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Yeah, I've frequented that site. Usually a pretty good place to buy/sell stuff.
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The monthly match is 2-12-12 at NCW Gun Club. 9am sign in.
Don't bring magnums unless you bring your own steel and have enough steel for back up targets so we don't have to stop the match. OH and your own mover.
Thank you.
PS, if you do provide the steel, I'm shooting my 338 Lapua
PNW= Pacific north west.
SFP rules.
The monthly match is 2-12-12 at NCW Gun Club. 9am sign in.
Don't bring magnums unless you bring your own steel and have enough steel for back up targets so we don't have to stop the match. OH and your own mover.
Thank you.
PS, if you do provide the steel, I'm shooting my 338 Lapua
PNW= Pacific north west.
SFP rules.
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For anyone around the Puyallup area I saw this on Craigslist. Pelican 1750 w/ foam for $130. Looks like a good deal to me...
For anyone around the Puyallup area I saw this on Craigslist. Pelican 1750 w/ foam for $130. Looks like a good deal to me...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The monthly match has been moved to 2-12-12 so the guys that like to watch guys in tights can do so on 2-5-12.
I threw up in my mouth a little just typing this....
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Don't ask, don't tell.
1911fan
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The monthly match has been moved to 2-12-12 so the guys that like to watch guys in tights can do so on 2-5-12.
I threw up in my mouth a little just typing this....
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Don't ask, don't tell.
1911fan
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Hopefully i can start shooting the monthly matches in march. Right now all i got is a Pistol and a suit case in a hotel room until the middle of next month.
As far as the FFP scopes go i have been thinking about trying one myself. If anyone has a Premier i can look through i would appreciate a chance to try before buy. But Night-Force hasn't let me down. 95% of the time i am on the highest power anyways, so I don't know if FFP is necessarily for me. The only FFP optic i have is hard as hell to see at lowest power so i am a little skeptical of dumping the extra $.
Hopefully i can start shooting the monthly matches in march. Right now all i got is a Pistol and a suit case in a hotel room until the middle of next month.
As far as the FFP scopes go i have been thinking about trying one myself. If anyone has a Premier i can look through i would appreciate a chance to try before buy. But Night-Force hasn't let me down. 95% of the time i am on the highest power anyways, so I don't know if FFP is necessarily for me. The only FFP optic i have is hard as hell to see at lowest power so i am a little skeptical of dumping the extra $.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrGiggles</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Considering the 2nd Sunday now. Need to get enough interest to make it worthwhile though.</div></div>
I've been a bit busy. Where is this match taking place. I might be able to make it on any Sunday. </div></div>
Norht Central WA gun club in East Wenatchee.
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Is there still room at the match? And were do I sign up? I'm in.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrGiggles</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Considering the 2nd Sunday now. Need to get enough interest to make it worthwhile though.</div></div>
I've been a bit busy. Where is this match taking place. I might be able to make it on any Sunday. </div></div>
Norht Central WA gun club in East Wenatchee.
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Is there still room at the match? And were do I sign up? I'm in.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrGiggles</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrGiggles</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Considering the 2nd Sunday now. Need to get enough interest to make it worthwhile though.</div></div>
I've been a bit busy. Where is this match taking place. I might be able to make it on any Sunday. </div></div>
Norht Central WA gun club in East Wenatchee.
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Is there still room at the match? And were do I sign up? I'm in. </div></div>
Should be room.
Just drop JLR a PM and let him know.
Jim
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrGiggles</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrGiggles</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Considering the 2nd Sunday now. Need to get enough interest to make it worthwhile though.</div></div>
I've been a bit busy. Where is this match taking place. I might be able to make it on any Sunday. </div></div>
Norht Central WA gun club in East Wenatchee.
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Is there still room at the match? And were do I sign up? I'm in. </div></div>
Should be room.
Just drop JLR a PM and let him know.
Jim
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does anybody know of any local 3 gun or any other high round count ar/pistol matches? how much interest is there here in a 100-450yd ar match? i am thinking lots of rounds down range, no max round count, just time limits. I am sure that if i can't make arrangements JLR or JTP can accomodate it.
does anybody know of any local 3 gun or any other high round count ar/pistol matches? how much interest is there here in a 100-450yd ar match? i am thinking lots of rounds down range, no max round count, just time limits. I am sure that if i can't make arrangements JLR or JTP can accomodate it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TeamSendIt!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body">does anybody know of any local 3 gun or any other high round count ar/pistol matches? how much interest is there here in a 100-450yd ar match? i am thinking lots of rounds down range, no max round count, just time limits. I am sure that if i can't make arrangements JLR or JTP can accomodate it.</div></div>
Good 3gun matches are few and far between here in the NW. There are only a handful each year at best (MGM Ironman, Ephrata 3gun, Northwest Multigun Challenge, Area 1 MG and usually a smaller match put on by the guys down in Tri Cities.
That being said, I know JTP was wanting to put on another one this year similar to last year. We could pretty easily put together a ar/pistol match.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TeamSendIt!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body">does anybody know of any local 3 gun or any other high round count ar/pistol matches? how much interest is there here in a 100-450yd ar match? i am thinking lots of rounds down range, no max round count, just time limits. I am sure that if i can't make arrangements JLR or JTP can accomodate it.</div></div>
Good 3gun matches are few and far between here in the NW. There are only a handful each year at best (MGM Ironman, Ephrata 3gun, Northwest Multigun Challenge, Area 1 MG and usually a smaller match put on by the guys down in Tri Cities.
That being said, I know JTP was wanting to put on another one this year similar to last year. We could pretty easily put together a ar/pistol match.
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Jesse,
That would be absolutely awesome, i love precision rifle and tactical matches, but i have to say that was probably the most fun i have had with rifle/pistol in along time!!! that cowboy action town was off the hook!!!
I can promise you anyone that comes out to give it a try will damn sure be hooked!!! You shoot so much steel it almost sings to you.
Jesse,
That would be absolutely awesome, i love precision rifle and tactical matches, but i have to say that was probably the most fun i have had with rifle/pistol in along time!!! that cowboy action town was off the hook!!!
I can promise you anyone that comes out to give it a try will damn sure be hooked!!! You shoot so much steel it almost sings to you.
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So, in mine and Unknown's scouting trip we went out to a Sand & Gravel pit area. I was able to get into contact with one of the owners who has been put off by shooting within the pits in the past, but said as we're obviously into this as more of sport and organized he would consider it and make a few phone calls to check on the legalities and such. From what we were able to see we might be able to go as far out as 1300 yards in some area and a minimum of 400 in others. If able anything we do out there will have to be extremely organized, liability waivers, etc. It would be just North of the Hood Canal Bridge...
So, in mine and Unknown's scouting trip we went out to a Sand & Gravel pit area. I was able to get into contact with one of the owners who has been put off by shooting within the pits in the past, but said as we're obviously into this as more of sport and organized he would consider it and make a few phone calls to check on the legalities and such. From what we were able to see we might be able to go as far out as 1300 yards in some area and a minimum of 400 in others. If able anything we do out there will have to be extremely organized, liability waivers, etc. It would be just North of the Hood Canal Bridge...
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Broker is correct about the pit's possibilities for shooting. For the past 10 years or so, I have been shooting practical rifle, and precision rifle matches in a smaller (out to around 550 yards) gravel pit at Tri-County gun club out of Sherwood, Oregon.
If we can convince the pit's owner to let us shoot there, it has the possibility of being a wonderful place with some very "real world" types of shooting positions. The neat thing about gravel pits like this one is that getting "real world" shooting positions doesn't take much work at all.
I haven't heard anything yet from Upper Nisqually Sportsman's Club yet. I submitted my written proposal for practical and precision rifle shooting to them just after the first of the year. I suspect that any response will have to wait for the board members to all get together and take a look at what I sent them.
I sent the board info about rules, penalties, safety, my resume', how matches would run, and how to deal with their potential fear that such matches might attract the mercenary "wanna be" types, rather than shooters looking to learn and compete. Hopefully, this will encourage them to look more favorably toward this kind of shooting.
Broker is correct about the pit's possibilities for shooting. For the past 10 years or so, I have been shooting practical rifle, and precision rifle matches in a smaller (out to around 550 yards) gravel pit at Tri-County gun club out of Sherwood, Oregon.
If we can convince the pit's owner to let us shoot there, it has the possibility of being a wonderful place with some very "real world" types of shooting positions. The neat thing about gravel pits like this one is that getting "real world" shooting positions doesn't take much work at all.
I haven't heard anything yet from Upper Nisqually Sportsman's Club yet. I submitted my written proposal for practical and precision rifle shooting to them just after the first of the year. I suspect that any response will have to wait for the board members to all get together and take a look at what I sent them.
I sent the board info about rules, penalties, safety, my resume', how matches would run, and how to deal with their potential fear that such matches might attract the mercenary "wanna be" types, rather than shooters looking to learn and compete. Hopefully, this will encourage them to look more favorably toward this kind of shooting.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im for sure putting one on this summer. More rounds than last year </div></div>
That match you put on last year was bad ass! I really need to get better equiped than I was last year, but I really want to shoot that match again.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im for sure putting one on this summer. More rounds than last year </div></div>
That match you put on last year was bad ass! I really need to get better equiped than I was last year, but I really want to shoot that match again.
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I went out to Green Mountain and there are some DNR areas I found, but the access roads were closed off and DNR won't allow them to be used anymore except by their people. They basically have made access impossible except by Horseback or Hiking and want to turn all of Green Mountain into a "Horseback Park".
I went out to Green Mountain and there are some DNR areas I found, but the access roads were closed off and DNR won't allow them to be used anymore except by their people. They basically have made access impossible except by Horseback or Hiking and want to turn all of Green Mountain into a "Horseback Park".
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im for sure putting one on this summer. More rounds than last year </div></div>
that's the spirit
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im for sure putting one on this summer. More rounds than last year </div></div>
that's the spirit
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TeamSendIt!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im for sure putting one on this summer. More rounds than last year </div></div>
that's the spirit </div></div>
August, bring losta ammo...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TeamSendIt!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im for sure putting one on this summer. More rounds than last year </div></div>
that's the spirit </div></div>
August, bring losta ammo...
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That's really cool Broker. Let me know how the pit works out. I'd deffinitely be interested in stretching my rifle out on some long ranges.
That's really cool Broker. Let me know how the pit works out. I'd deffinitely be interested in stretching my rifle out on some long ranges.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, in mine and Unknown's scouting trip we went out to a Sand & Gravel pit area. I was able to get into contact with one of the owners who has been put off by shooting within the pits in the past, but said as we're obviously into this as more of sport and organized he would consider it and make a few phone calls to check on the legalities and such. From what we were able to see we might be able to go as far out as 1300 yards in some area and a minimum of 400 in others. If able anything we do out there will have to be extremely organized, liability waivers, etc. It would be just North of the Hood Canal Bridge... </div></div>
Is it the Shine quarry ? PM which one it is and who you talked to, There's a good chance I know some people who might be able to help put in a good word also.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, in mine and Unknown's scouting trip we went out to a Sand & Gravel pit area. I was able to get into contact with one of the owners who has been put off by shooting within the pits in the past, but said as we're obviously into this as more of sport and organized he would consider it and make a few phone calls to check on the legalities and such. From what we were able to see we might be able to go as far out as 1300 yards in some area and a minimum of 400 in others. If able anything we do out there will have to be extremely organized, liability waivers, etc. It would be just North of the Hood Canal Bridge... </div></div>
Is it the Shine quarry ? PM which one it is and who you talked to, There's a good chance I know some people who might be able to help put in a good word also.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, in mine and Unknown's scouting trip we went out to a Sand & Gravel pit area. I was able to get into contact with one of the owners who has been put off by shooting within the pits in the past, but said as we're obviously into this as more of sport and organized he would consider it and make a few phone calls to check on the legalities and such. From what we were able to see we might be able to go as far out as 1300 yards in some area and a minimum of 400 in others. If able anything we do out there will have to be extremely organized, liability waivers, etc. It would be just North of the Hood Canal Bridge... </div></div>
Is it the Shine quarry ? PM which one it is and who you talked to, There's a good chance I know some people who might be able to help put in a good word also. </div></div>
Port Orchard Sand & Gravel... but if you know people at another pit who can get me a good contact point I will look into it as well...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, in mine and Unknown's scouting trip we went out to a Sand & Gravel pit area. I was able to get into contact with one of the owners who has been put off by shooting within the pits in the past, but said as we're obviously into this as more of sport and organized he would consider it and make a few phone calls to check on the legalities and such. From what we were able to see we might be able to go as far out as 1300 yards in some area and a minimum of 400 in others. If able anything we do out there will have to be extremely organized, liability waivers, etc. It would be just North of the Hood Canal Bridge... </div></div>
Is it the Shine quarry ? PM which one it is and who you talked to, There's a good chance I know some people who might be able to help put in a good word also. </div></div>
Port Orchard Sand & Gravel... but if you know people at another pit who can get me a good contact point I will look into it as well...
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I have a DPMS LR308 that is a factory built rifle with a 24 inch barrel, and about every bell and whistle I could get the factory to put on the rifle. It is a slick side upper (no ejection port cover). Barrel is fluted, and factory black rather than silver color. The rifle has Miculek compensator, and I had a gunsmith ventilate the handguard rather than have it retain heat. Complete JP trigger, and all the tactical (tacticool if you prefer) switches, levers, and operating systems I could order. Plenty of magazines and a Leupold Mk4 4-14x40 Mil dot scope.
Lately I have been thinking about the Yugoslavian M76 rifle in 8mm. I know that Century rifles have problems, but there are some others that are quite well made. If anyone in this section has one, and can give me input, please let me know if I should just stick with my LR308, or if it might be worth my time to seek out someone who might want to do a trade.
I don't expect that the Yugoslavian rifle will shoot under minute of angle, but some do that and more...I understand it is a designated marksman's rifle, not what we consider a precision rifle.
Anyhow, just looking for input about the wisdom of a potential trade with someone local. Input appreciated.
I have a DPMS LR308 that is a factory built rifle with a 24 inch barrel, and about every bell and whistle I could get the factory to put on the rifle. It is a slick side upper (no ejection port cover). Barrel is fluted, and factory black rather than silver color. The rifle has Miculek compensator, and I had a gunsmith ventilate the handguard rather than have it retain heat. Complete JP trigger, and all the tactical (tacticool if you prefer) switches, levers, and operating systems I could order. Plenty of magazines and a Leupold Mk4 4-14x40 Mil dot scope.
Lately I have been thinking about the Yugoslavian M76 rifle in 8mm. I know that Century rifles have problems, but there are some others that are quite well made. If anyone in this section has one, and can give me input, please let me know if I should just stick with my LR308, or if it might be worth my time to seek out someone who might want to do a trade.
I don't expect that the Yugoslavian rifle will shoot under minute of angle, but some do that and more...I understand it is a designated marksman's rifle, not what we consider a precision rifle.
Anyhow, just looking for input about the wisdom of a potential trade with someone local. Input appreciated.
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Buddy on Oregon has a M76 and it will shoot 1" but no better with the right ammo. Milsurp 8mm Yugo Match/Sniper ammo is out there and by comparison to 308 Match ammo its reasonably priced. Problem is finding it in quantity.
Non match ammo they will shoot 2-3 or at least this example did. While robust as any other comblock Klash variant the thicker receiver and heavier weight make them feel more substantial than their little brothers in 7.62x39 or 5.45
From a logistics standpoint I would advise against it based on ammo availability alone. I change rifles like I change socks so I understand the desire to try something new every so often but an AK variant isnt somthing easy to tinker with so you better like it as is and realize the selection of optics that will work with the rifle are limited. Again optics like other items related to AK are robust just not very advanced by the standards we have become accustomed to...and the knobs are gonna take some reading up on to zero as designed.
If it were me I would part out the DPMS and rebuild it into somthing that will renew your interest in it. Ammo is readily available in flavors ranging from match grade to bulk SA battle packed plinking grade.
Not all CAI rifles are crap but you need to know what to look for and its best to find a store that has several and cherry pick the one best one. Most issues are related to mag fitment which is caused by dicked up mag well and or bullet guide or the latch being improperly fit. Another notorious flaw with CAI is missalighned gas block and sight tower. I'm not shy about bringing a small machinist square with me to buy an AK and I will ask the shop to open up a sealed spare mag to check fitment as it seems they (CAI) will package the two mags from a big ass pile that fit the best with the rifle but you want to ensure it will work with a random magazine.
Buddy on Oregon has a M76 and it will shoot 1" but no better with the right ammo. Milsurp 8mm Yugo Match/Sniper ammo is out there and by comparison to 308 Match ammo its reasonably priced. Problem is finding it in quantity.
Non match ammo they will shoot 2-3 or at least this example did. While robust as any other comblock Klash variant the thicker receiver and heavier weight make them feel more substantial than their little brothers in 7.62x39 or 5.45
From a logistics standpoint I would advise against it based on ammo availability alone. I change rifles like I change socks so I understand the desire to try something new every so often but an AK variant isnt somthing easy to tinker with so you better like it as is and realize the selection of optics that will work with the rifle are limited. Again optics like other items related to AK are robust just not very advanced by the standards we have become accustomed to...and the knobs are gonna take some reading up on to zero as designed.
If it were me I would part out the DPMS and rebuild it into somthing that will renew your interest in it. Ammo is readily available in flavors ranging from match grade to bulk SA battle packed plinking grade.
Not all CAI rifles are crap but you need to know what to look for and its best to find a store that has several and cherry pick the one best one. Most issues are related to mag fitment which is caused by dicked up mag well and or bullet guide or the latch being improperly fit. Another notorious flaw with CAI is missalighned gas block and sight tower. I'm not shy about bringing a small machinist square with me to buy an AK and I will ask the shop to open up a sealed spare mag to check fitment as it seems they (CAI) will package the two mags from a big ass pile that fit the best with the rifle but you want to ensure it will work with a random magazine.
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AnchorZeroSix,
Thanks for the input...good advice. Maybe refitting the DPMS rifle would be the best bet. I already have an Obermeyer stainless 1-11 twist 30 cal barrel put aside for whichever rifle needs it first.
If I were going to do something with the DPMS rifle, I would probably just have it rebarreled to a 260 Remington as I have a bolt rifle in that cartridge.
AnchorZeroSix,
Thanks for the input...good advice. Maybe refitting the DPMS rifle would be the best bet. I already have an Obermeyer stainless 1-11 twist 30 cal barrel put aside for whichever rifle needs it first.
If I were going to do something with the DPMS rifle, I would probably just have it rebarreled to a 260 Remington as I have a bolt rifle in that cartridge.
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Anyone local got a NF F1 I could look through or know of a shop that has one in stock and wouldn't mind me getting my grubby hands on it.
Marty
ps in Seattle
Anyone local got a NF F1 I could look through or know of a shop that has one in stock and wouldn't mind me getting my grubby hands on it.
Marty
ps in Seattle
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Unknown, just do like i did and get a .260 upper for the DPMS, use same mags and lower with stock,trigger,grip.
Unknown, just do like i did and get a .260 upper for the DPMS, use same mags and lower with stock,trigger,grip.
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Hey guys I just wanted to give the Wa Crew a heads up that I am selling my Nemesis Vanquish (mini windrunner). I have another build in the works and I need some funds to help finish it up so its on the chopping block.
I plan on listing it here and on a few other sites as well. I prefer to keep the optics/mount but it could go complete.
PM me for details.
Hey guys I just wanted to give the Wa Crew a heads up that I am selling my Nemesis Vanquish (mini windrunner). I have another build in the works and I need some funds to help finish it up so its on the chopping block.
I plan on listing it here and on a few other sites as well. I prefer to keep the optics/mount but it could go complete.
PM me for details.
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Random thought for you WW guys…
So I’m sitting at work bored as hell and getting sucked further into the web and I stumbled across snowshoe biathlon.
I have been wanting to give biathlon a try but the opportunities are few and far between to attend one of the local intro courses. Also while I have not tried cross country skis... I for one am a train wreck on downhill skis so that has put some hesitation in the back of my mind.
Last year wife and I got into snowshoeing and are enjoying it, matter of fact she will be participating in a SGC Foundation sponsored 5K snowshoe thing this weekend. She has been wanting to do more shooting but to be honest she likes to plink around with things that either break or move and I lose her attention rather quickly when I’m laying prone for two hours and logging data for each shot…she just doesn’t get my OCD appreciation for LR shooting lol.
So all of this got me thinking about the possibility of a family friendly activity that would involve playing in the snow as well as shooting and well the dots came together with the notion of snowshoe biathlon. While this is not 100% an original idea the sanctioned version that I found rules for are much more regulated and restrictive than what I had in mind. I’m thinking something geared more towards folks who drive pickup trucks and not Subaru’s with” wag more bark less” stickers on them
My interaction (granted very limited) with some of the local Biathalon folks more or less gave me the impression that they are not really "Gun people" even though a rimfire is part of the sport.
Offhand here is what I’m thinking and bear in mind I have only been thinking about it since this morning so I’m sure there are many flaws to work out.
-Obviously there will be a need for suitable winter wear but unlike biathlon I see no need for spandex superhero costumes.
-Snowshoes will be needed but they range in price from 50.00-300.00+ and can be rented from most area REI’s cheap enough to allow folks to try this without committing to buying gear.
-.22 rimfire rifles would be used and I think to simplify the format just dividing them into two classes one with and one without optics. Aside from that it should be open to any configuration a person has that can be carried slung with a range flag in the chamber safely.
- I think reactive targets would be the most fun. Specifically thinking the rubber type targets that are cheap, last a long time and they are lightweight /easy to set up. Haven’t thought out any specific course of fire or scoring but perhaps alternating stages with paper targets scored for group size would be a good idea. Again haven’t put much thought into details but offhand what I’m imagining is a scoring format that would involve the time of each participant from start to finish as well as points deducted for missed targets at a given stage or points added for target score on paper stage.
Example of course of fire and scoring:
Lets just say we have for arguments sake we have a 3K course. Pairs of shooters would start off a line and follow the course to the first stage at 300 yards. When you get to the first stage you would have 5 reactive targets of various size and shape at varying distance let’s just say 25yd to 75 yd . This stage would require shots to be taken from standing position using trekking poles as shooting sticks. Next stage set further down the line would have a row of 10 targets at same distance lets say 50 yds fired from prone. Next stage 10 rounds on paper target scored for points fired standing with sling. Next stage would have 10 reactive targets some hidden some not and of various sizes with different point value based on difficulty these would be indicated by color code from 1-3 points. 5 rounds for this stage, any shooting position allowed. First shooter to tell RO “Shooter Ready” will get to take first shot. During this time the other shooter can be sighting in his/her shot but that may also be the shot the first shooter is taking and each target can only be hit once so if shooter one hits a target the second shooter is set up on he/she would have to find another. Conversely if shooter one misses shooter two can take the shot for points. Final stage would be two paper targets and 10 rounds. Target at 25 yds will count for face value of score and target at 75 yds will be scored triple value.
Each participant’s time will be recorded as they cross the finish line. Scores from each stage will be totaled for points (added or deducted for missed shots) and this will be added to the time. So if the time is 20:10 and the score from shooting is 340 (max possible based on course of fire above) the total score would be 20:10-3:40=16:30 Not sure if this format of scoring would be practical but its what came to mind offhand.
OK so am I just suffering from too much boredom at work or would something like this have any appeal to anyone else? Main goal is to get out and enjoy the snow, get the family involved and work on marksmanship in a physical and dynamic setting and not require a huge investment in specialized gear/equipment.
Haven’t even gone as far as locations but I would think this would be easier to put together than some of the LR shoots given the relatively short ranges and small caliber rifles being used. Also there is nothing definitive about any of this so I’m interested to hear suggestions on how the above outline/format could be improved.
R/
A06
Random thought for you WW guys…
So I’m sitting at work bored as hell and getting sucked further into the web and I stumbled across snowshoe biathlon.
I have been wanting to give biathlon a try but the opportunities are few and far between to attend one of the local intro courses. Also while I have not tried cross country skis... I for one am a train wreck on downhill skis so that has put some hesitation in the back of my mind.
Last year wife and I got into snowshoeing and are enjoying it, matter of fact she will be participating in a SGC Foundation sponsored 5K snowshoe thing this weekend. She has been wanting to do more shooting but to be honest she likes to plink around with things that either break or move and I lose her attention rather quickly when I’m laying prone for two hours and logging data for each shot…she just doesn’t get my OCD appreciation for LR shooting lol.
So all of this got me thinking about the possibility of a family friendly activity that would involve playing in the snow as well as shooting and well the dots came together with the notion of snowshoe biathlon. While this is not 100% an original idea the sanctioned version that I found rules for are much more regulated and restrictive than what I had in mind. I’m thinking something geared more towards folks who drive pickup trucks and not Subaru’s with” wag more bark less” stickers on them
Offhand here is what I’m thinking and bear in mind I have only been thinking about it since this morning so I’m sure there are many flaws to work out.
-Obviously there will be a need for suitable winter wear but unlike biathlon I see no need for spandex superhero costumes.
-Snowshoes will be needed but they range in price from 50.00-300.00+ and can be rented from most area REI’s cheap enough to allow folks to try this without committing to buying gear.
-.22 rimfire rifles would be used and I think to simplify the format just dividing them into two classes one with and one without optics. Aside from that it should be open to any configuration a person has that can be carried slung with a range flag in the chamber safely.
- I think reactive targets would be the most fun. Specifically thinking the rubber type targets that are cheap, last a long time and they are lightweight /easy to set up. Haven’t thought out any specific course of fire or scoring but perhaps alternating stages with paper targets scored for group size would be a good idea. Again haven’t put much thought into details but offhand what I’m imagining is a scoring format that would involve the time of each participant from start to finish as well as points deducted for missed targets at a given stage or points added for target score on paper stage.
Example of course of fire and scoring:
Lets just say we have for arguments sake we have a 3K course. Pairs of shooters would start off a line and follow the course to the first stage at 300 yards. When you get to the first stage you would have 5 reactive targets of various size and shape at varying distance let’s just say 25yd to 75 yd . This stage would require shots to be taken from standing position using trekking poles as shooting sticks. Next stage set further down the line would have a row of 10 targets at same distance lets say 50 yds fired from prone. Next stage 10 rounds on paper target scored for points fired standing with sling. Next stage would have 10 reactive targets some hidden some not and of various sizes with different point value based on difficulty these would be indicated by color code from 1-3 points. 5 rounds for this stage, any shooting position allowed. First shooter to tell RO “Shooter Ready” will get to take first shot. During this time the other shooter can be sighting in his/her shot but that may also be the shot the first shooter is taking and each target can only be hit once so if shooter one hits a target the second shooter is set up on he/she would have to find another. Conversely if shooter one misses shooter two can take the shot for points. Final stage would be two paper targets and 10 rounds. Target at 25 yds will count for face value of score and target at 75 yds will be scored triple value.
Each participant’s time will be recorded as they cross the finish line. Scores from each stage will be totaled for points (added or deducted for missed shots) and this will be added to the time. So if the time is 20:10 and the score from shooting is 340 (max possible based on course of fire above) the total score would be 20:10-3:40=16:30 Not sure if this format of scoring would be practical but its what came to mind offhand.
OK so am I just suffering from too much boredom at work or would something like this have any appeal to anyone else? Main goal is to get out and enjoy the snow, get the family involved and work on marksmanship in a physical and dynamic setting and not require a huge investment in specialized gear/equipment.
Haven’t even gone as far as locations but I would think this would be easier to put together than some of the LR shoots given the relatively short ranges and small caliber rifles being used. Also there is nothing definitive about any of this so I’m interested to hear suggestions on how the above outline/format could be improved.
R/
A06
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A06
Biathlon is awesome! I had an borrowed Anschutz for a couple of years. The sport is fun but it is more for the person who can train to be an excellent skier. Close to you they do have the run/shoot style biathlons. try here, http://www.wabiathlon.org/
I have always wanted to do a mtn bike version of this in the summer.
All of the run or bike versions you do not carry the gun with you it stays at the range while you do your circuit.
Cool stuff.
T
A06
Biathlon is awesome! I had an borrowed Anschutz for a couple of years. The sport is fun but it is more for the person who can train to be an excellent skier. Close to you they do have the run/shoot style biathlons. try here, http://www.wabiathlon.org/
I have always wanted to do a mtn bike version of this in the summer.
All of the run or bike versions you do not carry the gun with you it stays at the range while you do your circuit.
Cool stuff.
T
Re: SHWW Group
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unknown, just do like i did and get a .260 upper for the DPMS, use same mags and lower with stock,trigger,grip. </div></div>
ditto!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unknown, just do like i did and get a .260 upper for the DPMS, use same mags and lower with stock,trigger,grip. </div></div>
ditto!
Re: SHWW Group
Another heads up for you guys, I am selling a Manners T1 90% with badger M5 that has been coated OD green the paint on the bottom metal has chips/dings from use. The stock has also been bedded by Patriot Arms/APA. The stock is for a remington 700 SA with a Varmint contour. No mag included.
Another heads up for you guys, I am selling a Manners T1 90% with badger M5 that has been coated OD green the paint on the bottom metal has chips/dings from use. The stock has also been bedded by Patriot Arms/APA. The stock is for a remington 700 SA with a Varmint contour. No mag included.
Re: SHWW Group
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hunter121</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another heads up for you guys, I am selling a Manners T1 90% with badger M5 that has been coated OD green the paint on the bottom metal has chips/dings from use. The stock has also been bedded by Patriot Arms/APA. The stock is for a remington 700 SA. No mag included.
</div></div>
hunter,
What is the barrel channel?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hunter121</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another heads up for you guys, I am selling a Manners T1 90% with badger M5 that has been coated OD green the paint on the bottom metal has chips/dings from use. The stock has also been bedded by Patriot Arms/APA. The stock is for a remington 700 SA. No mag included.
</div></div>
hunter,
What is the barrel channel?
Re: SHWW Group
Reminder, today is the last day to send in your entry form/ payments for the Findlay Cup.
Jim
509-884-1000
Reminder, today is the last day to send in your entry form/ payments for the Findlay Cup.
Jim
509-884-1000
Re: SHWW Group
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reminder, today is the last day to send in your entry form/ payments for the Findlay Cup.
Jim
509-884-1000</div></div>
I spaced mine until yesterday, but it's in the mail as of the 3rd!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reminder, today is the last day to send in your entry form/ payments for the Findlay Cup.
Jim
509-884-1000</div></div>
I spaced mine until yesterday, but it's in the mail as of the 3rd!!
Re: SHWW Group
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reminder, today is the last day to send in your entry form/ payments for the Findlay Cup.
Jim
509-884-1000 </div></div>
Jim,
Could you post a list of received payments? Just in case....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reminder, today is the last day to send in your entry form/ payments for the Findlay Cup.
Jim
509-884-1000 </div></div>
Jim,
Could you post a list of received payments? Just in case....
Re: SHWW Group
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reminder, today is the last day to send in your entry form/ payments for the Findlay Cup.
Jim
509-884-1000 </div></div>
Jim,
Could you post a list of received payments? Just in case.... </div></div>
I sent mine in but would like the answer to this question as well.
Thank you for your time.
Jake
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reminder, today is the last day to send in your entry form/ payments for the Findlay Cup.
Jim
509-884-1000 </div></div>
Jim,
Could you post a list of received payments? Just in case.... </div></div>
I sent mine in but would like the answer to this question as well.
Thank you for your time.
Jake
Re: SHWW Group
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reminder, today is the last day to send in your entry form/ payments for the Findlay Cup.
Jim
509-884-1000 </div></div>
Jim,
Could you post a list of received payments? Just in case.... </div></div>
I will be sending an e-mail to the people that I have received payment from most likely tomorrow.
Thanks
Jim
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reminder, today is the last day to send in your entry form/ payments for the Findlay Cup.
Jim
509-884-1000 </div></div>
Jim,
Could you post a list of received payments? Just in case.... </div></div>
I will be sending an e-mail to the people that I have received payment from most likely tomorrow.
Thanks
Jim
Re: SHWW Group
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hunter121</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another heads up for you guys, I am selling a Manners T1 90% with badger M5 that has been coated OD green the paint on the bottom metal has chips/dings from use. The stock has also been bedded by Patriot Arms/APA. The stock is for a remington 700 SA. No mag included.
</div></div>
hunter,
What is the barrel channel? </div></div>
Sorry about that, it is a varmint contour.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hunter121</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another heads up for you guys, I am selling a Manners T1 90% with badger M5 that has been coated OD green the paint on the bottom metal has chips/dings from use. The stock has also been bedded by Patriot Arms/APA. The stock is for a remington 700 SA. No mag included.
</div></div>
hunter,
What is the barrel channel? </div></div>
Sorry about that, it is a varmint contour.
Re: SHWW Group
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reminder, today is the last day to send in your entry form/ payments for the Findlay Cup.
Jim
509-884-1000 </div></div>
Jim,
Could you post a list of received payments? Just in case.... </div></div>
I will be sending an e-mail to the people that I have received payment from most likely tomorrow.
Thanks
Jim </div></div>
Thanks Jim.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reminder, today is the last day to send in your entry form/ payments for the Findlay Cup.
Jim
509-884-1000 </div></div>
Jim,
Could you post a list of received payments? Just in case.... </div></div>
I will be sending an e-mail to the people that I have received payment from most likely tomorrow.
Thanks
Jim </div></div>
Thanks Jim.
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NEVER ....... EVER trade one gun for another. Any time I ever traded or sold a gun, I regretted it later. Thinking back about how much I liked the gun and wish I had it back.
Keep your LR308. If you want something else, either buy a new upper for it in the different caliber. Or, just save up and buy a new gun in the caliber you want.
NEVER ....... EVER trade one gun for another. Any time I ever traded or sold a gun, I regretted it later. Thinking back about how much I liked the gun and wish I had it back.
Keep your LR308. If you want something else, either buy a new upper for it in the different caliber. Or, just save up and buy a new gun in the caliber you want.
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Well I just met BOOTNECK on a craigslist purchase. Walked in and saw a sand bag on the floor and couldn't help but ask what type of shooting he did. Nice guy, hopefully we can get together outside of business and do some shooting.
Well I just met BOOTNECK on a craigslist purchase. Walked in and saw a sand bag on the floor and couldn't help but ask what type of shooting he did. Nice guy, hopefully we can get together outside of business and do some shooting.
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Just got the word that 'team send it' is going to change their name.
The new team name from what Scott told me is:
TLTWMIT.
Just got the word that 'team send it' is going to change their name.
The new team name from what Scott told me is:
TLTWMIT.
Re: SHWW Group
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just got the word that 'team send it' is going to change their name.
The new team name from what Scott told me is:
TLTWMIT.
</div></div>
You gonna decipher Jim, or should we make something up?
I lost my super secret decoder ring, but Marty probably has one.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just got the word that 'team send it' is going to change their name.
The new team name from what Scott told me is:
TLTWMIT.
</div></div>
You gonna decipher Jim, or should we make something up?
I lost my super secret decoder ring, but Marty probably has one.
Re: SHWW Group
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just got the word that 'team send it' is going to change their name.
The new team name from what Scott told me is:
TLTWMIT.
</div></div>
Come on Jim, dont tease!! Whats it stand for???
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just got the word that 'team send it' is going to change their name.
The new team name from what Scott told me is:
TLTWMIT.
</div></div>
Come on Jim, dont tease!! Whats it stand for???
Re: SHWW Group
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just got the word that 'team send it' is going to change their name.
The new team name from what Scott told me is:
TLTWMIT.
</div></div>
Teenage Loving Tall White Mutant Internet Turtles?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just got the word that 'team send it' is going to change their name.
The new team name from what Scott told me is:
TLTWMIT.
</div></div>
Teenage Loving Tall White Mutant Internet Turtles?
