Shots Fired At President Trump's Butler PA Rally!

[terrygood]

@terrygood Fox video says eight casings,

Bodycam footage takes viewers to Pennsylvania rooftop moments after Trump assassination attempt

Bodycam footage released by Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley shows the moments emergency services responded to the AGR rooftop where Thomas Crooks shot at former President Trump.

www.foxnews.com

Did you watch video?

He says 5 not 8

First 3 shots were not from Crooks???

 

[terrygood]

so there was a 2 man sniper team. Greg and ?

Is Greg a democrat?

Greg took photo of Crooks rt before he shot?? Does anyone have that photo?

 

[doubloon]

5 shell casings????

This is nuts

4:50 in video

"5 right there"

NOT ONLY FIVE TOTAL

 

[doubloon]

Did you watch video?

He says 5 not 8

First 3 shots were not from Crooks???

In the video posted on the Fox news site the agent clearly counts 8 casings and the closed caption on the screen clearly says 8 casings.

"Looks like what at least eight? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven eight. At least eight?"

 

[terrygood]

Is that dubbed? I want to belive, but im not sure.

 

[doubloon]

Is that dubbed? I want to belive, but im not sure.

Yes it's not just dubbed it's a completely manufactured AI video created by the same team that created the Biden speech video earlier.

You can tell it was the same people because you can see what looks like a reflection of the rifle from the roof on the surface of the Resolute Desk.

Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things that a man needs to believe in the most.

 

[Makinchips208]

Is that dubbed? I want to belive, but im not sure.

Count ‘em.

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Sounds like 3 shots then a pause, then 5 or more shots, then ten seconds later the last shot.

 

[terrygood]

I dont see a editted video here?

Fox video is completly edited? Came out after the original?

 

[doubloon]

Count ‘em.

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"He's right there. He's laying down."

Yep, got tired, taking a long long nap.

 

[terrygood]

Maybe your correct and Crooks was a lone gunman?

I just dont buy it.

Im still in disbelief that this Trump assasination even happened?

 

[doubloon]

Preliminary Findings Continued:Eight Shell Casings Found Near Crooks’ Body According to First-Hand InformationObtained by Senator Ron Johnson’s Office

https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/services/files/081933E3-0688-4BA8-B3C5-8417716FF520

 

[Makinchips208]

I dont see a editted video here?

Fox video is completly edited?

Here is the release from Mr Grassley himself. Demand is too high so I couldn’t get it to play. Maybe try again tomorrow?

Grassley Releases Newly-Obtained Video, Records in Aftermath of Trump Assassination Attempt | U.S. Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa

WASHINGTON – Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) today released bodycam footage of local law enforcement...

www.grassley.senate.gov

 

[jakelly]

Ive alrrady been clear.
Two shooters equals dead 45.
Yes, there were handlers.
PLenty of incompetance as well.
So....yeah....
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I meant Occam’s and Hanlon’s not Bic and Gillette. Might have missed the pun, but if you actually believe the one lone shooter, we goofed up, our guys are the good guys and we’re investigating it trope, that’s not surprising.

The ever changing details alone should be evidence enough to prove they are covering something. If not the involvement of shadow elements, then what pray tell? They’re literally writing their cover up story in real time.

 

[terrygood]

Dam why didnt they just show this video at the hearings???

If Crooks acted alone Trump is screwed.

A 20 year old with no training carried out a perfect assasination. Just a turn of the head changed everything.

Could we just be looking at the after affects of "woke" leadership??

 

[37L1]

Dam why didnt they just show this video at the hearings???

If Crooks acted alone Trump is screwed.

A 20 year old with no training carried out a perfect assasination. Just a turn of the head changed everything.

Could we just be looking at the after affects of "woke" leadership??

 

[FourT6and2]

the whole video??

1. It's now clear that the big (red) ladder everyone has been talking about was brought in by law enforcement after the shooting, to access the roof. While they're all waiting inside the lobby of that building you can hear them talking about how the ladder is "en route" so they can get up there. Mystery solved. If you go frame by frame at 3:28, you can see just behind the tree blocking view of the small "corridor" where the large ladder is seen in photos and that ladder is not yet there.

2. You can see the other, shorter ladder already in place at 3:22. This is the one Crooks' probably brought.

3. At 4:43 (and later in the vid) you can see how CS1 team's view (behind and camera left of Trump) of Crooks was obscured by the large tree. Even taking into account Crooks' body possibly being moved. But if this body cam footage we're watching is of the first people to get up on that roof, then where his body is at this point is where he died. And based on the blood trail, I don't think he was moved laterally from where he was shot. Maybe dragged slightly down-slope so people on the ground wouldn't see the body (if at all).

4. Water tower's line of sight to Trump was also most likely obscured by those trees.

 

[chillywig]

Still can't make out the optic

 

[FourT6and2]

Still can't make out the optic

Reflex RDS of some sort. I can make out a solar panel that is inside the housing (not on top of the sun shield), so we can narrow it down a little at least. My best guess based on size and location of solar panel is the Holosun HS510C.

 

[theLBC]

 

[theLBC]

 

[dino67]

Did you watch video?

He says 5 not 8

First 3 shots were not from Crooks???

I have trouble finding all my brass shooting on open expanses of concrete lol

 

[nockhunter]

 

[LawnMM]

What is this shit about a Zipline sniper from the water tower? Was 007 there?

 

[doubloon]

What is this shit about a Zipline sniper from the water tower? Was 007 there?

I heard it was a wing suit.

 

[Fx51LP308]

What is this shit about a Zipline sniper from the water tower? Was 007 there?

Hell, he could have brought HRM QEII with him in that case!

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

the whole video??

This video shows the big flag hanging from the cranes blowing at a full wind. It also shreds the idea that one cop boosted another up to peek on the roof and crooks pointing his rifle at him. Unless the two cops involved were cheerleaders you are not boosting someone to the roof height.

 

[LawnMM]

Y'all are laughing and some 'respected' twitter guy was posted in this thread a ways back talking about phone data (how that gets you to a Zipline?!) that they got which was some feebs phone

So the feeb was the tower sniper and he ziplined down and jumped in some van

 

[terrygood]

Crooks was shot at 18:11 and the video starts at 18:27. 16 minutes crooks daed body was exposed. Obviously swat was up there rt after Crooks was killed. My local swat guys would be up there asap. Probably taking selfies??

Today Im definatly leaning back to lone gun man

 

[Mike Casselton]

It was Professor Penelope, in the penthouse with the pen.

Case closed.

 

[terrygood]

LOL i have no life!!

 

[terrygood]

Why did Greg and his spoter split up?

They literaly just had to go down the hallway out the window that was open go onto roof and secure crooks body. Then place there 3 spent shell casings next to the body.

I have a house full of in-laws and everyone is fighting??? Like its only 9am. Half of them owe me money.

 

[theLBC]

imagine if all we had was main stream news...we would only know that the fbi isn't sure trump was shot.

Former Obama Official, CNN Analyst Suggests Burden on Donald Trump to Prove He Was Struck By Bullet | The Gateway Pundit | by Ben Kew

"I've waited a while to say this but the burden is now on Trump to show he was shot," Kayyem wrote on the X platform.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[theLBC]

 

[Terry Cross]

Why did Greg and his spoter split up?

Where does it infer that Greg was one of the local CS?

 

[alfack]

So, the underling, who was calling the shots on the detail, is now the head of secret service, after Cheatle resigned. How does that work? Our country is fucked.

 

[sierracharlie338]

I heard it was a wing suit.

A super secret flying squirrel!?

 

[doubloon]

LOL i have no life!!

"flight restriction" they put a flight restriction in place to stop drone flights

I wonder why this didn't work when it works so well everywhere else ... no parking signs, gun free zones, no smoking signs ...

 

[terrygood]

Where does it infer that Greg was one of the local CS?

In the body cam footage?

Doesnt the guy refer to the sniper team in the second window on the second floor as "greg"?

 

[dankcincy]

I find it interesting that Wray very specifically says "Cartridges".
Not shell casings, not brass, not spent shells....but "Cartridges".
Now being under oath, he is very aware of the wording he uses. Using cartridges instead of something else is very telling imo.

 

[FourT6and2]

I find it interesting that Wray very specifically says "Cartridges".
Not shell casings, not brass, not spent shells....but "Cartridges".
Now being under oath, he is very aware of the wording he uses. Using cartridges instead of something else is very telling imo.

What is so telling about that? I'm not following.

And how many times have we seen an official—whether FBI, LEO, military, politician, lawyer, judge—refer to something firearm related by using incorrect terminology. Wray doesn't even know the difference between FPV and live streaming. How much can we really trust his specificity when referring to the thing that gets ejected from an AR15 after it's been fired? He's probably fired an AR15 twice in his life. You think he even knows what a forward assist is? Let alone the difference between a full cartridge and a shell casing?

I looked up his record. He's a lawyer. He has no military or LE experience. He got a law degree from Yale and then served as assistant US attorney for the DOJ in Georgia, prosecuting criminal cases. Did more of that on a federal level and then found his way to the FBI. Not as an agent, but as a lawyer. His knowledge on firearms is about the same as any other jerk-off lawyer.

I stand by my previous statement: we assume people in power, in high-up positions, are experts. They are not. They are "faking it 'til they make it" just like everybody else. And the majority of people in the world are absolute morons.

 

[terrygood]

Where does it infer that Greg was one of the local CS?

time is 32 seconds into video

 

[dankcincy]

What is so telling about that? I'm not following.

And how many times have we seen an official—whether FBI, LEO, military, politician, lawyer, judge—refer to something firearm related by using incorrect terminology. Wray doesn't even know the difference between FPV and live streaming. How much can we really trust his specificity when referring to the thing that gets ejected from an AR15 after it's been fired? He's probably fired an AR15 twice in his life. You think he even knows what a forward assist is? Let alone the difference between a full cartridge and a shell casing?

He's under oath.
If he says there were X number of "shell casings" found and it later comes out that it was Y number, he has questions to answer.
If he instead says that there were 8 "cartridges" found. He can in no way be accused of lying because 8 cartridges were found, along with a bunch more.
And there's no way in hell the head of the FBI doesn't know the difference between a cartridge and an empty casing.
As for what it's telling of....he's still not willing to disclose how many shots the shooter got off for one reason or another. He either isn't exactly sure yet, is more than happy with the 8 shot narrative that is going around, or something else entirely.

 

[FourT6and2]

He's under oath.
If he says there were X number of "shell casings" found and it later comes out that it was Y number, he has questions to answer.
If he instead says that there were 8 "cartridges" found. He can in no way be accused of lying because 8 cartridges were found, along with a bunch more.
And there's no way in hell the head of the FBI doesn't know the difference between a cartridge and an empty casing.
As for what it's telling of....he's still not willing to disclose how many shots the shooter got off for one reason or another. He either isn't exactly sure yet, is more than happy with the 8 shot narrative that is going around, or something else entirely.

Ah. You're saying that by using "cartridge" instead of "case", that also includes any unfired cartridges? As in, whatever's in the box of ammo? I find that kind of ridiculous. Sure... when you get down to a game of got ya/semantics, he could play that game, but in an instance of proving perjury, I don't think that would get him that far when the spirit of the question he was asked was clearly about determining how many shots were fired by looking at how many spent shells were found. If he answers... 8 cartridges, and then later goes, "well I wasn't lying because there were 8 cartridges found... along with a box of 50 more..." that's gonna get him in hot water.

Again... he's a lawyer. He's not a gun expert. As the head of the FBI, he should know the difference between FPV and live streaming as well. And he clearly doesn't. He's a government idiot. As I said before, I don't jump immediately to conspiracy theory when it's simpler to just realize people are idiots.

 

[37L1]

He's under oath.
If he says there were X number of "shell casings" found and it later comes out that it was Y number, he has questions to answer.
If he instead says that there were 8 "cartridges" found. He can in no way be accused of lying because 8 cartridges were found, along with a bunch more.
And there's no way in hell the head of the FBI doesn't know the difference between a cartridge and an empty casing.
As for what it's telling of....he's still not willing to disclose how many shots the shooter got off for one reason or another. He either isn't exactly sure yet, is more than happy with the 8 shot narrative that is going around, or something else entirely.

Mag or clip, cases or cartridges, looking for smoke and saying fire. If there isn't a conspiracy, well golly, well make one, because everything is a conspiracy.

This fits right in with Biden is a dementia addled puppet but he planned his stolen election and all the corruption that came with it. Stupid or brilliant, can't have both. Oh, I get it, it's his "handlers". If there are two or more shooters, why isn't Trump dead? Maybe it's a fake assassination attempt to fit "their" plans? Whomever "They" are.

The depth and breadth of conspiracy theory has no limit until we are at the point where we question whether black is just white because of shadows deliberately put there by "them."

Can't believe anything anymore and now we no longer know fact from fiction.

Paper or plastic used to be an easy decision.

Where did Greg go?

 

[PolarisBreach]

He's under oath.
If he says there were X number of "shell casings" found and it later comes out that it was Y number, he has questions to answer.
If he instead says that there were 8 "cartridges" found. He can in no way be accused of lying because 8 cartridges were found, along with a bunch more.
And there's no way in hell the head of the FBI doesn't know the difference between a cartridge and an empty casing.
As for what it's telling of....he's still not willing to disclose how many shots the shooter got off for one reason or another. He either isn't exactly sure yet, is more than happy with the 8 shot narrative that is going around, or something else entirely.

When's the last time anyone was been brought up on perjury charges for lying to Congress, let alone convicted? He doesn't give a shit. He's likely parroting the information he was told, and if his source said cartridges, he's going to say cartridges. You're reading too much into it.

 

[MrSmith]

Mag or clip, cases or cartridges, looking for smoke and saying fire. If there isn't a conspiracy, well golly, well make one, because everything is a conspiracy.

This fits right in with Biden is a dementia addled puppet but he planned his stolen election and all the corruption that came with it. Stupid or brilliant, can't have both. Oh, I get it, it's his "handlers". If there are two or more shooters, why isn't Trump dead? Maybe it's a fake assassination attempt to fit "their" plans? Whomever "They" are.

The depth and breadth of conspiracy theory has no limit until we are at the point where we question whether black is just white because of shadows deliberately put there by "them."

Can't believe anything anymore and now we no longer know fact from fiction.

Paper or plastic used to be an easy decision.

Where did Greg go?

"It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is."

Thank you,
MrSmith

 

[terrygood]

That was 'click bait"

 

[theLBC]

 

[Smoketheclay]

This video shows the big flag hanging from the cranes blowing at a full wind. It also shreds the idea that one cop boosted another up to peek on the roof and crooks pointing his rifle at him. Unless the two cops involved were cheerleaders you are not boosting someone to the roof height.
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Thanks for posting, this also corroborates what @DocUSMCRetired posted about wind speed originally

 

[Bullfrog08]

99.9% chance the guy that shot Crooks in on this forum, probably reading these post and laughing his ass off.