reading the rimfire forum with interest for a while and have finally decided to get a rimfire and join the party. Its still pretty much a stock rifle but i love it all the same - CZ 455 Varmint, Sirocco SM11 Moderator and a Nikko Stirling Nighteater 8-32x44 scope. Have plans to improve it, beginning with a replacement trigger unit. Now to get it zero'd and enter this months 50 yard tactical rimfire competition!
Excuse the horrible picture quality, my phone is awful. Will replace with decent pics in time.
Excuse the horrible picture quality, my phone is awful. Will replace with decent pics in time.
Decided to buy my 1st rifle a present this week. I was 12 when I bought this new, it's over 50 now, so I mounted a new scope & tried it out this morning. Not sure about the flyer, but I think it may have been me. Remington Nylon 10, single shot, about 1962. I was worried about spending so much money for it, $21.00!
I just finished this for my daughter. She's 5.
Savage MKII FV cut down to 9" LOP, Thunderbeast 30P-1, T1 clone. The can is obviously mine, but this thing is stupid quiet.
Savage MKII FV cut down to 9" LOP, Thunderbeast 30P-1, T1 clone. The can is obviously mine, but this thing is stupid quiet.
Here is one that's been in the works for a while and finally said going to start to finish it.
I'm replicating the 1924 International match .22RF rifles that our teams used back then. They were originally built on 1922 Springfield actions. I used a regular 1903 action that was built around 1906 or so. The original guns had 30" finish length barrels. I made mine 28". My replica like the originals has the same barrel contour and I'm using a 1918 BAR front sight base. Which I have to machine the dovetail yet for a Winchester or Lyman globe sight. The stock I'm using is close to the 1924 guns but it is a Win. Model 70 marksman stock that was cracked and beat up/hacked on. I'm about half way thru reworking it. I reinletted it for the 1903 action and pillar/glass bedded it. Still need to pick up bottom metal. The barrel is c.m. steel like the originals and will get blued along with the refinishing the action. The barrel has gain twist rifling that goes from 16.25 to 15.9 twist. The barrel measures 1.220" x 2.000" at the receiver and then straight tapers to .900 right in front of the sight base. Muzzle diameter for the sight base is .750". Enjoy the pics.....
Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels
I'm replicating the 1924 International match .22RF rifles that our teams used back then. They were originally built on 1922 Springfield actions. I used a regular 1903 action that was built around 1906 or so. The original guns had 30" finish length barrels. I made mine 28". My replica like the originals has the same barrel contour and I'm using a 1918 BAR front sight base. Which I have to machine the dovetail yet for a Winchester or Lyman globe sight. The stock I'm using is close to the 1924 guns but it is a Win. Model 70 marksman stock that was cracked and beat up/hacked on. I'm about half way thru reworking it. I reinletted it for the 1903 action and pillar/glass bedded it. Still need to pick up bottom metal. The barrel is c.m. steel like the originals and will get blued along with the refinishing the action. The barrel has gain twist rifling that goes from 16.25 to 15.9 twist. The barrel measures 1.220" x 2.000" at the receiver and then straight tapers to .900 right in front of the sight base. Muzzle diameter for the sight base is .750". Enjoy the pics.....
Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels
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Wow Frank, as a pretty hard core military vintage guy I'm trying to not let the drool hit the key board. Ditto on Top Predator's comment, how much, and will you do more?
Doing them isn't the hard part. At least I don't think so. Right now because mine is built on a regular 1903 Springfield receiver it's going to be a single shot only deal. I sealed up the bottom of the receiver with devcon bedding compound. I might try and mill out the cut out area for the 1922 Springfield rimfire magazine but I would need the bottom metal as well (which I'm currently looking for). If I we're to do it or suggest someone to do it I would look for a donor 1922 Springfield action. As I had to find a rimfire bolt assy. as well. Then it's just a matter of rebuilding it with a new barrel and a new stock. Getting the BAR front sight base is easy. Plenty out there. Getting a new reproduction Winchester front sight globe (which is the route I'm going) or getting a lyman 17a sight globe is no big deal. Getting a nice stock will be the hard part. Once I've got mine all together I think I'm gonna have Master Class Stocks make me a brand new Win. Marksman style stock out of a nice piece of wood. I picked up the Lyman 48c sight and drilled and tapped the receiver in the proper location for it. I'm also gonna drill and tap the barrel for Unertl scope blocks and use the scope most of the time.
Fitting the barrel to the action. You have to make a ejector clearance cut on the breech face and an extractor cut and it has to be timed to the receiver. Not hard just machine work and time.
Barrel $325 (unless you wanted the 30" finish then your looking at $355 for the blank) add $40 for the gain twist.
Barrel installation approx. $300
Install the BAR sight base $50 (you have to turn the muzzle down and mill the key slot for the sight band).
Mill the sight base for the dovetail cut I would say around $50.
Winchester style globe front sight with spirit level I believe they are about $175
Lyman 48 sight. Expect to pay $100-$200 or more depending on condition.
BAR sight base my guess is $10-$25 bucks.
Stock? A McMillan Marksman stock would be a great choice. I don't think they will inlet it for a 1903 action though. Get it as a blank and you would need someone to fit it. I won't do that or like I said Master Class Stocks for a wood one and he will inlet and fit it. Maybe Manners would help if there was enough interest in getting several done?
Plus cost of the receiver and bolt or a donor 1922 rifle. Here you could spend say $400 to $1200.
That would give you an idea on costs.
I'll post some more pics down the road when it's all together and I've shot some targets as well. I've only test fired two rounds thru it so far with the barreled action not in the stock.
Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels
Nothing special Im waiting till first of the year to get some good glass. with the 30 year old fixed power no name no number scope Im shooting consistant clover leafs(5 shot) at 50 yards, so Im hopeful with good glass and a few more mods itll do nicely at 100. Ive actually shot a few one hole groups just barely larger than a .22 bullet, but I left the target at the range F@$&!
the shoot and see was 5 shots at 50yrds, the orange dot was 20 rounds you can cover with a dime at 50 yards, the green target is 150-200 rapid fire rounds at 50(had some fliers)
the shoot and see was 5 shots at 50yrds, the orange dot was 20 rounds you can cover with a dime at 50 yards, the green target is 150-200 rapid fire rounds at 50(had some fliers)
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Costs? You could go two different ways.
Option 1.) Duplicate the barrel contour for a standard 1922/1903 Springfield contour. This would allow you to use a standard 1903 stock. The barrel itself would still cost $325.
Installation would be $270-300 (thread, chamber, time, ejector clearance cut and also an extractor cut need to be done to the breech face and cut and crown the muzzle.)
You supply your own stock fitting/installation.
You supply the action and bolt.
Your option #2 would be the route that I went in doing the International match rifle type build and pick up all the components like I listed. You could modify your build and use standard Unertl type blocks and use regular match rifle type sights etc...
I guess it all depends on how deep you want to get into it.
Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels
My Anschutz 1827 Fortner Biathlon
This is one top notch setup. What a setup. It doesn't get better than that.
OK, I'll play.
My 22LR M40a1 Trainer, 10X scope, USMC return stock, and Remington 40X single shot. It is heavier than my Eddie Ryan M40a1 that came from Quantico. My upper body is built like a Marine upside down, waistline larger than shoulder, therefore I do not walk around in the woods with this thing slung across my shoulder
My 22LR M40a1 Trainer, 10X scope, USMC return stock, and Remington 40X single shot. It is heavier than my Eddie Ryan M40a1 that came from Quantico. My upper body is built like a Marine upside down, waistline larger than shoulder, therefore I do not walk around in the woods with this thing slung across my shoulder
Got a hummer for a decent price.
IMG_0689 by Armed Ferret, on Flickr
IMG_0692 by Armed Ferret, on Flickr
Rings are just to get a baseline for height. Not going to actually use those...
IMG_0689 by Armed Ferret, on Flickr
IMG_0692 by Armed Ferret, on Flickr
Rings are just to get a baseline for height. Not going to actually use those...
Did some playing with mine. Have a new Fedderson barrel on it, as well as a different scope.
Though with the weather getting crappy up here, I have exactly 0 rounds through it right now. Really hope to change that REAL soon.
Though with the weather getting crappy up here, I have exactly 0 rounds through it right now. Really hope to change that REAL soon.
Here's my freshly finished MKII FV-SR "airsoft abomination". Is it a high end target rifle? No, but for under $500 I think I got a nice beginners rifle pillar bedded into a solid aluminum framed stock with a shape that my bum wrist is much more comfortable aligning. Oh and this particular airsoft stock is a better fit to me than the TRR-SR my wife has and miles above the flimsy plastic thing savage shipped with it.
Anybody point me in the right direction as far as how to do this? I would love to do a 22 or 17 HMR build like this but don't want to actually spend big bucks on an ACIS. If anybody has information please PM me, I tried Ice and haven't heard back from him.
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There are a few threads around talking about these conversions. Nothing more than an airsoft stock modified to fit the rifle.
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