i was looking to buy a remi 700 7mm rem mag..however today i saw a savage 10fcp for sale in .308 ...very nice looking..just curious on yalls opinions as to which one is nicer? i intend to throw either of them into another stock..such as a bell and carlson or a mcmillan? any pros and cons with either gun? the savage had accutrigger and a fluted barrel with oversized knob
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Savage or Remi?
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Re: Savage or Remi?
What would the primary use of the rifle be? Hunting, target / accuracy rig, etc?
What would the primary use of the rifle be? Hunting, target / accuracy rig, etc?
Re: Savage or Remi?
"Remington"!! Okie yelled as loud as he could as he turned and ran in a zig zag pattern with his hands cuped over his head.
okie
"Remington"!! Okie yelled as loud as he could as he turned and ran in a zig zag pattern with his hands cuped over his head.
okie
Re: Savage or Remi?
primary use would be just playing around at the range with it..farthest being around 550yds
primary use would be just playing around at the range with it..farthest being around 550yds
Re: Savage or Remi?
the thing that interests me in the savage is this...it was listed as a model 10fcp with a desert tan stock on it and a 22" fluted bull barrel ..price was 699...and i cant seem to find anything like this online anywhere..and this was at a dept store so its factory..not used and altered
the thing that interests me in the savage is this...it was listed as a model 10fcp with a desert tan stock on it and a 22" fluted bull barrel ..price was 699...and i cant seem to find anything like this online anywhere..and this was at a dept store so its factory..not used and altered
Re: Savage or Remi?
I'm going to channel Boltripper for a second and advise you to buy the one you can afford and shoot it until you are proficient.
That being said, 308 would be easier on you than a 7mm mag, both physically and monetarily. I've never owned a savage and have a ton on Remingtons, so I'd lean Rem, but not in 7mm mag.
I'm going to channel Boltripper for a second and advise you to buy the one you can afford and shoot it until you are proficient.
That being said, 308 would be easier on you than a 7mm mag, both physically and monetarily. I've never owned a savage and have a ton on Remingtons, so I'd lean Rem, but not in 7mm mag.
Re: Savage or Remi?
I like both,my 10fp shot just as well as my 700 PSS.I sent my 700 to have it trued and a new barrel,the action was alot smoother when it came back but the 10fp still would shoot right along with it.
If you like to tinker and do your own work then Savage is the gun for you.It can be rebarreled with a few tools right on your work bench and you can remove the bolt handle for your flavor of the day.
I like both,my 10fp shot just as well as my 700 PSS.I sent my 700 to have it trued and a new barrel,the action was alot smoother when it came back but the 10fp still would shoot right along with it.
If you like to tinker and do your own work then Savage is the gun for you.It can be rebarreled with a few tools right on your work bench and you can remove the bolt handle for your flavor of the day.
Re: Savage or Remi?
For just playing around at the range with, I'd go with the .308 Win over a 7mm Rem Mag. Cheaper to feed and easier on the shoulder. But for that intended purpose, I'd pick a .223 Remington over .308 Win. As far as manufacturer goes, try each on for size and pick the one that fits best.
For just playing around at the range with, I'd go with the .308 Win over a 7mm Rem Mag. Cheaper to feed and easier on the shoulder. But for that intended purpose, I'd pick a .223 Remington over .308 Win. As far as manufacturer goes, try each on for size and pick the one that fits best.
Re: Savage or Remi?
another thing is..the savage has a detachable box mag..kinda cool..will I be able to put that into a mcmillan and still use the detachable box mag??or more importantly..can I just "drop" the savage rigt into an A3 adjustable or do I have to special order one to fit that
another thing is..the savage has a detachable box mag..kinda cool..will I be able to put that into a mcmillan and still use the detachable box mag??or more importantly..can I just "drop" the savage rigt into an A3 adjustable or do I have to special order one to fit that
Re: Savage or Remi?
There is no right answer between Remington and Savage. I can agree however that .308 is a better choice of caliber.
The truth is, the Remington vs. Savage argument is much like the Ford vs. Chevy argument. Everyone has their own opinions, experiences, and thoughts.
However, both of these gun manufacturers spit out extremely quality firearms. You can not go wrong with either one.
But if you asked me that same question sitting next to me in a bar, my answer would simply be: Remington.
Remington 700 all the way bud, in .308.
There is no right answer between Remington and Savage. I can agree however that .308 is a better choice of caliber.
The truth is, the Remington vs. Savage argument is much like the Ford vs. Chevy argument. Everyone has their own opinions, experiences, and thoughts.
However, both of these gun manufacturers spit out extremely quality firearms. You can not go wrong with either one.
But if you asked me that same question sitting next to me in a bar, my answer would simply be: Remington.
Remington 700 all the way bud, in .308.
Re: Savage or Remi?
remember, your in a bar and some stranger is trying to sell you a remmy, lol. im kidding. but all of us savage guys will say savage, all the remmy guys will say remmy. there is not much you can do to or get for one that you cant get for or do to the other. try savage 10s in mcmillan A5 or the HS. if your gonna swap savage stocks, skip the extra you pay for an accustock model, unless you have to have the fluted barrel with brake. otherwise if your gonna rebarrel right off, buy a base 10fp or fcp in you want a magazine setup. if you get a stock for it, you can get it to fit anything. if you want an aftermarket mag system, like CDI, get a 10fp. no sense paying for a DBM if your gonna install CDI or Dbull or whoever.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: okiefired</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Remington"!! Okie yelled as loud as he could as he turned and ran in a zig zag pattern with his hands cuped over his head.
okie </div></div>
thats funny
remember, your in a bar and some stranger is trying to sell you a remmy, lol. im kidding. but all of us savage guys will say savage, all the remmy guys will say remmy. there is not much you can do to or get for one that you cant get for or do to the other. try savage 10s in mcmillan A5 or the HS. if your gonna swap savage stocks, skip the extra you pay for an accustock model, unless you have to have the fluted barrel with brake. otherwise if your gonna rebarrel right off, buy a base 10fp or fcp in you want a magazine setup. if you get a stock for it, you can get it to fit anything. if you want an aftermarket mag system, like CDI, get a 10fp. no sense paying for a DBM if your gonna install CDI or Dbull or whoever.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: okiefired</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Remington"!! Okie yelled as loud as he could as he turned and ran in a zig zag pattern with his hands cuped over his head.
okie </div></div>
thats funny
Re: Savage or Remi?
Read reviews on both. Thats what I did and I chose Remington. Way more aftermarket parts and gret out of the box precision
Read reviews on both. Thats what I did and I chose Remington. Way more aftermarket parts and gret out of the box precision
Re: Savage or Remi?
Chevy or Ford? Jeep or Landrover? There is no right answer. Buy the one you want. Buy the one that fits in your price range. Buy the one that feels right. Get your hands on both, cycle the bolts, feel the triggers, plan what you want from the rig, and make your decision based on that.
Chevy or Ford? Jeep or Landrover? There is no right answer. Buy the one you want. Buy the one that fits in your price range. Buy the one that feels right. Get your hands on both, cycle the bolts, feel the triggers, plan what you want from the rig, and make your decision based on that.
Re: Savage or Remi?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Read reviews on both. Thats what I did and I chose Remington. Way more aftermarket parts and gret out of the box precision </div></div>
Really?
1. The "great out of the box precision" is arguably in favor of the Savage.
2. The aftermarket used to favor Remington exclusively, but the market for savage accessories has decidedly increased over the past couple of years. DBMs used to be out of the question, along with aftermarket stocks, bolt work, triggers, barrels, and the like. Now you have a ton of options.
Stocks - HS Precision, Manners, McMillan, etc. Accuracy International is even coming out with a chassis system for savage.
DBM - CDI precision, AICS
Bolt work, Barrels, and Triggers - Tons of options...just look for them.
Lately, Savage has been one of the few manufacturers really listening to the wants and needs of the shooting population and it is reflected in their offerings.
Just so you understand I am completely unbiased here...I own neither as of this second. I owned a Savage 10fp when the accu-trigger first hit the market. I sold it and purchased a Remington 700P because of the hype about the aftermarket and accuracy. At that time (about 6 years ago) Remington held a large advantage in the aftermarket. That is not true today...and my Remington shot decidedly worse than the savage straight out of the box.
I now own a Sako TRG-22 and couldn't be happier. If I were able to take back one of those previous rifles it would be the Savage.
They will both shoot well, but may need work to get it there. they can both be built into rifles of equal quality and accessories. I will echo the advice above and tell you the 308 will do most everything the 7 Mag will with the exception of taking serious big game. Your wallet will also thank you.
Josh
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Read reviews on both. Thats what I did and I chose Remington. Way more aftermarket parts and gret out of the box precision </div></div>
Really?
1. The "great out of the box precision" is arguably in favor of the Savage.
2. The aftermarket used to favor Remington exclusively, but the market for savage accessories has decidedly increased over the past couple of years. DBMs used to be out of the question, along with aftermarket stocks, bolt work, triggers, barrels, and the like. Now you have a ton of options.
Stocks - HS Precision, Manners, McMillan, etc. Accuracy International is even coming out with a chassis system for savage.
DBM - CDI precision, AICS
Bolt work, Barrels, and Triggers - Tons of options...just look for them.
Lately, Savage has been one of the few manufacturers really listening to the wants and needs of the shooting population and it is reflected in their offerings.
Just so you understand I am completely unbiased here...I own neither as of this second. I owned a Savage 10fp when the accu-trigger first hit the market. I sold it and purchased a Remington 700P because of the hype about the aftermarket and accuracy. At that time (about 6 years ago) Remington held a large advantage in the aftermarket. That is not true today...and my Remington shot decidedly worse than the savage straight out of the box.
I now own a Sako TRG-22 and couldn't be happier. If I were able to take back one of those previous rifles it would be the Savage.
They will both shoot well, but may need work to get it there. they can both be built into rifles of equal quality and accessories. I will echo the advice above and tell you the 308 will do most everything the 7 Mag will with the exception of taking serious big game. Your wallet will also thank you.
Josh
Re: Savage or Remi?
Get a Savage, and when you save the money, send it to Kevin Rayhill at Stockade guns. He builds stocks for Savages, and is a Savage specialist. My gun is a tackdriver that built for me, and my wife loves hers. I also have a Remington 308 custom shop 700 bolt gun, and my savage from the factory was not far from it.
Get a Savage, and when you save the money, send it to Kevin Rayhill at Stockade guns. He builds stocks for Savages, and is a Savage specialist. My gun is a tackdriver that built for me, and my wife loves hers. I also have a Remington 308 custom shop 700 bolt gun, and my savage from the factory was not far from it.
Re: Savage or Remi?
dont forget Dbull bottom metal. i really dont think there is one thing that you can get for a remmy that you cannot get for a savage. plus i can swap barrels in 15 minutes. even Tac Ops built a savage based 110 that still shoots like a Tac Ops. one small ragged hole.
its not like it used to be
dont forget Dbull bottom metal. i really dont think there is one thing that you can get for a remmy that you cannot get for a savage. plus i can swap barrels in 15 minutes. even Tac Ops built a savage based 110 that still shoots like a Tac Ops. one small ragged hole.
its not like it used to be
Re: Savage or Remi?
Id go Rem 700 every time.
Things I dont like about the Savage-
The saftey sucks.
Accutrigger sucks.
Insanely heavy boltlift sucks.
Gritty feel when cycling the bolt sucks.
Id go Rem 700 every time.
Things I dont like about the Savage-
The saftey sucks.
Accutrigger sucks.
Insanely heavy boltlift sucks.
Gritty feel when cycling the bolt sucks.
Re: Savage or Remi?
you guys are great..thanks for all the feedback..I think y'all hav settled my mind on sticking towards the. 308 cal..now I guess I gotta flip a quarter between remi and sav..lol
you guys are great..thanks for all the feedback..I think y'all hav settled my mind on sticking towards the. 308 cal..now I guess I gotta flip a quarter between remi and sav..lol
Re: Savage or Remi?
If I'm jacking this thread I'm sorry! My buddy just bought a remi in .308 with an A5 stock at the gunshow Saturday. What happened to Remington? It looks like they slapped on the bolt in the action and did not care too much about truing and timing it. We took it out today and it's horrible! All over the place! (it did put them all in a 6" shoot and see at 100 yards) I could'nt get it to shoot an MOA. I'm gonna bed it for him and see if it gets better.
If I'm jacking this thread I'm sorry! My buddy just bought a remi in .308 with an A5 stock at the gunshow Saturday. What happened to Remington? It looks like they slapped on the bolt in the action and did not care too much about truing and timing it. We took it out today and it's horrible! All over the place! (it did put them all in a 6" shoot and see at 100 yards) I could'nt get it to shoot an MOA. I'm gonna bed it for him and see if it gets better.
Re: Savage or Remi?
What model was it..? It should be shooting wayyy better than that. Try feed it some good ammo. Federal gold medal
What model was it..? It should be shooting wayyy better than that. Try feed it some good ammo. Federal gold medal
Re: Savage or Remi?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Read reviews on both. Thats what I did and I chose Remington. Way more aftermarket parts and gret out of the box precision </div></div>
Really?
1. The "great out of the box precision" is arguably in favor of the Savage.
2. The aftermarket used to favor Remington exclusively, but the market for savage accessories has decidedly increased over the past couple of years. DBMs used to be out of the question, along with aftermarket stocks, bolt work, triggers, barrels, and the like. Now you have a ton of options.
Stocks - HS Precision, Manners, McMillan, etc. Accuracy International is even coming out with a chassis system for savage.
DBM - CDI precision, AICS
Bolt work, Barrels, and Triggers - Tons of options...just look for them.
Lately, Savage has been one of the few manufacturers really listening to the wants and needs of the shooting population and it is reflected in their offerings.
Just so you understand I am completely unbiased here...I own neither as of this second. I owned a Savage 10fp when the accu-trigger first hit the market. I sold it and purchased a Remington 700P because of the hype about the aftermarket and accuracy. At that time (about 6 years ago) Remington held a large advantage in the aftermarket. That is not true today...and my Remington shot decidedly worse than the savage straight out of the box.
I now own a Sako TRG-22 and couldn't be happier. If I were able to take back one of those previous rifles it would be the Savage.
They will both shoot well, but may need work to get it there. they can both be built into rifles of equal quality and accessories. I will echo the advice above and tell you the 308 will do most everything the 7 Mag will with the exception of taking serious big game. Your wallet will also thank you.
Josh </div></div>
I just purchased a sps varmint. Shoots sub .5 moa in its AICS. I was deadset on an AICS so that put Savage out of the loop immediately for me. Also, every gunsmith around me is familiar with the 700 action. Not so much with the Savage. I hate the AccuTrigger, but thats just my opinion. A lot of ppl write about how they hate the X-mark pro, but for a stock trigger I couldnt not ask for anything more. Mine breaks clean at around 2.5 lbs. I honestly think the only problem with a remington rifle is the stock. They are pieces of shit, at least for the cheaper models. Once thats replaced they shoot awesome (at least for me).
None of this is to say a Savage will not work for you. If you like the Accutrigger and have had good experiences with Savage then by all means recommend them. I have no experience with a Savage other than holding them and dry firing in a gun store so I can not really speak about their accuracy. However, I feel sub .5 moa is tough to beat for an out of the box remington. However, I feel the results I've had are not typical. I may have just gotten lucky.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Read reviews on both. Thats what I did and I chose Remington. Way more aftermarket parts and gret out of the box precision </div></div>
Really?
1. The "great out of the box precision" is arguably in favor of the Savage.
2. The aftermarket used to favor Remington exclusively, but the market for savage accessories has decidedly increased over the past couple of years. DBMs used to be out of the question, along with aftermarket stocks, bolt work, triggers, barrels, and the like. Now you have a ton of options.
Stocks - HS Precision, Manners, McMillan, etc. Accuracy International is even coming out with a chassis system for savage.
DBM - CDI precision, AICS
Bolt work, Barrels, and Triggers - Tons of options...just look for them.
Lately, Savage has been one of the few manufacturers really listening to the wants and needs of the shooting population and it is reflected in their offerings.
Just so you understand I am completely unbiased here...I own neither as of this second. I owned a Savage 10fp when the accu-trigger first hit the market. I sold it and purchased a Remington 700P because of the hype about the aftermarket and accuracy. At that time (about 6 years ago) Remington held a large advantage in the aftermarket. That is not true today...and my Remington shot decidedly worse than the savage straight out of the box.
I now own a Sako TRG-22 and couldn't be happier. If I were able to take back one of those previous rifles it would be the Savage.
They will both shoot well, but may need work to get it there. they can both be built into rifles of equal quality and accessories. I will echo the advice above and tell you the 308 will do most everything the 7 Mag will with the exception of taking serious big game. Your wallet will also thank you.
Josh </div></div>
I just purchased a sps varmint. Shoots sub .5 moa in its AICS. I was deadset on an AICS so that put Savage out of the loop immediately for me. Also, every gunsmith around me is familiar with the 700 action. Not so much with the Savage. I hate the AccuTrigger, but thats just my opinion. A lot of ppl write about how they hate the X-mark pro, but for a stock trigger I couldnt not ask for anything more. Mine breaks clean at around 2.5 lbs. I honestly think the only problem with a remington rifle is the stock. They are pieces of shit, at least for the cheaper models. Once thats replaced they shoot awesome (at least for me).
None of this is to say a Savage will not work for you. If you like the Accutrigger and have had good experiences with Savage then by all means recommend them. I have no experience with a Savage other than holding them and dry firing in a gun store so I can not really speak about their accuracy. However, I feel sub .5 moa is tough to beat for an out of the box remington. However, I feel the results I've had are not typical. I may have just gotten lucky.
Re: Savage or Remi?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alderleet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Howa</div></div>
Beat me to it...
I too have read countless posts on the Savage vs. Remington debate, and what I ended up getting is a Howa heavy barreled action.
In a process of building it up now; first stop is Mark at Short Action Customs.
By the way, I originally chose Savage when my choices were Savage or Rem.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alderleet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Howa</div></div>
Beat me to it...
I too have read countless posts on the Savage vs. Remington debate, and what I ended up getting is a Howa heavy barreled action.
By the way, I originally chose Savage when my choices were Savage or Rem.
Re: Savage or Remi?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I just purchased a sps varmint. Shoots sub .5 moa in its AICS. I was deadset on an AICS so that put Savage out of the loop immediately for me. Also, every gunsmith around me is familiar with the 700 action. Not so much with the Savage. I hate the AccuTrigger, but thats just my opinion. A lot of ppl write about how they hate the X-mark pro, but for a stock trigger I couldnt not ask for anything more. Mine breaks clean at around 2.5 lbs. I honestly think the only problem with a remington rifle is the stock. They are pieces of shit, at least for the cheaper models. Once thats replaced they shoot awesome (at least for me).
None of this is to say a Savage will not work for you. If you like the Accutrigger and have had good experiences with Savage then by all means recommend them. I have no experience with a Savage other than holding them and dry firing in a gun store so I can not really speak about their accuracy. However, I feel sub .5 moa is tough to beat for an out of the box remington. However, I feel the results I've had are not typical. I may have just gotten lucky. </div></div>
According to Stacey at AINA AI will be releasing their chassis systems for the SA Savages in the third quarter of this year. I liked the Accutrigger but I thought I could do better and ordered a Rifle Basix trigger for my Savage and love it. There is tons of aftermarket support for the Savages nowdays including NF scope bases and several businesses make bottom metal that use the AI magazines. You can order a Savage from the factory in a McMillan, Choate or HS stock and I wouldn't be surprised if they offer one with the AI chassis (I hope) when it hits the street soon. Not every gunsmith is familiar with accurizing Savages but I wouldn't trust very many with a Remmington, there are plenty of very good smiths who specialize in Savages. The most beautiful thing for me is I am a barrel, barrel nut wrench and headspace gauge away from a different caliber rifle.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I just purchased a sps varmint. Shoots sub .5 moa in its AICS. I was deadset on an AICS so that put Savage out of the loop immediately for me. Also, every gunsmith around me is familiar with the 700 action. Not so much with the Savage. I hate the AccuTrigger, but thats just my opinion. A lot of ppl write about how they hate the X-mark pro, but for a stock trigger I couldnt not ask for anything more. Mine breaks clean at around 2.5 lbs. I honestly think the only problem with a remington rifle is the stock. They are pieces of shit, at least for the cheaper models. Once thats replaced they shoot awesome (at least for me).
None of this is to say a Savage will not work for you. If you like the Accutrigger and have had good experiences with Savage then by all means recommend them. I have no experience with a Savage other than holding them and dry firing in a gun store so I can not really speak about their accuracy. However, I feel sub .5 moa is tough to beat for an out of the box remington. However, I feel the results I've had are not typical. I may have just gotten lucky. </div></div>
According to Stacey at AINA AI will be releasing their chassis systems for the SA Savages in the third quarter of this year. I liked the Accutrigger but I thought I could do better and ordered a Rifle Basix trigger for my Savage and love it. There is tons of aftermarket support for the Savages nowdays including NF scope bases and several businesses make bottom metal that use the AI magazines. You can order a Savage from the factory in a McMillan, Choate or HS stock and I wouldn't be surprised if they offer one with the AI chassis (I hope) when it hits the street soon. Not every gunsmith is familiar with accurizing Savages but I wouldn't trust very many with a Remmington, there are plenty of very good smiths who specialize in Savages. The most beautiful thing for me is I am a barrel, barrel nut wrench and headspace gauge away from a different caliber rifle.
Re: Savage or Remi?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just purchased a sps varmint. Shoots sub .5 moa in its AICS. I was deadset on an AICS so that put Savage out of the loop immediately for me.</div></div>
Reading comprehension man. I quote myself...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Stocks - HS Precision, Manners, McMillan, etc. Accuracy International is even coming out with a chassis system for savage.
</div></div>
They are both good rifles. Flip a coin...and then buy a TRG
Josh
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just purchased a sps varmint. Shoots sub .5 moa in its AICS. I was deadset on an AICS so that put Savage out of the loop immediately for me.</div></div>
Reading comprehension man. I quote myself...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Stocks - HS Precision, Manners, McMillan, etc. Accuracy International is even coming out with a chassis system for savage.
</div></div>
They are both good rifles. Flip a coin...and then buy a TRG
Josh
Re: Savage or Remi?
My Savage Action is smoother than the one on my last Remington.
The Remington is a shooter, but the cam on the bolt shroud looked like it was chewed out by a beaver.
I don't have any issues with the AccuTrigger either, but it certainly isn't a Benchrest piece.
If you want to just punch paper, get a 223 in whatever make fits your budget. My 10PC will put some factory stuff into one hole at 100 yrds.
My Savage Action is smoother than the one on my last Remington.
The Remington is a shooter, but the cam on the bolt shroud looked like it was chewed out by a beaver.
I don't have any issues with the AccuTrigger either, but it certainly isn't a Benchrest piece.
If you want to just punch paper, get a 223 in whatever make fits your budget. My 10PC will put some factory stuff into one hole at 100 yrds.
Re: Savage or Remi?
This comes up often and I could get very long winded on the subject. I am a Remington guy and will always have at least one 700. That being said you have to respect the fact that you can rebarrel your own Savage with premium stuff if you want. Stocks and detachable mags are available now. If Savage had not changed their action sizes recently, you might see a lot more after market stuff for them.
The answer to this question has always been how far are you going? If you're going to be serious and spend some bucks, get the Remington action. That's what smiths know how to work on. If you're just going to dabble and aren't sure, buy the Savage. Spend your money on a scope, look what resales for more used if you decide you want out. And if you stay in with whatever you buy, you're ahead of the game. Good glass, learn to reload, shoot the shit out of whatever you buy.
This comes up often and I could get very long winded on the subject. I am a Remington guy and will always have at least one 700. That being said you have to respect the fact that you can rebarrel your own Savage with premium stuff if you want. Stocks and detachable mags are available now. If Savage had not changed their action sizes recently, you might see a lot more after market stuff for them.
The answer to this question has always been how far are you going? If you're going to be serious and spend some bucks, get the Remington action. That's what smiths know how to work on. If you're just going to dabble and aren't sure, buy the Savage. Spend your money on a scope, look what resales for more used if you decide you want out. And if you stay in with whatever you buy, you're ahead of the game. Good glass, learn to reload, shoot the shit out of whatever you buy.
Re: Savage or Remi?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 7mmRM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Id go Rem 700 every time.
Things I dont like about the Savage-
The saftey sucks.
Accutrigger sucks.
Insanely heavy boltlift sucks.
Gritty feel when cycling the bolt sucks. </div></div>
you can search my posts for a fix to all of these issues except the safety. it works, thats all i know. but on the model 10s, the trigger can go to 1.5 pounds. mine feels good, really i would have to do a side by side to have an opinion on them all.
but the bolt lift can be made to feel easier, but its cocking the firing pin so its hard to lessen the force it takes to do that.
and i will agree with the gritty. mine was filthy. i had to scrub it out and relube it, but then it was fine. id buy a remmy too. i have no preference really, i just bought a savage for the reasons others stated. rebarreling, accuracy, it came factory in an HS stock.
also this, all the old guys i asked said remmy, all the younger guys said savage except one.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 7mmRM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Id go Rem 700 every time.
Things I dont like about the Savage-
The saftey sucks.
Accutrigger sucks.
Insanely heavy boltlift sucks.
Gritty feel when cycling the bolt sucks. </div></div>
you can search my posts for a fix to all of these issues except the safety. it works, thats all i know. but on the model 10s, the trigger can go to 1.5 pounds. mine feels good, really i would have to do a side by side to have an opinion on them all.
but the bolt lift can be made to feel easier, but its cocking the firing pin so its hard to lessen the force it takes to do that.
and i will agree with the gritty. mine was filthy. i had to scrub it out and relube it, but then it was fine. id buy a remmy too. i have no preference really, i just bought a savage for the reasons others stated. rebarreling, accuracy, it came factory in an HS stock.
also this, all the old guys i asked said remmy, all the younger guys said savage except one.
Re: Savage or Remi?
well I went with the savage..it was the display model so they knocked off 10%..then the kid messed up my paperwork so they knocked off ANOTHER 10..with a total of 140$ bucks off it was a great score!..got it for 560$...its a savage model 10fcp with a 22" heavy fluted barrel and desert tan stock..appearently this is a model made only for Dick's sporting goods at least that's what the guy said..I can't find any info on the twist rate tho..
well I went with the savage..it was the display model so they knocked off 10%..then the kid messed up my paperwork so they knocked off ANOTHER 10..with a total of 140$ bucks off it was a great score!..got it for 560$...its a savage model 10fcp with a 22" heavy fluted barrel and desert tan stock..appearently this is a model made only for Dick's sporting goods at least that's what the guy said..I can't find any info on the twist rate tho..
Re: Savage or Remi?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just purchased a sps varmint. Shoots sub .5 moa in its AICS. I was deadset on an AICS so that put Savage out of the loop immediately for me.</div></div>
Reading comprehension man. I quote myself...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Stocks - HS Precision, Manners, McMillan, etc. Accuracy International is even coming out with a chassis system for savage.
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They are both good rifles. Flip a coin...and then buy a TRG
Josh </div></div>
I understand AI is coming out with a chassis for Savage. However, I was not willing to wait another year to buy a rifle...
I was just offering my opinion. There is no right or wrong answer here, just personal preference backed up by your personal experiences. I'm sure Savages are great rifles, but for me I'd have to have a bad experience with a Remington rifle before I move to another action platform.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just purchased a sps varmint. Shoots sub .5 moa in its AICS. I was deadset on an AICS so that put Savage out of the loop immediately for me.</div></div>
Reading comprehension man. I quote myself...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Stocks - HS Precision, Manners, McMillan, etc. Accuracy International is even coming out with a chassis system for savage.
</div></div>
They are both good rifles. Flip a coin...and then buy a TRG
Josh </div></div>
I understand AI is coming out with a chassis for Savage. However, I was not willing to wait another year to buy a rifle...
I was just offering my opinion. There is no right or wrong answer here, just personal preference backed up by your personal experiences. I'm sure Savages are great rifles, but for me I'd have to have a bad experience with a Remington rifle before I move to another action platform.
Re: Savage or Remi?
my 2 cents would be if you plan to leave the rifle stock go savage.
if you plan on upgrading go remington
my 2 cents would be if you plan to leave the rifle stock go savage.
if you plan on upgrading go remington
Re: Savage or Remi?
Savage is good out of the box. I got the FLCP-K (lefty version of the FCP). I was going toward the Rem 700 SPS Varmint in Lefty (incase you didnt notice already... i'm a southpaw).
Both the same price. However there were a few issues that made me choose the Savage.
1: Trigger is user adjustable
2: Comes standard with DBM, remmy you need to get one installed.
3: Comes with Accustock, which is a fairly decent plastic.
4: Build Quality is supposedly better than the Remmy
5: Home tinkering with the rifle is alot easier.
Not to bash Remmy, I've never owned one, nor have i even recieved my Savage. However, i'm simply commenting on the features that made me pick the Savage over the Remmy. Purely from advice on this Website.
Being a Lefty though, my choice was limited. If i had it my way the Savage 10 Precision Carbine would be the main choice, but alas no lefty version.
Savage is good out of the box. I got the FLCP-K (lefty version of the FCP). I was going toward the Rem 700 SPS Varmint in Lefty (incase you didnt notice already... i'm a southpaw).
Both the same price. However there were a few issues that made me choose the Savage.
1: Trigger is user adjustable
2: Comes standard with DBM, remmy you need to get one installed.
3: Comes with Accustock, which is a fairly decent plastic.
4: Build Quality is supposedly better than the Remmy
5: Home tinkering with the rifle is alot easier.
Not to bash Remmy, I've never owned one, nor have i even recieved my Savage. However, i'm simply commenting on the features that made me pick the Savage over the Remmy. Purely from advice on this Website.
Being a Lefty though, my choice was limited. If i had it my way the Savage 10 Precision Carbine would be the main choice, but alas no lefty version.
Re: Savage or Remi?
there probably is not much between the two, but as others have said if your a remy person you will say remy is best. iv always had and probably allways will have remy in my safe.there is a lot of people getting poorly shooting remys recently and i read lots of people saying they are less than satisfied with remys customer service, that said i have yet to get a remy that shot poorly.try both if you can, go for 308, buy whichever feels better , put the best glass you can afford on it and shoot the barrel out. my 2 cents
there probably is not much between the two, but as others have said if your a remy person you will say remy is best. iv always had and probably allways will have remy in my safe.there is a lot of people getting poorly shooting remys recently and i read lots of people saying they are less than satisfied with remys customer service, that said i have yet to get a remy that shot poorly.try both if you can, go for 308, buy whichever feels better , put the best glass you can afford on it and shoot the barrel out. my 2 cents
Re: Savage or Remi?
Mongoose has it about right.
Ford V Holden, about the same and you wont be displeased by both, but if it's your first rifle and you dont want to upgrade parts, the Sav will do you better.
If however, you DO want to upgrade. the Remmy is the way to go.
Mongoose has it about right.
Ford V Holden, about the same and you wont be displeased by both, but if it's your first rifle and you dont want to upgrade parts, the Sav will do you better.
If however, you DO want to upgrade. the Remmy is the way to go.
Re: Savage or Remi?
For defeating the wily paperbeast, Magnums are, forgive the pun, overkill.
If you want a flat shooting chambering for a short action, and have no qualms about handloading for target accuracy; I'd go with a Savage, and get a decent aftermarket barrel in .260 Rem. While not plentiful, factory hunting loads are highly adequate, and I've never seen a Hornady Custom load disappoint me. The .473" bolt face also supports a lot of other chamberings in a switch barrel configuration, which is my main reason for suggesting Savage.
Long actions, same bolt face, anything on the .30'-06 parent case. For LR target, I see the .280 Rem as being a most efficient useage of the case capacity, the .30-'06 as more than enough terminal power for most game, and the .35 Whelen for the ones where it might be thought to come up short.
Greg
For defeating the wily paperbeast, Magnums are, forgive the pun, overkill.
If you want a flat shooting chambering for a short action, and have no qualms about handloading for target accuracy; I'd go with a Savage, and get a decent aftermarket barrel in .260 Rem. While not plentiful, factory hunting loads are highly adequate, and I've never seen a Hornady Custom load disappoint me. The .473" bolt face also supports a lot of other chamberings in a switch barrel configuration, which is my main reason for suggesting Savage.
Long actions, same bolt face, anything on the .30'-06 parent case. For LR target, I see the .280 Rem as being a most efficient useage of the case capacity, the .30-'06 as more than enough terminal power for most game, and the .35 Whelen for the ones where it might be thought to come up short.
Greg
Re: Savage or Remi?
well now that iv got it..the next question the proper scope..ill be shooting out to 550yds and I kinda don't wanna spend more than like 300$..any decent recomendations?
well now that iv got it..the next question the proper scope..ill be shooting out to 550yds and I kinda don't wanna spend more than like 300$..any decent recomendations?
Re: Savage or Remi?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Staghead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well now that iv got it..the next question the proper scope..ill be shooting out to 550yds and I kinda don't wanna spend more than like 300$..any decent recomendations? </div></div>
Walmart sells Leupold 3-9x scopes for $200 in my area, go buy one and send it back to Leupy to install a Mil reticle (last I heard around $100) and as money comes in switch out the elevation and windage screws for turrets.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Staghead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well now that iv got it..the next question the proper scope..ill be shooting out to 550yds and I kinda don't wanna spend more than like 300$..any decent recomendations? </div></div>
Walmart sells Leupold 3-9x scopes for $200 in my area, go buy one and send it back to Leupy to install a Mil reticle (last I heard around $100) and as money comes in switch out the elevation and windage screws for turrets.
Re: Savage or Remi?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hiddenmongoose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">try both if you can, go for 308, buy whichever feels better , put the best glass you can afford on it <span style="font-weight: bold">and shoot the barrel out</span>. my 2 cents </div></div>
best advice yet.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hiddenmongoose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">try both if you can, go for 308, buy whichever feels better , put the best glass you can afford on it <span style="font-weight: bold">and shoot the barrel out</span>. my 2 cents </div></div>
best advice yet.
Re: Savage or Remi?
i recommend saving more money....
but if you have to buy cheap scope (i was there not long ago myself) look into the WOTAC Gen5. not many folks here on the hide say to go with it...but there's another forum that starts with sniper...and those folks love them and have some reviews. My best friend bought one and it's a great scope for the money. I looked around and ended up with a Mueller APT (30mm, 1 piece tube, mildot, target turrets) and couldn't be happier...for the money spent. If you want to get a FFP you can look into the SWFA 3-9x40 or the Falcon Menace (it's right under $500 though)
i recommend saving more money....
but if you have to buy cheap scope (i was there not long ago myself) look into the WOTAC Gen5. not many folks here on the hide say to go with it...but there's another forum that starts with sniper...and those folks love them and have some reviews. My best friend bought one and it's a great scope for the money. I looked around and ended up with a Mueller APT (30mm, 1 piece tube, mildot, target turrets) and couldn't be happier...for the money spent. If you want to get a FFP you can look into the SWFA 3-9x40 or the Falcon Menace (it's right under $500 though)
Re: Savage or Remi?
The nikon is a 1" tube which will inhibit your elevation adjustments. Check out the review on the WOTAC gen 5 under bolt guns if ur interested
The nikon is a 1" tube which will inhibit your elevation adjustments. Check out the review on the WOTAC gen 5 under bolt guns if ur interested
Re: Savage or Remi?
just on terms of feeding it, the .308 will be much easier on your pocket book. I like the remington myself, my brother likes the savage...ill shoot either, but i dont like the accu-trigger. i like my jewell in my remmie
just on terms of feeding it, the .308 will be much easier on your pocket book. I like the remington myself, my brother likes the savage...ill shoot either, but i dont like the accu-trigger. i like my jewell in my remmie
Re: Savage or Remi?
after the first one being broke, i didnt think id say this but for $0-$300 i gotta say i really like my trs-1 mil/mil millett. i think the mil/mils are better and dont have the issues the earlier stuff did. 25.6 mils elevation. i dig it for the money and its got a bushnell lifetime warranty
i think $300 is a decent amount for a scope to use while you save for a $1300 used NF here
after the first one being broke, i didnt think id say this but for $0-$300 i gotta say i really like my trs-1 mil/mil millett. i think the mil/mils are better and dont have the issues the earlier stuff did. 25.6 mils elevation. i dig it for the money and its got a bushnell lifetime warranty
i think $300 is a decent amount for a scope to use while you save for a $1300 used NF here
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