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I'm pretty basic, but I'd (still) like to see a couple adjustable stock/chassis options for 10/22s. Thought the pending Bravo might kickstart some of that over the past year.
Rifle Scopes SHOT Show 2021 Rumor Mill and What's Coming
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I just want a capped 1-8 NX8 available to the public with the ATACR 1-8 reticle.
Any word? I really don't want to get the nx8 2.5-20 but I'm getting pretty tired of waiting around for some pie in the sky
Lightweight hunter we’re asking for, FFP, locking turrets, around $700-$800. The Primary Arms GLx 2-10x44 seems like the ticket, but only gets thrown in the SPR conversation. I’m not familiar with the reticle but that’s the only negative I can see for hunting.
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I'd take an Accupoint Triangle with some BDC/windage hashes while we're talking reticles.
When can you let the cat out of the bag, possibly early 2021? If no cat, then maybe you can give a dog a bone
Literally a single actual lightweight (550-600gm) 2 or 3x to 12 or 15x 40-45mm FFP 30mm tube scope with half decent quality/reticle/etc on the market would be nice as a hunter that wants FFP and decent quality/features
Leupold almost got there with the Mark 6 3-18x44 but it was plagued with issues early on that kept it from being more popular, now they seem dedicated to the Mark 5 which is a bit heavier and has the odd 35mm tube. Bushnell says they have something that we should be excited about as a replacement for the LRHS/LRTS scopes, so I'm hoping for something in the 5x erector range, maybe a 2.6-13x44 and a 4-20x44 or better yet a 4-20x50 all kept well under 30oz
Something to compete with the TT 3-15 M and H series, but lighter and cheaper. Glass quality will obviously have to be sacrificed but that’s tolerable to a point.
I would love to see something compete with the TT315M "Light Tactical" and would love to see ZCO come out with a "Light Tactical" version of their 4-20, but doubt that's on their radar right now as their specialty is long range scopes with large 36mm tubes and just don't see "light" and "ZCO" marrying anytime soon
So that leaves the door open for someone like Vortex with their AMG line or of course Bushnell to come in with something that punches above its class like the LRHS/LRTS series did. Bushnell has a history of working with LOW on some of their Elite Tactical scopes, some of the latest LOW designs have been pretty impressive so hoping Bushnell can put out a new scope right around the $1k point. Would also love to see a new iteration of the G2H reticle with the circle of death, a G4H with .2 mil spacing with tree dots and circle of death would certainly have my interest for a crossover long range/hunting optic.
Bushnell take note, that’s the perfect outline of what the LRHS replacement should look like.
30mm definitely preferable for me too, far more ring options available.
A 4-20x44/50 LRHS with a good reticle and less rubbish FOV would be about perfect.
Or Leupold could rethink their stupid 4-20 VX5.
Chevron with mil or moa horizontal and vertical hash marks, And a quick ranging feature like the MSR at the bottom.
I am impatiently waiting on the new Bushnell line, Leupold reticles for 3-18 and new Athlon Cronus 3-18 ish. Athlon and Bushnell need to spill the beans on what's coming.
Athlon announcements didn't include a Cronus 3-18, but if they keep the weight down that could be the first Athlon to really interest me. Hoping the Bushnell LRHS/LRTS replacement announcement comes by January (what would have been SHOT Show had our country not gone insane about COVID). Honestly, if Bushnell is working with LOW on this one (like they did with the original series) this has me really curious, but while I love my 4.5-18x44, I do wish for at least 50mm objective for better low light situations.
Im struggling not snagging the LRTS on Cameraland vs waiting for the new Bushnell reticle and designs.
With all the uncertainty with when they will actually get the designs out.
And such a bargain....
With all the uncertainty with when they will actually get the designs out.
And such a bargain....
I think one thing is pretty certain, the new LRTS will NOT sell for $750, if it's close to $1000 I'd be pleasantly surprised but my gut tells me it's probably going to be closer to $1500. Bushnell is probably looking to compete with Burris XTR III, Leupold Mark 5 and NF NX8...
I say this to say that if the LRTS 4.5-18x44 checks the boxes of what you're looking for, it is a fantastic scope and at $750 almost too good to pass up.
Never was a big fan of the circle myself. Would rather it be a G2 with the post coming in closer to the center so you could bracket with them for close range low light conditions yet not interfere with windage holds like the G2H did. I actually prefer the G3i reticle over the G2H, not because its illuminated, but because they made it thicker to accommodate the illumination.
John
@wjm308 - I would really love 0.2 wind holds out to 1 or 2 on just the horizontal stadia (mostly cause I dont do as well as I would like holding with .5, YET).
I will say this. It will work for now, especially not knowing when stuff will be released, let along come to market and be available. I do qualify for their bargain program direct from Bushnell, but again, no idea when the availability hits.
Also, I was looking at either the DMR Pro or the XRS mag range with an updated G3, so maybe even north of $1500....
I think you just helped convince me of what I need to do. At least for now.
I will say this. It will work for now, especially not knowing when stuff will be released, let along come to market and be available. I do qualify for their bargain program direct from Bushnell, but again, no idea when the availability hits.
Also, I was looking at either the DMR Pro or the XRS mag range with an updated G3, so maybe even north of $1500....
I think you just helped convince me of what I need to do. At least for now.
They are awesome for what they are. I just wish there was something similar specs with better eye box and glass (not that the glass is bad, but I want alpha glass for my hunting guns). I run 3 of them right now and would like to upgrade them to something in the near future. AMG is only logical step right now. Maybe a Minox 3-15 with MR4.
A 4-20 AMG would be titties.
Curious if the new Vortex NGSW-FC 1-8x30 may make it to the civilian market in 2021 (okay, so I'm sure it's still in trials with military, but this old man can dream can't he)
www.thefirearmblog.com
Vortex Awarded OTA for the US Army's Next Generation Squad Weapon Fire Control Prototype Program
Despite the Coronavirus pandemic the US Army continues its Next Generation Squad Weapon program and has issued an OTA (or Other Transaction Authority) award to Wisconsin-based Vortex soliciting them to produce a prototype Next Generation Squad Weapon-Fire Control (NGSW-FC).
www.thefirearmblog.com
I want it but it looks very expensive.Curious if the new Vortex NGSW-FC 1-8x30 may make it to the civilian market in 2021 (okay, so I'm sure it's still in trials with military, but this old man can dream can't he)
Vortex Awarded OTA for the US Army's Next Generation Squad Weapon Fire Control Prototype Program
Despite the Coronavirus pandemic the US Army continues its Next Generation Squad Weapon program and has issued an OTA (or Other Transaction Authority) award to Wisconsin-based Vortex soliciting them to produce a prototype Next Generation Squad Weapon-Fire Control (NGSW-FC).
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Have you seen it in person? @jwknutson17 just ordered one, next time we shoot together I'll try to remember to see how the dot looks at distance, or he can chime in here and let you know his thoughts once he gets a little time behind it.
New Bushnell Elite LRHS2 has shown up, not quite what I hoped it would be (essentially an upgraded LRHS with ED Prime glass and G3H reticle with locking windage but same specs otherwise it would appear) but something of interest nonetheless.
www.snipershide.com
Rifle Scopes - New Bushnell Elite LRHS2
Buddy of mine sent me this that George posted. I’m eager to see it. ED Prime glass, under $1000, Mil/Mil FFP, locking windage, unknown on the G2H reticle and mag ranges. I’m really hoping the mag range has been changed and moved to a 5x erector. But it looks promising. As much as i like dads v6...
www.snipershide.com
New Bushnell Elite LRHS2 has shown up, not quite what I hoped it would be (essentially an upgraded LRHS with ED Prime glass and G3H reticle with locking windage but same specs otherwise it would appear) but something of interest nonetheless.
Rifle Scopes - New Bushnell Elite LRHS2
Buddy of mine sent me this that George posted. I’m eager to see it. ED Prime glass, under $1000, Mil/Mil FFP, locking windage, unknown on the G2H reticle and mag ranges. I’m really hoping the mag range has been changed and moved to a 5x erector. But it looks promising. As much as i like dads v6...
Was a bit disappointed in the reticle description as well. Noticed G3H vs previous G2H. So I’m guessing a G3 with the donut? I did read it is still a 4-18 though. As my eyes get older they seem to appreciate more Xs.
John
Some of my predictions are coming true:
- Leupold came out with a better reticle - PR2
- Bushnell has an updated LRHS
- Now if Burris would finally release illumination for the XTR III (I would buy another 3.3-18 in a heartbeat, but not without illumination)
- A new Vortex AMG possibly...
Sounds like the glass is improved but otherwise the optical system is the same, still 4.5-18 and below average FOV, unfortunately.
Burris XTR3 illumination is due in 2021, so could still be 12 months away.....
Looks like Midway has spilled the beans on a new Leupold Mark 3HD, not the most exciting news but it's something.
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Leupold: let’s come out with a budget line of tactical scopes to be competitive with vortex and bushnell
Also leupold: let’s put a basic mil hash reticle in it and a 3x mag range
Also leupold: let’s put a basic mil hash reticle in it and a 3x mag range
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I have a pre-release beta-test sample. I can see field mice eating crickets at 500 meters in pitch black!
You’ll no longer need to be a jealous poor who pines for PVS-31A’s like a half-emasculated Beto voter. Your wife and kids will finally look up to you. You’ll be the protector and provider your family has wanted all these years.
No, it won’t make you look like the Adonis in these photos. NODs can only do so much.
I will be the sole distributor. Taking up to 1000 preorders now. Send blank postal money orders to...
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