SHTF Food?
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If the S really does HTF you won't be. That is how you will know, the S has in fact HTF.
If you are actually willing to spend the money and do the research, not just buy a pallet of Sam Andy food to stick in the garage for mental security and hope to God you never actually have to eat that gruel, here is what I would suggest.
Start with what you use on your daily/weekly/monthly menu.
Organize your pantry to have a 1 to 3 month supply of all the stuff you buy at the grocery store that is non perishable and number/stack it so you are always grabbing the oldest one first to cook with each day.
Do the same thing with frozen foods such as meat, slowly buy up 1 to 3 months worth of frozen meat and store it in your chest freezer or deep freeze, number it & stack it correctly & then be always grabbing the oldest one. If you can't do that much, try to have at least a month worth.
For things like eggs, cheese, bread and milk, buy the ones with the longest life left each time at the store and try to keep as much on hand as you can regularly eat your way thorough before average expiration dates.
If you eat things like rice, sugar, salt, wheat products, oats, peanut butter, energy bars, jam, cereal etc. Do the same thing, carefully stock several months worth and have a system to always be taking the oldest first.
In short figure out what you actually eat regularly and stockpile as much of that as you can and use it regularly.
Then if your family likes drinking bottled water, stockpile a couple months of that and always be drinking the oldest first.
That is by far the best way to go and if you have that well setup, you will be better than 95% of the US population.
Now AFTER you have done all that, I would go here and look at these guys:
They make high end freeze dried foods that actually taste really good & you can actually eat them as part of normal meals if you wish.
Their whole powdered milk is excellent as are their eggs and yogurt etc.
What they have especially is all your fruits, vegetables, dairy, meat, sauces and such that all the other "survival" food pre-packaged stuff skips over in favor of cheap bulk garbage. Again, go over your menu, pick the things you actually cook with that you can't stockpile easily fresh/frozen and then load up on those. Also their pre made meals are great for camping or quick power outage foods and their freeze dried yogurt and fruit are great for eating as is on hikes and camping trips.
Make sure you have an alternative cooking method or two and fuel for it, such as lots of extra gas bottles and a gas burner or two, or tons of firewood and a wood burning stove etc.
I've been doing the "Survival Food" thing since I was a young child & was basically born into the lifestyle of always being prepared for food emergencies. What I can tell you from experience is most of what people first want to go stock up from the "big names" in survival food packaged deals and the "survival kits" you buy online/at the stores is stuff that you really don't want to eat unless you are literally starving to death and that's all there is. Generally people spend a couple hundred to a couple thousand, buy it, let it sit for 10 or 20 years then throw it away and start over.
You'll be way ahead taking that money and stocking up on what you actually eat. Then if you like depending on your diet, get some air tight 5 gallon storage containers and fill them with rice, sugar, salt, flour, oats, cracked wheat, and all that kind of long term stuff and store them for adde peace of mind (just be sure to CO2 out all the bugs before closing up the containers. You'll throw most of them away after a couple years & need to rotate it, but it's not expensive to do so.
Start with what you use on your daily/weekly/monthly menu.
Organize your pantry to have a 1 to 3 month supply of all the stuff you buy at the grocery store that is non perishable and number/stack it so you are always grabbing the oldest one first to cook with each day.
Do the same thing with frozen foods such as meat, slowly buy up 1 to 3 months worth of frozen meat and store it in your chest freezer or deep freeze, number it & stack it correctly & then be always grabbing the oldest one. If you can't do that much, try to have at least a month worth.
For things like eggs, cheese, bread and milk, buy the ones with the longest life left each time at the store and try to keep as much on hand as you can regularly eat your way thorough before average expiration dates.
If you eat things like rice, sugar, salt, wheat products, oats, peanut butter, energy bars, jam, cereal etc. Do the same thing, carefully stock several months worth and have a system to always be taking the oldest first.
In short figure out what you actually eat regularly and stockpile as much of that as you can and use it regularly.
Then if your family likes drinking bottled water, stockpile a couple months of that and always be drinking the oldest first.
That is by far the best way to go and if you have that well setup, you will be better than 95% of the US population.
Now AFTER you have done all that, I would go here and look at these guys:
They make high end freeze dried foods that actually taste really good & you can actually eat them as part of normal meals if you wish.
Their whole powdered milk is excellent as are their eggs and yogurt etc.
What they have especially is all your fruits, vegetables, dairy, meat, sauces and such that all the other "survival" food pre-packaged stuff skips over in favor of cheap bulk garbage. Again, go over your menu, pick the things you actually cook with that you can't stockpile easily fresh/frozen and then load up on those. Also their pre made meals are great for camping or quick power outage foods and their freeze dried yogurt and fruit are great for eating as is on hikes and camping trips.
Make sure you have an alternative cooking method or two and fuel for it, such as lots of extra gas bottles and a gas burner or two, or tons of firewood and a wood burning stove etc.
I've been doing the "Survival Food" thing since I was a young child & was basically born into the lifestyle of always being prepared for food emergencies. What I can tell you from experience is most of what people first want to go stock up from the "big names" in survival food packaged deals and the "survival kits" you buy online/at the stores is stuff that you really don't want to eat unless you are literally starving to death and that's all there is. Generally people spend a couple hundred to a couple thousand, buy it, let it sit for 10 or 20 years then throw it away and start over.
You'll be way ahead taking that money and stocking up on what you actually eat. Then if you like depending on your diet, get some air tight 5 gallon storage containers and fill them with rice, sugar, salt, flour, oats, cracked wheat, and all that kind of long term stuff and store them for adde peace of mind (just be sure to CO2 out all the bugs before closing up the containers. You'll throw most of them away after a couple years & need to rotate it, but it's not expensive to do so.
Great write up! That method of stocking up on regular canned and dry foods is exactly what I do for my family. Having a 60 day supply is quite doable that way. I don't try to insure a long supply of fresh dairy or eggs. I suppose for a true armageddon situation 60 days would be inadequate. Certainly covers the usual disasters.
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Try them out & see what you think. You might just find that you now can make breakfast just fine and barely notice the difference.
Brands like Mountain House, Backpacker's Pantry, etc. have very good tasting freeze dried food. I eat their individual meals often while hiking, camping, or working. They aren't super cheap, but they're delicious and you can save some money if you buy in bulk. And if you're MIL/LE you can get good deals on Mountain House--not sure which other similar companies offer a discount.
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I've caught at least 25 rainbow trout in the last two days just goofing off and consider those SHTF food and then there's the wild game that falls to a bullet.
30-60 day supply is disaster prep no brainer. But most natural disasters are not SHTF. Those they are isolated and have the whole rest of the Country to back you up. They are temporary inconvenience situations. SHTF events IMHO, are Nuke war, asteroid strike, collapse of Govt., gamma ray burst from the sun or maybe super volcano Yellowstone type events.
The first are not even comparable to the second and require different supplies.
The first are not even comparable to the second and require different supplies.
There's allways long pig that is never in short supply and needing culled ???
Quite correct, but at the same time, unless you have near unlimited resources, you need to budget things for the most likely to happen to the least likely to happen and prepare for that as your budget / space allows.
A lot also depends on where exactly you are on the planet and your local resources.
If you look at history over the past 100 years, it will give you a pretty good idea of what you need to be prepared for.
Being without power for 3 days to a week, and roads covered in debris = highly likely
Stores being empty and food supplies limited for 1 to 3 weeks, long distance travel difficult = very likely
Severe natural disasters that leave food distribution / water distribution / power down for a couple months = likely
Natural disaster, war or civil unrest that leads to food shortages for more than a couple months, happens but likelihood depends on the country.
Years long war or civil unrest = depends on the country, but usually by then it's pick your side & fight, or flee as shown in Syria.
Nuclear war = depends on where you are and local resources but it won't be as much of a problem outside the cities.
Asteroid strike = about 3 years of famine and freezing at worst case (unless truly end of living things type).
Prepare as much as you want, but at the same time, don't badly prepare for the most likely scenarios because you are trying to be "super prepared" for some "end of the world" event.
Give a good look at history for the past 5000 years also. One thing to note is that for any actual civilization ending event, usually those who survived had to be able to travel long distances with what they could move & have the tools & skills to settle back down and start raising food in an area in the globe that could support human / domestic animal & plant life. Lots of places in the world swapped between inhabited & uninhabitable sometimes more than once.
People (preppers) who buy 10-20 year supplies are most likely wasting money. I have a standard 30-60 day supply and maybe 10-12 months of freeze dried or dehydrated supply. Its relatively cheap under a grand to buy. More than that is a waste if you ask me. When it gets old send it to some other disaster event and buy more. Or in a hurricane maybe help my neighbors if needed.
My SHTF plan is identify food and other essential supply storage facilities that are off the radar. Then if it all goes bad, be there first and take as much as you can. No I am not a thug "Diver". It would truly have to be a SHTF survival mode event. Not a little Hurricane.
My SHTF plan is identify food and other essential supply storage facilities that are off the radar. Then if it all goes bad, be there first and take as much as you can. No I am not a thug "Diver". It would truly have to be a SHTF survival mode event. Not a little Hurricane.
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Potted meat.
Saltine crackers.
Canned pig brains.
2- 5 pound bags of grits.
Little Vienna sausages.
6 pints of Pace picanty sauce
2 packs of hot dogs
Bag of stay puft Marsh mellers
That aught to do you fer bout a week, week and half. By then everything should be back to normal down at the wawlmarts.
Potted meat.
Saltine crackers.
Canned pig brains.
2- 5 pound bags of grits.
Little Vienna sausages.
6 pints of Pace picanty sauce
2 packs of hot dogs
Bag of stay puft Marsh mellers
That aught to do you fer bout a week, week and half. By then everything should be back to normal down at the wawlmarts.
600lbs anchovy fillets packed in oil, drained
85lbs small garlic cloves
100 lbs Kosher salt
200 large egg yolks
5 gallons fresh lemon juice, plus more
78.5 lbs Dijon mustard
29 gallons olive oil
20gallons vegetable oil
3 full wheels finely grated Parmesan
15 lbs Freshly ground black pepper
2700lbs of fresh Romaine lettuce.
Then you can make a tasty Caesar Salad anytime.
85lbs small garlic cloves
100 lbs Kosher salt
200 large egg yolks
5 gallons fresh lemon juice, plus more
78.5 lbs Dijon mustard
29 gallons olive oil
20gallons vegetable oil
3 full wheels finely grated Parmesan
15 lbs Freshly ground black pepper
2700lbs of fresh Romaine lettuce.
Then you can make a tasty Caesar Salad anytime.
donuts,,, to lure in mutherfuckers that cant shoot so you can take their shit 
Me and Mama are laying in rice, beans, dehydrated chicken/beef and powdered eggs. Also powdered milk, freeze dried veggies, freeze dried potatoes, and canned meats. Lots of salt, spices, alcohol, coffee/tea, antibiotics and medical supplies.
Of course powder, bullets, primers and bleach, filters to make clean water, and shit like that.
The packaged MRE stuff is expensive and over rated. In a cool/dry place a bag of rice or dried beans, protected from bugs and rats, will last decades as will home canned goodies.
VooDoo
Of course powder, bullets, primers and bleach, filters to make clean water, and shit like that.
The packaged MRE stuff is expensive and over rated. In a cool/dry place a bag of rice or dried beans, protected from bugs and rats, will last decades as will home canned goodies.
VooDoo
Jesus, you guys are queers. The real answer is "squirrels", or whatever else you can catch. Jeez.
A couple of tubs of "emergency food" stored in the basement. One 20lb. bag of rice stored in the garage. I wouldn't eat either but I bet I would if I got hungry enough. Try and just get extra non-perishable foods of your normal liking to have an extra supply "just in case". I bet you have more food in your pantry than you realize. Stuff you've ignored for a long time that you'd be happy to eat once there was nothing to eat.
Food is not the hard part to plan and store. It's water that I'm worried most about. Filters and known natural supply is about all that you can do.
Food is not the hard part to plan and store. It's water that I'm worried most about. Filters and known natural supply is about all that you can do.
Get yerself some land. Plant five acres of apples. Apples store good in a root cellar, they make real good cider, hard cider, and vinegar. They make a good natural deer attractant. Get four twenty gallon crocks, plan to grow an acre of cabbage. Good to have all the sour kraut you want. Get some summer squash, winter squash, Pie pumpkins seeds. Plan to plant two acres along with a quarter acre of string beans sweet peas and tomatoes. Make sure some of it is heirloom seeds.
It is not so hard to plan so that when civilation goes down you don't miss a beat. You can save money getting prepared because you got your own apples, your own meat, a place to shoot without going to a range. Best of all you can start the good life now, you don't have to wait for the SHTF.
It is not so hard to plan so that when civilation goes down you don't miss a beat. You can save money getting prepared because you got your own apples, your own meat, a place to shoot without going to a range. Best of all you can start the good life now, you don't have to wait for the SHTF.
Damn good post.If you are actually willing to spend the money and do the research, not just buy a pallet of Sam Andy food to stick in the garage for mental security and hope to God you never actually have to eat that gruel, here is what I would suggest.
Start with what you use on your daily/weekly/monthly menu.
Organize your pantry to have a 1 to 3 month supply of all the stuff you buy at the grocery store that is non perishable and number/stack it so you are always grabbing the oldest one first to cook with each day.
Do the same thing with frozen foods such as meat, slowly buy up 1 to 3 months worth of frozen meat and store it in your chest freezer or deep freeze, number it & stack it correctly & then be always grabbing the oldest one. If you can't do that much, try to have at least a month worth.
For things like eggs, cheese, bread and milk, buy the ones with the longest life left each time at the store and try to keep as much on hand as you can regularly eat your way thorough before average expiration dates.
If you eat things like rice, sugar, salt, wheat products, oats, peanut butter, energy bars, jam, cereal etc. Do the same thing, carefully stock several months worth and have a system to always be taking the oldest first.
In short figure out what you actually eat regularly and stockpile as much of that as you can and use it regularly.
Then if your family likes drinking bottled water, stockpile a couple months of that and always be drinking the oldest first.
That is by far the best way to go and if you have that well setup, you will be better than 95% of the US population.
Now AFTER you have done all that, I would go here and look at these guys:
They make high end freeze dried foods that actually taste really good & you can actually eat them as part of normal meals if you wish.
Their whole powdered milk is excellent as are their eggs and yogurt etc.
What they have especially is all your fruits, vegetables, dairy, meat, sauces and such that all the other "survival" food pre-packaged stuff skips over in favor of cheap bulk garbage. Again, go over your menu, pick the things you actually cook with that you can't stockpile easily fresh/frozen and then load up on those. Also their pre made meals are great for camping or quick power outage foods and their freeze dried yogurt and fruit are great for eating as is on hikes and camping trips.
Make sure you have an alternative cooking method or two and fuel for it, such as lots of extra gas bottles and a gas burner or two, or tons of firewood and a wood burning stove etc.
I've been doing the "Survival Food" thing since I was a young child & was basically born into the lifestyle of always being prepared for food emergencies. What I can tell you from experience is most of what people first want to go stock up from the "big names" in survival food packaged deals and the "survival kits" you buy online/at the stores is stuff that you really don't want to eat unless you are literally starving to death and that's all there is. Generally people spend a couple hundred to a couple thousand, buy it, let it sit for 10 or 20 years then throw it away and start over.
You'll be way ahead taking that money and stocking up on what you actually eat. Then if you like depending on your diet, get some air tight 5 gallon storage containers and fill them with rice, sugar, salt, flour, oats, cracked wheat, and all that kind of long term stuff and store them for adde peace of mind (just be sure to CO2 out all the bugs before closing up the containers. You'll throw most of them away after a couple years & need to rotate it, but it's not expensive to do so.
If you have kids, you need to consider if they are picky eaters.
After 24 hours they will eat anything
Those 24 hours might make your life hell
If you have the space, stock up on what you eat. Get a 2 month food supply of the normal stuff and eat the oldest first.
Rotate stuff to the kitchen
Move things forward
New stuff behind old stuff
Pasta lasts a very long time
Water filters are essential based upon where you live. For me it’s drinking swimming pool water or finding a way to drink seawater
LA is full of people. My exit will be on a sailboat. No way to drive in LA after a quake where wires are down, overpasses are down and cars by the millions are stuck on the road... I’m not going anywhere via car.
After 24 hours they will eat anything
Those 24 hours might make your life hell
If you have the space, stock up on what you eat. Get a 2 month food supply of the normal stuff and eat the oldest first.
Rotate stuff to the kitchen
Move things forward
New stuff behind old stuff
Pasta lasts a very long time
Water filters are essential based upon where you live. For me it’s drinking swimming pool water or finding a way to drink seawater
LA is full of people. My exit will be on a sailboat. No way to drive in LA after a quake where wires are down, overpasses are down and cars by the millions are stuck on the road... I’m not going anywhere via car.
As usual....good information here. We have stock piles canned food and rice. We don't hunt but have done squirrel and rabbit. Our neighbors lives through the depression and have seen very tough times. We talk to them a lot.....they said the key to survival is keeping warm. They have installed 2 wood burning stoves in their house which we are considering. They are 98 years old and will out work my wife and I all day!!lol
If you get enough together an buy a complete class 8 truck load like we did, the shipping was free an the price was over 50% off store prices of Mtn House freeze'd dried. 25 year shelf life an the kids loved the samples we store bought prior to, over some other brands. Add in a little pot meat or maybe Soylent Pink once it hits the market, an your good for along time.
Berkey or Propur gravity water filter. Can use it everyday to purify tap water from the faucet and ave money on bottled water but works just as well dumping river/lake/rainwater through it long term. Good to actually use your stuff.
Lots of .177 pellets and 22 ammo. No shortage of things to eat. Beans and rice are cheap to stockpile as well. Just add meat.
Lots of .177 pellets and 22 ammo. No shortage of things to eat. Beans and rice are cheap to stockpile as well. Just add meat.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around "SHTF food"...and "picky eater". Seriously?
LOL...I am a simple eater! And I don't like my foods touching each other on my plate! Drives my wife nuts.
As far as training...25 years law enforcement, MMA fighting when I was younger, still shoot a lot and train and drink a lot of beer. That it part of training also. I have just come to the conclusion that it's better to be more prepared and not need than not?
As far as training...25 years law enforcement, MMA fighting when I was younger, still shoot a lot and train and drink a lot of beer. That it part of training also. I have just come to the conclusion that it's better to be more prepared and not need than not?
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Keep a list of soft target preppers. Work smarter not harder.
I was once young and silly.
I wasnt a picky eater and learned after having a very limited budget for a while (a month or so) that any sort of edible food will work.
Some good info here. I have some good plans, some of yours add to it in a good way.
Thanks for sharing.
I wasnt a picky eater and learned after having a very limited budget for a while (a month or so) that any sort of edible food will work.
Some good info here. I have some good plans, some of yours add to it in a good way.
Thanks for sharing.
Comfort food, will calm people down. One of the reasons we stock lots of hard/soft candy as well as other none std SHTF food, for those w/o a Stalwart mind set. Sugar an Honey cooking ability's should be known to all adult's in charge to help others who will not be able to handle many things outside of whats normal today. The thing we found is when dealing with outside issues, those are compounded many times over if you have to spend time/effort to halt internal issues at the same time. Some groups only gloss over 1st an 2nd gen what if, not for everything conceivable for those inside your wire, is poor planning.
A friend's SHTF food storage plan: "Store what you eat. I eat Twinkies, so, I'm storing 2 years worth." I asked about the shelf life of Twinkies, he responded, "The shelf life of Twinkies is dependent upon, and determined by, the actual life of the shelf..."
To get something you have to give up something. Family's come with needed group skill sets, that baggage has to be dealt with like it or not. Going it alone has it's rewards an issues.
People are food, bro. Just ask Jeff Dahlmer or that guy "Donner". When the going gets tough,,,,you just boil or stew them til they are tender.
So plant potatoes, carrots, onions and maybe some green veggies, make sure you have a few apple trees for cider and pies, sugar beets and honey bees for sweetener and you are set. Just swing by the neighbors for the main course.
So plant potatoes, carrots, onions and maybe some green veggies, make sure you have a few apple trees for cider and pies, sugar beets and honey bees for sweetener and you are set. Just swing by the neighbors for the main course.
I live on 16 acres, have some cows, chickens and a garden, our pond has turtles and fish in it and we hunt. Ialso learned how to forage for mushrooms and now I'm learning wild edibles.
I am not worried.. it's not going to be nice but doable, humans have lived 1000s years without the tools we have now, food is everywhere once you learn to recognize it.
I am not worried.. it's not going to be nice but doable, humans have lived 1000s years without the tools we have now, food is everywhere once you learn to recognize it.
