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Shots Fired At President Trump's Butler PA Rally!
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This makes sense. It was reported that they found at least two IED type devices configured for remote det in his vehicle.
WPXI exclusive photos show cell phone, transmitter found next to Trump shooter’s body
Multiple law enforcement sources described the security operation in detail Tuesday, directly contradicting public statements from the U.S. Secret Service Director.www.wpxi.com
The fastest way to convince me it's a conspiracy is for eye patch McCain to say its not a conspiracy.
See the video inside of the video.
See the video inside of the video.
This is correct.
The CS team picked up and shifted their position 3 or 4 minutes before the shots because they did not have LOS on the shooter.
The CS team picked up and shifted their position 3 or 4 minutes before the shots because they did not have LOS on the shooter.
Shooter had a Holosun similar to an AEMS or 512 on his AR.
Line of sight (except for tree blocking CS-1) would have been from a higher position to the shooter than shooter to Trump.
CS-2 would have seen him as he came up to the roof peak before he could see Trump. Once at or past the roof peak and firing, one of the CS took him out. Shell cases will tell how many shots he took. Audio will tell how long before he was splattered.
Parents called because he AND an AR was missing.
Shots on the news, and a missing AR, then the call.
Now, Why would they do that?
CS-2 would have seen him as he came up to the roof peak before he could see Trump. Once at or past the roof peak and firing, one of the CS took him out. Shell cases will tell how many shots he took. Audio will tell how long before he was splattered.
Parents called because he AND an AR was missing.
Shots on the news, and a missing AR, then the call.
Dad of Trump shooter called police after attack with concerns that his son and gun were missing, report says
Matthew Crooks realized his 20-year-old son, Thomas Matthew Crooks, and an AR-style rifle were missing shortly after shots were fired at the former president at a campaign rally on Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania. Three senior law enforcement officials told NBC News that the father then called police.Now, Why would they do that?
Has anyone reviewed prior rally security positions? It looks like all 3 reported positions are perfectly positioned to fire on the shooter's location. If that is the case, why not take team 2 and set them on the shooter's building?
Curious what you guys think, but the overall layout of the venue seems pretty difficult to totally lock down anyway
Curious what you guys think, but the overall layout of the venue seems pretty difficult to totally lock down anyway
They set up positions to cover 360 around the venue.
Not to cover the shooter.
Shooter's building would have been a good spot, two building left/right behind Trump were good spots, CS team 3 (if they existed?) was a good spot, the building 320 yds due west of Trump would have been a good spot.
360 coverage.
Not to cover the shooter.
Shooter's building would have been a good spot, two building left/right behind Trump were good spots, CS team 3 (if they existed?) was a good spot, the building 320 yds due west of Trump would have been a good spot.
360 coverage.
women with big hips have problems with holsters.
Tips in, Gun has to pass the fat.
Muffin Top does help to keep the gun in the holster while moving around though.
My guess is she was the newest member of the group.
Maybe gain some experience at the mall.
Years back, listening to the local Sheriff's on a scanner, a chase through forest roads, I heard a huffing and puffing Deputy call,
"got to stop, I'm going back to arrest the car"
Fat belongs at a desk, or a bench.
Tips in, Gun has to pass the fat.
Muffin Top does help to keep the gun in the holster while moving around though.
My guess is she was the newest member of the group.
Maybe gain some experience at the mall.
Years back, listening to the local Sheriff's on a scanner, a chase through forest roads, I heard a huffing and puffing Deputy call,
"got to stop, I'm going back to arrest the car"
Fat belongs at a desk, or a bench.
Yeah, they missed...this time. Whats to stop them from trying again?
They know Republicans are a paper tiger that will do nothing but print T-shirts.
The Right is blaming the attempted assassination on the negligence of a DEI hire.
It's like stirring an ants nest up and standing there laughing while they crawl around in dumb, confused agitation, not knowing where the source came from.
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Do we know if the photo of the dead shooter is actually from that location? Thinking it is makes people think that Crooks is not the shooter.
Silence from both families. All it would take is for one or the other to show up unscathed.
However, I get it, Conspiracies are fun. We have this nearly unshakable faith that the feds are super smart and are pulling a hoax.
Nope, just garden variety stupid and incompetent.
Or, if it was an inside job, again, stupid and incompetent.
Silence from both families. All it would take is for one or the other to show up unscathed.
However, I get it, Conspiracies are fun. We have this nearly unshakable faith that the feds are super smart and are pulling a hoax.
Nope, just garden variety stupid and incompetent.
Or, if it was an inside job, again, stupid and incompetent.
Way too much focus on DEI hire...focus needs to go a LOT deeper than that. But DEI is trendy right now and they're trying to score a quick buck; and really don't have the political power (thanks to that Romney woman) to get deep into the bowels of an investigation that would have meaning....assuming of course the "right" really want to dive into the swamp....should be safer now to dive since many of the players have been exposed.
How much longer before the full Snipershide report is ready? Starting to look like the same cluster fuck as government. Wrong locations, 5 shots, 9 shots, two shooters, one shooter, Yernick, Crooks, Bullet Physics vs Sound Analysis........Who is putting the final report together?
Trying to solve a crime with some random videos, pictures, and Google Maps is like trying to conceive a child via porn! I suspect it will be more accurate than the COVERment report!..........."Tell them building 7 collapsed because of paper fires!"
Trying to solve a crime with some random videos, pictures, and Google Maps is like trying to conceive a child via porn! I suspect it will be more accurate than the COVERment report!..........."Tell them building 7 collapsed because of paper fires!"
The source is BlackRock and the Globalists, with Biden and Obama rooting from the sidelines.
The negligent DEI hire and lone disturbed shooter scenario is so 1963.
I literally think we witnessed our generations Oswald except he missed his target. Wouldn't be surprised if he had some contact with the same sorts of FBI undercover people who troll for terrorists and whatnot. And if they were told not to go on that roof because it was "too steep" holy shit.
Prepare for a mass activation of mk ultra victims
Posted this AM... and the whole piece makes interesting reading.
Where is the FTC looking at these stock transactions? Who was trying to... pardon my french... make a killing?
If this was the case, then some folks lost their shirts!
Wonder how much Pelosi was betting against Truth Social, etc?
Just wondering....
Sirhr
difficult,competent and through are supposed to be in their job description.
unclear intentions? misdemeanor? like the shot at trumps has been called a possible assassination attempt by the msm
The "told not to go onto the roof" is a CYA reply.
Someone thought looking out 2nd floor windows out over the shooter on his 1st floor roof was a good idea.
Who was the Super HMFIC out of the Pittsburgh Field Office that allowed this lapse?
Go to Google maps, scout out the buildings around where Trump was, where patriots would be sitting, where Trump would enter and leave, pick some that gives you coverage of the entire venue. Maybe even control from a little outside the venue.
See what you come up with. Doesn't seem all that hard to plan.
I guess 270 degree coverage of the venue was almost good enough
Someone thought looking out 2nd floor windows out over the shooter on his 1st floor roof was a good idea.
Who was the Super HMFIC out of the Pittsburgh Field Office that allowed this lapse?
Go to Google maps, scout out the buildings around where Trump was, where patriots would be sitting, where Trump would enter and leave, pick some that gives you coverage of the entire venue. Maybe even control from a little outside the venue.
See what you come up with. Doesn't seem all that hard to plan.
I guess 270 degree coverage of the venue was almost good enough
It appears BlackRock was Crook's recruiter/handler.
Trump shooter appeared in 2022 ad for BlackRock—the sprawling firm conspiracy theorists think runs the world
BlackRock confirmed he was an unpaid student in the ad.
www.dailydot.com
BlackRock owned the building the sniper was on.
They've been wanting, threatening to pull Trump's SS protection so they can get to him. That bullshit event Dr. Jill held at the last minute to pull SS's A Team off of Trump's rallly was part of the assasination plot.
The whore "Dr." Jill needs to swing right next to her pedo husband.
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question. has the alleged 2nd shooter been found and questioned? have heard nothing about that. if he was involved he prob won't be found and is buried somewhere,wood chipped,whatever. if he was not involved,seems to me it would be in the gov interest to find and alibi him. that would distract some of us conspiracy theorists from 1 poss explanation of things
crooks family protected from the media? bullshit being isolated for fbi reasons. cooperating? car batteries,electric wires and stuff.
crooks family protected from the media? bullshit being isolated for fbi reasons. cooperating? car batteries,electric wires and stuff.
No one can be "Off the Hook" until you can CONFIRM Crooks did not have help/guidance from someone else.
Probably worked alone just ain't good enough.
Who knows, maybe one of the LEFT FIELD theories could end up having a little merit.
Some of the theories? Yes. Some of the memes? Naw.
Probably worked alone just ain't good enough.
Who knows, maybe one of the LEFT FIELD theories could end up having a little merit.
Some of the theories? Yes. Some of the memes? Naw.
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ER had gun free zone signs up, so they were confident that nobody had a gun in there.
Branden
I don't think the info that the FBI is leaking to the public is coming out in order. Besides, with the amount of surveillance and intel that the .gov is constantly sweeping up through all electronic means, combined with programs we don't know exists, and AI that's probly better than we know, i'm sure they had the answers to their questions before they even found any evidence to support those answers.
I do find it remarkable that the parents are being shielded by the media. If this kid shot at Biden, his parents would be getting wrecked right now.
The thing for me, is that yes, watching some of the on-camera response shows some glaring incompetence, but I just can't get to the point of agreeing it explains everything; it's just too much of a leap.
The best I can arrive at, is LIHOP (let it happen on purpose).
Some big media (MSNBC, CNN and key political figures), have been stoking for 8 years, language and phrasing, where they were clearly hoping and praying some deranged nutjob would take to heart and take a shot at Trump; it is very clear many of them were praying their rhetoric would elicit this exact response from one of their more rabid followers. They know anyone that buys their drivel is probably stupid and may be willing to try, eventually. Like Tucker mentioned awhile back, I figured it was a guaranteed eventuality that some dipshit, lunatic, left-winger would go overboard, and here we are, success in their minds.
What I can't get past, in this "just incompetence," theory is that the most obvious, closest sniper position was left wide open, after being perused by SWAT with a ladder...you really think a professional security SS team would all just go up there with their ladder, take a look at the very easy sniper vantage, at very near zeroing-range that any moderate novice could probably hit a paper plate 9 out of 10 shots, and say, "Nah, this doesn't need to be secured, let's just leave the ladder here and forget about it?"
Never mind the other info coming out where they may have gotten eyes on him way beforehand, using a rangefinder and such, or members of the crowd yelling about a dude with a rifle, and the rest of the ridiculousness, I can't get to "simple incompetence" with that one fact; it's just too much to believe that SS, counter-sniper professionals and planners would let that slide or just somehow overlook the most obvious vantage, so close to an obvious target (given the decade of stoking rhetoric) and go even further as to leave implements to make it even easier (like the ladder).
I just can't. I won't go so far as to say they hired a hitter, as this kid was surely not a guaranteed shot and wasn't super-skilled, but I'm leaning toward, "someone was hoping a lunatic would take the bait and take a shot, someday, and when that day comes, we'll 'accidentally' make it slightly easier and see what happens." Because we also know, no matter how bad the fuckup looks, nobody will actually pay for any supposed 'incompetence' that will surely be shown, because, well, it's the Fed baby, nobody pays!
yea let it happen,IMHO,applies to 9/11,tonkin,WMDs maybe,MLK,doubt kennedys,likely pearl harbor. that might qualify as a conspiracy of a looser sort.
Be careful posting this stuff because the FFA could be labeled a terrorist organization.
but maybe yet another "conspiracy". prep things to let it happen. make sure incompetent,lazy & corrupt are in charge and bad things are more likely to happen. sure seems to have worked in our military. put incompetent ass kissers in charge and they will fuck things up without any need to "conspire".
They have already labeled the Three percent as a domestic terrorist organization.
And those pesky 1 percent biker organized crime dudes are a problem.
Now they are going after the two percent with the cows…
Sirhr
This made me laugh...clever: "Now they are going after the two percent with the cows…"
Can’t handle those sloped roofs
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Well.....yeah of course.
I figured with all the incompetence we've seen from the SS.....i'm pretty sure they believe signs work.
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