Rifle Scopes S&B PM2 advice?

[Bloodstriker]

I'm saving up for an S&B PM2 to put on a TRG 22. I'm trying to figure out if I want to go 5-25 or 12-50. I tend to like more mag, but I'm sure both will be fine. The question I have is related to options. The website is not very good at explaining what all the options are. It lists the elevation adjustment as 0,1 mrad and elevation at 0-22 mrad. So this means 1 click is 1cm at 100m. Now, the total adjustment is 220 cm at 100m (roughly 86 MOA?). Also, what does MTC mean?

 

[19Scout77]

A little unsolicited advice...before you drop $3500+ on a scope that you know nothing about other than "the internet says its the best", do a little research and figure things out for yourself. You will be alot better off in the long run.Give a man a fish he eats for a day...teach a man to fish ...

Assuming your TRG is still a .308, neither one of those scopes is ideal...although one is CONSIDERABLY more appropriate than the other...once more, assuming you are using the rifle for something other than benchrest.

 

[jbell]

If it were me I would get the 5-25 (actually thats is what I use on my TRG). As you increase magnification in a rifle scope you will start giving up optical performance. For me that is what sets the Benders apart from the rest. Not to mention you are putting it on a field rifle that is ment to be shot in field conditions. Now this is not to say you cant use the TRG in benchrest style shooting, even though the stock isnt optimal for that style shooting. If you are going to use it in LR benchrest or F class then the higher magnification may do well for you but you will be limited by the caliber and not the scope. I think you will find that you will be dialing the mag back down in all but optimal atmospheric conditions. Long story short what I am tring to say is that the benefits dont outweigh the limitations IMO...

 

[sib1948]

The 5-25 56mm is more than enough for LR shooting. Above that you can generally just use for spotting and evaluating mirage. If you have not handled many scopes, I would recommend getting something in the $1000 range with matching reticle and turrets and FFP, if possible and get out and shoot, shoot and shoot. Then you'll realize what you need and want. Then read the Optics Selection sticky here on the Hide several times and you can make an informed decision and spend your hard earned money more wisely!!!!

 

[Jerry R]

Give me a call at the service center any time between 6 and 2 EST M-F and I'll be more than happy to answer any S&B related question you have.

 

[Bloodstriker]

Give me a call at the service center any time between 6 and 2 EST M-F and I'll be more than happy to answer any S&B related question you have.

Thanks! I'll call in a few days.

 

[Bloodstriker]

A little unsolicited advice...before you drop $3500+ on a scope that you know nothing about other than "the internet says its the best", do a little research and figure things out for yourself. You will be alot better off in the long run.Give a man a fish he eats for a day...teach a man to fish ...

Assuming your TRG is still a .308, neither one of those scopes is ideal...although one is CONSIDERABLY more appropriate than the other...once more, assuming you are using the rifle for something other than benchrest.

I understand that the 5-25 is the more appropriate one. I've actually used it before. However, I haven't looked through a 12-50 and was wondering how that is when comparing clarity.

My question was more about the suitability of different options.

 

[NateD33]

Clarity will be pretty much the same but I would think about that low end power limiting your field of view at shorter distances. I run a s&b 3-20 and I feel that it's perfect for most short actions because you get the best of both worlds and that 5 power you'll miss out on won't be detrimental to a short actions performance, it's also a bit smaller and more "fitting" to a short action rifle, just my opinion. The MTC means "More Tactile Clicks" which means there are more "positive" clicks on your turrets when come to a "hard" numbers that helps for reference when staying on the glass while making an adjustment or low light shooting. So when you make adjustments and you come to 1mil there will be a noticeably more positive click, then regular clicks until you hit 2mil and the same to 3 mil and so on. My only complaint is that it takes some time to get used to and when you need to make an adjustment for example to 3.1 mils sometime you will overshoot because of the "positiveness" of the click and will land on 3.3 mil and have to backtrack. On the windage knob it only has the MTC click at zero and the rest are normal, which is something I like. Not a deal breaker for most but it's kinda counter productive to it's purpose sometimes until your used to it. Hope that helps and good luck ...