Sniper Detectors Coming to America's Heartland

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http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/12/22/sniper-detectors-coming-to-americas-heartland/

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A new technology called ShotSpotter enables law enforcement officials to precisely and instantaneously locate shooters, and it has been quietly rolling out across America. From Long Island, N.Y., to San Francisco, Calif., more than 60 cities in the U.S. have been leveraging ShotSpotter to make their streets safer

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/12/2.../#ixzz1hQCFKFKC</div></div>


Where I live, you would think it was third world on New Years Eve.

The gun fire is everywhere.
 
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GREAT!!!!!!! I can't tell you how EXCITED I am to hear our government is spending even more money on worthless cr*p!

whatever....
 
#4
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I know some guys who have been shooting rats next to their garbage can and crows out of the trees in suburbia for 50 years.

"That was no gun shot officer, I just burned off a fart."
 
#5
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Dunno why I can't convince people that the ONLY reason to deploy stuff like this is to use it against us. Maybe not for a while, but we are headed for a social reset, and it will be chaotic and brutal. Think "Somalia visits Fargo".


1911fan
 
#6
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Did you see all those crack monkeys trying to buy the new Air Jordan shoes, with all the fighting and pepper spraying? Tearing doors off the hinges and trampling each other?

Yeah, this little ShotSpotter thingy isn't gonna pick up a shanking from those gutter rats.

Yet more money we can't afford to spend, wasted.
 
#8
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1911fan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dunno why I can't convince people that the ONLY reason to deploy stuff like this is to use it against us. Maybe not for a while, but we are headed for a social reset, and it will be chaotic and brutal. Think "Somalia visits Fargo".


1911fan</div></div>



My thoughts exactly. All of this shit is being implemented under the guise of 'safety'.
 
#9
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300sniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i'd much rather have this implemented than red light cameras. </div></div>


Why b/c you are of the opinion that the only sound it 'hears' is a gunshot?





Good luck
 
#10
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300sniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i'd much rather have this implemented than red light cameras. </div></div>


Why b/c you are of the opinion that the only sound it 'hears' is a gunshot?





Good luck </div></div>

yeah, because that's what i said.
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I wonder if Shotspotter is effective with suppressed full loads and/or subsonic loads. For example, if I use my SAS 7.62 Arbitor on my 5.56 AR there's no crack whatsoever with full loads.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xshot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder if Shotspotter is effective with suppressed full loads and/or subsonic loads. For example, if I use my SAS 7.62 Arbitor on my 5.56 AR there's no crack whatsoever with full loads. </div></div>

what do you think the ratio of suppressed to unsuppressed shots there are by gang bangers in cities where this system is implemented is?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A new technology called ShotSpotter </div></div>

Simple triangulation.....

This ain't new, I recall hearing about it three or four years ago.

This surprises anyone, really?

Your license plate can be read from space, and in real time...........
 
#14
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xshot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder if Shotspotter is effective with suppressed full loads and/or subsonic loads. For example, if I use my SAS 7.62 Arbitor on my 5.56 AR there's no crack whatsoever with full loads. </div></div>




the black helicopters already know your lat/long......so your toast anyway
 
#15
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What a joke & a waist of everyone's Money-$$$ .
I just DON'T see it ??? . Who is this going to catch ? & what is this going to solve ?
Looks to me around here in Portland . It's NOT the lone Sniper on the loose that is going to randomly Kill you . Around here it's a Gang Drive-by or getting shot or Stabbed riding public transportation . Or the Family member or friend that is off his/her Medication .
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#16
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Yeah, this makes a whole lot of sense because everyone knows that when some gang banger shoots his gun off in the hood he just stands there and waits for the cops to arrive. Being able to pinpoint the location of the shot will only be usefull in finding empty cases and dead bodies......nothing that wouldn't be found anyways without spending who knows how many millions of dollars. What's the average response time for cops to arrive on the scene compared to how far away a shooter could be in the same amount of time anyway?

Another vote for big waste of tax money. Reason why they waste so much is because we're paying them too much.....
 
#17
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Nothing man made, can't be defeated. All you have to be is just a shade smarter than the engineer that gave birth. Ask Chicago or Birmingham how well their investments have paid off. Most 14yo street punks don't know very much but they get around them.
 
#18
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I read an article that these units were developed for the guys in the military to help them locaate where a shot came from more quickly. Another instance of our government turning its tricks against us.
 
#19
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I read an article that these units were developed for the guys in the military to help them locaate where a shot came from more quickly. Another instance of our government turning its tricks against us. </div></div>
There's a major defect in the system, exploiting it is very simple. One can have the system, target it's self or many targets, rather quickly.
Perception,...for the sheep, an just another way to lighten the pockets of folks who are already broke.
 
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"Sarn't, how is the new SniperSpotter working?"
<span style="font-style: italic">"Well sir, we've confirmed one active sniper already!"</span>
"Great work! How did you know?"

<span style="font-style: italic">"Sir, he's already shot our triangulating gear."</span>


1911fan
 
#21
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wbeard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GREAT!!!!!!! I can't tell you how EXCITED I am to hear our government is spending even more money on worthless cr*p!

whatever.... </div></div>

Exactly- what is the genuine risk of sniper fire in the US???? Is there any sniper fire at all??!!! What a waste of cash.
 
#23
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1911fan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Sarn't, how is the new SniperSpotter working?"
<span style="font-style: italic">"Well sir, we've confirmed one active sniper already!"</span>
"Great work! How did you know?"

<span style="font-style: italic">"Sir, he's already shot our triangulating gear."</span></div></div>

Most military-grade snipers aren't stupid; even the non-military snipers are fairly intelligent. They will know how to defeat these archaic triangulation systems pretty easily; BY SHOOTING THEM. These are my thoughts exactly...
 
#24
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mission_fail</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Knowing the response time of police, I don't think this would be very effective unless the shooter was gonna make a stand in which case people are going to call it in. </div></div>

When seconds count, the police are minutes away...
 
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I've been bitching about this worthless technology since the company (or one of them) came here to put on a demonstration for the Chief. I argued my point very briefly with the Chief before he went out to watch the demo.

I told him it makes about as much sense as installing fixed license plate scanners on the interstate. They could tell you almost instantly if a stolen vehicle was up on the interstate but by the time anyone is in a position to do anything about it the car is long gone.

Bullshit, feel good, worthless waste of tax dollars.
 
#27
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phylodog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been bitching about this worthless technology since the company (or one of them) came here to put on a demonstration for the Chief. I argued my point very briefly with the Chief before he went out to watch the demo.

I told him it makes about as much sense as installing fixed license plate scanners on the interstate. They could tell you almost instantly if a stolen vehicle was up on the interstate but by the time anyone is in a position to do anything about it the car is long gone.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Bullshit, feel good, worthless waste of tax dollars.</span></div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SAMURAIWARRIOR23</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We just got these things installed here on the Island. I'll let ya know how they work out. <span style="font-weight: bold">My opinion is there a waste of tax payer money...</span></div></div>

Agreed!
 
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When I worked 3d shift in East L.A. everyone was ordered to be under cover of some kind a half-hour either side of midnight. The property spanned a couple square miles, one could here the twangs and pops coming from the yard as bullets fell and hit the cars and other stock in the yard. The cops would be parked under the bridges right next to us.
 
#29
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I read an article that these units were developed for the guys in the military to help them locaate where a shot came from more quickly. Another instance of our government turning its tricks against us. </div></div>



They would only use it "against us" if your out shooting some where at things you shouldnt be shooting at.
If you arent the guy commiting the crime, whats the worry?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: softcock</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Who is this going to catch ? & what is this going to solve ?
</div></div>

^^this, nobodies gonna hang around after a shooting. And I'm sure police will be on the scene quickly to arrest the shooter.
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And if a guy wanted to get around this piss poor idea, he could simply use a suppressor, and/or fire from inside a building, or have a couple buddies fire shots from multiple different locations. Sending police on a variety of goose chases.

Clearly looks like a way to get up in everyone's business.
 
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Angry about tax dollars wasted, yes. This is just garbage that is not a necessity, and is not detrimental to police work. As far as its intended purpose and its use against citizens??? The only "citizens" I could see being angry about what this tech does are the ones who would violate the laws it enforces.

All this stuff does is triangulate the location and direction of a gunshot. Listening device? There are much better, more concealable ways out there. If your city gets one, just remember your tin foil hats.
 
#33
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phylodog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been bitching about this worthless technology since the company (or one of them) came here to put on a demonstration for the Chief. I argued my point very briefly with the Chief before he went out to watch the demo.

I told him it makes about as much sense as installing fixed license plate scanners on the interstate. They could tell you almost instantly if a stolen vehicle was up on the interstate but by the time anyone is in a position to do anything about it the car is long gone.

Bullshit, feel good, worthless waste of tax dollars. </div></div>

Whats the old saying....."A fool and his money are soon parted".
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
1911fan said:
Dunno why I can't convince people that the ONLY reason to deploy stuff like this is to use it against us. Maybe not for a while, but we are headed for a social reset, and it will be chaotic and brutal. Think "Somalia visits Fargo".


1911fan</div></div>

Ok, I just put my tin foil hat on again. How about this scenario:
It's 2014 and somehow Obama/Holder have succeeded, by executive order of course, to get strict federal firearm laws in place. So, imagine the national police showing up at YOUR door - "Sir/maam we are going to search here, confiscate any firearms, and imprison you because our Sniper Spottter system detected shots fired here"...remember this is the administration that has well-established any lies or mistruths are acceptable if it accomplishes there objectives.

Oh wait, there isn't a national police? Just wait for a perversion of our current FBI and national guard.
Click to expand...
 
#37
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It just another example of the mindset of the people we have elected. Throw obscene amounts of money at problems with no real solution in mind. Make more arrests then what? Early release. Then start process over.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: UKDslayer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
1911fan said:
Dunno why I can't convince people that the ONLY reason to deploy stuff like this is to use it against us. Maybe not for a while, but we are headed for a social reset, and it will be chaotic and brutal. Think "Somalia visits Fargo".


1911fan</div></div>

Ok, I just put my tin foil hat on again. How about this scenario:
It's 2014 and somehow Obama/Holder have succeeded, by executive order of course, to get strict federal firearm laws in place. So, imagine the national police showing up at YOUR door - "Sir/maam we are going to search here, confiscate any firearms, and imprison you because our Sniper Spottter system detected shots fired here"...remember this is the administration that has well-established any lies or mistruths are acceptable if it accomplishes there objectives.

Oh wait, there isn't a national police? Just wait for a perversion of our current FBI and national guard. </div></div>




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TDeT4DBn7k&feature=related
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#40
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> > ... " <span style="font-style: italic">It just another example of the mindset of the people we have elected. Throw obscene amounts of money at problems with no real solution in mind. Make more arrests then what? Early release. Then start process over</span> . "
-<span style="font-weight: bold">
Mindset of the bureaucracy & the elected , 'sure' , but it's a little more than that . & all this is just a Sales contract that was sold & everyone else pays for . Inventing a problem & then marketing a premeditated solution in the form of sales contract paid for by the Tax Trough .
It's ALL About the Money -$$$$$$$ . I would give my left-Nut for the ability to strip apart the insulating layers of bureaucracy . To break it all down & know names & to where the money really flows & who gets paid & benefits for the Sales of this bullshit . it's Just a premeditated sales-pitch that everyone else pays for & it should be a crime .
OHhhh wait ? is this ... . Racketeering under Rico . ?
( IMHO ) . It was. Up until the point that contracts were signed & this bullshit-Product was delivered .
.</span>
 
#42
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Didn't read the article because I recognized the name. The PD in Glendale,AZ have had one of these since at least last year at this time. Although they never said it was for snipers...
 
#43
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a-hull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They would only use it "against us" if you're out shooting somewhere at things you shouldn't be shooting at.
If you aren't the guy committing the crime, whats the worry? </div></div>

Think you're missing the point. Why would they install such a system, to use against citizens, unless oppression is a real possibility? Who defines what should, or shouldn't be, shot at? There may come a time when resistance to the federal government is patriotism.


1911fan

PS: I edited your quote for spelling and punctuation because I'm a grammar nazi.
 
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Here you go ahull fixed it for you....

<span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="color: #CC0000">"Sound of hooves knock at your door lock up your wife and children now........On through the dead of night With the Four Horsemen ride Or choose your fate and die OH YEAH YEAH!!"</span></span>
 
#45
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1911fan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a-hull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They would only use it "against us" if you're out shooting somewhere at things you shouldn't be shooting at.
If you aren't the guy committing the crime, whats the worry? </div></div>

Think you're missing the point. Why would they install such a system, to use against citizens, unless oppression is a real possibility? Who defines what should, or shouldn't be, shot at? There may come a time when resistance to the federal government is patriotism.


1911fan

PS: I edited your quote for spelling and punctuation because I'm a grammar nazi.

</div></div>


Thanks for fixing my spelling Mr. Nazi.

As far as the other part, I am not touching that with a ten foot pole.

It is probablly threads like this, that are read by someone some where, watching sites with the title sniper in it, that add fuel to the anti gun fire.
 
#47
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Yes I now feel oppressed in a city I can't randomly shoot in without discrimination. Wait, what? There are cities I can shoot in? If it came down to a legal and justified shooting in defense of my life, then they will not need the machine, I will be there to tell them all they want to know. Not happy about tax money wasted, though, but if it works, the only ones that have an issue are the ones out to do malice.

Yeah, im gonna read these um, statutes, case laws and such, since they pretty much say what can and cant be shot at. Somehow, I dont feel we are Egypt just yet, and if it gets to that, tech like this will have no use.
 
#48
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Griffin Armament</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's no possible benefit for the American public here.</div></div>
Yes there is,... nightly entertainment.
If you think Ghetto an out of the box, it's very easy to have it target it's self, the local substation or main facility.
Remember it is lawful to drive nails with a 22 or 27 caliber power hammer, an the 22 caliber yellow or red loads will throw a nail a long way. Who's to say you did not have an accident an it went off at the wrong time or angle.

The proper way to hose it, is electronic feed back. Radio shack can supply everything you need, or you can rob parts from a tube type Am/Fm Radio, and add a 12" speaker, ripped from a low rider. You know the kind, the ones with the little doggie in the back window.
It's a brave new world, dick-em back.
 
#49
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That is the funnest thing I read in a while, all the sniper needs to do is shoot and get out of the location...what a great idea for the sniper I bet they never thought of the idea of shoot and move! What can the think of next???
 
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